"To complicate matters, the Muslims apologists tell us Jesus Christ was a Muslim who was unsuccessful in winning converts because His message became quickly corrupted. For example, Surah Al-E-Imran 50-52 reads, “I –Jesus- have come to you confirming that – i.e the books- which are -sent down- prior to me, that is, the Torah, and... I have come to you with a sign from your Lord so, fear Allah and obey me… he said: “Who are my helpers in the way of Allah?” The disciples said: “We are helpers of Allah. We... are Muslims.” Some have wondered why a revelation like this verse could find its way into the Koran when the same Koran tells us that Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), who lived 600 years after Jesus Christ, was the first Muslim. How could our Lord Jesus Christ have been a Muslim when Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), according to the Koran and historical records was the very first to submit to Allah, the first Muslim? How could Christ have been when the very first mosque and even the Koran came into existence over 600 years after Him?
If Jesus was indeed a Muslim, how come his own disciples — Peter, Matthew John co — who were contributors to the Injil –i.e the gospel- that the Koran confirmed, have preached a theology that is so evidently, fundamentally and strongly at odds with the message of the Koran? Is this the reason why the apologists feel the need to discredit the Holy Bible at all cost?"

https://akanbiafeso./2017/11/05/the-holy-bible-and-the-koran-a-personal-opinion-2/

Op, never start what you cannot finish. Be careful!!

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If Jesus was indeed a Muslim, how come his own disciples — Peter, Matthew John co — who were contributors to the Injil –i.e the gospel- that the Koran confirmed, have preached a theology that is so evidently, fundamentally and strongly at odds with the message of the Koran? Is this the reason why the apologists feel the need to discredit the Holy Bible at all cost?"

They will do everything to discredit the Bible cos they can't understand how a book that existed 700years before theirs was able to judge, expose and condemn them.

In order to keep deceived Muslims from knowing the truth, they lied to them that the Bible has been corrupted. So, when such a Muslim is reading the Bible and comes across a verse that exposes the falsehood of Islam, he becomes afraid and either accepts the reality or remain stubborn by quickly buying the idea that the Bible has been corrupted. Therefore, that verse could be one of the corrupted ones.

If someone claims the Bible has been corrupted, isn't it wise for you to tell the person to provide the original? They don't have such but lies.


How is it possible to gather all the Bibles that existed in the world then, burn them then replaced them with new ones? If such is possible, then it is possible for remnant to be. No matter how advanced phones get, you will still find those old telephones in homes.

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The disciples said: “We are helpers of Allah. We... are Muslims.” Some have wondered why a revelation like this verse could find its way into the Koran when the same Koran tells us that Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), who lived 600 years after Jesus Christ, was the first Muslim.
How could our Lord Jesus Christ have been a Muslim when Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), according to the Koran and historical records was the very first to submit to Allah, the first Muslim?

How could Christ have been when the very first mosque and even the Koran came into existence over 600 years after Him?
If Jesus was indeed a Muslim, how come his own disciples — Peter, Matthew John co — who were contributors to the Injil –i.e the gospel- that the Koran confirmed, have preached a theology that is so evidently, fundamentally and strongly at odds with the message of the Koran?

Is this the reason why the apologists feel the need to discredit the Holy Bible at all cost?"

https://akanbiafeso./2017/11/05/the-holy-bible-and-the-koran-a-personal-opinion-2/

Thanks for revealing powerful truths here, Sir. While the OP is powerful enough to encourage life long debate, the suffering masses urgently cry out for practical evidence that their chosen beliefs can provide them with the greatest benefit and reward.

The manufacturers of cars don't have to endlessly debate the historic and Philosophical significance of automobiles. All they have to do is provide practical evidence their cars provide a greater value to the masses than others.

The product and services religions offer is primarily SPIRITUAL. That is what religions should be based on - Practical spiritual education

If world religions were honestly working in the spiritual interest of the desperate masses they would continually demonstrate the practical manifestations of the spiritual education they market.

The Rhatiep of Islam is an example of their deity, Allah manifesting demonstrable spiritual power. The question could be fairly asked, "What is the practical value or benefit to the suffering masses ?

The healings, demonic deliverance and mind-blowing blessings of true Christianity is also an example of their deity, Jesus Christ manifesting demonstrable spiritual power. The question could be fairly asked, "What is the practical value or benefit to the suffering masses ?

Genuine spiritual leaders should learn that honest and effective marketing of their doctrines focus on the true practical benefits for the follower. No historic and fancy philosophic arguments will do.

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The disciples said: “We are helpers of Allah. We... are Muslims.” Some have wondered why a revelation like this verse could find its way into the Koran when the same Koran tells us that Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), who lived 600 years after Jesus Christ, was the first Muslim.
How could our Lord Jesus Christ have been a Muslim when Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), according to the Koran and historical records was the very first to submit to Allah, the first Muslim?

How could Christ have been when the very first mosque and even the Koran came into existence over 600 years after Him?
If Jesus was indeed a Muslim, how come his own disciples — Peter, Matthew John co — who were contributors to the Injil –i.e the gospel- that the Koran confirmed, have preached a theology that is so evidently, fundamentally and strongly at odds with the message of the Koran?

Is this the reason why the apologists feel the need to discredit the Holy Bible at all cost?"

https://akanbiafeso./2017/11/05/the-holy-bible-and-the-koran-a-personal-opinion-2/

Thanks for revealing powerful truths here, Sir. While the OP is powerful enough to encourage life long debate, the suffering masses urgently cry out for practical evidence that their chosen beliefs can provide them with the greatest benefit and reward.

The manufacturers of cars don't have to endlessly debate the historic and Philosophical significance of automobiles. All they have to do is provide practical evidence their cars provide a greater value to the masses than others.

The product and services religions offer is primarily SPIRITUAL. That is what religions should be based on - Practical spiritual education

If world religions were honestly working in the spiritual interest of the desperate masses they would continually demonstrate the practical manifestations of the spiritual education they market.

The Rhatiep of Islam is an example of their deity, Allah manifesting demonstrable spiritual power. The question could be fairly asked, "What is the practical value or benefit to the suffering masses ?

The healings, demonic deliverance and mind-blowing blessings of true Christianity is also an example of their deity, Jesus Christ manifesting demonstrable spiritual power. The question could be fairly asked, "What is the practical value or benefit to the suffering masses ?

Genuine spiritual leaders should learn that honest and effective marketing of their doctrines focus on the true practical benefits for the follower.
No historic and fancy philosophic arguments will do unless the spiritual leaders are fakes with no spiritual power themselves.

^^^People don't know who you are talking about, free advert for Mr. TB.