I watched an episode of the Tyra Banks show where this 15 year old boy was video taped during his exorcism (posted below). His unwanted demonic lifestyle? His homosexuality. After his exorcism, he joined Tyra to discuss his "new heterosexual life" however his mannerism suggested to me that his "demons" were not a thing of the past.  I do believe in inner demons but somethings make me wonder/ question if we as humans are being too judgmental. Take a look.

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I feel bad for the boy. I dont think God loves him any less regardless of how human beings feel. 
What are your opinions? Do you believe it is a sin? Did the exorcism work to you?

I think its simply unnatural.

Much as doing a squirell might be said to be unnatural.

It could also be physiological or psycological.

Sad, whichever way.

To speak like a Christian fundamentalist ( I mean in line with the fundamentals of Christian teachings), yes, its demonic. If God can be so enraged by its practice as to wipe out a whole town, then it can be nothing less than demonic.

Then, to speak like an objective person, I think its just unnatural.

Few comments.

1. Dude is brave for going in front of the world and talking about this.
2. I don't think these kinds of issues of "demon possession" should be discussed on a national tv show or that it should've been allowed to be taped/recorded.
3. Dude is only 16 I woulda guessed him to be at least 27.

MzDarkSkin:

I feel bad for the boy. I dont think God loves him any less regardless of how human beings feel. 
What are your opinions? Do you believe it is a sin? Did the exorcism work to you?

God loves him yes . . . but God hates sin with a vengeance. God expressly regards homosexuality as a sin.

^^^ He also regards lying as a sin.

And arrogance - your own weakness David.

So who's judging now?

Deep Sight:

^^^ He also regards lying as a sin.

And arrogance - your own weakness David.

So who's judging now?

telling you that moralists who think the sacrifice on the cross is a waste of time but want to be in heaven anyway are simply deluding themselves isnt arrogance or judging.

Deep Sight:

I think its simply unnatural.

Much as doing a squirell might be said to be unnatural.

It could also be physiological or psycological.

Sad, whichever way.

I clearly remember you saying goats were sexy! What wrong did squirrels do you? BTW, homosexuality is unnatural. Demonic might be too strong a word but assuredly unnatural

O come on, Commander.

That was just a sarcastic joke from me!

nuclearboy:

I clearly remember you saying goats were sexy! What wrong did squirrels do you? BTW, homosexuality is unnatural. Demonic might be too strong a word but assuredly unnatural

I love this guy!  

Chei, commander you are a comic whalahi

Everything in Life that God Created has an Order, a perfect order and natural. Homosexualism is just abnormal and since man is involved, his mind has accepted that sexual state. That mind is a product of the nether world, ruled by demons. Homosexuality is demonic because it is against God's perfect order of life more like a rebellion against God.

Maybe we should define demonic or demons for that matter first before terming homosexuality to be one.
Abi deepsight?

if God destroyed (into extinction without trace) an entire city with hail stones of fire and sulfur (i.e rained hell on the city) for the sin of sexual perversion and homosexuality. What else but demonic could Homosexuality and sexual perversion be.

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. [Romans 1:24-32]

That was quite a touching video.

It probably is demonic. How can something so unnatural suddenly be seen as normal. God did not create us to be this way.
Anything that is not of God, is of the devil.

If god is all that they claim he is, then he created homosexuals the way they are. All this talk of it being unnatural, who says? What one has here is homophobia writ large. No doubt someone would come forward and say the bible condemns homosexuality, in fact what is happening is that people hide their prejudice behind the bible.
Remember, the bible has been used to justify slavery - yet no sane christian would contend that slavery is biblical. Both the old and new testaments approve of slavery.
The bible condemns usury, hardly any christian would condemn the banks for charging high rates of interest.
The bible says that disobedient children should be stoned to death- I am not sure that any christians would want to do that.
The bible says if you find that your wife is not a virgin on your wedding night, you should take her to her father's house and stone her to death. How many of us would do that today?
Please, tell me why there is this unhealthy fascination with homosexuality? I suspect that it is not really about the bible, but prejudice.
Just remember

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Just add two lines somewhere
THEN THEY CAME for the gays,
and I didn't speak up because I was heterosexual"

Seriously, some people can be so ignorant and annoying. They claim they are christians but are so quick to judge others. i mean how can you compare Molestation to homosexuality its bizzare. They are so quick to condemn a lifestyle they dont even understand, i mean jesus did save the adultreous woman, so if the bible tells you to hate somebody, you are either reading it upside down or it is plain wrong. Personally, it will be hard to imagine two guys, but i dont hate them because science has proven that there were certain hormone deficiency when they were born, and also because i got to know one. This gay guy says he was born that way his words were "you think i like to get f#cked in the Bottom, man, i wish i was straight man". Just take a moment to think about it, its their life they are happy, why shouldnt you? Some people can be so blinded by faith they think someone can be raised from the dead. Well it takes a little less faith to believe they were born that way. Another funny thing, you talk about anything and people look at from the religious point, forgetting not everybody share their f#cking believe. And finally if anyone thinks they are better than homosexuals, they should go f#ck themselves because God made sure we were all created equal.

Let me ask one question (if anyone would be kind enough to answer) If sex was not pleasurable would there be any homosexuals?

What on earth does it mean to say that homosexuality is unnatural?

thehomer: What on earth does it mean to say that homosexuality is unnatural?

It is like saying that bestiality is unnatural.

thehomer: What on earth does it mean to say that homosexuality is unnatural?

Good question..

jmoore:

It is like saying that bestiality is unnatural.

So you'd compare sleeping with a human with sleeping with an animal?
If killing humans is wrong, does that mean killing animals is also wrong?

Zodiac61: [b]If god is all that they claim he is, then he created homosexuals the way they are. All this talk of it being unnatural, who says? [/b]What one has here is homophobia writ large. No doubt someone would come forward and say the bible condemns homosexuality, in fact what is happening is that people hide their prejudice behind the bible.
Remember, the bible has been used to justify slavery - yet no sane christian would contend that slavery is biblical. Both the old and new testaments approve of slavery.
The bible condemns usury, hardly any christian would condemn the banks for charging high rates of interest.
The bible says that disobedient children should be stoned to death- I am not sure that any christians would want to do that.
The bible says if you find that your wife is not a virgin on your wedding night, you should take her to her father's house and stone her to death. How many of us would do that today?
Please, tell me why there is this unhealthy fascination with homosexuality? I suspect that it is not really about the bible, but prejudice.
Just remember

Just add two lines somewhere
THEN THEY CAME for the gays,
and I didn't speak up because I was heterosexual"

jmoore:

It is like saying that bestiality is unnatural.

Homosexuality is quite different from bestiality in many ways e.g the two parties in a homosexual relationship are adult humans. This is not so in bestiality. Also, what you need to realize is that homosexuality is a sexual orientation while bestiality isn't.

musKeeto:

Zodiac61:
Remember, the bible has been used to justify slavery - yet no sane christian would contend that slavery is biblical. Both the old and new testaments approve of slavery.

1 Timothy 1:9-10 clearly says "We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,"

thehomer:

Homosexuality is quite different from bestiality in many ways e.g the two parties in a homosexual relationship are adult humans. This is not so in bestiality. Also, what you need to realize is that homosexuality is a sexual orientation while bestiality isn't.

lol, go ask those who are into bestiality, they will say it's their right. How funny it is for homosexuals to condemn bestiality.


God never created man with a so-called "homosexual need." No baby is born a homosexual. Every baby is born male or female.

jmoore:

. . .

lol, go ask those who are into bestiality, they will say it's their right. How funny it is for homosexuals to condemn bestiality.

You're confusing the issues. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation. I'm not talking about rights but about the fact of humans having a sexual orientation of which homosexuality is one of them. Just take a look at this.

jmoore:
God never created man with a so-called "homosexual need." No baby is born a homosexual. Every baby is born male or female.

How do you know God didn't do that? According to the Bible, there have been homosexuals for a long time. Someone being male or female is their sex. And you should realize that sex isn't binary. There are people who are intersex. You could also look that up.

Anyone can come up with their own s-exual preference. People are now having s-ex with robots.

Homosexuality has nothing with the gene, people make their choices. Every immoral acts did not start today

Wikipedia is not a moral guide.

There is nothing like a true hermaphrodite, learn more on http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-02/951254825.Dv.r.html

jmoore: Anyone can come up with their own s-exual preference. People are now having s-ex with robots.

Really? Can you decide today to be a homosexual for the next 5 years?

jmoore:
Homosexuality has nothing with the gene, people make their choices. Every immoral acts did not start today

Wikipedia is not a moral guide.

Did someone say it was?

jmoore:
There is nothing like a true hermaphrodite, learn more on http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-02/951254825.Dv.r.html

Again, take a look at what I referred you to and realize that the concept of male and female is complex because your article doesn't detract from what I said.

@ thehomer

A few questions for you please.

1. Is there anything wrong with sleeping with a human corpse, the legal rights over which reside with the person so sleeping with the corpse. I.E: A person's spouse dies. The person is the legal owner of the corpse. Is it right, in your view, for the person to have se.x with the corpse.

2. Is there anything wrong in having protected se.x with my 17 year old daughter (please note that 16 is the age of consent and as such she may legally give consent).

3. Is there anything wrong in having protected se.x with my sister, who is also above the age of consent.

4. Is there anything wrong in having protected se.x with my mother.

4. Is there anything wrong, as a man myself, in having homosex.ual intercourse with my father.

5. Is there anything wrong where a man surgically changes his se.x organs to female se.x organs and vice versa.

6. Do you think the human anus is naturally intended to function as a receiving se.xual organ.

Please answer me these questions with EXACTING honesty and we shall take it from there.

Merci.

Deep Sight: @ thehomer

A few questions for you please.

1. Is there anything wrong with sleeping with a human corpse, the legal rights over which reside with the person so sleeping with the corpse. I.E: A person's spouse dies. The person is the legal owner of the corpse. Is it right, in your view, for the person to have se.x with the corpse.

2. Is there anything wrong in having protected se.x with my 17 year old daughter (please note that 16 is the age of consent and as such she may legally give consent).

3. Is there anything wrong in having protected se.x with my sister, who is also above the age of consent.

4. Is there anything wrong in having protected se.x with my mother.

4. Is there anything wrong, as a man myself, in having homosex.ual intercourse with my father.

5. Is there anything wrong where a man surgically changes his se.x organs to female se.x organs and vice versa.

6. Do you think the human anus is naturally intended to function as a receiving se.xual organ.

Please answer me these questions with EXACTING honesty and we shall take it from there.

Merci.

What would the bearing of my response to these questions be to the issue of homosexuality?

thehomer:

What would the bearing of my response to these questions be to the issue of homosexuality?

ooooo. . .do I sense a hint of fear? Don't worry my good man, I simply want us to start from the underlying premises as to what exactly makes any se.xual act wrong or unnatural. We will then use same premises to see if homo.sexu.ality is unnatural or not.

You usually give unambiguous, short concise answers to questions. But something told me you would fear this particular set of questions. Please prove me wrong: revert to your normal self-assured self, answer the questions, and lets take it up from there.

Cheers.

While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. It is clear, however, that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent. First Corinthians 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful.

Whenever the Bible mentions marriage, it is between a male and a female. The first mention of marriage, Genesis 2:24, describes it as a man leaving his parents and being united to his wife. In passages that contain instructions regarding marriage, such as 1 Corinthians 7:2-16 and Ephesians 5:23-33, the Bible clearly identifies marriage as being between a man and a woman. Biblically speaking, marriage is the lifetime union of a man and a woman, primarily for the purpose of building a family and providing a stable environment for that family.

The Bible alone, however, does not have to be used to demonstrate this understanding of marriage. The biblical viewpoint of marriage has been the universal understanding of marriage in every human civilization in world history. History argues against gay marriage. Modern secular psychology recognizes that men and women are psychologically and emotionally designed to complement one another. In regard to the family, psychologists contend that a union between a man and woman in which both spouses serve as good gender role models is the best environment in which to raise well-adjusted children. Psychology argues against gay marriage. In nature/physicality, clearly, men and women were designed to “fit” together sexually. With the “natural” purpose of sexual intercourse being procreation, clearly only a sexual relationship between a man and a woman can fulfill this purpose. Nature argues against gay marriage.

So, if the Bible, history, psychology, and nature all argue for marriage being between a man and a woman—why is there such a controversy today? Why are those who are opposed to gay marriage/same-sex marriage labeled as hateful, intolerant bigots, no matter how respectfully the opposition is presented? Why is the gay rights movement so aggressively pushing for gay marriage/same-sex marriage when most people, religious and non-religious, are supportive of—or at least far less opposed to—gay couples having all the same legal rights as married couples with some form of civil union?

The answer, according to the Bible, is that everyone inherently knows that homosexuality is immoral and unnatural, and the only way to suppress this inherent knowledge is by normalizing homosexuality and attacking any and all opposition to it. The best way to normalize homosexuality is by placing gay marriage/same-sex marriage on an equal plane with traditional opposite-gender marriage. Romans 1:18-32 illustrates this. The truth is known because God has made it plain. The truth is rejected and replaced with a lie. The lie is then promoted and the truth suppressed and attacked. The vehemence and anger expressed by many in the gay rights movement to any who oppose them is, in fact, an indication that they know their position is indefensible. Trying to overcome a weak position by raising your voice is the oldest trick in the debating book. There is perhaps no more accurate description of the modern gay rights agenda than Romans 1:31, “they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.”

To give sanction to gay marriage/same-sex marriage would be to give approval to the homosexual lifestyle, which the Bible clearly and consistently condemns as sinful. Christians should stand firmly against the idea of gay marriage/same-sex marriage. Further, there are strong and logical arguments against gay marriage/same-sex marriage from contexts completely separated from the Bible. One does not have to be an evangelical Christian to recognize that marriage is between a man and a woman.

According to the Bible, marriage is ordained by God to be between a man and a woman (Genesis 2:21-24; Matthew 19:4-6). Gay marriage/same-sex marriage is a perversion of the institution of marriage and an offense to the God who created marriage. As Christians, we are not to condone or ignore sin. Rather, we are to share the love of God and the forgiveness of sins that is available to all, including homosexuals, through Jesus Christ. We are to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15) and contend for truth with “gentleness and respect” (1 Peter 3:15). As Christians, when we make a stand for truth and the result is personal attacks, insults, and persecution, we should remember the words of Jesus: “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you” (John 15:18-19).

Its all about hormones- hormonal imbalance. Humans are, to some extent, androgenous by nature. It is the predominance of either the male or female hormones that leads to sexual differentiation and or orientation.As far as we know, homosexuality is a situation where a male's body secretes more of the female hormones and less of the male hormones,thereby leading to inclination towards feminine tendencies-notably, attraction of the opposite hormones(in this case, other males).
Homosexuality is not a psychological dysfunction, it is physiological one. People are born homosexual just like any other physiological shortcoming.

We are naturally averse to the practice of homosexuality because it is the opposite of our default natural order.That is understandable . However,like the many oher contradictions of religious faith,it is very very silly to say that god(supposedly, the all knowing creator of all, who was pleased with his good works),is very angry at homosexuality(an error in his creation). Either god is very very silly or his babel of interpreters are the very silly ones.

If fornication is a sin, does god have a preference or tolerance for heterosexual fornication than he has for homosexual fornication? Are there hierachies of sin? A liar, a cheat, a thief and a murderer should be as guilty of sin as a homosexual fornicator. Not so?

Deep Sight:

ooooo. . .do I sense a hint of fear? Don't worry my good man, I simply want us to start from the underlying premises as to what exactly makes any se.xual act wrong or unnatural. We will then use same premises to see if homo.sexu.ality is unnatural or not.

It isn't fear that you sense but a request for clarification. It would serve both of us well to sort these things out early in the discussion.

Deep Sight:
You usually give unambiguous, short concise answers to questions. But something told me you would fear this particular set of questions. Please prove me wrong: revert to your normal self-assured self, answer the questions, and lets take it up from there.

Cheers.

Don't worry expect my usual sorts of responses but I still need one more clarification based on what you just said above.

By "wrong", what do you mean? Are you asking for my personal opinion on these issues or about what a society should consider legal or illegal or the advice I'll give to someone on these issues or what?
I also think you would need to separate the idea of wrongness from that of certain human acts being natural because that would just confuse the issue. So, are you going for wrong or unnatural?