Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,152,121 members, 7,814,936 topics. Date: Thursday, 02 May 2024 at 12:10 AM

Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... - Religion - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... (2247 Views)

I Need Deliverance, I Have No Peace Of Mind When I'm Rich / I Need Deliverance From Powers From Fathers' House- Help Me Please / Help!! I Have A Spirit/Marine Wife. I Need Deliverance (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (Reply) (Go Down)

Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 11:38pm On Dec 28, 2017
Ignorance is when you are born again and you have the Holy Spirit living in you, but you still think you need deliverance.

The deliverance you need is the knowledge of the word of God, understanding the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ. Feed on His word. Feed on the word of God frequently and you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

2 Corinthians 5 :17, Hosea 4:6, John 8:32.....

4 Likes

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 12:04am On Dec 29, 2017
Colossians 2:6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by Nobody: 12:50am On Dec 29, 2017
The HQ of all confusions is wen u believe that God created a son n sent him to die on the cross n spill his blood to cleans u so that he can forgive u ur sin that he created.

U drink blood of God n u baff wit it too n yet u haven't noticed that ur a ritualist.

1 Like 1 Share

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by eberetos: 4:35am On Dec 29, 2017
OP, you never see fire before....

1 Like

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by enilove(m): 8:22am On Dec 29, 2017
JesusSonOfGod:
Ignorance is when you are born again and you have the Holy Spirit living in you, but you still think you need deliverance.

The deliverance you need is the knowledge of the word of God, understanding the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ. Feed on His word. Feed on the word of God frequently and you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

2 Corinthians 5 :17, Hosea 4:6, John 8:32.....

What is the meaning of deliverance ?

If can answer that ,it would mean you know what you are posting
Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 11:33am On Dec 29, 2017
enilove:


What is the meaning of deliverance ?

If can answer that ,it would mean you know what you are posting

I think you should first understand why Jesus came, what He did and why He did it. When you say you are born again, yet you still pray against generational curses, that's like raising a defeated giant, arming him and fighting him again.

Get this one now! It gives Satan joy when the redeemed of the Lord pray such prayers. As a born again praying against generational curses, foundation, against place of birth....They are prayers of unbelief.

The enemy does not want you to know who you really are in the Lord, so he creates lies to make you believe they are real so you will think you still need to battle an already finished work.

Such prayers are prayers of unbelief. Remember, we are saved because we believe, why then act contrary to what we are supposed to believe since we have been saved. I will post scriptures later.

Please, let's stop insulting the Blood of Jesus Christ. The blood is so expensive that it didn't do the job half don. Jesus handed over victory to us and not battle, all we need to do is live on that consciousness and live by faith.

Whom the son has set free is free indeed. I will explain more with scriptures later.

3 Likes

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 12:07pm On Dec 29, 2017
enilove:


What is the meaning of deliverance ?

If can answer that ,it would mean you know what you are posting

To answer your question, true deliverance is believing that Jesus Christ died for me on the cross. He shed his blood so my sins will be forgiven. It is knowing that I died with Him in baptism and was raised with Him and that he has given me a new life and has disconnected me from my old foundation which is linked down to my father, my father's father down to Adam.

Since Jesus is the 2nd Adam and since he gave me a new life, He didn't leave me empty, He gave me His Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Sonship, which has made me a joint heir with Jesus and now God Almighty is my father. It is knowing that I am now linked to the 2nd Adam(Jesus Christ) and no more the first Adam which the link is from my father down to him.

So therefore, generational curses has nothing to do with the new me, yes it had something to do with the old me when I was not redeemed, when I was still connected to the first Adam and because that first me died with Jesus during baptism by emersion and was raised a new person of which I am now a joint heir with Jesus and now I am the son of God. God is my new family. I no longer have anything to do with generational curses because the enemy no longer has the legal right on the new me, he had the legal right to use it against the old me, but now the old me is dead. I am a new creature and a brand new. Even when the effects of the curses seem to manifest on the new me, I let the devil know he has lost the legal right and I resist him by faith and he flees. I am now a winner!

I just hope you understand this. But will you?

2 Likes 1 Share

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by Nobody: 1:39pm On Dec 29, 2017
I don't know where Nigerian Christians saw their own deliverance O...
they be shouting enemies die.... when Christ said go and preach....

3 Likes

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by paxonel(m): 1:49pm On Dec 29, 2017
Witches and wizards do not exist in the realm of christianity, What exist is Christ.
Any failure you encounter in life is not caused by witch and wizards, it is caused by you not learning and understanding

2 Likes

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 2:16pm On Dec 29, 2017
paxonel:
Witches and wizards do not exist in the realm of christianity, What exist is Christ.
Any failure you encounter in life is not caused by witch and wizards, it is caused by you not learning and understanding

You are absolutely correct.

1 Like

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by enilove(m): 6:08pm On Dec 29, 2017
JesusSonOfGod:


To answer your question, true deliverance is believing that Jesus Christ died for me on the cross. He shed his blood so my sins will be forgiven. It is knowing that I died with Him in baptism and was raised with Him and that he has given me a new life and has disconnected me from my old foundation which is linked down to my father, my father's father down to Adam.

Since Jesus is the 2nd Adam and since he gave me a new life, He didn't leave me empty, He gave me His Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Sonship, which has made me a joint heir with Jesus and now God Almighty is my father. It is knowing that I am now linked to the 2nd Adam(Jesus Christ) and no more the first Adam which the link is from my father down to him.

So therefore, generational curses has nothing to do with the new me, yes it had something to do with the old me when I was not redeemed, when I was still connected to the first Adam and because that first me died with Jesus during baptism by emersion and was raised a new person of which I am now a joint heir with Jesus and now I am the son of God. God is my new family. I no longer have anything to do with generational curses because the enemy no longer has the legal right on the new me, he had the legal right to use it against the old me, but now the old me is dead. I am a new creature and a brand new. Even when the effects of the curses seem to manifest on the new me, I let the devil know he has lost the legal right and I resist him by faith and he flees. I am now a winner!

I just hope you understand this. But will you?

What then is the need for prayers?
Why do we wrestle?

Ephesians 6:12 KJV
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places .

Because you are born again, just don't pray , Jesus has worn the battles for you.

1 Like

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by enilove(m): 6:12pm On Dec 29, 2017
paxonel:
Witches and wizards do not exist in the realm of christianity, What exist is Christ.
Any failure you encounter in life is not caused by witch and wizards, it is caused by you not learning and understanding

what then is the need for this scripture ?
Ephesians 6:12 KJV
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places .

1 Like

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by enilove(m): 6:22pm On Dec 29, 2017
Ferisidowu:
I don't know where Nigerian Christians saw their own deliverance O...

they be shouting enemies die.... when Christ said go and preach....

Go and preach and don't pray?

1 Thessalonians 5:17 KJV
Pray without ceasing.

1 Like

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by bloodofthelamb(m): 6:53pm On Dec 29, 2017
JesusSonOfGod:
Ignorance is when you are born again and you have the Holy Spirit living in you, but you still think you need deliverance.

The deliverance you need is the knowledge of the word of God, understanding the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ. Feed on His word. Feed on the word of God frequently and you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

2 Corinthians 5 :17, Hosea 4:6, John 8:32.....

My people perish and are enslaved because they lack knowledge-Hosea 4:6.

Psalm 82:5 CEV- None of you know or understand a thing. You live in darkness, while the foundations of the earth tremble.

Lack of knowledge and understanding is able to keep you in total darkness and slavery, even though you have been made free. I stand with the op.

3 Likes 1 Share

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 8:43pm On Dec 29, 2017
enilove:


what then is the need for this scripture ?
Ephesians 6:12 KJV
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places .

As a born again Christian, you pray without ceasing. I didn't say you should not pray, but it's what you are praying about that am talking about. Some prayers will even take the person back into captivity.

As a born again, it doesn't mean attacks won't come, they will come, but counter with your prayers. But not praying against generational curses... that does not have power over you anymore. This kind of prayer empowers the enemy even more, because he takes advantage of the person's ignorance.

As a born again, you have enemies and you defeat them through prayers. For example, when you want to fall sick, you pray "I am the redeemed of the Lord, my body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, therefore sickness is not permitted. By the stripes of my Lord Jesus Christ I am healed in Jesus Christ Name".

This prayer means, you already know the price has been paid and you have authority and victory already. You do more of decreeing. You claim your healing by faith through prayer.

1 Like 1 Share

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 8:51pm On Dec 29, 2017
enilove:


Go and preach and don't pray?

1 Thessalonians 5:17 KJV
Pray without ceasing.

Prayers like, prayer against generational curses, foundation, from place of birth, deliverance from plancentha.... They take you back to captivity and you start struggling again to come out.

When the Israelites left Egypt, they did not go back for anything. They kept moving, so why go back to slavery? Why do you go back to Egypt?
Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by Nobody: 8:51pm On Dec 29, 2017
enilove:

Go and preach and don't pray?
1 Thessalonians 5:17 KJV Pray without ceasing.
how does that relate to enemies die

2 Likes

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 8:54pm On Dec 29, 2017
Ferisidowu:


how does that relate to enemies die

When you ask them, they start quoting "suffer not the witch to live" or even ".. the kingdom of God suffereth violent and the violent taketh it by force".

That 'die by fire ' prayer is not Christianity. That's advanced Judaism!

1 Like

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by MightySparrow: 3:27am On Dec 30, 2017
Hmmmmmmm

1 Like

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by PROPHETmichael: 9:36am On Dec 30, 2017
If someone like Peter, spirit filled, tongue talking, demon chaser, having spent time with Christ and dwells in his presence day and night could be possessed by Satan, how much more you? One day when Satan entered him right in front of Jesus, Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! Mark 1:23

A woman called a daughter of Abraham was bound with a spirit of infirmity for eighteen years. "Ought not this woman,being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath day?" (Luke 13:11-16).

Paul reproves the Corinthian Christians for receiving another spirit than the Spirit they had previously received (II Cor. 11:4).


That is how in a church conference in Lagos about 4 years ago, two ministers were scheduled to preach and one of them was more like a motivational speaker while the guest preacher was a deliverance pastor. When the first preacher (motivational speaker) came he was saying stuffs like..."glory to God, glory to God, glory to God (That God sounded like Gad), we are a new creation, glory to "Gad"! witches are not real, they don't exist, glory to "Gad"; you are more than witchcraft hallelujah hallelujah....The Greek work for power is Zoe, glory to God!!!.....and everyone was jumping and shouting preach pastor etc.

Well, he finished preaching.....here comes the 2nd preacher and the first thing he said was "somebody will die now" and the whole church went upside down, what a contrast? You can literally read their mind that they are saying where did they bring this bush man from? Anyway, the man told ushers to stand by the door because there are witches there and this is where it gets interesting because the first preacher, the "zoe" pastor got angry and walked out of the church to chill in his car till the "village pastor" round up.

Within a matter of second, the power of God hit the church and a woman began to bounce like a football, started confessing saying "beg my son, i am the one that locked the wife's womb...pls beg my son because i am the one that uses his wife's face to appear in his dream.." Now, the "zoe" pastor who went outside was hearing confessions from the speaker and he tiptoed to the church to see who was confessing and lo and behold, it was his mother.

When it was time for judgement prayer, the pastor told the congregation to command them to die and the zoe pastor faced his mother and said die, die die and the deliverance pastor told him no pastor, the greek word for die is ...(zoe pastor interrupted him and said no prophet, forget greek word, mama die, die, die).

1 Like

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by PROPHETmichael: 9:40am On Dec 30, 2017
enilove:


Because you are born again, just don't pray , Jesus has worn the battles for you.

Don't mind him, let him continue to lived on self deception.
Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by paxonel(m): 9:47am On Dec 30, 2017
enilove:


what then is the need for this scripture ?
Ephesians 6:12 KJV
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places .
When you read, try to understand the event at that time which led to Paul writing this letter to the church.

It was like at that time, christians were persecuted by non christians especially the Jews. And these Jews were mere humans(what is known as flesh and blood) and not spirits.
That's why Paul wrote to christians saying we wrestle not against flesh and blood (humans).
Because, while early christians and Paul were preaching to promote christianity these Jews were promoting their religion(Judaism) against christianity,they even went as far as persecuting and killing christians, That was the wrestling Paul was talking about, not wrestling against witches and wizards.
Principalities and powers there refers the the ruling religion as at that time which was Judaism (religion of the Jews) because that religion was powerful and authoritative or a major principality(due to how God powerfully fought for the Jews in the past) and was widely practiced. Because Judaism was that powerful, they began to rule the world in darkness(deception). Hence, Jesus even fought the Jews before he was eventually crucified.
And few disciples of Jesus practiced christianity as at that time, so they were less powerful.
So, principalities, powers, rulers of darkness do not necessarily mean witches and wizards as put by Africans today.

The problem about Africans today is that we are too diabolical, so when we read scriptures like these, all we see is diabolism and fear.
Hence we keep shouting die by fire for nothing.
Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 10:11am On Dec 30, 2017
PROPHETmichael:
If someone like Peter, spirit filled, tongue talking, demon chaser, having spent time with Christ and dwells in his presence day and night could be possessed by Satan, how much more you? One day when Satan entered him right in front of Jesus, Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! Mark 1:23

A woman called a daughter of Abraham was bound with a spirit of infirmity for eighteen years. "Ought not this woman,being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath day?" (Luke 13:11-16).

Paul reproves the Corinthian Christians for receiving another spirit than the Spirit they had previously received (II Cor. 11:4).


That is how in a church conference in Lagos about 4 years ago, two ministers were scheduled to preach and one of them was more like a motivational speaker while the guest preacher was a deliverance pastor. When the first preacher (motivational speaker) came he was saying stuffs like..."glory to God, glory to God, glory to God (That God sounded like Gad), we are a new creation, glory to "Gad"! witches are not real, they don't exist, glory to "Gad"; you are more than witchcraft hallelujah hallelujah....The Greek work for power is Zoe, glory to God!!!.....and everyone was jumping and shouting preach pastor etc.

Well, he finished preaching.....here comes the 2nd preacher and the first thing he said was "somebody will die now" and the whole church went upside down, what a contrast? You can literally read their mind that they are saying where did they bring this bush man from? Anyway, the man told ushers to stand by the door because there are witches there and this is where it gets interesting because the first preacher, the "zoe" pastor got angry and walked out of the church to chill in his car till the "village pastor" round up.

Within a matter of second, the power of God hit the church and a woman began to bounce like a football, started confessing saying "beg my son, i am the one that locked the wife's womb...pls beg my son because i am the one that uses his wife's face to appear in his dream.." Now, the "zoe" pastor who went outside was hearing confession from the speaker and he tiptoed to the church to see who was confessing and lo and behold, it was his mother.

When it was time for judgement prayer, the pastor told the congregation to command them to die and the zoe pastor faced his mother and said die, die die and the deliverance pastor told him no pastor, the greek word for die is ...(zoe pastor interrupt him and said no prophet, forget greek word, mama die, die, die).


There's nothing Satan will not do to attack your faith and make you believe contrary to what the word of God says. First, when we say witches do not exist for those in Christ, it means they no longer have power over the person.

The Bible says, that same power that raised our Lord Jesus Christ from the dead lives in us. This means same power that defeated Satan and his agents and made public show of them on the cross lives in us. If you believe the truth the Bible says, then how can you believe witches have power over you.

I am not saying you are lying oh, it's true things like this happen, but I am saying that kind of prayer is not biblical. Why not debate with scriptures, then I will back mine with more scriptures.

The so called 'motivational speaker ' is actually a motivational speaker and does not know who he is in the Lord. Even if Pastor Adeboye meets such Pastors, they will still tell him the curses from his father's house is affecting him, that he would have gone farther than where he is. But Pastor Adeboye knowing who he is will rebuke that evil prophesy, because it's inspired by the devil. It is saying contrary to what the word of God already says about His Redeemed.

It might be true that the 'motivational speaker's' mum did some evil against the son, but if the son is actually a born again and is not ignorant of who he is as a child of God, those things the mother did won't affect him. If he actually is a true son of God, he will rebuke it, pray for the mother and cast out the evil spirit that possessed her. Treat her with love even more, not pray die die die.

My dear, if Stephen prayed for the death of those that stoned him to death and God answered that prayer, do you know that Saul who later became Paul would have died and not have the chance to repent and declare the works of God.

Even those people you pray for to die are not even the evil themselves, it's the evil spirit that possessed them. What you do as a Christian is cast it out. Note, evil spirits do not die! Read the book of Acts, you will find where the disciples of Jesus met with alot of demon possessed people, even a sorcerer, they didn't command them to die, they casted the demons out.

This is why you will never find in the Bible where Jesus prayed for anyone to die, even His disciples never prayed such prayers, instead he casted out the demons and warned them not to come back. At least I know we are Christians, which means people who behave like Christ. His followers.

Please, open your eyes and read the word of God with the help of the Holy Spirit, you will understand more. Where people are expecting the devil to attack is not even where the main attack is coming from, the main attack is on people's faith. The devil is doing everything to make people stay ignorant because ignorance is like an open door to torment children of God.

Please, show me scriptures to back such prayers up.

2 Likes

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 10:24am On Dec 30, 2017
PROPHETmichael:


Don't mind him, let him continue to lived on self deception.


Please, back your claims up with scriptures. Back your 'die by fire' prayer up with scriptures.

Incase you don't know, the second covenant which is also called the new covenant, which we as Christians are under, did not start when Jesus came, it started when His blood was shed. The blood of Jesus sealed it.

Meanwhile, I am waiting for the scriptures.
Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by PROPHETmichael: 10:25am On Dec 30, 2017
JesusSonOfGod:



There's nothing Satan will not do to attack your faith and make you believe contrary to what the word of God says. First, when we mean witches do not exist for those in Christ, it means they no longer have power over the person.

The Bible says, that same power that raised our Lord Jesus Christ from the dead lives in us. This means same power that defeated Satan and his agents and made public show of them on the cross lives in us. If you believe the truth the Bible says, then how can you believe witches have power over you.

I am not saying you are lying oh, it's true things like this happens, but I am saying that kind of prayer is not biblical. Why not debate with scriptures, then I will back mine with more scriptures.

The so called 'motivational speaker ' is actually a motivational speaker and does not know who he is in the Lord. Even if Pastor Adeboye meets such Pastors, they will still tell him the curses from his father's house is affecting him, that he would have gone farther than where he is. But Pastor Adeboye knowing who he is will rebuke that evil prophesy, because it's inspired by the devil. It is saying contrary to what the word of God already says about His Redeemed.

It might be true that the 'motivational speaker's' mum did some evil against the son, but if the son is actually a born again and is not ignorant of who he is as a child of God, those things the mother did won't affect him. If he actually is a true son of God, he will rebuke it, pray for the mother and cast out the evil spirit that possessed her. Treat her with love even more, not pray die die die.

My dear, if Stephen prayed for the death of those that stoned him to death and God answered that prayer, do you know that Saul who later became Paul would have died and not have the chance to repent and declare the works of God.

Even those people you pray for to die are not even the evil themselves, it's the evil spirit that possessed them. What you do as a Christian is cast it out. Note, evil spirits do not die! Read the book of Acts, you will find where the disciplines of Jesus met with alot of demon possessed people, even a sorcerer, they didn't command them to die, they casted the demons out.

This is why you will never find in the Bible where Jesus prayed for anyone to die, even His disciples never prayed such prayers, instead he casted out the demons and warned them not to come back. At least I know we are Christians, which means people who behave like Christ. His followers.

Please, open your eyes and read the word of God with the help of the Holy Spirit, you will understand more. Where people are expecting the devil to attack is not even where the main attack is coming from, the main attack is on people's faith. The devil is doing everything to make people stay ignorant because ignorance is like an open door to torment children of God.

Please, show me scriptures to back such prayers up.


And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. Ephesians 6:18!

Or are you more spiritual than David, a man after God's heart who prayed for his enemies to die?

A Prayer Against an Enemy

Psalm 109
1 God, I praise you.
Do not be silent.
2 Wicked people and liars have spoken against me;
they have told lies about me.
3 They have said hateful things about me
and attack me for no reason.
4 They attacked me, even though I loved them
and prayed for them.
5 I was good to them, but they repay me with evil.
I loved them, but they hate me in return.

6 They say about me, “Have an evil person work against him,
and let an accuser stand against him.
7 When he is judged, let him be found guilty,
and let even his prayers show his guilt.
8 Let his life be cut short,
and let another man replace him as leader.

9 Let his children become orphans
and his wife a widow.
10 Make his children wander around, begging for food.
Let them be forced out of the ruins in which they live.
11 Let the people to whom he owes money take everything he owns,
and let strangers steal everything he has worked for.
12 Let no one show him love
or have mercy on his orphaned children.
13 Let all his descendants die
and be forgotten by those who live after him.

14 Lord, remember how wicked his ancestors were,
and don’t let the sins of his mother be wiped out.
15 Lord, always remember their sins.
Then make people forget about them completely.

16 “He did not remember to be loving.
He hurt the poor, the needy, and those who were sad
until they were nearly dead.
17 He loved to put curses on others,
so let those same curses fall on him.
He did not like to bless others,
so do not let good things happen to him.
18 He cursed others as often as he wore clothes.
Cursing others filled his body and his life,
like drinking water and using olive oil.
19 So let curses cover him like clothes
and wrap around him like a belt.”
20 May the Lord do these things to those who accuse me,
to those who speak evil against me.

21 But you, Lord God,
be kind to me so others will know you are good.
Because your love is good, save me.
22 I am poor and helpless
and very sad.
23 I am dying like an evening shadow;
I am shaken off like a locust.
24 My knees are weak from fasting,
and I have grown thin.
25 My enemies insult me;
they look at me and shake their heads.

26 Lord my God, help me;
because you are loving, save me.
27 Then they will know that your power has done this;
they will know that you have done it, Lord.
28 They may curse me, but you bless me.
They may attack me, but they will be disgraced.
Then I, your servant, will be glad.
29 Let those who accuse me be disgraced
and covered with shame like a coat.

30 I will thank the Lord very much;
I will praise him in front of many people.
31 He defends the helpless
and saves them from those who accuse them.

1 Like 1 Share

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 10:39am On Dec 30, 2017
PROPHETmichael:



And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. Ephesians 6:18!

Or are you more spiritual than David, a man after God's heart who prayed for his enemies to die?

A Prayer Against an Enemy

Psalm 109
1 God, I praise you.
Do not be silent.
2 Wicked people and liars have spoken against me;
they have told lies about me.
3 They have said hateful things about me
and attack me for no reason.
4 They attacked me, even though I loved them
and prayed for them.
5 I was good to them, but they repay me with evil.
I loved them, but they hate me in return.

6 They say about me, “Have an evil person work against him,
and let an accuser stand against him.
7 When he is judged, let him be found guilty,
and let even his prayers show his guilt.
8 Let his life be cut short,
and let another man replace him as leader.

9 Let his children become orphans
and his wife a widow.
10 Make his children wander around, begging for food.
Let them be forced out of the ruins in which they live.
11 Let the people to whom he owes money take everything he owns,
and let strangers steal everything he has worked for.
12 Let no one show him love
or have mercy on his orphaned children.
13 Let all his descendants die
and be forgotten by those who live after him.

14 Lord, remember how wicked his ancestors were,
and don’t let the sins of his mother be wiped out.
15 Lord, always remember their sins.
Then make people forget about them completely.

16 “He did not remember to be loving.
He hurt the poor, the needy, and those who were sad
until they were nearly dead.
17 He loved to put curses on others,
so let those same curses fall on him.
He did not like to bless others,
so do not let good things happen to him.
18 He cursed others as often as he wore clothes.
Cursing others filled his body and his life,
like drinking water and using olive oil.
19 So let curses cover him like clothes
and wrap around him like a belt.”
20 May the Lord do these things to those who accuse me,
to those who speak evil against me.

21 But you, Lord God,
be kind to me so others will know you are good.
Because your love is good, save me.
22 I am poor and helpless
and very sad.
23 I am dying like an evening shadow;
I am shaken off like a locust.
24 My knees are weak from fasting,
and I have grown thin.
25 My enemies insult me;
they look at me and shake their heads.

26 Lord my God, help me;
because you are loving, save me.
27 Then they will know that your power has done this;
they will know that you have done it, Lord.
28 They may curse me, but you bless me.
They may attack me, but they will be disgraced.
Then I, your servant, will be glad.
29 Let those who accuse me be disgraced
and covered with shame like a coat.

30 I will thank the Lord very much;
I will praise him in front of many people.
31 He defends the helpless
and saves them from those who accuse them.

Now I know where your ignorance is coming from, It's so deep that I won't be able to open your eyes, but let me leave you with this, I will advise you to research on it, pray on it and meet a true spirit filled man of God to explain.

Note this now! The 2nd Covenant (The new covenant) started when Jesus died on the cross, when his blood was shed. I stated it before, but you still quoted Psalm 109, it's either you don't understand or you are not a Christian (Follower of Christ) .


Let me guess your next question "Are you saying as a Christian we will put off the old testament?".

Once that question comes, it means you need much more explanation than I thought and I won't be able to do that here. So if you don't agree with me, you can believe in what you believe in, but please keep praying for God to open your understanding. God bless you.
Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by PROPHETmichael: 10:47am On Dec 30, 2017
JesusSonOfGod:


Now I know where your ignorance is coming from, It's so deep that I won't be able to open your eyes, but let me leave you with this, I will advise you to research on it, pray on it and meet a true spirit filled man of God to explain.

Note this now! The 2nd Covenant (The new covenant started when Jesus died on the cross, when his blood was shed. I stated it before, but you still quoted Psalm 109, it's either you don't understand or you are not a Christian.


Let me guess your next question "Are you saying as a Christian we will put off the old testament?".

Once that question comes, it means you need much more explanation /teaching than I thought and I won't be able to do that here. So if you don't agree with me, you can believe in what you believe in, but please keep praying for God to open your understanding. God bless you.

I gave you the new testament also, just incase you are not satisfied with the old testament.
And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. Ephesians 6:18!

All kinds of prayer means ALL KINDS OF PRAYERS and not certain prayers. Do you know why during the time of Jesus on earth, there was no need to pray die prayer? it's because while he was on earth, there was peace in the land, Israel was no longer fighting Philistines, Ammorites, Jebusites etc it was now a battle against demons. When he left, apostles now said pray all kinds of prayers. Likewise, When he return back, there will be no need to pray die by fire prayer because peace will return on earth.
Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 10:55am On Dec 30, 2017
PROPHETmichael:


I gave you the new testament also, just incase you are not satisfied with the old testament.
And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. Ephesians 6:18!

All kinds of prayer means ALL KINDS OF PRAYERS and not certain prayers. Do you know why during the time of Jesus on earth, there was no need to pray die prayer? it's because while he was on earth, there was peace in the land, Israel was no longer fighting Philistines, Ammorites, Jebusites etc it was now a battle against demons. When he left, apostles now said pray all kinds of prayers. Likewise, When he return back, there will be no need to pray die by fire prayer because peace will return on earth.

smileyThat's funny. Thanks. Stay blessed.
Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by PROPHETmichael: 11:20am On Dec 30, 2017
JesusSonOfGod:


Lol. That's funny. Thanks. Stay blessed.

Stay blessed too my brother and always remember that the moment you become born again, you are no longer in democracy but military zone and if you are too casual, you become a casualty. To be a christian without power is to be a Jehovah witness without knowing. Life is spiritual,not everybody you see loves you. We live in a world of battle, you can never be domestic. In the kingdom of darkness, there is no militarised zone, if you stand with a civilian mentality, you will be a casualty.

In destiny, there is no democracy, you must be a militant. In this world, you don't need to look for trouble before they look for your trouble; the fact that you have glorious destiny is already an issue in the kingdom of darkness. If you remove D from Devil, it's still evil; Satan is a confused man, so you need some level of spiritual insanity to survive and finally, in this world of wickedness, it is abnormal to be normal. "Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes."

1 Like

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by Nobody: 11:34am On Dec 30, 2017
JesusSonOfGod:


smileyThat's funny. Thanks. Stay blessed.
Does spirit husband's exist.? What kinda pray should one pray for progress?
Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 12:01pm On Dec 30, 2017
NwanyiAwkaetiti:
Does spirit husband's exist.? What kinda pray should one pray for progress?


Spirit husband does not have power over a born again Christian. As a born again, they don't exist, but stay away from sin, it will open door for attacks if you sin and not repent of it, especially sexual immorality. As for prayer for progress, the scripture below might help.

Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

1 Like

Re: Ignorance Is When You Think You Need Deliverance... by JesusSonOfGod: 12:32pm On Dec 30, 2017
Jude 8-168
Yet in like manner these people also, relying on their dreams, defile the flesh, reject authority, and blaspheme the glorious ones. 9 But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.” 10 But these people blaspheme all that they do not understand, and they are destroyed by all that they, like unreasoning animals, understand instinctively.


Ephesians 4:14
As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming;

Titus 1:10-11
For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain.

Matthew 5:44
But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you!


Hebrews 13:9
Do not be carried away by varied and strange teachings; for it is good for the heart to be strengthened by grace, not by foods, through which those who were so occupied were not benefited.


1 Timothy 1:3-4
As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus so that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines, nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith.

James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and He will flee from you.


He will flee and not die because they don't die.

Galatians 1:8-9
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

2 Likes 1 Share

(1) (2) (Reply)

Why Do Christians Support Donald Trump? / Dreams About Being Naked / Benefits Of Being A Muslim Woman

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 126
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.