You’re tragically naive. No point debating with you any further.

I’ll ask you one last time still. Is akpurakpu egusi the Yoruba style Igbos adapted in the recent past?

You’ve had zilch to say for that specifically up till now. It’s you who’s choosing to remain willfully ignorant and you know that deep down. At least with other posters of your kind I get some sort of mutual acknowledgment and intelligent debate for the most part. You on the other hand gloss over every other point but still claim to have good counter-arguments.

Probz:
You’re tragically naive. No point debating with you any further.

I’ll ask you one last time still. Is akpurakpu egusi the Yoruba style Igbos adapted in the recent past?

Lol. No one knows what Akpurakpu is. People only know what Egusi is. Egusi is as traditional as Eko in Yorubaland.

You have no knowledge of what you talk about abeg. It’s so obvious. Ogbono and Peppersoup is Niger-Delta food but you are claiming it. Anyway I have things to do with my time today.

aljharem:
So many false statement here. Alaia and moi moi are borrowed words from Yoruba. Until the amalgamation of Nigeria there was nothing like bean in igbo land. The demography does not favour such!!!!. So how did they get food made from beans. Haha!!!!!

You guys are clown...in Igbo land we have names of various beans from akidi to ages to fiofio....what's wrong with your stupidity

fatiaforreal:
Igbo is sub-Yoruba race. Take it or leave it, that's the truth!

Stop attaching yourself to Igbo...Igbo have nothing absolutely nothing in common with Yoruba pls

baby124:

Lol. No one knows what Akpurakpu is. People only know what Egusi is. Egusi is as traditional as Eko in Yorubaland.

You have no knowledge of what you talk about abeg. It’s so obvious. Ogbono and Peppersoup is Niger-Delta food but you are claiming it. Anyway I have things to do with my time today.

That’s one of the more traditional Igbo ways of cooking egusi. Of course you don’t know what it is because you know next to nothing about Igbo food. Clearly.

Pepper soup and nsala soup are as Igbotic as food comes. Shared by other regions or not.

Like I said you’re tragically naive and ignorant. 143 people wouldn’t have liked my first post about beans in Igboland if I had no knowledge at all of what I was talking about. Two other people wouldn’t have said to you what I’m saying if you were a tenth as knowledgeable as you pretend on here. The fact that you had the guts to actually question whether yam’s an Igbo staple shows up your own ignorance more than my alleged lack of knowledge. Which only you’ve claimed on this thread thus far. Not to mention your lack of any real rebuttal or valid counter-arguments more elaborate than claiming Igbos stole egusi and pepper soup from other parts. You’re starting to sound like a right clown.

Deep down you know what I’m saying.

Probz:


That’s one of the more traditional Igbo wats of cooking egusi. Of course you don’t know what it is because you know next to nothing about Igbo food. Clearly.

Pepper soup and nsala soup are as Igbotic as food comes. Shared by other regions or not.

Like I said you’re tragically naive and ignorant. 143 people wouldn’t have liked my first post about beans in Igboland if I had no knowledge at all of what I was talking about. Two other people wouldn’t have said to you what I’m saying if you were a tenth as knowledgeable as you pretend on here. The fact that you had the guts to actually question whether yam’s an Igbo staple shows up your own ignorance more than my alleged lack of knowledge. Which only you’ve claimed on this thread thus far. Not to mention your lack of any real rebuttal or valid counter-arguments more elaborate than claiming Igbos stole egusi and pepper soup from other parts. You’re starting to sound like a right clown.

Deep down you know what I’m saying.

No one questioned yam my dear. But you tried to say Igbos own yam. Which is not true. Yoruba’s for centuries have ingeniously processed yam to create a variety of foods. Which shows ownership of the food crop. It’s our main source of carbohydrate and cassava (Gaari) which we soak or eat as Eba. Other’s like Igbos and Deltans eat yam and cassava as regular pounded yam and cassava as Akpu or starch. The swallows are much more limited. You need to look at food processing to understand the mastery of food. Also, the Yoruba yam is different in taste and texture.

baby124:

No one questioned yam my dear. But you tried to say Igbos own yam. Which is not true. Yoruba’s for centuries have ingeniously processed yam to create a variety of foods. Which shows ownership of the food crop. It’s our main source of carbohydrate and cassava (Gaari) which we soak or eat as Eba. Other’s like Igbos and Deltans eat yam and cassava as regular pounded yam and cassava as Akpu or starch. The swallows are much more limited. You need to look at food processing to understand the mastery of food. Also, the Yoruba yam is different in taste and texture.

You make me wonder how much you know about Igbo food in the first place.

Men harvesting yam’s a well-known element of Igbo agriculture and tradition. Not to mention that yam as a crop’s pretty widespread all over the tropics. What you’re doing is akin one tribe laying claim to plantain simply because we’ve all heard of dodo.

So many uneccesary arguments derailed the thread!

Nigerians of various tribes were taken to Jamaica hence the use of Igbo and Yoruba words there. They're now Jamaicans anyway irrespective of their origins.

Shared words are common in our languages in Nigeria. It's not a big deal. Most tribes have their own names for things which may appear more predominant in other areas. For instance Ogbono is known as Apon in Yorubaland. Certainly it's not as widely eaten as it is in Igboland so many (especially in the urban areas) may not know. There are vegetables in the Yoruba hinterland which are hardly known in Lagos too.

delpee:
So many uneccesary arguments derailed the thread!

Nigerians of various tribes were taken to Jamaica hence the use of Igbo and Yoruba words there. They're now Jamaicans anyway irrespective of their origins.

Shared words are common in our languages in Nigeria. It's not a big deal. Most tribes have their own names for things which may appear more predominant in other areas. For instance Ogbono is known as Apon in Yorubaland. Certainly it's not as widely eaten as it is in Igboland so many (especially in the urban areas) may not know. There are vegetables in the Yoruba hinterland which are hardly known in Lagos too.

Say it louder for her. Someone who can’t tell the difference between scientific name and Igbo name or at least admit that Igbo and Yoruba share words and foods in common.

IkpuMmadu:


You guys are clown...in Igbo land we have names of various beans from akidi to ages to fiofio....what's wrong with your stupidity

You dey mind am?

maclatunji:


Sorry you are hurt, but facts cannot be twisted. The truth is a large portion of people sold into slavery in pre-Independence Nigeria were Igbos, it was not really fellow Igbos doing this but people with superior civilizations finding it easy to overrun the largely scattered Igbo villages that never found the ability to form a state of their own.

Keep flattering yourself.
Which superior civilization?
Many Igbo slaves were captured by fellow Ibos and sold to slavery through intra-ethnic wars.
That was why the long juju of Arochukwu was a point of no return through which many were shipped out.
The late Legendary musician, popularly referred to as 'Black Moses' Isaac Hayes, admitted that his ancestors passed through the long juju of Arochukwu on their way to slavery in the USA.

baby124:

No one questioned yam my dear. But you tried to say Igbos own yam. Which is not true. Yoruba’s for centuries have ingeniously processed yam to create a variety of foods. Which shows ownership of the food crop. It’s our main source of carbohydrate and cassava (Gaari) which we soak or eat as Eba. Other’s like Igbos and Deltans eat yam and cassava as regular pounded yam and cassava as Akpu or starch. The swallows are much more limited. You need to look at food processing to understand the mastery of food. Also, the Yoruba yam is different in taste and texture.

Yams originated in Africa, the Carribeans and in Asia. Check Google for it's origins.
The above shows it's ownership can not be attributed to a single ethnic group or people.

Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba have never met seen or heard of one another until the white man brought them together in Nigeria from Egypt and Israel, the newly discovered land.

But the Jamaicans say they are Ethiopians and El Salasie is their God.

Another thread claimed YAM is a foreign food introduced by Portuguese.

If you are looking for the most ignorant people denying one another to the village level, come to Nigeria.

Most of the informed Nigerians watch and laugh. Some even join out of mischief or for the fun of it.

Probz:


The only thing that’s spread is the word egusi itself. Egusi’s been in Igboland since time immemorial. Especially in Anambra State.

In Awka we called it enini; and I only found out about this recently. We were at a meeting of Awka people in the city where I live, and one elderly man mentioned 'enini' and asked us, the younger people, if we knew what it meant. Not surprisingly, none of us knew. The fact that many older words are rapidly disappearing from our languages/dialects and making room for newer ones is something that is already well-known.

AjaanaOka:


In Awka we called it enini; and I only found out about this recently. We were at a meeting of Awka people in the city where I live, and one elderly man mentioned 'enini' and asked us, the younger people, if we knew what it meant. Not surprisingly, none of us knew. The fact that many older words are rapidly disappearing from our languages/dialects and making room for newer ones is something that is already well-known.

Radoillo agu nkwo! O tegokwa. Where have you been?

RedboneSmith:
'Imu oso' is not a Jamaican patois expression. The post where you got this from misinterpreted the source material.

'Akara' is also not Igbo. It is Yoruba.

Other Igbo words in Jamaican Patois that could have been added are:

Attoo (chewing stick) from Igbo 'atu' and chinch/chink (bedbug) from Igbo 'chinchi.'

Any idea about the shared roots between Igbo and Yoruba as far as akara, egusi and moin-moin/mai-mai go RedboneSmith?

Guyman02:
Wah gwaan bredrin, everyting ire ?

Ever heard the word “red ibo ” in Jamaica? Your suspicion is true, “red ibo” was used to refer to the Igbo slaves in Jamaica because of their light skin .
The land of Jamaica witnessed the influx of the Igbo race between 1790 and 1809 during the transatlantic slave trade .
The modern Igbo race dwelt in the Bight of Biafra in Nigeria . It was from here that the Igbos who were kidnapped and sold as slaves by the Europeans were taken to work on plantations .
During this period, the Igbos , due to their inability to speak the language , introduced some of their words which have now become infused in the Jamaican Patois .
Some of these words include:
Unu– You people
Ima oso (Jamaica) Ima osu (Igbo) - to hiss by sucking your teeth
Akara (Jamaica) Akàrà ( Igbo)– bean cake
Soso (Jamaica) Sọsọ (Igbo ) - only

Jamaica’s historical culture cannot be mentioned without the influence of the Igbo’s. The Igbo ’s influenced the culture, music , the pouring of libation , the “ ibo” style, idioms and way of life of the Jamaicans . Their yam festival 'the Jonkonnu' was introduced by the Igbos. There is a town allegedly named after them , the Ibu Town .

The Jamaicans are akin to the ways of the Igbos such that it is not uncommon to see Jamaicans watch Igbo Nollywood movies . Some of their rural areas resemble the Igbo ’s in Eastern Nigeria.
Known for their pride, the Igbos are said to have unwritten rules that even the slave owners were made to abide by. Out of this people came individuals who left a mark in that period. A popular example is author, Olaudah Equiano, who was very instrumental in maintaining law and order among the Igbos in Jamaica during the 1776 Mosquito Shore Scheme. He is also credited as being one of the campaigners of the abolition of slave trade (Google celebrated his 272 birthday last year).

The Igbos were also popular for committing suicides to go back to their homeland. This suicide was what made most slave traders skeptical of having them as slaves.
When they could no longer bear the slavery, 250 Igbo men conspired to kill every white man in the land. Although they failed, their song for freedom cannot be forgotten:

Oh me good friend , Mr Wilberforce, make we free!
God Almighty thank ye ! God Almighty thank ye!
God Almighty, make we free !
Buckra in this country no make we free:
What Negro for to do ? What Negro for to do?
Take force by force! Take force by force!
ALL
To be sure! to be sure! to be sure!

https://m.guardian.ng/life/a-brief-profile-of-the-igbo-people-of-jamaica/
BY NJIDEKA AGBO

Pix: Olaudah -Equiano . Photo credit : Daily Mail

Don’t know what the 9ja’s , Sierra Leonean Krio’s and the Awku in Gambia, Belizean, T&T and some of the S&C American have in common when it comes to the way they talk …. You can even find them in Cameroun/ Gabon/ Equatorial Guinea.

One kind of English like that !!!

RedboneSmith:


One of those shared words. Around Anambra it is 'soso', too. In much of Imo it is 'naani'.

even some parts of Ebonyi state use sonso as only

Ohaozara people, ’though (speaking of Ebonyi-anites). Hian, still. Double-hian. Very aggressive.

I heard they even got they own town there eboe town

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