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Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Mrtesso: 10:56am On Nov 17, 2017
9icetoo:
the engine in that avensis is very common. it shares that engine with corolla diesel and hilux. there are plenty diesel mechanics in pH. it is almost the same setup with petrol.
I once tot I had an injector issue in my Skoda. it it turned out it was a collapsed diesel hose that wasn't delivering full flow to my injectors. I even made the diagnosis myself in my house. it was that simple.
heater plugs may go bad once in a long while but they are dirt cheap and easy to replace. any mechanic can do that. even a petrol mechanic can do it.
I don't understand the apprehension with diesels. in Ghana, half the cars there are diesels. in Europe, its almost three quarter.
why naija case come different.


You make it sound like a jolly ride. Do u by chance stay around PH, u said there are plenty diesel mechs. I don't even know one. I won't mind meeting one so I've forwarded a mail.

That being said there are a lot of myths surrounding certain brands and types of vehicles in this part of the world, so don't blame us much for our ignorance.

Coincidentally, on my way back on Tuesday i saw a diesel Toyota hilux used by someone I think to haul his/her belongings. that was about past 4pm. They said diesel finish inside, say mechanic dey come. I noticed the back of the vehicle seemed to have black sooth all over it. I longed to take pictures but it wasn't convenient. I stepped out again at 7pm the vehicle was there with the mechanics trying to start it up. I tried to initiate a conversation as a concerned passerby hoping to get acquainted with a mechanic. They seemed to be too frustrated to respond so gave them the customary "well done oh" and I passed. By 10:30pm it was there with no one around it. By 7am the follow morning it was there with more people around it. I'll have liked to ask what went Wrong but I was in much haste.

I narrated that because you sound like it's quite an easy journey. What could have caused that over 12-hour delay to start up a vehicle?
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Mrtesso: 10:59am On Nov 17, 2017
Readonee35L:
Mrtesso .
First off I need to ask.
Before i give advice how much is the cost of the car? .

Thanks for coming in sir. The cost of the vehicle is significantly less than the cost of a tokunbo petrol variant or even a neat fairly used one.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by b2212(m): 11:35am On Nov 17, 2017
Mrtesso:


Thanks for coming in sir. The cost of the vehicle is significantly less than the cost of a tokunbo petrol variant or even a neat fairly used one.

Car looks good but please test drive over a long distance before paying.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Mrtesso: 11:46am On Nov 17, 2017
b2212:


Car looks good but please test drive over a long distance before paying.


Most definitely sir. I'll have that done certainly. Thanks a lot.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by nurey(m): 11:46am On Nov 17, 2017
Mrtesso:


Thanks for coming in sir. The cost of the vehicle is significantly less than the cost of a tokunbo petrol variant or even a neat fairly used one.

fuel pump kaput
injectors clogged (diesel injectors are sensitive)
Air in the system, priming things
The mechanic working on it may not be too conversant with diesel engines

car is cheap because its diesel not because its faulty, i have seen a new VW beetle worth 1.2m sold for 600k because its beetle and nobody is interested in buying, i have seen tokunbo honda addidas europe of the accord 2001 sold for 500k tokunbo because its diesel.

Diesel cars a only bought by people who know the value so its hard to sell it as a dealer in Nigeria. this is where the opportunity comes in for you.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Specialist900(m): 12:09pm On Nov 17, 2017
Mrtesso:



That's good to know. Bhet we're in Port Harcourt. The majority of Diesel vehicles I've seen used by individuals, seem to end up in one place - grave yard. The other few companies like Julius Berger and Nestoil that run Diesel powered sedans and wagons like the Skoda Octavia diesel and volks wagen diesel counterparts seem to have specialised mechanics working for them. That led to the conversion conception. But the majority opinion tilts towards retaining the engine. Thanks for the heads-up .
I've said to myself that if I'll be getting a second car, it will be diesel powered. Diesel mechanic plenty na. Atleast most of our trailers are diesel powered
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Attah995: 12:27pm On Nov 17, 2017
I use a 2010 Nissan navara diesel and I cn tell u it's rialable and economical I would advice u go use it
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Mrtesso: 1:14pm On Nov 17, 2017
nurey:


fuel pump kaput
injectors clogged (diesel injectors are sensitive)
Air in the system, priming things
The mechanic working on it may not be too conversant with diesel engines

car is cheap because its diesel not because its faulty, i have seen a new VW beetle worth 1.2m sold for 600k because its beetle and nobody is interested in buying, i have seen tokunbo honda addidas europe of the accord 2001 sold for 500k tokunbo because its diesel.

Diesel cars a only bought by people who know the value so its hard to sell it as a dealer in Nigeria. this is where the opportunity comes in for you.


A quick survey of two online classifieds sites reveals that diesel vehicles are not even a lot cheaper. Some I saw are even more expensive that their petrol counterparts. I noticed tho, that most of the Toyota brands have the same D-4D engine under. Secondly, I noticed they're mostly manual transmissions. Does the type of transmission have any significant bearing on the engine?
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Mrtesso: 1:26pm On Nov 17, 2017
2010 Toyota RAV4 Diesel

Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Mrtesso: 1:29pm On Nov 17, 2017
And the Verso...

Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Mrtesso: 1:33pm On Nov 17, 2017
Attah995:
I use a 2010 Nissan navara diesel and I cn tell u it's rialable and economical I would advice u go use it

That's interesting, Navara would be...a pickup, or Bus?
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by nurey(m): 2:43pm On Nov 17, 2017
Mrtesso:



A quick survey of two online classifieds sites reveals that diesel vehicles are not even a lot cheaper. Some I saw are even more expensive that their petrol counterparts. I noticed tho, that most of the Toyota brands have the same D-4D engine under. Secondly, I noticed they're mostly manual transmissions. Does the type of transmission have any significant bearing on the engine?

Brand new, diesel is way more expensive to acquire than petrol.
Also depends on brand and where you are buying from, i doubt if i would buy the HDI engine of Peugeot because i dont understand that diesel technology.

Yes most brands have same engine inside not a toyota thing though, the VW TDI too are identical in many car class, golf, caravelle, passat etc. Though there are some exceptions like the V6 TDI in audi sedans and VW toureg and the V12 TDI Quattro in the audi Q7.

Europe has more diesel engines on the road infact Europe has a breed of all engines from LPG to petrol to diesel to electric etc and they majorly drive manual cars over there. That car could possibly be a Europe variant.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by b2212(m): 3:20pm On Nov 17, 2017
Specialist900:
I've said to myself that if I'll be getting a second car, it will be diesel powered. Diesel mechanic plenty na. Atleast most of our trailers are diesel powered
do you know how badly maintained the trailers in nigeria are?
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Mrtesso: 5:31pm On Nov 17, 2017
nurey:


Brand new, diesel is way more expensive to acquire than petrol.
Also depends on brand and where you are buying from, i doubt if i would buy the HDI engine of Peugeot because i dont understand that diesel technology.

Yes most brands have same engine inside not a toyota thing though, the VW TDI too are identical in many car class, golf, caravelle, passat etc. Though there are some exceptions like the V6 TDI in audi sedans and VW toureg and the V12 TDI Quattro in the audi Q7.

Europe has more diesel engines on the road infact Europe has a breed of all engines from LPG to petrol to diesel to electric etc and they majorly drive manual cars over there. That car could possibly be a Europe variant.


Noted sir. What's with the Diesels and the manual transmission though, u omitted that part.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Mrtesso: 5:32pm On Nov 17, 2017
b2212:
do you know how badly maintained the trailers in nigeria are?
Lol... primary pollutants.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by diportivo: 6:41pm On Nov 17, 2017
Mrtesso:



Noted sir. What's with the Diesels and the manual transmission though, u omitted that part.

we don't joke with our manual rides in Europe

it has nothing to do with the engine fitted inside
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by nurey(m): 7:59pm On Nov 17, 2017
Mrtesso:



Noted sir. What's with the Diesels and the manual transmission though, u omitted that part.

I didn't omit it, I repasted reasons

Europe has more diesel engines on the road infact Europe has a breed of all engines from LPG to petrol to diesel to electric etc and they majorly drive manual cars over there. That car could possibly be a Europe variant.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Specialist900(m): 9:45pm On Nov 17, 2017
b2212:

do you know how badly maintained the trailers in nigeria are?
some of them
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Mrtesso: 8:40am On Nov 18, 2017
diportivo:


we don't joke with our manual rides in Europe

it has nothing to do with the engine fitted inside


Thanks for coming sir. Bhet we like automatic. We don't enjoy the rigor of shifting gears anymore. Even Jason Statham has moved on from manual transmission. grin
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by cardoctor(m): 8:59am On Nov 18, 2017
Serious project. Nice one
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Mrtesso: 9:33am On Nov 18, 2017
nurey:


I didn't omit it, I repasted reasons

Europe has more diesel engines on the road infact Europe has a breed of all engines from LPG to petrol to diesel to electric etc and they majorly drive manual cars over there. That car could possibly be a Europe variant.


It definitely should be. Not everyone is a fan of manual transmission tho. Nigerian driving requires a lot of energy, mental and physical - bad roads, retarded road users, traffic offenders in uniform ; Automatic transmission helps u conserve that energy.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by letuak(m): 12:53pm On Nov 18, 2017
cardoctor:
Serious project. Nice one

Welcome sir,
pls kindly enlighten us about the differences in HDi,D4D & TDi bc I love to acquire 407 2.0HDi.
Thanks.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by GAZZUZZ(m): 1:28pm On Nov 18, 2017
letuak:


Welcome sir,
pls kindly enlighten us about the differences in HDi,D4D & TDi bc I love to acquire 407 2.0HDi.
Thanks.

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Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by 9icetoo(m): 2:14pm On Nov 18, 2017
Mrtesso:



grin grin grin I will buy it fest. Then u can buy afterward. It's good to know you like Skoda, and that you run a Diesel powered vehicle. It's also evident you Know the maintenance drills. U also make it sound very convenient and easy going. U have received a mail from me. I'd be pleased to speak with you sir. Thanks for the insight. Very very helpful.
Will check my mail later tonight and respond.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by 9icetoo(m): 2:30pm On Nov 18, 2017
Mrtesso:



You make it sound like a jolly ride. Do u by chance stay around PH, u said there are plenty diesel mechs. I don't even know one. I won't mind meeting one so I've forwarded a mail.

That being said there are a lot of myths surrounding certain brands and types of vehicles in this part of the world, so don't blame us much for our ignorance.

Coincidentally, on my way back on Tuesday i saw a diesel Toyota hilux used by someone I think to haul his/her belongings. that was about past 4pm. They said diesel finish inside, say mechanic dey come. I noticed the back of the vehicle seemed to have black sooth all over it. I longed to take pictures but it wasn't convenient. I stepped out again at 7pm the vehicle was there with the mechanics trying to start it up. I tried to initiate a conversation as a concerned passerby hoping to get acquainted with a mechanic. They seemed to be too frustrated to respond so gave them the customary "well done oh" and I passed. By 10:30pm it was there with no one around it. By 7am the follow morning it was there with more people around it. I'll have liked to ask what went Wrong but I was in much haste.

I narrated that because you sound like it's quite an easy journey. What could have caused that over 12-hour delay to start up a vehicle?
Okay, here are a few things that could be wrong with the car:

1. owner is cheap. How could you drive a diesel till it runs out of gas? Jeez. As fuel economical as it is?
2. Injector has gone kaput. Owner must have been riding low all the time and it has come to bite him in the bumIt shares same pump with petrol cars at least for my skoda, it is same. I assume it would be same with Hilux. Fuel pumps last longer in diesel cars cos the diesel lubricates the pump better than fuel.
3. Bad injectors. Owner must have been buying kpo fire to have such an amount of soot spewing from him exhaust and must have knackered his injectors with his bad attitude towards quality fuel. Unfortunately, he has a hefty bill to pay for this negligence. Diesel injectors dont come cheap!!!
4. Air in fuel line. Assuming owner is a cheap fella and decides to use a petrol engine mech to fix a dud diesel engine, he is in for a long painful and arduous day. The petrol mech wouldnt even know where to start bleeding the diesel lines and injectors from. Skoda has a self priming system at least in the 06 and up models so mechanics dont have to sweat it out after changing parts. i dont know if hilux diesel engines have this feature.
5. Electrical problems. New diesel engines use eletric solenoids fitted to the injectors to control quantity and time of delivery of diesel unlike the old models that used a mechanical system. These solenoids are controlled directly by the brain box. A good electrician should be able to sort this out.

It is actually a jolly ride. There are a lot of diesel hilux mechanics in PH. All the trucks on our highways run on diesel engines. Actross trucks run on complex diesel engines and mechanics fix them here in Nigeria.

I once met a fellow on a trip who owns an Audi A3 with the gen 1 1.9Tdi engine. We got talking and exchanged numbers. One month later he calls to tell me his timing belt snapped and his car is grounded. I gave him the number of a mechanic who works on my skoda and they got talking.
The mech changed his camshaft, some bent valves, valve cups and seals, fitted a new timing belt, primed his pump (the Mk1 engine needs the high pressure pump primed) and started the car.
Car drives like a dream again. Meanwhile when the belt cut, dude was already thinking of buying a second hand engine as he thought his engine was gone and he didnt have any mechanic till he remembered me and gave me a call.

L300 buses in onitsha all run on diesel and they are still on the road.

My mech just changed the timing belt on a 2009 skoda octavia tdi two weeks ago. People said it was impossible but he laughed them off. The engine roared to life after three starts and has been fine ever since.
Don't let peoples fear fear you.

I stay in PH but i am currently out of town.

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Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by letuak(m): 4:46pm On Nov 18, 2017
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by Airborne02(m): 11:33am On Nov 25, 2017
I was here
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by JK768: 6:20am On Nov 26, 2017
Hello Nurey, 9icetoo etc.

My engine is D4 vvti (petrol/fuel) on my avensis 2003. I just bought and installed another D4 vvti after issues with the first one. The mechanic I use advised I convert to another engine type but I refused. Any advice for me.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by nurey(m): 7:17am On Nov 26, 2017
JK768:
Hello Nurey, 9icetoo etc.

My engine is D4 vvti (petrol/fuel) on my avensis 2003. I just bought and installed another D4 vvti after issues with the first one. The mechanic I use advised I convert to another engine type but I refused. Any advice for me.

the Toyota engines with the D4 technology are good but the D4 technology has issues and when it starts, there are little known information about it so could pose a headache to technicians just like the Mitsubishi GDI engines.

if changing it won't be too expensive and the technician can have a successful operation then you can go ahead.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by JK768: 7:58pm On Nov 27, 2017
nurey:


the Toyota engines with the D4 technology are good but the D4 technology has issues and when it starts, there are little known information about it so could pose a headache to technicians just like the Mitsubishi GDI engines.

if changing it won't be too expensive and the technician can have a successful operation then you can go ahead.


OK, thank you. I pray the new engine serves me well. Can you recommend oil? I used Total quartz 5000 once after installing the engine. I just did second service and changed to Total quartz 7000 because I noticed 5000 was reducing gradually. However the first two lines of your reply is a bit hard to understand. You said Toyota D 4 Engine are good and then they have issues. can you explain more ?. Thank you sir.
Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by nurey(m): 8:07pm On Nov 27, 2017
JK768:


OK, thank you. I pray the new engine serves me well. Can you recommend oil? I used Total quartz 5000 once after installing the engine. I just did second service and changed to Total quartz 7000 because I noticed 5000 was reducing gradually.

That engine is a sensitive one use the recommended oil weight from a known quality engine oil manufacturer

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Re: 2002 Toyota Avensis Needs Conversion From Diesel To Petrol Engine. by JK768: 8:16pm On Nov 27, 2017
nurey:


That engine is a sensitive one use the recommended oil weight from a known quality engine oil manufacturer


OK , thanks for your quick reply. I modified the post , you can look at it again. Thank you sir.

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