It's really a pity we have reduced Christianity to tithing.

I will say those in the Acts of the Apostles gave most of their belonging, well, we all know about how the husband and wife kept a little portion and they both &$$5$ as a result. So, why are this people expressing their stinginess all in a name to by pass tithe, well, am not saying or forcing anyone to tithe, keep your money, but remember, in the Acts of the Apostles, People gave more than the 10% as supposed to your protest for a reduction.

Acts 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Acts 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,

4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

4:36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,

4:37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

The essense of working is to give to the needs of men(ministry and needy)

Hier:
It's really a pity we have reduced Christianity to tithing.

I will say those in the Acts of the Apostles gave most of their belonging, well, we all know about how the husband and wife kept a little portion and they both &$$5$ as a result. So, why are this people expressing their stinginess all in a name to by pass tithe, well, am not saying or forcing anyone to tithe, keep your money, but remember, in the Acts of the Apostles, People gave more than the 10% as supposed to your protest for a reduction.

but the giving was not compulsory

Acts 20:35 I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

Gggg102:



but the giving was not compulsory

Compulsory as how

Was your giving in church at anytime compulsory, were you held at gun point

by the way, you are required to give

Galatians 6:6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.

Hier:


Compulsory as how

Was your giving in church at anytime compulsory, were you held at gun point

by the way, you are required to give

Galatians 6:6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.

yes people are held at psychological gun point to pay tithe "pay tithe or your life will be tight"
and other churches don't allow members to get married and do other things without tithe.
you are to give out of freewill or the purpose of giving will be defeated.

moreover tithing is different from the giving of 10% practised today.

Hier:
Acts 20:35 I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

the 10% given today is not used to support the weak

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yes people are held at psychological gun point to pay tithe "pay tithe or your life will be tight"
and other churches don't allow members to get married and do other things without tithe.
you are to give out of freewill or the purpose of giving will be defeated.

moreover tithing is different from the giving of 10% practised today.[/quote

No one is under any psychological gun point, whoever feels like he is, is actually trying to fight tithing, just that simple

Hier:
Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

The essense of working is to give to the needs of men(ministry and needy)

to him that needeth=poor

[quote author=Hier post=62181385][/quote]
so people should feel cursed because they don't tithe or they should not be treated like church members because they don't tithe or they should not be wedded because they don't tithe

Gggg102:


the 10% given today is not used to support the weak

Well, you need to see a man of God just starting ministry, then you will understand weak from the ministerial angle

Paul said, you have sent unto me

Philippians 4:14 Notwithstanding ye have well done, that ye did communicate with my affliction.

4:15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.

4:16 For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity.

2 Timothy 1:16 The Lord give mercy unto the house of Onesiphorus; for he oft refreshed me, and was not ashamed of my chain:

This will be all for today sir, bye

Gggg102:


to him that needeth=poor

Have you ever heard of missions before

Paul was a traveller, and he was often in need, I get where you are going with this

I will close with this

No matter how rich a ministry may seem, they have missionaries, charity works and project they need money for.

Jesus said, well, my point is, every work(charity or expenditure) of a ministry is not necessarily advertised on billboards and papers, Let your lefthand know what your right hand is doing principle

Yea, Zechariah 1:17 Cry yet, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; My cities through prosperity shall yet be spread abroad; and the LORD shall yet comfort Zion, and shall yet choose Jerusalem.

(Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.)

If you believe the gospel must be preach, give more,

I rest my casia

Hier:


Have you ever heard of missions before

Paul was a traveller, and he was often in need, I get where you are going with this

I will close with this

No matter how rich a ministry may seem, they have missionaries, charity works and project they need money for.

Jesus said, well, my point is, every work(charity or expenditure) of a ministry is not necessarily advertised on billboards and papers, Let your lefthand know what your right hand is doing principle

Yea, Zechariah 1:17 Cry yet, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; My cities through prosperity shall yet be spread abroad; and the LORD shall yet comfort Zion, and shall yet choose Jerusalem.

I rest my casia

that Paul also said that we should work for our up keep as he did not make himself a burden to the people he was preaching to

even if they don't advertise the people who benefit from the outreach will spread the word so there would be information

Hier:


Compulsory as how

Was your giving in church at anytime compulsory, were you held at gun point

by the way, you are required to give

Galatians 6:6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.

Wow! So you don't know that tithing is a commandment? Just negodu