danvon:
What of Paul who used his knowledge of law to save his life? Or Peter who denied Jesus to save his life? Even Jesus prayed to God the father to save his life if it's his will

That's Suicide

BlueAngel444:
Paul did not use his knowledge of the law to save his life but get a fair charge or trail which provided him an opportunity to spread the gospel more.

danvon:

Peter might have been brave then because he didn't realize the seriousness when he saw Jesus being tortured his mind changed.

Most of the Early Christians deserved fair trail which they didn't use, Jesus could have easily argued his case to safety but he didn't do it

The Christians in the story could deny Jesus to spread the gospel more, but should they do it?

Tosinex:
Suicide is synonymous to murder, killing oneself. You don't need to kill yourself even if you are the worst or the most wicked person on earth. So please desist from suicide or the thought of it, try as much as possible not to be depressed because it's from there the devil will start planting the thought of suicide into your heart, rather rejoice and give thanks to God in all things.

Ebios:
"...curse be on anyone that hangs himself on a tree..."(Deut21.23)

Suicide is an unforgiveable sin because the person cannot repent again after killing himself.There is no amount of prayer for a dead person that can change him or make God take him to heaven.

DeSepiero:
A fellow stands in the path of a moving train that crushed the fellow to death. He did it so that his other siblings will avoid the path that kills. The fellow had the power to move away from the trains path but he chose to remain there.

Is that Suicide?

Another fellow stands in the path of Roman soldiers who wants him killed and eventually killed him on a stake. He did it so his followers will avoid the path that kills. The fellow had the power to move away from the path of the soldiers but he chose to remain there.

Is that Suicide?

BlueAngel444:

Are you saying Jesus killed himself

Ebios:
This question u are asking, u already have an answer to it oh. U are above this pls.
.
Jesus allowed Himself to be killed.
Did He commit suicide?

BlueAngel444:


Well Jesus didn't kill himself sha

ochibuogwu5:
Somebody as my work was talking about suicide not too long ago and I had to remind them what the church teaches about suicide. We can of course never know the mental state of one who has commited suicide and therefore with the church we pray for those who have committed suicide, and we entrust them to the mercy of God.

I have a relative who committed suicide and I cling to what the church teaches in the hope that they will attain eternal salvation by the mercy of God.

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Suicide

2280 Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.

2281 Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God.

2282 If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law.

Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.

2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.
#copied

danvon:
People have been asking so much about suicide recently

No it's not unforgivable Samson also committed suicide Judges 16:30 the only sin that is unforgivable is blaspheming against the holy spirit

"Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."
Matthew:12:31

Not encouraging suicide but it's not an unforgivable sin as long you accept Jesus as your Savior

BlueAngel444:

A woman lost her daughter and was wailing profusely. We find out that her loud cry wasn't just because her daughter was dead but because her daughter, a believer in Christ Jesus, committed suicide.

BlueAngel444:

Efforts to comfort her that her daughter is in heaven proved futile.

BlueAngel444:

Suicide is an act of killing oneself deliberately/intentional.

The six scriptures, (judges 9: 50-57, 16: 28-30; 1 sam 31:1-6; 2 sam 17:23; 1 kings 16: 18-19; matt 27:5) in the bible that say anything about suicide doesn't condemn it nor commend it.

BlueAngel444:

Now my question.

Is suicide a sin?

BlueAngel444:

if yes
Is it forgivable?

BlueAngel444:

if yes
How does one convince this woman her daughter is in heaven or forgiven?

BlueAngel444:

Pls explain, even if your answer is no, biblical explain your answer thank you.

AntiChristian:

. GENESIS 17:1-14.

AND when Abram was
ninety years old and nine,
The LORD appeared to Abram,
and Said unto him,

"I am The Almighty God;
walk before Me,
and be thou perfect.
2. "And I will make
My Covenant
between Me and thee,
and will multiply thee exceedingly."

3. And Abram fell on his face:
and God Talked with him,
Saying,

4. "As for Me,
behold, My Covenant
is with thee,
and thou shalt be
a Father of many Nations.
5. "Neither shall thy name
any more be called "Abram,"
but thy name shall be "Abraham;"
for a father of many nations
have I made thee.
6. "And I will make thee
Exceeding Fruitful,
and I will make
nations of thee,
and kings shall
come out of thee.
7. "And I will establish
My Covenant
between Me and thee
and thy seed after thee
in their Generations
for an Everlasting Covenant,
to be a God unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee.
8. "And I will give unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee,
the land wherein
thou art a stranger,
all the land of Canaan,
for an Everlasting Possession;
and I will be their God."

9. And God Said
unto Abraham,

"Thou shalt keep
My Covenant therefore,
thou, and thy seed after thee
in their Generations.
10. "This is My Covenant,
Which ye shall keep,
between Me and you
and thy seed after thee;

'EVERY MAN CHILD AMONG YOU
SHALL BE CIRCUMCISED.'

11. "And ye shall circumcise
the flesh of your foreskin;
and it shall be
a Token of The Covenant
betwixt me and you.
12. "And he that is
eight days old
shall be circumcised
among you,
every man child
in your Generations,
he that is born in the house,
or bought with money
of any stranger,
which is not of thy seed.
13. "He that is born
in thy house,
and he that is bought
with thy money,
must needs be circumcised:
and My Covenant
shall be in your flesh
for an Everlasting Covenant.
14. "And the uncircumcised
man child
whose flesh of his foreskin
is not circumcised,
that soul shall be cut off
from his people;
he hath broken My Covenant."

oaroloye:

. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. "This Book of The Law
shall not depart
out of thy mouth
but thou shalt meditate
therein day and night,
that thou mayest do
according to all
that is written therein:
for then thou shalt
make thy way prosperous,
and then thou shalt have
Good Success."

. PSALM 1:1-6.

BLESSED is the man
that walketh not
in The Counsel of the Ungodly,
nor standeth in the Way of Sinners,
nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful.
2. But his delight is
in The Law of The LORD;
and in His Law
doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree
planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit
in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth
shall prosper.
4. The Ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff
which the wind driveth away.
5.Therefore the Ungodly
shall not stand
in The Judgment,
nor Sinners
in The Congregation
of The Righteous.
6. For The LORD knoweth
The Way of the Righteous:
but the Way of the Ungodly
shall Perish.

. PSALM 119:97-105.

97. O how I love Thy Law!
It is my meditation all the day.
98. Thou through Thy Commandments
hast made me Wiser
than mine enemies:
for They are ever with me.
99 I have more Understanding
than all my teachers:
for Thy Testimonies
are my meditation.
100. I understand
more than the Ancients,
because I keep Thy Precepts.
101. I have refrained my feet
from every Evil Way,
that I might keep Thy Word.
102. I have not departed
from Thy Judgments:
for Thou hast taught me.
103. How sweet are Thy Words
unto my taste!
yea, sweeter than honey
to my mouth!
104. Through Thy Precepts
I get Understanding:
therefore I hate
every False Way.
105. Thy Word is a Lamp
unto my feet,
and a Light unto my path.

Martinez19:

Suicide is not a sin rather I see it as a sign that certain issues of life are not paid attention to or there are serious issues we are ignorant of.

bloodofthelamb:

Can a believer who is in fellowship with God the Father and Son commit suicide? I seriously doubt.

BlueAngel444:

Whether you doubt it or not doesn't mean it isn't happening.

BlueAngel444:

Even Paul and Job wanted to die, Paul said to die is gain but to live is Christ for the benefit of others. What about Elijah that asked to die?

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



THIS IS A STUPID QUESTION, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT TOLD THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE SUICIDE.

That is consistent with TROLL POSTS!

. LUKE 13:1-9.

THERE were present
at that season some that told him
of the Galilaeans,
whose blood Pilate had mingled
with their sacrifices.
2. and Jesus answering
Said unto them,

"Suppose ye that
these Galilaeans were Sinners
above all the Galilaeans,
because they suffered
such things?
3. "I Tell you,

'NAY: BUT,
EXCEPT YE REPENT,
YE SHALL ALL
LIKEWISE PERISH.'

4. "Or those eighteen,
upon whom the tower in Siloam fell,
and slew them,
think ye that they
were Sinners above all men
that dwelt in Jerusalem?
5. "I Tell you,

'NAY: BUT,
EXCEPT YE REPENT,
YE SHALL ALL
LIKEWISE PERISH.'

6. he spake also this Parable;

"A certain man had a fig tree
planted in his vineyard ;
and he came
and sought fruit thereon,
and found none.
7 . Then said he unto the dresser
of his vineyard ,

'BEHOLD, THESE THREE YEARS
I COME SEEKING FRUIT
ON THIS FIG TREE,
AND FIND NONE:
CUT IT DOWN;
WHY CUMBERETH IT
THE GROUND?'

8. "and he answering said unto him,

'LORD,
LET IT ALONE THIS YEAR ALSO,
TILL I SHALL DIG ABOUT IT,
AND DUNG IT:
9. 'AND IF IT BEAR FRUIT,
WELL: IF NOT,
then AFTER THAT THOU
SHALT CUT IT DOWN.' "

People who commit Suicide are therefore Forced or led out of This Life, AS EXECUTION FOR UNPRODUCTIVITY!

Also, you are totally lying to say that the stupid girl was a Believer in Jesus Christ.

Where did Lord Yeshua Command his followers to commit suicide?

Where did Lord Yeshua Command his followers to be susceptible to Death?

Anyone calling Lord Yeshua "CHRIST," in public, is always a DECEIVER.



WHAT? YOU GOT AN "ALERT," TELLING YOU THAT SHE HAD ARRIVED IN HEAVEN? YOU ARE THE JUDGE WHO DECIDES WHO GOES TO HEAVEN?

Stop being so stupid!

Why do you have to follow the EVIL OYINBO CUSTOM of LYING about knowing a person's AfterLife Destination?

. MATTHEW 19:13-30.

13. Then were there
brought unto him
little children,
that he should
put his hands on them,
and Pray:
and the Disciples
rebuked them.
14. But Jesus Said,

"Suffer little children,
and forbid them not,
to come unto me:
for of such is
The Kingdom of Heaven."

15. And he laid his hands on them,
and departed thence.

16. And, behold, one came
and said unto him,

"Good Master,
what good thing shall I do,
that I may have Eternal Life?"

17. And he Saith unto him,

"Why callest thou me 'Good?'
(There is) none Good but One,
(that is,) God:
but if thou wilt enter into Life,
keep The Commandments."

18. He saith unto him,

"Which?"

Jesus Said,

"THOU SHALT DO NO
MURDER
THOU SHALT NOT
COMMIT ADULTERY,
THOU SHALT NOT
STEAL,
THOU SHALT NOT
BEAR FALSE WITNESS,
19. "HONOUR THY FATHER
AND (THY) MOTHER: and,
THOU SHALT LOVE
THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF."

20. The young man saith unto him,

"All these thing things
have I kept from my youth up:
what lack I yet?"

21. Jesus Saith unto him,

"If thou wilt be perfect,
go (and) sell that thou hast,
and give to the Poor,
and thou shalt have
Treasure in Heaven:
and come (and) follow me."

22. But when the young man
heard that Saying,
he went away sorrowful:
for he had great possessions.
23. Then Said Jesus
unto his Disciples,

"Verily I Say unto you,

'THAT A RICH MAN
SHALL HARDLY ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.'

24. "Again I Say unto you,

'IT IS EASIER FOR A CAMEL
TO GO THROUGH
THE EYE OF A NEEDLE,
THAN FOR A RICH MAN
TO ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' "

25. When his Disciples heard (it)
they were exceedingly amazed,
saying,

"Who then can be Saved?"

26. But Jesus beheld (them),
and Said unto them,

"With men this is impossible;
but with God all things are possible."

27. Then answered Peter
and said unto him,

"Behold, we have forsaken all,
and followed thee;
what shall we have therefore?"

28. And Jesus Said unto them,

"Verily I Say unto you,

'THAT YE WHICH HAVE FOLLOWED ME,
IN THE REGENERATION
WHEN THE SON OF MAN
SHALL SIT IN THE THRONE
OF HIS GLORY,
YE ALSO SHALL SIT
UPON TWELVE THRONES,
JUDGING THE TWELVE TRIBES
OF ISRAEL.
29. 'AND EVERY ONE
THAT HATH
FORSAKEN HOUSES,
OR BRETHREN,
OR SISTERS, OR FATHER,
OR MOTHER,
OR WIFE, OR CHILDREN,
OR LANDS,
FOR MY NAME'S SAKE,
SHALL RECEIVE AN HUNDREDFOLD,
AND SHALL INHERIT EVERLASTING LIFE.'

30. "But many that are first
shall be last;
and the last shall be first."

RICH BRATS COMMIT SUICIDE ALL THE TIME- POOR PEOPLE KNOW THE VALUE OF THEIR LIVES, AND ENDURE REAL HARDSHIPS.

Imagine committing suicide because your Soccer Team lost! Or, because your company failed? Your embezzlement was discovered? Or someone else was of the wrong Religion?



A PERSON WHO COMMITS SUICIDE SHOULD HAVE REACHED THE END OF THEIR BRAIN.

If you throw a grenade into a group of a dozen Nigerian Soldiers, you will have twelve dead Nigerian Soldiers.

If you throw a grenade into a group of Oyinbo Soldiers, only one of THEM will die, but YOUR corpse will have at least eleven bullet holes in it!

That is how OYINBOS are.



DEATH IS ONLY POSSIBLE THROUGH SIN.

. JOHN 8:51-53.

51. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'IF A MAN
KEEP MY SAYING,
HE SHALL NEVER
SEE DEATH.' "

52. Then said the Jews
unto him,

"Now we know
that thou hast a Devil.
Abraham is dead,
and the Prophets;
and thou sayest,

'IF A MAN
KEEP MY SAYING,
HE SHALL NEVER
TASTE OF DEATH.'

53. "Art thou greater
than our father Abraham,
which is dead?
and the Prophets are dead:
whom makest thou thyself?"



DELIBERATE SINS ARE NOT COVERED BY ATONEMENT.

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO FORGIVE INIQUITIES- BUT HE IS NOT REQUIRED TO FORGIVE SUCH SINS.



BY LYING LIKE A BLASPHEMOUS (*Bleep!*)ARD

There is NO guarantee of that.



. LUKE 17:1-10.

THEN Said he
unto the Disciples,

"It is impossible but that
offences will come:
but woe unto him,
through whom they come!
2. "It were better for him
that a millstone
were hanged about his neck,
and he cast into the Sea,
than that he should offend
one of these little ones.
3. "Take heed to yourselves:
If thy Brother trespass
against thee,
Rebuke him;
and if he Repent,
Forgive him.
4. "And if he trespass
against thee
seven times in a day,
and seven times in a day
turn again to thee,
saying,

'I REPENT;'

thou shalt forgive him."

5. And the Apostles said unto the Lord,

"Increase our Faith."

6. And the Lord said,

"If ye had Faith
as a grain of mustard seed,
ye might say unto this Sycamine tree,

'BE THOU PLUCKED UP
BY THE ROOT,
AND BE THOU PLANTED
IN THE SEA;'

7. "But which of you,
having a servant
plowing or feeding cattle,
will say unto him by and by,
when he is come from the field,

'GO AND SIT DOWN TO MEAT?'

8. "And will not rather say unto him,

'MAKE READY
WHEREWITH I MAY SUP,
AND GIRD THYSELF,
AND SERVE ME,
TILL I HAVE EATEN
AND DRUNKEN;
AND AFTERWARD THOU
SHALT EAT AND DRINK?'

9. "Doth he thank that servant
because he did the things
that were commanded him?
I trow not.
10. "So likewise ye,
when ye shall have done
all those things
which are Commanded you,
say,

'WE ARE
UNPROFITABLE SERVANTS:
WE HAVE DONE THAT
WHICH WAS OUR
DUTY TO DO.' "

. LUKE 19:11-27.

11. And as they heard
these things,
he added
and Spake a Parable,
because he was nigh
to Jerusalem,
and because they thought
that The Kingdom of God
should immediately appear.
12. He said therefore,

"A certain nobleman
went into a far country
to receive for himself a kingdom,
and to return.
13. And he called
his ten servants,
and delivered them ten pounds,
and said unto them,

'OCCUPY TILL I COME.'

14. "But his citizens
hated him,
and sent a message
after him,
saying,

'WE WILL NOT HAVE THIS
(MAN) TO REIGN OVER US.'

15. "And it came to pass,
that when he was returned,
having received the kingdom,
then he commanded
these servants
to be called unto him,
to whom he had
given the money,
that he might know
how much
every man had gained
by trading.
16. "Then came the first,
saying,

'LORD, THY POUND
HATH GAINED TEN POUNDS.'

17. "And he said unto him,

'WELL, THOU GOOD SERVANT:
BECAUSE THOU HAST
BEEN FAITHFUL IN
A VERY LITTLE,
HAVE THOU AUTHORITY
OVER TEN CITIES.'

18. "And the second came,
saying,

'LORD, THY POUND
HATH GAINED FIVE POUNDS.'

19. "And he said likewise
to him,

'BE THOU ALSO OVER FIVE CITIES.'

20. "And another came,
saying,

'LORD, BEHOLD,
HERE IS THY POUND,
WHICH I HAVE KEPT
LAID UP IN A NAPKIN:
21. 'FOR I FEARED THEE,
BECAUSE THOU ART
AN AUSTERE MAN:
THOU TAKEST UP
THAT THOU
LAYEDST NOT DOWN,
AND REAPEST
THAT THOU DIDST NOT SOW.'

22. "And he saith unto him,

'OUT OF THINE OWN MOUTH
WILL I JUDGE THEE,
THOU WICKED SERVANT.
THOU KNEWEST
THAT I WAS
AN AUSTERE MAN,
TAKING UP THAT
I LAID NOT DOWN,
AND REAPING THAT
I DID NOT SOW:
23. 'WHEREFORE THEN
GAVEST NOT THOU
MY MONEY INTO THE BANK,
THAT AT MY COMING
I MIGHT HAVE REQUIRED
MINE OWN
WITH USURY?'

24. "And he said unto them
that stood by,

'TAKE FROM HIM THE POUND,
AND GIVE IT TO HIM
THAT HATH TEN POUNDS.'

25. "[And they said unto him,

'LORD, HE HATH TEN POUNDS.]'

26. 'FOR I SAY UNTO YOU,

"THAT UNTO EVERY ONE
WHICH HATH
SHALL BE GIVEN;
AND FROM HIM
THAT HATH NOT,
EVEN THAT HE HATH
SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY
FROM HIM."

27. 'BUT THOSE MINE ENEMIES,
WHICH WOULD NOT
THAT I SHOULD REIGN
OVER THEM,
BRING HITHER,
AND SLAY THEM
BEFORE ME.' "

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER.

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.

TO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD IS NOT ENOUGH TO GET ONE SAVED: BECAUSE THAT IS OUR BASIC DUTY!

We MUST show MUCH MORE progress than that, in order to PLEASE THE LORD and be REWARDED BY GOD.

As we show God that we are able to use His Law and Gospel to acquire THE TEN TALENTS, when we attain HOLINESS, we are specifically rewarded with KNOWLEDGE, RESPONSIBILITY, and CONTROL of CITIES.

But those Christians who have to be Resurrected without having developed anything BEYOND Total Recall will be REVILED and REJECTED in DISGRACE.

It is PREPOSTEROUS that anyone DARE SUGGEST that someone who has not even attained TOTAL RECALL can possibly be Saved.

TOTAL RECALL takes up to, but strangely, not OVER a YEAR to attain. There are several techniques of attaining this ability, but it should be important to use BIBLICAL means.

This separates the MEN from the BOYS in CHRISTIANITY. FOOLS say that all Churches are EQUALLY USELESS- this Doctrine is THE ONE that determines whether your Church saves anyone or not.

If they don't have It, all they are doing is FEEDING DEVILS- because all Creatures that DIE without TOTAL RECALL have their Souls CUT OPEN to EXTRACT their LIFE'S MEMORIES. This damage is so severe, that they cannot deploy their AFTERLIFE BODY. THE DEVILS descend on them, and DESTROY THE SOUL COMPLETELY in the process of extracting its LAST LIFE ENERGIES.

This is THE TRUTH of what happens at Death, of EVERY CREATURE, in EVERY Nation, and EVERY Religion on Earth.

Since most Religions do not have CONTROLLED ESP, they DON'T KNOW that all their Religious Activities are doing is FEEDING THE DEVILS.

This is THE MOST IMPORTANT SPIRITUAL FACT on Earth.

This should compel intelligent people to DROP EVERYTHING, and FOCUS upon attaining HOLINESS and THE FIRST TALENT OF POWER.

Those who (ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO) attain TOTAL RECALL, but STILL DIE, are NOT cut open, their Data is RECEIVED, and they are allowed to draw upon the Life Energies of all their Cells to create their Spirit Energy AfterLife Body, that houses their Mind, Personality, and Memory.

Then, and ONLY THEN, do they face issues of HEAVEN, PARADISE, or HELL.

It appears that Great Spiritual Masters have had the ability to CREATE or RECEIVE Safe Havens in the Spiritual Realm for themselves and their followers.

It also appears that some of them may have been DUPED by Hostile Spirit Beings, into accepting AfterLife Worlds in which they and their followers are PRISONERS, who are FEEDING THEIR LIFE FORCE to DEVILS, by being forced to use their Realms. Lord Yeshua tried to warn his Disciples about this. (With the usual result- no one listened.)

I have been uniquely enabled to piece these facts together, through my own completely accidental discovery of BIBLICAL TOTAL RECALL, some 35 years ago, which enabled me to interpret the Spiritual Testimonies of Native American Mysticism research Anthropologist CARLOS CASTANEDA, and the Mental Optimization researcher, LAFAYETTE RONALD HUBBARD.

[See: DIANETICS: The Modern Science of Mental Health, by L. Ron Hubbard.
THE EAGLE'S GIFT, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE POWER OF SILENCE, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE ART OF DREAMING, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE ACTIVE SIDE OF INFINITY, by Carlos Castaneda.]

This enabled me to advance far beyond any Organized Christian Church, and attain the True Interpretation of THE GOSPEL.

How do we know The ONE True Interpretation of The Bible from the False Interpretations?

ANY CHURCH THAT DOES NOT RECOGNIZE AND TEACH THE FIRST TALENT OF POWER IS FAKE!

. AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

THERE ARE CHRISTIANS WHO CLAIM TO HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD, OR LORD YESHUA- AND EVEN TO HAVE SEEN THEM, AND ASCENDED TO THEIR REALM.

[Example: KENNETH E. HAGIN- of Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA. ROLAND S. BUCK of Boise, Idaho, USA.]

But "GOD," or "JESUS" never once told them: "YOU AND YOUR BRETHREN NEED TO LEARN TOTAL RECALL!"

How can you and your friend be walking down the street, and your ZIPPER is open- and your "friend" knows this, but does not tell you?

If your Earthly friend can have such a sense of Right and Wrong as to tell you clearly and directly that your zip is unfastened, HOW MUCH MORE WOULD THE HEAVENLY FATHER WARN YOU OF THIS IMPORTANT SHORTCOMING?

Those two men DID experience TOTAL RECALL, that is totally consistent with the experiences they claimed to have.

But these others who claim to have had visions of Lord Yeshua, or heard The Voice of God or The Lord- they have nothing to show for it, but "Parlour Tricks" only they can do?

In Churches of TEN OF THOUSAND, only THEY can HEAL- if anyone has a Problem, ONLY THE "PASTOR" can fix it?

That is FAKE Religion, my Friend.

That is NOT Lord Yeshua's TRUE GOSPEL!

oaroloye:
[(4 of 4) Concluded:]



DO YOU LYING SCUM HAVE SCRIPTURE TO BACK YOUR STATEMENT? OF COURSE NOT!

. DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9.

4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God
is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee this day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them
diligently unto thy children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest
in thine house,
and when thou walkest
by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind Them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write Them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.

WHAT GOSPEL DO YOU PREACH TO THE WORLD? THAT WHEN YOU LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, ALL YOUR SOUL, AND ALL YOUR MIGHT- HE JUST LEAVES YOU DEATH AS YOUR FINAL OPTION?

. 2^nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout
the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those
whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

GOD SHOWS HIMSELF STRONG TO THOSE WHO MAKE THEIR HEARTS PERFECT BEFORE HIM!

. DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5.

32. What thing soever I Command you,
observe to do it:
thou shalt not add thereto,
nor diminish from it.
IF there arise among you
a Prophet,
or a Dreamer of Dreams,
and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder,
2. And the Sign or
the Wonder come to pass,
whereof he spake unto thee,
saying,

"LET US GO
AFTER OTHER GODS,
WHICH THOU
HAST NOT KNOWN,
AND LET US SERVE THEM;"

3. Thou shalt not hearken unto
The Words of that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams:
for The LORD your God proveth you,
to know whether ye love
The LORD your God
with all your heart
and with all your soul.
4. Ye shall walk after
The LORD your God,
and fear Him,
and keep His Commandments,
and obey His Voice,
and ye shall serve Him,
and cleave unto Him.
5. And that prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams,
shall be put to death;
because he hath spoken
to turn you away
from The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the Land of Egypt,
and Redeemed you
out of the House of Bondage,
to thrust thee out of The Way
which The LORD thy God
Commanded thee to walk in.

BY DELIBERATELY TRYING TO MISLEAD PEOPLE AS TO THE WAY OF GOD, YOU HAVE JUST COMMITTED SUICIDE!

.     EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God Spake
all these Words,
Saying,

2. "I (am) The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of The Land of Egypt,
out of The House of Bondage.

3. "Thou shalt have
no other gods before Me.

4. "Thou shalt not
make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness (of any thing)
that (is) in the Earth beneath,
or that (is) in the Water
under the Earth:
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I The LORD thy God
(am) a Jealous God,
visiting the iniquity
of the fathers
upon the third and fourth (generation)
of them that Hate Me.
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them
which Love Me,
and Keep My Commandments.

7. "Thou shalt not
take The Name
of The LORD thy God
in vain;
for The LORD will not
hold him guiltless
that taketh His Name
in vain."

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

. LEVITICUS 19:14.

14. "Thou shalt not
curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock
before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God:
I (am) The LORD."

. DEUTERONOMY 27:18.

18. "Cursed be he
that maketh the blind
to wander out of the way."

And all the people shall say,

"Amen."

THE OYINBO ILLUMINATI WITCHES WHO TAUGHT YOU THAT BULLSHIT SURELY REJOICE, WHEN YOU COMMIT SUICIDE, AS THEY HAVE TAUGHT YOU!

As the SPANISH ROMAN CATHOLICS surely rejoiced, when they induced GABRIEL DIYA to complete his SUICIDE, last Christmas- by sending his children to swim in "ICE-WATER," in the middle of WINTER, in an UNHEATED POOL RIGGED to SUCK the occupants into the MIDDLE!

.   LUKE 14:28-32.

28. "For which of you,
intending to build a tower,
sitteth not down first,
and counteth the cost,
whether he have
sufficient to finish it?
29. "Lest haply,
after he hath
laid the foundation,
and is not able to finish it,
all that behold it
begin to mock him,
30. "Saying,

'THIS MAN
BEGAN TO BUILD,
AND WAS NOT
ABLE TO FINISH.'

31. "Or what king,
going to make war
against another king,
sitteth not down first,
and consulteth
whether he be able
with ten thousand
to meet him that
cometh against him
with twenty thousand?
32. "Or else,
while the other is yet
a great way off,
he sendeth an ambassage,
and desireth conditions
of peace."

AS A BLACK PROTESTANT PASTOR, GABRIEL DIYA COULD NOT HAVE SAID THAT HE DID NOT KNOW THAT THE SPANISH ARE THE ENEMIES OF PROTESTANT CHRISTIANS IN GENERAL, AND OF PENTECOSTALS- IN PARTICULAR!

Any educated Black Man should know that SPAIN STARTED THE TRANSATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE!

That made going into THEIR Territory, to swim in THEIR POOL, on THEIR HOLIEST FEAST DAY, an ACT OF WAR.

Where were his REINFORCEMENTS?

He did NOT count the Cost.

He did NOT consult.

HE BROKE THE COMMANDMENTS OF LORD YESHUA.

He committed SUICIDE.



FALSE CHRISTIANS, HOWEVER, COMMIT SUICIDE ALL THE TIME.



THAT YOU LIARS CANNOT SHOW HOW A BELIEVER IN GOD AND YESHUA CAN CHOOSE TO DIE AND BE IN FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD AND THE LORD IS EVIDENCE THAT IT CANNOT HAPPEN.

. JOHN 6:47.

47. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
HATH EVERLASTING LIFE.' "

ORAL ROBERTS' son, RONALD ROBERTS (37) committed suicide by gun in 1982, having been a Closet Homosexual.

RICK WARREN'S son, MATTHEW WARREN (27) committed suicide after battling with MENTAL ILLNESS his whole life, according to his father.

The reason why these sons of hi-profile "Full" Gospel and Evangelical Christians committed Suicide is because what their father's taught them was not TRUE CHRISTIANITY.

Neither type was based on KEEPING LORD YESHUA'S TEACHINGS.



IT IS FOOLISH TO BRING UP JOB, WHO HAD NO COVENANT WITH GOD.

It is foolish to bring up PAUL, who was nothing but a PHARISEE HYPOCRITE, who LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING.

He was likely qualified to go to HELL- like the Rich Man, he should have been Spiritual enough to have attained TOTAL RECALL.

But he HATED The Law of God and God- like all the Pharisees.

. ACTS 23:6.

6. But when Paul perceived
that the one part were Sadducees,
and the other Pharisees,
he cried out in the Council,

"Men and Brethren,
I am a Pharisee,
the son of a Pharisee:
of The Hope and Resurrection
of the Dead
I am called in question."

. MATTHEW 23:1-4.

THEN Spake Jesus
to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,

2. Saying,

"The scribes and the Pharisees
sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever
they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye
after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind
heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers."

. MATTHEW 23:24-28.

24. "Ye Blind Guides,
which strain at a gnat,
and swallow a camel.
25. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
For ye make clean the outside
of the cup and of the platter,
but within they are
full of extortion and excess.
26. "Thou blind Pharisee,
cleanse first that
which is within the cup and platter,
that the outside of them
may be clean also.
27. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
For ye are like unto
whited sepulchres,
which indeed
appear beautiful outward,
but are within
full of Dead Men's Bones,
and of all uncleanness.
28. "Even so ye also
outwardly appear Righteous
unto men,
but within ye are
full of Hypocrisy and Iniquity."

PAUL LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING.

Christians who die DO NOT GAIN.

He told whatever lie he deemed necessary to divert Believers from The One True Gospel, on to Alternatives that HE KNEW would surely KILL THEM.

His goal was to COMMIT SUICIDE-BY-NERO, and induce him to MURDER all the Christians outside Paul's Pharisee jurisdiction, in the vain attempt to make Lord Yeshua manifest to him, as Paul claimed had happened to him.

This dirty trick nearly worked!

[(4 of 4) Concluded.]

BlueAngel444:
A woman lost her daughter and was wailing profusely. We find out that her loud cry wasn't just because her daughter was dead but because her daughter, a believer in Christ Jesus, committed suicide.

Efforts to comfort her that her daughter is in heaven proved futile.


Suicide is an act of killing oneself deliberately/intentional.


The six scriptures, (judges 9: 50-57, 16: 28-30; 1 sam 31:1-6; 2 sam 17:23; 1 kings 16: 18-19; matt 27:5) in the bible that say anything about suicide doesn't condemn it nor commend it.


Now my question.


Is suicide a sin?

if yes
Is it forgivable?

if yes
How does one convince this woman her daughter is in heaven or forgiven?




Pls explain, even if your answer is no, biblical explain your answer thank you.

quote author=MoR2 post=64755760] what if person use sword like saul

anyway bro deut 21:23 didn't say anyone who hangs himself o i wonder wetin you they quote sef.

whoever is hanged (likely as a punishment to a person for a crime) like jewish stoning.

so are you saying that God doesn't forgive all sins (apart from trashtalking the holy spirit) when you are a believer?

shesawesome:

From your previous thread "ask me questions" one would expect you'd have answers to this

BlueAngel444:
























Previous?

shesawesome:
Did I stutter?

BlueAngel444:

That would have been better

shesawesome:
Lol you're hilarious

BlueAngel444:


Awww, I know

shesawesome:

Anyway I'm referring to this thread https://www.nairaland.com/6149756/question-ask
I waa being sarcastic when I said this "From your previous thread 'ask me questions' one would expect you'd have answers to this" if you get the drift

BlueAngel444:
that's a new thread compared to the one we are in na

BlueAngel444:
A woman lost her daughter and was wailing profusely. We find out that her loud cry wasn't just because her daughter was dead but because her daughter, a believer in Christ Jesus, committed suicide.
Efforts to comfort her that her daughter is in heaven proved futile.
Suicide is an act of killing oneself deliberately/intentional.
The six scriptures, (judges 9: 50-57, 16: 28-30; 1 sam 31:1-6; 2 sam 17:23; 1 kings 16: 18-19; matt 27:5) in the bible that say anything about suicide doesn't condemn it nor commend it.
Now my question.
Is suicide a sin?
if yes
Is it forgivable?
if yes
How does one convince this woman her daughter is in heaven or forgiven?
Pls explain, even if your answer is no, biblical explain your answer thank you.

Matthew 5 vs 1-3 (ESV)
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1. Seeing the crowds, he went up on the mountain, and when he sat down, his disciples came to him.
2. And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying:
3. “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.