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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by deomelllo: 8:12pm On Feb 01, 2018
ojobek:
I agreed with all what you said but the same thing can also be said of executive, hope you will not come tomorrow and started crying fouls when your lord(buhari)is no more there?



This is not about PMB, this is about strong, good and independent institutions where accused people on trial and under investigations are not allowed to pick their own favorite prosecutors, weaken, corrupt and undermine our crime-fighting institutions.


Regardless how you feel about the president, this is something you should avoid by any means necessary.


There are little or no EFCC convictions today simply because of our weak and corrupt institutions like the judiciary where politicians pick their own lawyers, judges and even preferred court locations like Ibori did when he moved his own case to his own state, even build his own court and picked his own judge hence escaping justice, but thank God, justice prevailed in the UK where they don't have weak and corrupt institutions.

Stop playing petty bigotry and tribalism with your future.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by magoo10(m): 8:12pm On Feb 01, 2018
deomelllo:



I still don't see the illegality here.

We both agree that the Senate can confirm and reject candidates, but where is the Nigerian constitution that says the president can not renominate the same candidate?

Show us the part of the Nigerian constitution that says the president can not renominate the same candidate.

I know the reason why many of you are on the side of the Senate per Magu, it's all because of politics, tribalism, bigotry and so on, but asking accused people on trial and under investigation to decide and pick their own favorite prosecutor is not good for you in the long run, not good for any country and their institutions.

you are making wild allegations after all it is buhari that should still nominate a competent replacement.

If buhari continues renominating magu and the senate continues rejecting him does that make sense to you? Haba a president should be more responsible than that . the efcc act States that the chairman of the commission shall be subject to the senates confirmation.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by deomelllo: 8:15pm On Feb 01, 2018
baralatie:

the president can continue whatever he likes!
the real question is does the act provide for an acting chairman pending confirmation from senate?


You just keep sidestepping my question for obvious reasons.

See, I know you can not show me any part of the Nigerian constitution that says the president can not renominate any candidate.

The Senate can keep rejecting, but the President can also keep reappointing.

They both have constitutional powers to do what they are doing. PERIOD.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by baralatie(m): 8:16pm On Feb 01, 2018
Alariiwo:


Then Saraki should vacate his seat likewise..

A man with several criminal charges shouldn't be in the position of senate president going by your logic.

I feel FG and Magu should put up a fight against Saraki in the courts too.

Na PMB kuku fvck up sha.. his cabal told him to leave Saraki there, making his whole amti-corruption mantra a joke.
look it is the igp that has powers to pursue any crook in the senate and house of rep.Now because saraki has a majority in the senate it is advisable for pmb to work with the senate but the confirmation of magu is not sarakis fault but the DSS that sent a damning report to senate and the President.
Therefore why should the president drag itself because of magu

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by baralatie(m): 8:19pm On Feb 01, 2018
deomelllo:



You just keep sidestepping my question for obvious reasons.

See, I know you can not show me any part of the Nigerian constitution that says the president can not renominate any candidate.

The Senate can keep rejecting, but the President can also keep reappointing.

They both have constitutional powers to do what they are doing. PERIOD.


(2) A member of the Commission may at any time be removed by the President for inability to discharge the functions of his office (whether arising from infirmity of mind or body or any other cause) or for misconduct or if the President is satisfied that it is not in the interest of the Commission or the interest of the public -' that the member should continue in office. ;
(3) A member of the Commission may resign his membership by notice in writing addressed to the President and that member shall, on the date of the receipt of the notice by the President, cease to be a member.
4. Where a vacancy occurs in the membership of the Commission, it shall be filled by the appointment of a successor to hold office for the remainder of the term of office of his predecessor, so however that the successor shall represent the same interest as his predecessor.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by deomelllo: 8:19pm On Feb 01, 2018
magoo10:
you are making wild allegations after all it is buhari that should still nominate a competent replacement.

If buhari continues renominating magu and the senate continues rejecting him does that make sense to you? Haba a president should be more responsible than that . the efcc act States that the chairman of the commission shall be subject to the senates confirmation.





The president is acting based on his own constitutional powers, not based on your feelings and opinion on NL.


The accused people on trial by the same EFCC rejecting the president's nominees until they are able to pick and approve their own favorite candidate make sense to you?

No, it makes no sense, the Senate can not bait and switch or game the system to favor them in them and they should never be allowed to usurp the powers and responsibilities of the Executive.
Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by baralatie(m): 8:23pm On Feb 01, 2018
there is no acting chairman of efcc pending confirmation after the expiration of a predecessors tenure.
Therefore the president cannot renominate a rejected candidate on the basis that the candidate is in acting capacity.
the efcc is not cjn!

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by deomelllo: 8:24pm On Feb 01, 2018
baralatie:
there is no acting chairman of efcc pending confirmation after the expiration of a predecessors tenure.
Therefore the president cannot renominate a rejected candidate on the basis that the candidate is in acting capacity.
the efcc is not cjn!



Unfortunately for you, the constitution trumps your layman NL opinion.
Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by ican2020: 8:28pm On Feb 01, 2018
He is unfit for the job, period.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by baralatie(m): 8:30pm On Feb 01, 2018
deomelllo:




Unfortunately for you, the constitution trumps your layman NL opinion.
quote the part of constitution that says that the president can nominate or renominate an ACTING CHAIRMAN OF THE EFCC after been rejected by the senate.and also quote the part of constitution where after the expiration of an efcc chairman.An Unconfirmed personel can hold the office of the chairman of the efcc and operate the powers thereof

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by mathias2000(m): 8:34pm On Feb 01, 2018
only corrupt Nigerian's will love this News,our senators are corrupt, MAGU carry go,no shaking,America and UK are with you,the ordinary Nigerian's are happy for you,the way you are carrying out your job is nice.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by deomelllo: 8:38pm On Feb 01, 2018
baralatie:

quote the part of constitution that says that the president can nominate or renominate an ACTING CHAIRMAN OF THE EFCC after been rejected by the senate.and also quote the part of constitution where after the expiration of an efcc chairman.An Unconfirmed personel can hold the office of the chairman of the efcc and operate the powers thereof

What kind of question is this. It's already been established that the president can nominate and since no law says he can not renominate, he can renominate.

No, answer mine first. Only the president can nominate candidates and their is no part in the Constitution that's prevents the president from renominating hence asking you to show us the part of the Constitution that says he can not.


If you are going to claim illegality, you must show us the so called illegality that says he can not

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by deomelllo: 8:43pm On Feb 01, 2018
Funny how the useless and incompetent lawmakers render themselves powerless when they infact have the power to amend the Constitution to clearly stipulate that the President can not renominate.

...but they can not amend the Constitution because they can not usurp the powers of the executive...this is their dilemma.


The president know what they are doing and why they are rejecting Magu and he is calling their bluff.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by magoo10(m): 8:44pm On Feb 01, 2018
deomelllo:




The president is acting based on his own constitutional powers, not based on your feelings and opinion on NL.


The accused people on trial by the same EFCC rejecting the president's nominees until they are able to pick and approve their own favorite candidate make sense to you?

No, it makes no sense, the Senate can not bait and switch or game the system to favor them in them and they should never be allowed to usurp the powers and responsibilities of the Executive.






The funny implication of this illegality is that a court can one day give judgement nullifying all magus actions regards corruption fight since he wasn't confirmed as per the efcc act which makes him subject to confirmation.

This is the type of brigandage that have been installed in the Nigerian system over the years by military authorities which is why the country will never move forward. Buhari is not a democratic leader that is why he finds it difficult to obey laws.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by deomelllo: 8:51pm On Feb 01, 2018
magoo10:
The funny implication of this illegality is that a court can one day give judgement nullifying all magus actions regards corruption fight since he wasn't confirmed as per the efcc act which makes him subject to confirmation.

This is the type of brigandage that have been installed in the Nigerian system over the years by military authorities which is why the country will never move forward. Buhari is not a democratic leader that is why he finds it difficult to obey laws.



Before arriving at the conclusion your first paragraph stated, you should first show us the part of the Constitution that negates the powers of the acting chairman of the efcc or that stipulates time and duration to serve as acting chairman.

Do you even know who is handling Magu's case at the presidency? VP Proof Osinbajo, a lawyer and First grade SAN. They know the law.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by baralatie(m): 9:00pm On Feb 01, 2018
deomelllo:


What kind of question is this. It's already been established that the president can nominate and since no law says he can not renominate, he can renominate.

No, answer mine first. Only the president can nominate candidates and their is no part in the Constitution that's prevents the president from renominating hence asking you to show us the part of the Constitution that says he can not.


If you are going to claim illegality, you must show us the so called illegality that says he can not
you have not answered the basic question.
can the president nominate an acting chairman of the efcc pending confirmation?

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by magoo10(m): 9:00pm On Feb 01, 2018
deomelllo:




Before arriving at the conclusion your first paragraph stated, you should first show us the part of the Constitution that negates the powers of the acting chairman of the efcc or that stipulates time and duration to serve as acting chairman.

Do you even know who is handling Magu's case at the presidency? VP Proof Osinbajo, a lawyer and First grade SAN. They know the law.
And there are no other SAN and grade A lawyers interpreting magus prolong stay as illegality? Osibanjo cannot do more than what buhari wants him to do just as he was appointed committee chairman on herdsmen killings,this is not about SANship as long the national assembly is concerned every action of magu is illegal and one day a court of law will put it to rest that is why they will find it difficult winning court cases outside abuja or Lagos which are mainly where the first grade SAN you talk about can influence judgement for them which is a wrong precedence.
Like I said earlier you don't build strong men but strong institutions .

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by deomelllo: 9:13pm On Feb 01, 2018
magoo10:
And there are no other SAN and grade A lawyers interpreting magus prolong stay as illegality? Osibanjo cannot do more than what buhari wants him to do just as he was appointed committee chairman on herdsmen killings,this is not about SANship as long the national assembly is concerned every action of magu is illegal and one day a court of law will put it to rest that is why they will find it difficult winning court cases outside abuja or Lagos which are mainly where the first grade SAN you talk about can influence judgement for them which is a wrong precedence.
Like I said earlier you don't build strong men but strong institutions .



There's no point to keep going back and forth with you.

The SANs at the presidency know very well that there is no law preventing the president from renominating and your own SANs can not prove them wrong.

Post the part of the Constitution that says the president can not renominate any candidates, if you can't, then you are just ranting doe nothing.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by magoo10(m): 9:18pm On Feb 01, 2018
deomelllo:




There's no point to keep going back and forth with you.

The SANs at the presidency know very well that there is no law preventing the president from renominating and your own SANs can not prove them wrong.

Post the part of the Constitution that says the president can not renominate any candidates, if you can't, then you are just ranting doe nothing.

The SAN in the presidency are political SANs used to defend wrong doings of those in power. They will always obey their master.

Post the part of the constitution which says the president can continue renominating an appointee that have been rejected by the senate.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by Okoroawusa: 9:20pm On Feb 01, 2018
Is this an APC Senate so?
Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by deomelllo: 9:30pm On Feb 01, 2018
magoo10:
The SAN in the presidency are political SANs used to defend wrong doings of those in power. They will always obey their master.

Post the part of the constitution which says the president can continue renominating an appointee that have been rejected by the senate.



1. We both know the president can nominate, but no law says he can not and I've asked you several times to show us where the Constitution days he can not.

2. The fact that you can not show us anything and instead asking me the same question means there is no law preventing the president from renominating hence your inability to answer my question .

2. The president is renominating and you are saying he can not, the burden is on you and the Senate to stop him with the part of the Nigerian Constitution that says he cannot.

You can not show it and the Senate can not show it to stop the president.

Constitution and legalities has nothing to do with emotions and sentiments, it's about legal and constitutional facts.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by magoo10(m): 9:35pm On Feb 01, 2018
deomelllo:




1. We both know the president can nominate, but no law says he can not and I've asked you several times to show us where the Constitution days he can not.

2. The fact that you can not show us anything and instead asking me the same question means there is no law preventing the president from renominating hence your inability to answer my question .

2. The president is renominating and you are saying he can not, the burden is on you and the Senate to stop him with the part of the Nigerian Constitution that says he cannot.

You can not show it and the Senate can not show it to stop the president.

Constitution and legalities has nothing to do with emotions and sentiments, it's about legal and constitutional facts.





Show me a part of the law or constitution where a president can continue renominating a rejected appointee by the senate.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by deomelllo: 9:55pm On Feb 01, 2018
magoo10:
Show me a part of the law or constitution where a president can continue renominating a rejected appointee by the senate.



When you answer a question with another question, it means you don't have an answer, even the Senate cannot provide the answer because the president can nominate according to the constitution hence renominating.


I'm done here, not need to keep going spinning my wheels, I know your type.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by stilldoingokay(f): 10:31pm On Feb 01, 2018
Alariiwo:


Anti-corruption war of course..

Over 70% of those senators are under investigation by Magu, Saraki inclusive.

They want Buhari to appoint a puppet they can control. But guess what.. the West (US, UK and co.) are behind Magu.


bhahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

anti corruption my foot,


no be only anti corruption, anty concoction go join.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by lanreSamson: 10:44pm On Feb 01, 2018
Rejection as EFCC chairman not as acting EFCC chairman
Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by BullionVan111: 10:46pm On Feb 01, 2018
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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by cr7rooney10(m): 10:47pm On Feb 01, 2018
[quote author=Alariiwo post=64701007]

Keep shut!

Magu just like any of those senators has every right to hold public office. Every Nigerian has that right.

Everyone knows the motive behind Magu's rejection, so keep your bullshit talk to yourself alone.[wa gbayi jare some people turn niraland to public toilet]
Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by luvinhubby(m): 10:48pm On Feb 01, 2018
Alariiwo:


That act is flawed.
Efcc chairmanship need not require Senate confirmation.

An anti-graft agency with the power to investigate anybody should stand alone without external influence. Not even Senate.

Stop corrupting logic with emotions.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by tydi(m): 10:49pm On Feb 01, 2018
Stop the plenty prayers for the Nation and go get your PVC. Inec counts votes not prayer points

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by Awoo88: 10:56pm On Feb 01, 2018
Not that magu is effective but in a case the efcc manages to get a conviction, the conviction can be challenged on the ground that magu doesn't have the lucos standi to investigate having being rejected for confirmation.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by timota(m): 10:56pm On Feb 01, 2018
Alariiwo:


Then Saraki should vacate his seat likewise..

A man with several criminal charges shouldn't be in the position of senate president going by your logic.

I feel FG and Magu should put up a fight against Saraki in the courts too.
In saner climes, he would have stepped down honorably.

Na PMB kuku fvck up sha.. his cabal told him to leave Saraki there, making his whole amti-corruption mantra a joke.
what of the man without o level certificate.

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Re: Court Affirms Senate's Power To Reject Magu by pennywys(m): 10:59pm On Feb 01, 2018
Alariiwo:


Keep shut!

Magu just like any of those senators has every right to hold public office. Every Nigerian has that right.

Everyone knows the motive behind Magu's rejection, so keep your bullshit talk to yourself alone.
Mr sabi are you now saying Magu should turn down the court order and ride on for his selfish interest?

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