DeviIhimself:
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your culture that kills twins and so many abominations

gypsey:
Absolutely! there was never even any prove to the rethoric that African culture killed twins, only what the White man made Ignorant africans to believe.

CuteMadridista:
History is written by victors and victors that write that history would cast the losers in as bad a light as they possibly can. this achieves 2 things

1. Makes the victors to appear like noble and good people who are trying to rid of bad things

2. Make the losers appear to be bad people who deserved the loss

This is also happening right under our nose as people who want this nation to prosper are thrown in jail on trumped up charges and have their name soiled so by the time they're out of jail, the people they were fighting for would've turned on them

Look what happened when Saddam Hussein said he'll stop selling oil for dollars and accept Euros instead, the powers that be in America quickly accused him of having Weapons of mass destruction and used the press and the media to clamour for war so American people agreed with the war and after capturing the country and taking over their oil fields they couldn't get evidence of the so-called WMDs they claimed Saddam had so they turned around and claimed he "Destroyed" the WMD along with the evidence

Look what happened to Libya too when Muammar Qaddafi said he'll get Africa out of its dependence on Europeans and Americans by introducing a new gold backed currency which would be the only acceptable currency to buy oil from Africans. He was branded as evil by the powers that be and made to look worse than he was (he wasn't a saint but not as bad as he was painted), they manipulated the Libyans to revolt against his regime and he was killed. Libya has only gotten worse and worse since then

This is what happens when victors write history and these days they write it even before becoming victors as they're assured of victory

CuteMadridista:
Vaxx, what are your thoughts on this sir?

vaxx:
why do you think my contribution is important here, hope you are not doing the common mistake, people do. when they assume babalawo is the same thing as an herbalist..... Herbalism or phytotherapy is for everybody regardless of their faith or ideology. be it Christian, Muslim or even atheist....An herbalist uses plants and other natural substances to improve health, promote healing, and prevent and treat illness, i do not see how it eventually turn to balalawo. babalawo do not worship idol, i will have dive more into this statement but that is not the main bone of discussion... many people are ignorance of their own culture due to brainwashing...

But let me tell you who is a babalawo, a babalawo is a sage or a priest of an ifa oracle , who is well versed in the rituals, the lore and the history of the Yoruba Tradition/ Religion called IFA. He has become a master in the Cabalistic and ritualistic aspects of IFA. Babalawo (Baba-ni-Awo) means "Father in the knowledge of things material and spiritual." or father of mysteries while the female version is called iyanifa. the herbalist mention in the op did not state if he is a babalawo...

Besides, in critical thinking, making a choice means to know two things in depth and prefer one. And in this particular case, the herbalist only know one which the op did not mention , In other words, Christianity was not a choice for him that was the only one he knew and he took it.. Anybody who is to make a choice today must know the two and say I prefer this

Let me give you an example, when Christianity came to Africa, they were preaching in the market and in all open places, the people listing to these Christians did not even have in depth knowledge of their own culture and religion.and with a every new idea, people are less to think critical about it . they know little of their culture and religion. But these people who did not understand their own religion have learn a lot from Christianity , so they choose it in preference to their own religion . without making a choice ,They just follow blindly. In fact what is currently going on now is worst, people already have this idea that traditional ideology is evil practice. and they are unwilling to unlearn this idea due to constant chorus in the church or mosque , pagan practice is evil....

CuteMadridista:


Nice and educating. TBF I wasn't the type of person that thinks our traditional worship is worse than Christianity and I just wanted to hear your view on this topic and about how you feel when you hear people brand your type of religion evil

I think you should have a megathread like that of OtemAtum's Doctufos on your traditional belief as a way of educating people who get their stories from only one side and don't care what the other side has to say

firo08:
thanks bro. Something like this happen to me 2013 it was God that save my life. Since I vowed not to help anybody make his/her withdraw even my own mother.

vaxx:
why do you think my contribution is important here, hope you are not doing the common mistake, people do. when they assume babalawo is the same thing as an herbalist..... Herbalism or phytotherapy is for everybody regardless of their faith or ideology. be it Christian, Muslim or even atheist....An herbalist uses plants and other natural substances to improve health, promote healing, and prevent and treat illness, i do not see how it eventually turn to balalawo. babalawo do not worship idol, i will have dive more into this statement but that is not the main bone of discussion... many people are ignorance of their own culture due to brainwashing...

But let me tell you who is a babalawo, a babalawo is a sage or a priest of an ifa oracle , who is well versed in the rituals, the lore and the history of the Yoruba Tradition/ Religion called IFA. He has become a master in the Cabalistic and ritualistic aspects of IFA. Babalawo (Baba-ni-Awo) means "Father in the knowledge of things material and spiritual." or father of mysteries while the female version is called iyanifa. the herbalist mention in the op did not state if he is a babalawo...

Besides, in critical thinking, making a choice means to know two things in depth and prefer one. And in this particular case, the herbalist only know one which the op did not mention , In other words, Christianity was not a choice for him that was the only one he knew and he took it.. Anybody who is to make a choice today must know the two and say I prefer this

Let me give you an example, when Christianity came to Africa, they were preaching in the market and in all open places, the people listing to these Christians did not even have in depth knowledge of their own culture and religion.and with a every new idea, people are less to think critical about it . they know little of their culture and religion. But these people who did not understand their own religion have learn a lot from Christianity , so they choose it in preference to their own religion . without making a choice ,They just follow blindly. In fact what is currently going on now is worst, people already have this idea that traditional ideology is evil practice. and they are unwilling to unlearn this idea due to constant chorus in the church or mosque , pagan practice is evil....

moscobabs:
What bad in being fetish?

Don't just be wicked be doing good with your power and that doesn't stop u from worshipping God either in church or mosque.

Traditional has been in existence before Christ and they have been using it to heal humans .

Don't let Oyinbo to take our own culture from US.

Xisnin:

This is what you get when madness confronts a bigger madness.
An herbalist will never renounce his ways(his source of livelihood), unless
it is for the camera or he has been promised a better job.

MrPRevailer:



This is absolutely wrong. Herbalists consult evil spirits/demons/gods to solve people's problem. They might use medicinal plants, sacrifice or objects to facilitate the solution they provide.

Revelation 21:8 " But the fearful and unbelieving and abominable and whoremongers and SORCERERS and all liar shall have their part in the lake of fire which is the second death.[/color]

moscobabs:
What bad in being fetish?

Don't just be wicked be doing good with your power and that doesn't stop u from worshipping God either in church or mosque.

Traditional has been in existence before Christ and they have been using it to heal humans .

Don't let Oyinbo to take our own culture from US.

vaxx:
why do you think my contribution is important here, hope you are not doing the common mistake, people do. when they assume babalawo is the same thing as an herbalist..... Herbalism or phytotherapy is for everybody regardless of their faith or ideology. be it Christian, Muslim or even atheist....An herbalist uses plants and other natural substances to improve health, promote healing, and prevent and treat illness, i do not see how it eventually turn to balalawo. babalawo do not worship idol, i will have dive more into this statement but that is not the main bone of discussion... many people are ignorance of their own culture due to brainwashing...

But let me tell you who is a babalawo, a babalawo is a sage or a priest of an ifa oracle , who is well versed in the rituals, the lore and the history of the Yoruba Tradition/ Religion called IFA. He has become a master in the Cabalistic and ritualistic aspects of IFA. Babalawo (Baba-ni-Awo) means "Father in the knowledge of things material and spiritual." or father of mysteries while the female version is called iyanifa. the herbalist mention in the op did not state if he is a babalawo...

Besides, in critical thinking, making a choice means to know two things in depth and prefer one. And in this particular case, the herbalist only know one which the op did not mention , In other words, Christianity was not a choice for him that was the only one he knew and he took it.. Anybody who is to make a choice today must know the two and say I prefer this

Let me give you an example, when Christianity came to Africa, they were preaching in the market and in all open places, the people listing to these Christians did not even have in depth knowledge of their own culture and religion.and with a every new idea, people are less to think critical about it . they know little of their culture and religion. But these people who did not understand their own religion have learn a lot from Christianity , so they choose it in preference to their own religion . without making a choice ,They just follow blindly. In fact what is currently going on now is worst, people already have this idea that traditional ideology is evil practice. and they are unwilling to unlearn this idea due to constant chorus in the church or mosque , pagan practice is evil....

moscobabs:
What bad in being fetish?

Don't just be wicked be doing good with your power and that doesn't stop u from worshipping God either in church or mosque.

Traditional has been in existence before Christ and they have been using it to heal humans .

Don't let Oyinbo to take our own culture from US.

engwari:
Last week Wednesday, a lady entered one chance car and was dispossessed of all that was with her. They drove her to an unknown location, collected her ATM card and demanded for the pin which she gave them for fear of her life. They didn't release her yet. They held her while one of them drove to the town to withdraw through ATM machine. They threatened her that if the pin she gave is wrong, that will be the end of her life.

The one that went to withdraw the money met a very long queue. He cunningly went to an innocent man on the queue and begged him to help him withdraw. He gave the innocent man the stolen ATM CARD and the pin and stood off where he is sure the bank camera doesn't cover. The innocent ignorant man thought he was helping someone but never knew he was exposing himself to crime. He withdrew his own and then withdrew for the one chance man too and gave him the money.

Immediately the one chance man came back to his group, they now freed the lady and disappeared into thin air.

The next day, the lady went to her bank to report the incident and to block her ATM card. Her Bank sent email to the bank where I work because our Bank ATM machine was used to make the withdrawal, requesting that we should send them the cctv footage of the person that made the withdrawal. My bank sent the footage to them and the account details of the innocent man that made the withdrawals because the innocent man has account with us. That was how an innocent man was trailed, traced and arrested while no picture of the kidnapper was captured anywhere. Now I'm wondering how on earth he will convince SARS operatives that he only helped a stranger to make withdrawal. Remember, the place on the queue where the one chance man gave him the card has no CCTV coverage because the kidnapper made sure he wasn't covered by camera.

Please friends, when you are in the ATM queue and a stranger approaches you with his card to help him make withdrawal, please don't ever try it. You don't know whether it is a stolen card and the person is trying to avoid the CCTV cameras. Some of them use pregnant women so that you will pity them or aged men so that you will pity them or fake Corp members who will come with the excuse that he is rushing for CDS or whatever. Don't ever withdraw money for anyone. Let everyone make his or her own withdrawal. Don't allow yourself to be the Face of a crime you know nothing about.

Be Guided!

Thank you!

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