Farm for Rent. 65 Acres farm north of Oke Odan, Ogun State.
I am looking for a person, a group of persons or a company to rent my farm.
I have a 65 Acres farm north of Oke Odan, Ogun State. (10 Km west of Owode, Yewa)
The coordinate of center farm is 6° 45’ 40.39” N and 2°53’ 29.9” E
Farm is 6 years’ old
What’s on the farm:
• 3000+ trees of palm trees of varying ages from 6 to 1 year olds.
• About 8 acres uncultivated.
What Facilities are in the farm:
• A 2-bedroom Farm House,
• 1 Toyota truck (open back),
• 2 Motorcycles,
• A hand dug well with overhead tank and pump,
• A 5KVa petrol Generator
• A non-working tractor,
• palm oil making machines; 1 digester and 1 presser.
At the moment Farm is 25-30% efficiently run producing only 2500 Liter per year. If efficiency increases, in few 2-3 years’ farm is expected to produce 15,000 Liters of oil per year.

What a prospective farmer should have:
• Passion for farming (most important) and track record to prove it.
• A little capital required to run the farm for a month or 2 before you get money from palm oil you produce and sell.
What I will provide:
• A contract renewable every 2 years.
• All facilities in the farm listed above.
My expectations:
• Farm to be kept clean
• Palm trees to be clean with dead fronds to be removed.
• All facilities to be well maintained in the states in which I hand them over to you.
• A monthly royalty to me agreeable to both of us.
Please contact me if you think you can handle this. Write a proposal if you can and send to me.
What I really need in a prospective renter is passion for farming.
Send any question you have to oog6652@gmail.com. I will select the most qualified interests and conduct interview in January 2018. The selected renter will begin using farm around March 2018.

I am just curious why you are renting out the place to a passionate person you will interview. Are you saying you are not passionate enough to make it a profitable business? And maybe it was profitable but something else came up.

I may be interested but instead of you conducting interview for me, i will be the one to interogate (not interview) you. Why will I just want to rush and rent a farm with such facilities? The owner wanted to do real farming but something happened which i want to know. Just rushing to rent the so called juicy offer is.....

I will want to know why you are renting it out. Did you fail or what? Just curious to know. Perhaps you need real help to make it work for you. If it is still neat and not delapiated, why do you want to rent it out?

You may need to ask advice on how to make your farm profitable and run it well.

If it is a case whereby you are relocating elsewhere, there may still be options. I am just curious to know the details.

i do like to invest in farming. after my transportation biz buy the fear of THIEVES/HERDSMEN is the beginning of WISDOM.

fluentinfor:
I am just curious why you are renting out the place to a passionate person you will interview. Are you saying you are not passionate enough to make it a profitable business? And maybe it was profitable but something else came up.

I may be interested but instead of you conducting interview for me, i will be the one to interogate (not interview) you. Why will I just want to rush and rent a farm with such facilities? The owner wanted to do real farming but something happened which i want to know. Just rushing to rent the so called juicy offer is.....

I will want to know why you are renting it out. Did you fail or what? Just curious to know. Perhaps you need real help to make it work for you. If it is still neat and not delapiated, why do you want to rent it out?

You may need to ask advice on how to make your farm profitable and run it well.

If it is a case whereby you are relocating elsewhere, there may still be options. I am just curious to know the details.

I think it's juicy because i am not asking any money from anyone.
And to answer your question about why. The reason is my residence at the moment is reasonably distant that I cant efficiently run the farm. I have done it for these times and found out it is not effective.
Let me know if you have any question

oogalabs2:



I think it's juicy because i am not asking any money from anyone.
And to answer your question about why. The reason is my residence at the moment is reasonably distant that I cant efficiently run the farm. I have done it for these times and found out it is not effective.
Let me know if you have any question

The reason for doing this looks reasonable at first but there are more to it. Also, I think you need to change your heading.

A rented farm is one whereby monthly, yearly or whatever period charges is paid. So, I do not think your offer is a rent. A rentage contract is the same as a lease contract.

In your case, you want monthly loyalty and I think it is partnership you are looking for. But there are points I am going to highlight here that make me have a deep thought about this your juicy offer. I really do not see it juicy until you address these issues well. They are:

1. You listed two motorbikes as your part of your assets. Does it mean your farm road is not good? And it is palm oil one has to move out. Also, there are other by-products which are heavy and are large volumes which should give more profit. I am trying to get it if it is motorbikes which will be moving them out at some periods of the year like rainy season when the road might be extremely terrible. Though, you have a truck but having two bikes is saying something to me. In short, how good the road leading to your farm is vital. And how far your farm is to the major road is vital too. If it is not good, no matter the paradize you have on your farm, it is absolutely not juicy. And you need to really be flexible with your offer.

2. Your trees are producing just 2,500 liters per annum now and you want monthly loyalty. How do you want this new guy do it? And to crown it, you are offering 2 years contract. Though, you said can be renewed. And which means it can be terminated too anytime. You and I know that it is after that 2 years you have given that production starts getting better. Come on! Can you leave the farm and let the guy continue for the next 10 years or more? Will you not kick him out after 4 years? After he has done the hard part for you? Death is a debt we all have to pay. I am not saying you are going to die now but will you include it in your will that the person must continue production after your departure? Won't your children kick his ass out later? Even it is after 15 years the business is really good. This is a long term business mehn! So, it is like you want someone else to come in and do the hard part for you while you lay claim of the farm when it is really profitable later. And then, distance will not be a barrier again. It seems so to me. Please address this very well.

3. The 8 acres you talked about must still be a thick forest. Seriously, the cost of buying that land is cheaper than clearing it and you and I know very well. If stumps must be removed, the cost of clearing is higher than the cost of buying the land. So, do you not see it as an investment the new guy is making on your farm too? I tell anyone I want to use his farm straight. I am helping you to clear your land which is huge investment. If you have the capital, you would have cleared it and then tell me to just come cultivate and pay rent. So, many times, it is why i just leave stumps and go through the pain of using cutlasses and axe clearing system (very painful exercise and not efficient) and I will deliberately leave many big stumps so that it discourages the owner from layimg claim to it after i have spent so much on clearimg it. Once owners see their land has been cleared well, they always do not want to renew contracts. But it is bad for our agricultural system. So, please do you see that it is not so juicy? Please, address this issue too.

4. To install 5kva generator to produce just 2,500 liters per annum now is funny ooo. Might be, it would have been better you send your fruits to mills instead of doing it now and wait till you have enough fruits that will make sense with the capacity of factory you have now. It means, you just need to run at loss for like 6 years or more before you start making profit. I think you did not consult an expert before setting up. Or the expert was just interested in selling you equipments and you fell for it. It is what I am seeing happenimg here again. Except you can convince me that 2,500 liters will cover the cost of production and give reasonable profit to the extent of you collecting monthly loyalty. You may need to run figures here. You see why I said I will interrogate you.

4. I do not see long distance to farm as you claimed as the real barrier here; though, i kinda accepted it in my first paragraph. I think the business is not just profitable now.

5. There is no way anyone can make your farm be exactly the way you released it. There must be wear and tear. So, i might not be able to sign for doing repairs and other stuff if it has to do with wear and tear.

6. The person coming in will spend so much to make it profitable and it is the truth.

Recommendation:
1. I think you need to accept the fact that the business is still not profitable and what you should do is write it out explicitly the challenges and look for partners or investors that can make it work well since it seems you need more fund to get on. You have really tried I must confess.

2. What you need now is to do short term crops so you can make money. And it is vegetables, herbs or spices you should do. The choice of veggie must be looked into well since it seems the road to your farm is not good.

You have really tried. I salute your courage to go into such long term investment. You are a real risk taker. The only area you left out is creating short term business on your farm to give you income while your palm trees are getting ready to make you rich.

So, I think I am the one giving you free advice (consultation). And it makes my service to you extremely juicy

fluentinfor:


The reason for doing this looks reasonable at first but there are more to it. Also, I think you need to change your heading.

A rented farm is one whereby monthly, yearly or whatever period charges is paid. So, I do not think your offer is a rent. A rentage contract is the same as a lease contract.

In your case, you want monthly loyalty and I think it is partnership you are looking for. But there are points I am going to highlight here that make me have a deep thought about this your juicy offer. I really do not see it juicy until you address these issues well. They are:

1. You listed two motorbikes as your part of your assets. Does it mean your farm road is not good? And it is palm oil one has to move out. Also, there are other by-products which are heavy and are large volumes which should give more profit. I am trying to get it if it is motorbikes which will be moving them out at some periods of the year like rainy season when the road might be extremely terrible. Though, you have a truck but having two bikes is saying something to me. In short, how good the road leading to your farm is vital. And how far your farm is to the major road is vital too. If it is not good, no matter the paradize you have on your farm, it is absolutely not juicy. And you need to really be flexible with your offer.

2. Your trees are producing just 2,500 liters per annum now and you want monthly loyalty. How do you want this new guy do it? And to crown it, you are offering 2 years contract. Though, you said can be renewed. And which means it can be terminated too anytime. You and I know that it is after that 2 years you have given that production starts getting better. Come on! Can you leave the farm and let the guy continue for the next 10 years or more? Will you not kick him out after 4 years? After he has done the hard part for you? Death is a debt we all have to pay. I am not saying you are going to die now but will you include it in your will that the person must continue production after your departure? Won't your children kick his ass out later? Even it is after 15 years the business is really good. This is a long term business mehn! So, it is like you want someone else to come in and do the hard part for you while you lay claim of the farm when it is really profitable later. And then, distance will not be a barrier again. It seems so to me. Please address this very well.

3. The 8 acres you talked about must still be a thick forest. Seriously, the cost of buying that land is cheaper than clearing it and you and I know very well. If stumps must be removed, the cost of clearing is higher than the cost of buying the land. So, do you not see it as an investment the new guy is making on your farm too? I tell anyone I want to use his farm straight. I am helping you to clear your land which is huge investment. If you have the capital, you would have cleared it and then tell me to just come cultivate and pay rent. So, many times, it is why i just leave stumps and go through the pain of using cutlasses and axe clearing system (very painful exercise and not efficient) and I will deliberately leave many big stumps so that it discourages the owner from layimg claim to it after i have spent so much on clearimg it. Once owners see their land has been cleared well, they always do not want to renew contracts. But it is bad for our agricultural system. So, please do you see that it is not so juicy? Please, address this issue too.

4. To install 5kva generator to produce just 2,500 liters per annum now is funny ooo. Might be, it would have been better you send your fruits to mills instead of doing it now and wait till you have enough fruits that will make sense with the capacity of factory you have now. It means, you just need to run at loss for like 6 years or more before you start making profit. I think you did not consult an expert before setting up. Or the expert was just interested in selling you equipments and you fell for it. It is what I am seeing happenimg here again. Except you can convince me that 2,500 liters will cover the cost of production and give reasonable profit to the extent of you collecting monthly loyalty. You may need to run figures here. You see why I said I will interrogate you.

4. I do not see long distance to farm as you claimed as the real barrier here; though, i kinda accepted it in my first paragraph. I think the business is not just profitable now.

5. There is no way anyone can make your farm be exactly the way you released it. There must be wear and tear. So, i might not be able to sign for doing repairs and other stuff if it has to do with wear and tear.

6. The person coming in will spend so much to make it profitable and it is the truth.

Recommendation:
1. I think you need to accept the fact that the business is still not profitable and what you should do is write it out explicitly the challenges and look for partners or investors that can make it work well since it seems you need more fund to get on. You have really tried I must confess.

2. What you need now is to do short term crops so you can make money. And it is vegetables, herbs or spices you should do. The choice of veggie must be looked into well since it seems the road to your farm is not good.

You have really tried. I salute your courage to go into such long term investment. You are a real risk taker. The only area you left out is creating short term business on your farm to give you income while your palm trees are getting ready to make you rich.

So, I think I am the one giving you free advice (consultation). And it makes my service to you extremely juicy

Your points are well taken.
However, you have made too many incorrect assumptions.
I request questions and not assumptions.
I supplied a coordinate and any interested person will plot that on a map and make a decision.
I will form a relationship with whoever i find best fit to run the farm.
Farm is simply not efficiently run at this time for the reason of proximity of my location.

oogalabs2:


Your points are well taken.
However, you have made too many incorrect assumptions.
I request questions and not assumptions.
I supplied a coordinate and any interested person will plot that on a map and make a decision.
I will form a relationship with whoever i find best fit to run the farm.
Farm is simply not efficiently run at this time for the reason of proximity of my location.

The right thing to do is point out the assumptions, separate them from questions and attend to them very well. I do not think the state of the road will be known with latitudes and longitudes. From experience, this is what always happen. And I think anyone who wants to look into it will take note of all i have written.

Every genuine seller or offerer who is hiding nothing will attend to all points raised. Will show the assumptions are wrong and answer all questions very well

Like I said, i will be the one to interrogate you.

I wish anyone going into it best of luck. That you want to rent it out tells me many things are wrong and you have just confirmed it.

No problem. Nagode!

fluentinfor:


The right thing to do is point out the assumptions, separate them from questions and attend to them very well. I do not think the state of the road will be known with latitudes and longitudes. From experience, this is what always happen. And I think anyone who wants to look into it will take note of all i have written.

Every genuine seller or offerer who is hiding nothing will attend to all points raised. Will show the assumptions are wrong and answer all questions very well

Like I said, i will be the one to interrogate you.

I wish anyone going into it best of luck. That you want to rent it out tells me many things are wrong and you have just confirmed it.

No problem. Nagode!

If you are interested, schedule a time and my staff will take you visit the farm and you can ask all question you want.

oogalabs2:

If you are interested, schedule a time and my staff will take you visit the farm and you can ask all question you want.

How do you ever think I can be interested anymore? Lol. The questions and assumptions I raised here are what your staff will explain to me when you the assumed owner cannot. Come on!

You put an advert on a public forum and someone has concerns which are common to the Nigerian society but you cannot counter the so called assumptions and answer the questions you find there.

I am no more interested. In fact, i went through another thread of yours on Palm oil where you wrote that mechanized clearing is more expensive than cutlasses and axe clearing system. Come on! Seriously? People work in South West too. Come on! It may be more expensive for ONLY you cos the guys find your road terribble. If tractor or bulldozer person finds your place expensive, how much do you expect palm oil kegs and other things moved out?

In addition, you advised getting land "inside, inside" a remote area because of owners fraudulent activities. Seriously, you wrote that? As soon as I read that I gave up. I understand your frustrations. If any farm is too far from the main road and I have to ride on a bike for even 10 mins, I do not take it. Never and never. I repeat Never! Unless you are able to show me that it is not far from the main road. I do not need to waste my precious time to visit your farm before you give me such answer and your so called centre coordinates of your farm cannot realy address this issue. Even if it answers the distance which is possible if the main road is on the map, it will never give the condition of the road. This is always my first question. There is nothing wrong in an honest offerer giving the true state of the road. It is expected of you and it is just what is right to do. If you think one must enter your farm before he knows about this, then, the person should be ready to unravel so many hidden issues. A beg, i am no longer interested in your offer anymore. Thank you!

Another theory to the above paragraph is that you just did not know where to get good agricultural land clearing service. How can you say manual clearing is cheaper? Obviously wrong choices were made.

And the two paragraphs are assumptions again to you? But those assumptions are to bring out real fact you should address but you prefer to allow your staff answer privately. Or you answer after I have wasted my time going "inside inside" a bush. The way we do business in this country baffles me.

But funny, a lady contacted me two months ago about leasing her farm. After interrogation, she saw reasons to try again. And I ended up partnering with her because she was so straight forward. I was ready to sacrifice the rigorous and terrible road. Her personality, openness, truthfulness at the time she could have lied just to get me send her money made me partner with her. I look out for good character and truthfulness and being straight forward first. For me, it is character before skills. And it is why I employ unskilled workers with good character who I can train, and dump skillful workers with questionable character.

And you still expect me to visit your farm? The "grey" areas you cannot make straight or correct here are what your staff will attend to when you the owner is not able to. Doesn't that look very funny? Or perhaps, you are not the owner yourself and it makes sense if you are not.

The last assumption is that perhaps you aren't the owner and after the owner had been frustrated, he decided to lease it out and you will get your cut from it too.

Sure, these are assumptions and possible theories but they make sense. And this is how lawyers "interrogate" in courts. They bring out facts from assumptions. You do not need to answer or address them but we already have an idea of what to meet there and the kind of responses we will start getting as your tenant/partner after signing a contract with you. This is purely psychology. Your style says a lot to me.

I do not need to ask further questions and I do not need to press it further if it was one-on-one with me. Also, I do not need to really make you understand why the so called assumptions are needed to be addressed. But for the fact that this is a public forum, I need to make readers see the reasons. If it were one-on-one and you gave me such first response, your offer is already in my gabbage and case closed after your first response.

Also, I read where you advised against buying tractors to do farming activities but to rent from government offices. While I agree it is nice at the initial stage of setting up a farm but your kind of big land needs tractor of its own which must be on the farm. In fact, there was someone I met recently who is just starting and he is also bringing in a tractor and many other equipment and I was trying to caution him but he felt he knows all. I just left him alone. Lol. It seems you made so many wrong choices. You bought the tractor too early and there are many people like you who I have corrected. The ones that listened to me and humbly asked for help have the reasons to smile today while the ones that were angry after interrogation are still there. So, you want me to repair your non working tractor and you called the offer juicy? You handed over to me a non working tractor but you think what makes your tractor not to work cannot make some other equipment not to work at the end of our contract? And you are saying I must hand over everything you released the way they are when you cannot even release your tractor in a good working condition? Is this not funny? Or you made another terrible choice of buying a bad tractor and I will be the one to make it work for you. Heaven knows what I would spend to make your tractor work. And then, I am kicked out after maximum of 4 years when business is beginning to be sweet.. Oga, a no dey your kind of partnership at all.

A beg. I dey move away from your thread of offer. No more comment from me. No matter what your response to this post is, I will not make a single comment anymore. I just pray Nigerians shine their eyes "well well" before we hear another story here.

Blessings!

fluentinfor:


How do you ever think I can be interested anymore? Lol. The questions and assumptions I raised here are what your staff will explain to me when you the assumed owner cannot. Come on!


A beg. I dey move away from your thread of offer. No more comment from me. No matter what your response to this post is, I will not make a single comment anymore. I just pray Nigerians shine their eyes "well well" before we hear another story here.

Blessings!

You seem to be an intelligent fellow. Especially since you are able to articulate your thoughts very well.
I choose not to address your assumptions.
I will just state that; the farm is not efficiently run at the moment, because I am running it from out of the country. Secondly, all in my advert are correct and whomever i choose to run this farm will ultimately agree it's a good deal.

fluentinfor:


The reason for doing this looks reasonable at first but there are more to it. Also, I think you need to change your heading.

A rented farm is one whereby monthly, yearly or whatever period charges is paid. So, I do not think your offer is a rent. A rentage contract is the same as a lease contract.

In your case, you want monthly loyalty and I think it is partnership you are looking for. But there are points I am going to highlight here that make me have a deep thought about this your juicy offer. I really do not see it juicy until you address these issues well. They are:

1. You listed two motorbikes as your part of your assets. Does it mean your farm road is not good? And it is palm oil one has to move out. Also, there are other by-products which are heavy and are large volumes which should give more profit. I am trying to get it if it is motorbikes which will be moving them out at some periods of the year like rainy season when the road might be extremely terrible. Though, you have a truck but having two bikes is saying something to me. In short, how good the road leading to your farm is vital. And how far your farm is to the major road is vital too. If it is not good, no matter the paradize you have on your farm, it is absolutely not juicy. And you need to really be flexible with your offer.

2. Your trees are producing just 2,500 liters per annum now and you want monthly loyalty. How do you want this new guy do it? And to crown it, you are offering 2 years contract. Though, you said can be renewed. And which means it can be terminated too anytime. You and I know that it is after that 2 years you have given that production starts getting better. Come on! Can you leave the farm and let the guy continue for the next 10 years or more? Will you not kick him out after 4 years? After he has done the hard part for you? Death is a debt we all have to pay. I am not saying you are going to die now but will you include it in your will that the person must continue production after your departure? Won't your children kick his ass out later? Even it is after 15 years the business is really good. This is a long term business mehn! So, it is like you want someone else to come in and do the hard part for you while you lay claim of the farm when it is really profitable later. And then, distance will not be a barrier again. It seems so to me. Please address this very well.

3. The 8 acres you talked about must still be a thick forest. Seriously, the cost of buying that land is cheaper than clearing it and you and I know very well. If stumps must be removed, the cost of clearing is higher than the cost of buying the land. So, do you not see it as an investment the new guy is making on your farm too? I tell anyone I want to use his farm straight. I am helping you to clear your land which is huge investment. If you have the capital, you would have cleared it and then tell me to just come cultivate and pay rent. So, many times, it is why i just leave stumps and go through the pain of using cutlasses and axe clearing system (very painful exercise and not efficient) and I will deliberately leave many big stumps so that it discourages the owner from layimg claim to it after i have spent so much on clearimg it. Once owners see their land has been cleared well, they always do not want to renew contracts. But it is bad for our agricultural system. So, please do you see that it is not so juicy? Please, address this issue too.

4. To install 5kva generator to produce just 2,500 liters per annum now is funny ooo. Might be, it would have been better you send your fruits to mills instead of doing it now and wait till you have enough fruits that will make sense with the capacity of factory you have now. It means, you just need to run at loss for like 6 years or more before you start making profit. I think you did not consult an expert before setting up. Or the expert was just interested in selling you equipments and you fell for it. It is what I am seeing happenimg here again. Except you can convince me that 2,500 liters will cover the cost of production and give reasonable profit to the extent of you collecting monthly loyalty. You may need to run figures here. You see why I said I will interrogate you.

4. I do not see long distance to farm as you claimed as the real barrier here; though, i kinda accepted it in my first paragraph. I think the business is not just profitable now.

5. There is no way anyone can make your farm be exactly the way you released it. There must be wear and tear. So, i might not be able to sign for doing repairs and other stuff if it has to do with wear and tear.

6. The person coming in will spend so much to make it profitable and it is the truth.

Recommendation:
1. I think you need to accept the fact that the business is still not profitable and what you should do is write it out explicitly the challenges and look for partners or investors that can make it work well since it seems you need more fund to get on. You have really tried I must confess.

2. What you need now is to do short term crops so you can make money. And it is vegetables, herbs or spices you should do. The choice of veggie must be looked into well since it seems the road to your farm is not good.

You have really tried. I salute your courage to go into such long term investment. You are a real risk taker. The only area you left out is creating short term business on your farm to give you income while your palm trees are getting ready to make you rich.

So, I think I am the one giving you free advice (consultation). And it makes my service to you extremely juicy

am surprised to see this farm up for rent but i understand why. The owner of the farm is well known to me and i have been to the farm. You made some assumptions which are clearly not the case. The owner believes if he was in the country the farmwould ru. more efficiently and be profitable. Many times he pays for services that are not done or poorly done and has to be redone. He can only visit once or twice so the workers are taking advantage of that. He has a security man or caretaker on the farm, this is the guy that uses the motorbike. it was misused and he had to buy another, he was just trying to make things convenient for the guys. The road to the farm is motorable, they are smugglers roads, i went in a car and the car got there with scratches from branches and shrubs.

if you really are an investor, then i want to vouch for the OPs character, based on what you said i think you are a very okay guy and knows the biz. i have known the farm owner foe 20 years as a big bros to me. I think the two of you can actually do well. He is a man of integrity and honesty. The uncultivated 8 acres is not inside any bush. its just a part that has not been planted with palms. its part of the whole parcel, there are other farms all around the bothers of the farm.

bros sorry for answering without permissions, i know say you no send me the message.

rabzy:


am surprised to see this farm up for rent but i understand why. The owner of the farm is well known to me and i have been to the farm. You made some assumptions which are clearly not the case. The owner believes if he was in the country the farmwould ru. more efficiently and be profitable. Many times he pays for services that are not done or poorly done and has to be redone. He can only visit once or twice so the workers are taking advantage of that. He has a security man or caretaker on the farm, this is the guy that uses the motorbike. it was misused and he had to buy another, he was just trying to make things convenient for the guys. The road to the farm is motorable, they are smugglers roads, i went in a car and the car got there with scratches from branches and shrubs.

if you really are an investor, then i want to vouch for the OPs character, based on what you said i think you are a very okay guy and knows the biz. i have known the farm owner foe 20 years as a big bros to me. I think the two of you can actually do well. He is a man of integrity and honesty. The uncultivated 8 acres is not inside any bush. its just a part that has not been planted with palms. its part of the whole parcel, there are other farms all around the bothers of the farm.

bros sorry for answering without permissions, i know say you no send me the message.

Your comments and recommendation cannot be overlooked. Bro, I know you are forced to make this comment because the assumptions are logical. You know within yourself that if the issues aren't addressed, this farm might not get interested people on this platform. Or might get responses from just some casual people. And since I do not write to destroy the reputation of anyone, i will make some comments. But I think you would have made a better judgement than the owner.

Seriously, i think the owner does not know how to quickly spot signals. If he cannot quickly spot he is limiting his chances of getting a good tenant if he doesn't address the issues raised, then, i believe he did not spot the signals that his workers were "bleeding" his business very early enough. And frankly speaking, he may move from frying-pan to fire with this method he wants to use. It may not be his best option.

Back to your comment. I checked the coordinates and with what you wrote, it seems the farm is along the farm land of Ogun Osun River Basin. The farm with a central Pivot System. If I am right, that road is used by rice smugglers from Benin Republic. I experienced that once and I had to clear off the road for thousands of bikes all cycling at top speed with 3 to 6 bags of rice attached to their bikes at the same time. They always remove the passengers seat. Though the road was made for accessing farms but they found it as a way out to avoid customs and police along the main road. It was crazy. That day I realised Fulani and his herds fear their lives too. Come see how cattles "picked race" and cleared off the road for these bike riders. I could not laugh because I had to save myself too. Mehn! It was crazy. Perhaps this is the road you are talking about. It was rumble in the jungle - Bike Formular One in Owode/Idi-Iroko.

Most of my assumptions are reasonable and they produced answers to some of my questions. Like I said, I do not need to go to the farm before I know what to meet there.

Unknowing to the owner, the main attraction for me was not the palm trees but I know if I have to get the farm, I must take care of his palm trees as this is his own focus. The main atttaction for me are even his 10 acres, and the non working tractor on his farm. But he did not realise that at times, what he feels his juicy is not to another person. One man's meat is a poison to another. I know within me that I am not going to make the kind of profit I want with his trees. He cannot boldly tell me he is still going to retain me as a partner in 10- 25 years when his trees are producing at optimum. You may call it another assumption but the probability is very high he will relocate to Nigeria to take over the farm before that time. You see what I mean.

Well, he may be a good "bros" to you which I do not doubt but for me, he has just failed to realise I may be his best shot and since he thinks he is dashing me the best juicy offer, and his stands on not elaborating on the so called juicy offer, i am sure he will not want to elaborate on many other things in the future. No matter how juicy any offer is, I look first for a good relationship.

He was forced to mention that he is abroad. I mean i was just trying to get it that why does he want to lease out a farm because it is far from him. His farm is like the next bus stop to Lagos and I was just wondering. Or will he tell me that he resides in Osun where land is cheaper and decided to set up a farm in Ogun? It doesnt make sense to me that he is far away from his farm at the initial stage. He mentioned only palm trees, and weekly visitation is enough. He is not doing veggie which needs serious tender care. Until i forced him to say it that he does not reside in Nigeria. Funny, the so called assumptions forced him to say it. WHY? The assumptions are not baseless.

My fear is this: will I make him voice out details everytime I need info from him? Seriously, farming is hard enough, and it makes one dig deep, using 90% of ones brain. I do not have the strength to start cracking my brain on presenting cases to my landlord because I have to make assumptions that will force him to give me details everytime.

Like I said, it is the 10-acres part, and the non working tractor that attracted me to his offer. And since he refused to give details about them, his offer is not juicy in any way to me. Not at all. It is like I am going to work his farm for him.

I hope you understand me clearly sir.

fluentinfor:


Your comments and recommendation cannot be overlooked. Bro, I know you are forced to make this comment because the assumptions are logical. You know within yourself that if the issues aren't addressed, this farm might not get interested people on this platform. Or might get responses from just some casual people. And since I do not write to destroy the reputation of anyone, i will make some comments. But I think you would have made a better judgement than the owner.

Seriously, i think the owner does not know how to quickly spot signals. If he cannot quickly spot he is limiting his chances of getting a good tenant if he doesn't address the issues raised, then, i believe he did not spot the signals that his workers were "bleeding" his business very early enough. And frankly speaking, he may move from frying-pan to fire with this method he wants to use. It may not be his best option.

Back to your comment. I checked the coordinates and with what you wrote, it seems the farm is along the farm land of Ogun Osun River Basin. The farm with a central Pivot System. If I am right, that road is used by rice smugglers from Benin Republic. I experienced that once and I had to clear off the road for thousands of bikes all cycling at top speed with 3 to 6 bags of rice attached to their bikes at the same time. They always remove the passengers seat. Though the road was made for accessing farms but they found it as a way out to avoid customs and police along the main road. It was crazy. That day I realised Fulani and his herds fear their lives too. Come see how cattles "picked race" and cleared off the road for these bike riders. I could not laugh because I had to save myself too. Mehn! It was crazy. Perhaps this is the road you are talking about. It was rumble in the jungle - Bike Formular One in Owode/Idi-Iroko.

Most of my assumptions are reasonable and they produced answers to some of my questions. Like I said, I do not need to go to the farm before I know what to meet there.

Unknowing to the owner, the main attraction for me was not the palm trees but I know if I have to get the farm, I must take care of his palm trees as this is his own focus. The main atttaction for me are even his 10 acres, and the non working tractor on his farm. But he did not realise that at times, what he feels his juicy is not to another person. One man's meat is a poison to another. I know within me that I am not going to make the kind of profit I want with his trees. He cannot boldly tell me he is still going to retain me as a partner in 10- 25 years when his trees are producing at optimum. You may call it another assumption but the probability is very high he will relocate to Nigeria to take over the farm before that time. You see what I mean.

Well, he may be a good "bros" to you which I do not doubt but for me, he has just failed to realise I may be his best shot and since he thinks he is dashing me the best juicy offer, and his stands on not elaborating on the so called juicy offer, i am sure he will not want to elaborate on many other things in the future. No matter how juicy any offer is, I look first for a good relationship.

He was forced to mention that he is abroad. I mean i was just trying to get it that why does he want to lease out a farm because it is far from him. His farm is like the next bus stop to Lagos and I was just wondering. Or will he tell me that he resides in Osun where land is cheaper and decided to set up a farm in Ogun? It doesnt make sense to me that he is far away from his farm at the initial stage. He mentioned only palm trees, and weekly visitation is enough. He is not doing veggie which needs serious tender care. Until i forced him to say it that he does not reside in Nigeria. Funny, the so called assumptions forced him to say it. WHY? The assumptions are not baseless.

My fear is this: will I make him voice out details everytime I need info from him? Seriously, farming is hard enough, and it makes one dig deep, using 90% of ones brain. I do not have the strength to start cracking my brain on presenting cases to my landlord because I have to make assumptions that will force him to give me details everytime.

Like I said, it is the 10-acres part, and the non working tractor that attracted me to his offer. And since he refused to give details about them, his offer is not juicy in any way to me. Not at all. It is like I am going to work his farm for him.

I hope you understand me clearly sir.

like i said i appreciate your candor and straight talking. Some people are averse to social media due to their training and professions. So they prefer not to be communicative on social media because of its nature. This is a public forum and some people prefer talking business in a more formal way. you are absolutely right about the location and the smugglers. There are yoruba farmers with herds on their land and even the owner has some cows with a fulani man and his wife tending to them. I am asking that you send him a mail and check it out because i want the farm to succeed. The owner is a well respected prefessional in his field and i dont see him relocating here. The farm is another project and a passion for him, he comes around and personally do some farm work with his workers. I want you to for the benefit of doubt contact him and see whether ot can take off.

fluentinfor:


Your comments and recommendation cannot be overlooked. Bro, I know you are forced to make this comment because the assumptions are logical. You know within yourself that if the issues aren't addressed, this farm might not get interested people on this platform. Or might get responses from just some casual people. And since I do not write to destroy the reputation of anyone, i will make some comments. But I think you would have made a better judgement than the owner.

I hope you understand me clearly sir.

All the information I have provided are just enough. Further info will be provided to anyone who shows interest. oog6652@gmail.com.

Like I wrote in my ad, passion for farming is my number 1 requirement.

Please confirm whether the plantation is still on for lease. Thanks.

Benitafarms:
Please confirm whether the plantation is still on for lease. Thanks.

Not anymore.
I made some few staff changes and i am confident efficiency will improve. i'll watch for 1 year and see what happens.
I also think oil price will be stable 2018-2019

How do you ever think I can be interested anymore? Lol. The questions and assumptions I raised here are what your staff will explain to me when you the assumed owner cannot. Come on!

You put an advert on a public forum and someone has concerns which are common to the Nigerian society but you cannot counter the so called assumptions and answer the questions you find there.

I am no more interested. In fact, i went through another thread of yours on Palm oil where you wrote that mechanized clearing is more expensive than cutlasses and axe clearing system. Come on! Seriously? People work in South West too. Come on! It may be more expensive for ONLY you cos the guys find your road terribble. If tractor or bulldozer person finds your place expensive, how much do you expect palm oil kegs and other things moved out?

In addition, you advised getting land "inside, inside" a remote area because of owners fraudulent activities. Seriously, you wrote that? As soon as I read that I gave up. I understand your frustrations. If any farm is too far from the main road and I have to ride on a bike for even 10 mins, I do not take it. Never and never. I repeat Never! Unless you are able to show me that it is not far from the main road. I do not need to waste my precious time to visit your farm before you give me such answer and your so called centre coordinates of your farm cannot realy address this issue. Even if it answers the distance which is possible if the main road is on the map, it will never give the condition of the road. This is always my first question. There is nothing wrong in an honest offerer giving the true state of the road. It is expected of you and it is just what is right to do. If you think one must enter your farm before he knows about this, then, the person should be ready to unravel so many hidden issues. A beg, i am no longer interested in your offer anymore. Thank you!

Another theory to the above paragraph is that you just did not know where to get good agricultural land clearing service. How can you say manual clearing is cheaper? Obviously wrong choices were made.

And the two paragraphs are assumptions again to you? But those assumptions are to bring out real fact you should address but you prefer to allow your staff answer privately. Or you answer after I have wasted my time going "inside inside" a bush. The way we do business in this country baffles me.

But funny, a lady contacted me two months ago about leasing her farm. After interrogation, she saw reasons to try again. And I ended up partnering with her because she was so straight forward. I was ready to sacrifice the rigorous and terrible road. Her personality, openness, truthfulness at the time she could have lied just to get me send her money made me partner with her. I look out for good character and truthfulness and being straight forward first. For me, it is character before skills. And it is why I employ unskilled workers with good character who I can train, and dump skillful workers with questionable character.

And you still expect me to visit your farm? The "grey" areas you cannot make straight or correct here are what your staff will attend to when you the owner is not able to. Doesn't that look very funny? Or perhaps, you are not the owner yourself and it makes sense if you are not.

The last assumption is that perhaps you aren't the owner and after the owner had been frustrated, he decided to lease it out and you will get your cut from it too.

Sure, these are assumptions and possible theories but they make sense. And this is how lawyers "interrogate" in courts. They bring out facts from assumptions. You do not need to answer or address them but we already have an idea of what to meet there and the kind of responses we will start getting as your tenant/partner after signing a contract with you. This is purely psychology. Your style says a lot to me.

I do not need to ask further questions and I do not need to press it further if it was one-on-one with me. Also, I do not need to really make you understand why the so called assumptions are needed to be addressed. But for the fact that this is a public forum, I need to make readers see the reasons. If it were one-on-one and you gave me such first response, your offer is already in my gabbage and case closed after your first response.

Also, I read where you advised against buying tractors to do farming activities but to rent from government offices. While I agree it is nice at the initial stage of setting up a farm but your kind of big land needs tractor of its own which must be on the farm. In fact, there was someone I met recently who is just starting and he is also bringing in a tractor and many other equipment and I was trying to caution him but he felt he knows all. I just left him alone. Lol. It seems you made so many wrong choices. You bought the tractor too early and there are many people like you who I have corrected. The ones that listened to me and humbly asked for help have the reasons to smile today while the ones that were angry after interrogation are still there. So, you want me to repair your non working tractor and you called the offer juicy? You handed over to me a non working tractor but you think what makes your tractor not to work cannot make some other equipment not to work at the end of our contract? And you are saying I must hand over everything you released the way they are when you cannot even release your tractor in a good working condition? Is this not funny? Or you made another terrible choice of buying a bad tractor and I will be the one to make it work for you. Heaven knows what I would spend to make your tractor work. And then, I am kicked out after maximum of 4 years when business is beginning to be sweet.. Oga, a no dey your kind of partnership at all.

A beg. I dey move away from your thread of offer. No more comment from me. No matter what your response to this post is, I will not make a single comment anymore. I just pray Nigerians shine their eyes "well well" before we hear another story here.

Blessings!

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