Here's a noteworthy reply to one examining the Christian belief by Gideon Odoma.

My (Very Long Reply) to Julie.

Dear Julie,

I understand your concerns. I feel your frustration.

It is laughable, even though it's pathetic, that supposed intelligent people whine on and on (thanks to the internet) about why they don't believe in God or why Christianity isn't right; yet, they offer no convincing 'grounding' for their denunciations.

A little example:
If I say you got your sums wrong because you wrote 500 as the answer to '200 plus 200'; and I insist your answer should have been 400, I do not mean I prefer 400 to 500 as the answer to the sum. I mean something deeper than that. I mean that in an objective, verifiable way, 200 + 200 comes up to 400 - and to nothing else. Certain things cannot be resolved by mere tastes and preferences.

If you prefer Eba to Amala for lunch next wednesday, that's fine, but in resolving truth claims, preferences and/or emotions cannot be trusted to get us to truth.

Floating is bliss!?
It is inept how some internet critics think their uncertainty about truth claims in matters of religion is a superior disposition to the confidence of religious believers who have reasons to be certain about their religious convictions. If Christian morality, for instance, is wrong, you don't only have to show the right alternative to it, but also the standard, the yardstick by which you decided that your proposed alternative is true. You also have to show why the yardstick is legitimate.

Merely mouthing things like 'progressives' or 'enlightenment', or 'broad-minded', or 'liberated' won't take us anywhere close to truth. As you may know, 'time' also does not change a historical fact. It is silly to call me antiquated for believing that one of my forefathers was called Odoma. The mere passage of time and a thousand scientific inventions since he died, do not change that fact.

The Crux
Jesus died. He was He buried. He rose from the dead. These are truth claims. They don't "depend on how you see them". They don't depend on how you feel, or whether any one else has ever had a similar experience. A truth claim (located in history) may sound arrogant, intolerant and exclusivistic; it matters little. What matters is the truth. Did it happen as claimed? If Jesus died and rose again, that's a real game changer there. And if you desire to write Christianity off, you must investigate this claim. Because, it is a matter of life and death. Your own, I mean.

The writers of the New Testament are very clear about this: our faith depends on the truth, the historicity of the death and resurrection of Jesus. "If Christ be not raised (from the dead, then), your faith is vain..." (1 Corinthians 15:17). If He was not raised, we can close shop and go our ways, because, on the Christian narrative, that's the pivotal issue.

However, if Jesus is alive, having been raised from the dead following His crucifixion, He becomes the most reliable voice to listen to - in matters of life, death and life after death. Also, His precepts for mankind, codified as the New Testament, becomes a code in a class all of its own.

The bible is clear: Jesus' resurrection from the dead is proof of God's unmatched approval of His life as the 'pattern life' for mankind and as our only pathway to God.

In other words, the proof that Christianity is true is the historicity of the death and resurrection of Jesus. This is also a major proof of the legitimacy of Christian exclusivity. As paul said: "(God) has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. HE HAS GIVEN PROOF of this to everyone BY raising him (Jesus) from the dead.” (Acts 17:31)

So, Julie, before you let anyone make you dismiss Christianity as just another religion, investigate the central claim it makes, "that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" (1 Corinthians 15:3-4). Will you investigate these things for yourself? I can recommend a reading list if you'd like me to. But you'll have to investigate it for yourself.

Many people (excluding you, I hope) will have none of these. They don't want to do the hard work. They don't want to investigate the facts. They'll rather read sensational, non credible, non academic, non historical gabbage peddled by revisionists. Having been fed such trash, I see them as self-made victims, epistemologically emasculated, yet masquerading on social networks as enlightened, informed religious critics.

These epistemologically homeless critics just criticize Christianity but offer no reasonable, coherent alternative. They only know what they disbelieve, they can't articulate what they believe - majority of them. Here, I will leave you in the hands of a far more competent figure. Let G. K. Chesterton speak:

“The new rebel is a skeptic, and will not entirely trust anything. He has no loyalty; therefore he can never be really a revolutionist. And the fact that he doubts everything really gets in his way when he wants to denounce anything. For all denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind; and the modern revolutionist doubts not only the institution he denounces, but the doctrine by which he denounces it... As a politician, he will cry out that war is a waste of life, and then, as a philosopher, that all life is waste of time. A Russian pessimist will denounce a policeman for killing a peasant, and then prove by the highest philosophical principles that the peasant ought to have killed himself. . . . The man of this school goes first to a political meeting, where he complains that savages are treated as if they were beasts; then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves that they practically are beasts. In short, the modern revolutionist, being an infinite skeptic, is always engaged in undermining his own mines. In his book on politics he attacks men for trampling on morality; in his book on ethics he attacks morality for trampling on men. Therefore the modern man in revolt has become practically useless for all purposes of revolt. By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything.”
― G.K. Chesterton

Enough. It's a long reply. Looking forward to your response.

Gideon

#ChristiansLikeChristians

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Lies

And the quote from G.K Chesterton once more.

"The new rebel is a skeptic, and will not entirely trust anything. He has no loyalty; therefore he can never be really a revolutionist. And the fact that he doubts everything really gets in his way when he wants to denounce anything. For all denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind; and the modern revolutionist doubts not only the institution he denounces, but the doctrine by which he denounces it... As a politician, he will cry out that war is a waste of life, and then, as a philosopher, that all life is waste of time. A Russian pessimist will denounce a policeman for killing a peasant, and then prove by the highest philosophical principles that the peasant ought to have killed himself. . . . The man of this school goes first to a political meeting, where he complains that savages are treated as if they were beasts; then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves that they practically are beasts. In short, the modern revolutionist, being an infinite skeptic, is always engaged in undermining his own mines. In his book on politics he attacks men for trampling on morality; in his book on ethics he attacks morality for trampling on men. Therefore the modern man in revolt has become practically useless for all purposes of revolt. By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything.”
― G.K. Chesterton

Joshthefirst:
Here's a noteworthy reply to one examining the Christian belief by Gideon Odoma.



cc: plaetton, kay17, catfishbilly, deepsight, alwaystrue, MrAnony1, jayriginal, jackbizzle.

Bros where did you copy that long-winded trash from?

He spends so much time insulting the disbeliever rather than defending the claims of christianity.


Christianity is like any other religion. It contains nothing special. Virgin birtgs, ressurection, altruism, prophets etc.

Joshthefirst:
And the quote from G.K Chesterton once more.

"The new rebel is a skeptic, and will not entirely trust anything. He has no loyalty; therefore he can never be really a revolutionist. And the fact that he doubts everything really gets in his way when he wants to denounce anything. For all denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind; and the modern revolutionist doubts not only the institution he denounces, but the doctrine by which he denounces it... As a politician, he will cry out that war is a waste of life, and then, as a philosopher, that all life is waste of time. A Russian pessimist will denounce a policeman for killing a peasant, and then prove by the highest philosophical principles that the peasant ought to have killed himself. . . . The man of this school goes first to a political meeting, where he complains that savages are treated as if they were beasts; then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves that they practically are beasts. In short, the modern revolutionist, being an infinite skeptic, is always engaged in undermining his own mines. In his book on politics he attacks men for trampling on morality; in his book on ethics he attacks morality for trampling on men. Therefore the modern man in revolt has become practically useless for all purposes of revolt. By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything.”
― G.K. Chesterton

This quote is quite outdated

Joshthefirst:
Here's a noteworthy reply to one examining the Christian belief by Gideon Odoma.



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I am sorry to say, but this is pure unadulterated nonsense. The writer is either stark illiterate or psychotic.

DeepSight:


I am sorry to say, but this is pure unadulterated nonsense. The writer is either stark illiterate or psychotic.

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DeepSight:


I am sorry to say, but this is pure unadulterated nonsense. The writer is either stark illiterate or psychotic.

Lol
You dignified with a response.

How are you my brother?

Hey Josh, how are you.

Not everything you thinks makes sense actually does. I'm kind of flattered you remember me. Not many on this board know me.

That being said, if you want to argue, play by the rules.


Cheers man.

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Joshthefirst:
Here's a noteworthy reply to one examining the Christian belief by Gideon Odoma.



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Yes!

When we investigate the more. We see the Christian faith is the most reasonable. These whole lies by people who left the faith or those on the outside are all satanic attempts to confuse and destroy souls.

One yardstick I use in recognizing false religion: if they do somehow sort of teach that Jesus Christ is somewhat somehow inferior or lower. That's one key feature in recognizing them. They mostly all attack the diety of Christ despite their seemingly lofty intelligent words or vain show of hypocritical love.

We need to as Christians unite more, study more, pray more and rise in the art of Polemics and Apologetics against these lies against the exalted Christ.

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And the school should either, seriously, review their policies on such things... or they should lose their funding. Public Schools are NOT places to teach kids religion like that... it's not a street corner for at ownership strategies preachers to come and do as they please then tell the next religion they can't do it.

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JackBizzle:



Bros where did you copy that long-winded trash from?

He spends so much time insulting the disbeliever rather than defending the claims of christianity.


Christianity is like any other religion. It contains nothing special. Virgin birtgs, ressurection, altruism, prophets etc.

Christainity isn't like any other religion. until you taste a food, you are likely to judge it by what you feel about it. You have license to choose what you really want but that doesn't change the original standard from the spectacles of the immortals.

DeepSight:


I am sorry to say, but this is pure unadulterated nonsense. The writer is either stark illiterate or psychotic.

If you can't what he said incorrect, your insults have literally added to his points

Joshthefirst:
Here's a noteworthy reply to one examining the Christian belief by Gideon Odoma.



cc: plaetton, kay17, catfishbilly, deepsight, alwaystrue, MrAnony1, jayriginal, jackbizzle.

This is a nice one from Papa Odoma Gideon.

Joshthefirst:
Here's a noteworthy reply to one examining the Christian belief by Gideon Odoma.



cc: plaetton, kay17, catfishbilly, deepsight, alwaystrue, MrAnony1, jayriginal, jackbizzle.

The foundational framework of the Christian belief is itself loaded with cascades of Bronze-Age Myths. They are flawed, contradictory and laden with fraud.

So, when thw author writes that Jesus died , was buried and then resurrected, he is definitely not stating a known and verifiable fact, but an age long myth, built on other cascades of myth, passed on in most cases through the sword and swaths of blood.

Now, building and clinging to a worldview constructed on Bronze-age myths, and pontificating thereof, is the grand folly of Most Africans in this 21st century.

plaetton:


The foundational framework of the Christian belief is itself loaded with cascades of Bronze-Age Myths. They are flawed, contradictory and laden with fraud.

So, when thw author writes that Jesus died , was buried and then resurrected, he is definitely not stating a known and verifiable fact, but an age long myth, built on other cascades of myth, passed on in most cases through the sword and swaths of blood.

Now, building and clinging to a worldview constructed on Bronze-age myths, and pontificating thereof, is the grand folly of Most Africans in this 21st century.

The account of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus is very readily historically verifiable, by both secular and biblical sources.

Claiming otherwise is actually ignorant.

One reason the Christian worldview has remained so convincing is primarily the strength of its historical account.

Please what are some of the flaws and contradictions of this Christian belief?

This is by far one of the worst threads written by Joshthefirst

DeepSight:


I am sorry to say, but this is pure unadulterated nonsense. The writer is either stark illiterate or psychotic.

For a graduate of Oxford?
You are joking.

oladipojesse:


For a graduate of Oxford?
You are joking.

NairalandFord bro.

Seriously. Where is the historicity in the resurrection. How is it shown a historical fact.

Historical in the sense that there was a British Empire. Not in the sense that an angel spoke to Muhammad on a mountain or God spoke to Moses through a burning bush.