Pls after salvation, do not create new bondage to new converts. Pls lets understand how to give & the right pattern, else Christianity will look like bondage even after Christ's redemption.

1) First fruit is good, but what is the exact biblical patterns of giving it??

2) Where churches giving first fruit in the 1980s?

3) Those who didn't give then, are they in hell?

4) What is the meaning of "giving the sheaf of the first fruit"?

5) Must first fruit be your January salary?

Pls Jesus Christ came mainly to die for the sin of the whole world, anyone who is now redeemed should give as he proposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity, but cheerfully.

Let giving not appear as a yoke, but with love & peace.....

First fruit is good, but ask the Holy Spirit the exact way to give yours, not as your church says.. The old testament has pattern.

Pls lets enjoy Jesus in this perilous times..

Are you His servant or you are just pretending to be? If you understand what first friut is, you'd drop it easily knowing, when he multiplies it, you won't have room to store it.

godisgood200:
Are you His servant or you are just pretending to be? If you understand what first friut is, you'd drop it easily knowing, when he multiplies it, you won't have room to store it.

Enquire from the HolyGhost before you give....don't just do it...you are not holier than the HolyGhost

eberetos:
Pls after salvation, do not create new bondage to new converts. Pls lets understand how to give & the right pattern, else Christianity will look like bondage even after Christ's redemption.

1) First fruit is good, but what is the exact biblical patterns of giving it??

2) Where churches giving first fruit in the 1980s?

3) Those who didn't give then, are they in hell?

4) What is the meaning of "giving the sheaf of the first fruit"?

5) Must first fruit be your January salary?

Pls Jesus Christ came mainly to die for the sin of the whole world, anyone who is now redeemed should give as he proposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity, but cheerfully.

Let giving not appear as a yoke, but with love & peace.....

First fruit is good, but ask the Holy Spirit the exact way to give yours, not as your church says.. The old testament has pattern.

Pls lets enjoy Jesus in this perilous times..

What is First fruit?

what is it's motive?

What do you consider bondage?

If you intend to teach a principle, don't start on a wrong premise of contravcy.

You already have laid a wrong premise here. What is your motive of opening this thread? Will Christ be gloried at the end or maligned? Will it encourage the flock or cast them off? Be mindful of your actions for you will never say to the Angels, is was a joke.

God never takes from you wthout multiplying and giving it back to you.

He took from Peter, and after doing his business, He multiplied for Peter. He took from a teenager, 5 loafs of bread and 2 fish, after finishing with his business, the boy had 12 baskets to take home, if he could carry.

Jesus takes from you to multiply you, not to deminish you.

First fruits is Kingdom insurance.

Let us understand Kingdom Princilpes before dabbling into them.

Say watin happen? Who wan use the money? God directly or man? There are millions of Nigerians who don't have breakfast, some are living close to you. Some sick fellas aren't able to pay their hospital bills, assist them. Help these ones and God will bless you. This method of taxation by the church is a disgrace. And this is the reason why we have so many churches today with funny names because Bible teachings have been modified to suit personal interest.

eberetos:
Enquire from the HolyGhost before you give....don't just do it...you are not holier than the HolyGhost

You need to enquire from the Holy Ghost what He has already given in His Words?

If you were present when Jesus took away a little boy's food that him mama gave to him for lunch, what will you call Jesus? A wicked man abi?

Make una keep una mouth away from weytin una no sabi o.

Daddy Freeze disciples, make una leave us alone o, na our money we dey give our pastors o.

Giving God your first fruit is very deep. Many do not understand it as they think it is just money. Below are some of the examples of first fruit
1. First fruit can be the your money. The first profit or salary you got ( Prov 3:9)
2.As a farmer, the first fruit of your labour ( prov 3:9, Eze 44:30, Deut 18:4 , Neh 13:31 )
3. Your first born ( Exo 22:29)
Jesus was the first fruit given to humanity to redeem man ( 1 cor 15:23)
Giving to God should be done cheerfully not out of compulsion.
Is it compulsory to give God your first fruit?
No just as is not compulsory to be blessed.

Should first fruit be given to beggers
No. Giving to beggers are seeds sown and would be riped soon.

Where should I give my first fruit
The house of the lord.

How would I give when am not convinced?
Don't give because others do.Give because you have better understanding of the word. Give because you are being inspired by the holy spirit.

Shouldn't I just give to those in need?
Yes you can give to those in need but what you did isn't first fruit but seed.

So, how will I execute the contract if I give all the money as first fruit nah?

asuustrike2009:
Giving God your first fruit is very deep. Many do not understand it as they think it is just money. Below are some of the examples of first fruit
1. First fruit can be the your money. The first profit or salary you got ( Prov 3:9)
2.As a farmer, the first fruit of your labour ( prov 3:9, Eze 44:30, Deut 18:4 , Neh 13:31 )
3. Your first born ( Exo 22:29)
Jesus was the first fruit given to humanity to redeem man ( 1 cor 15:23)
Giving to God should be done cheerfully not out of compulsion.
Is it compulsory to give God your first fruit?
No just as is not compulsory to be blessed.

Should first fruit be given to beggers
No. Giving to beggers are seeds sown and would be riped soon.

Where should I give my first fruit
The house of the lord.

How would I give when am not convinced?
Don't give because others do.Give because you have better understanding of the word. Give because you are being inspired by the holy spirit.

Shouldn't I just give to those in need?
Yes you can give to those in need but what you did isn't first fruit but seed.

You made sense with this post my guy and I'll make a point from it. It's on the part where you said that you should give the first fruit in the 'house of the lord'. To the nation of Isreal at the time, this command made sense cause they had ONLY ONE FORM OF TEMPLE WORSHIP. They did not have options thus, the people KNEW the purpose of their MATERIAL offerings. But what we have today is 'house of Lords', each church denomination with a different idea, objective and purpose. So, what is the purpose of the offering in the church today?

Fruit kor....vegetable nii.

pleasureosondu:

You made sense with this post my guy and I'll make a point from it. It's on the part where you said that you should give the first fruit in the 'house of the lord'. To the nation of Isreal at the time, this command made sense cause they had ONLY ONE FORM OF TEMPLE WORSHIP. They did not have options thus, the people KNEW the purpose of their MATERIAL offerings. But what we have today is 'house of Lords', each church denomination with a different idea, objective and purpose. So, what is the purpose of the offering in the church today?

Many churches had derailed in their messages today. Just as the lord left Saul so is it with many churches

asuustrike2009:

Many churches had derailed in their messages today. Just as the lord left Saul so is it with many churches

Thus, the question: What's the essence of giving in a church that promotes false teachings to suit it's interests? What's even more annoying is that most Christians based their judgments on sentiments, not on facts: on emotions and not on reality. Pastors live and maintain very expensive lifestyles, own million dollar properties while their very own members are languishing in poverty. Was that what Christ did while on earth?

pleasureosondu:

Thus, the question: What's the essence of giving in a church that promotes false teachings to suit it's interests? What's even more annoying is that most Christians based their judgments on sentiments, not on facts: on emotions and not on reality. Pastors live and maintain very expensive lifestyles, own million dollar properties while their very own members are languishing in poverty. Was that what Christ did while on earth?

No. But again what you see those pastors do had being revealed in the Bible in 2 Peter 2:3.
What does the Bible advocate? That we should beware of these prophets because many are already on this earth. So no matter what you and I say these things must happen. Please and please be mindful of prophets that pretend to help humanity. Many of them are fake.

pleasureosondu:
Say watin happen? Who wan use the money? God directly or man? There are millions of Nigerians who don't have breakfast, some are living close to you. Some sick fellas aren't able to pay their hospital bills, assist them. Help these ones and God will bless you. This method of taxation by the church is a disgrace. And this is the reason why we have so many churches today with funny names because Bible teachings have been modified to suit personal interest.

Unbelievers talking nonsense from their mouths. Next, tell us to stop going to Church.

asuustrike2009:
Giving God your first fruit is very deep. Many do not understand it as they think it is just money. Below are some of the examples of first fruit
1. First fruit can be the your money. The first profit or salary you got ( Prov 3:9)
2.As a farmer, the first fruit of your labour ( prov 3:9, Eze 44:30, Deut 18:4 , Neh 13:31 )
3. Your first born ( Exo 22:29)
Jesus was the first fruit given to humanity to redeem man ( 1 cor 15:23)
Giving to God should be done cheerfully not out of compulsion.
Is it compulsory to give God your first fruit?
No just as is not compulsory to be blessed.

Should first fruit be given to beggers
No. Giving to beggers are seeds sown and would be riped soon.

Where should I give my first fruit
The house of the lord.

How would I give when am not convinced?
Don't give because others do.Give because you have better understanding of the word. Give because you are being inspired by the holy spirit.

Shouldn't I just give to those in need?
Yes you can give to those in need but what you did isn't first fruit but seed.

Don't mind the goats trying to dictates for the Sheep.

First fruits is Kingdom insurance.

BROS ABEG KINDLY EXPATIATE ON THIS.WHAT IS THE BIBLICAL BASIS FOR THIS ASSERTION? SO THOSE WHO DONT PAY FIRST FRUITS ARE NOT UNDER THIS DIVINE INSURANCE?

godisgood200:

Unbelievers talking nonsense from their mouths. Next, tell us to stop going to Church.

Quote me but when you've grown up. When you've seen that religion has done more harm than good to mankind. Ask yourself, What has the so-called big churches and pastors contributed to the Nigerian society? And even when they get involved in providing social amenities for people, it is aimed for the rich and famous, forgetting that it's people's First FRIUT. Pastors made us poor even before buhari became president.

pleasureosondu:

You made sense with this post my guy and I'll make a point from it. It's on the part where you said that you should give the first fruit in the 'house of the lord'. To the nation of Isreal at the time, this command made sense cause they had ONLY ONE FORM OF TEMPLE WORSHIP. They did not have options thus, the people KNEW the purpose of their MATERIAL offerings. But what we have today is 'house of Lords', each church denomination with a different idea, objective and purpose. So, what is the purpose of the offering in the church today?

I don't even no y many eyes are still close till now ,ask urself the motive behind the increments of our church from 1 denomination to 27000 registered and many unregistered(unknown) denomination, and u will agree with me our nation is still full of ungodly deeds that cannot be listed ,with preaching of salvation been replaced with prosperity sermon as a result of the condition of the economy , upon which the sermon does not have any significance effect because each year the economy appear more retrogressive but the thousand of the denomination are progressing by opening more and more branches, building headquarters buying private jets building private universities but the promise of betterment to u and the nation has not been fulfilled till now only they keep asking u to continue to pay tithe ,first fruit, seed offering, special offering, generous donation etc and keep on hoping 4 the return but their children cellibrate graduation in Oxford university ,they own one of the homes and series of car even jets, but u are there dreaming of a better tomorrow as predicted or promised by ur pastors

If u ar one of the people under the illusion above, sorry to say u are mentally robbed

asuustrike2009:

No. But again what you see those pastors do had being revealed in the Bible in 2 Peter 2:3.
What does the Bible advocate? That we should beware of these prophets because many are already on this earth. So no matter what you and I say these things must happen. Please and please be mindful of prophets that pretend to help humanity. Many of them are fake.

My brother I don't want to generalized but pls tell me two pastor in this nation who can be seen as Christ like

Goodness4525:
My brother I don't want to generalized but pls tell me two pastor in this nation who can be seen as Christ like

There is just one pastor I can vouch for. His name his pastor w.f Kumuyi. I do listen to some of his messages as they are inspiring. He is contended with what he has and he preaches the undiluted word of God.

asuustrike2009:

There is just one pastor I can vouch for. His name his pastor w.f Kumuyi. I do listen to some of his messages as they are inspiring. He is contended with what he has and he preaches the undiluted word of God.

Hypocrites asking u to pray against unseen relative-enemies while welcoming the real enemy with open arm and praises when they comes 4 thanksgiving cos they no of their monetary value to their biz regardless of their hazard effect on the nation

If Freeze can buy 2 bottles of shayo for N150k why cant I pay 10Mill to my Church

Goodness4525:
Hypocrites asking u to pray against unseen relative-enemies while welcoming the real enemy with open arm and praises when they comes 4 thanksgiving cos they no of their monetary value to their biz regardless of their hazard effect on the nation

Study your Bible to get better understanding

asuustrike2009:

Study your Bible to get better understanding

Mr understanding u tell me what I don't no

Goodness4525:
Mr understanding u tell me what I don't no

If you don't study you can't understand. Secondly your mind isn't open from your last statement

asuustrike2009:

If you don't study you can't understand. Secondly your mind isn't open from your last statement

Even ur mentols don't no the bible ,only acquitted to the verses they use to exploit gullible like u ,that us no one of them can defend their course on tithing till date, i no people of ur type hardly have chance of knowing reality,cos u are already in a state of mental slavery and pls stop guoting me cos I ain't in ur category of people

Goodness4525:
Even ur mentols don't no the bible ,only acquitted to the verses they use to exploit gullible like u ,that us no one of them can defend their course on tithing till date, i no people of ur type hardly have chance of knowing reality,cos u are already in a state of mental slavery and pls stop guoting me cos I ain't in ur category of people

Are you OK at all?. The Bible has being clear on tithing. If you are not comfortable with it no problem but don't confuse people. Don't force people to believe your idea

pleasureosondu:
Say watin happen? Who wan use the money? God directly or man? There are millions of Nigerians who don't have breakfast, some are living close to you. Some sick fellas aren't able to pay their hospital bills, assist them. Help these ones and God will bless you. This method of taxation by the church is a disgrace. And this is the reason why we have so many churches today with funny names because Bible teachings have been modified to suit personal interest.

Proverbs 19:17 ... He who gives to the poor lends to God