temmyz16:
even if he killed himself,since God is the all knowing God,he would have known he would end up like that.cus he was to play the role of the villain.hes not to be blamed then.
it might not be real though

Rayreezy:


Sincerely, I see Zero Meaning in what you just said.

That God Created Judas to betray Jesus, and then he is being condemned for it, and you are here talking of repentance.

Even the bible confused us;

Matthew 27:3–10 says that Judas returned the money to the priests and committed suicide by hanging himself. They used it to buy the potter's field. The Gospel account presents this as a fulfillment of prophecy.[12].

Then Acts 1:18–19 says that Judas himself used the money to buy a field.

crazysaint:
As usual today people will cry, wail, curse Judas Iscariot for betraying our Lord Jesus christ

To me i don't think Judas Iscariot deserves any blame for betraying Jesus christ.

As Christians we know that the primary purpose of our Lord Jesus christ on earth was to save mankind. Before Jesus christ came into the world, God has past through the prophets of old to prophecy about his coming, not just his coming but the manner he will be betrayed and slain.

Before i go further let me take you to Bible portions that foretold the betrayal,suffering, and death of our Lord Jesus christ.

Psalm 41:9, King David wrote a prayer asking for mercy in his last days. In this prayer, which Christians acknowledge as being inspired by God, David wrote about a betrayal at the hand of a close friend with whom he had shared bread.
This foreshadowed something that happened years later with Jesus. As explained in Matthew 26:47-50, Jesus was betrayed by Judas, one of the 12 apostles, shortly after Jesus and the apostles had shared bread during the Last Supper. Jesus was crucified by the Romans a short time later.


Zechariah 11:4-17, the prophet speaks of a payment involving 30 pieces of silver and of a good shepherd whose service is brought to an end.

This foreshadows an event that happened to Jesus about 500 years later.
As explained in Matthew 26:15, Judas was paid 30 silver coins for his betrayal of Jesus. Judas told the Romans when and where they could arrest Jesus without being surrounded by a large crowd of Jesus' followers.

Isaiah 53:7, the prophet said that the servant would be afflicted and accused, and that he would remain silent like a lamb being led to slaughter.

As explained in Matthew 27:12-14, which was recorded about 700 years after the time of Isaiah, this is what happened to Jesus. He was falsely accused but remained silent and did not protest the accusations. Jesus was crucified by the Romans a short time later.


In Isaiah 53:4-6, prophet described a servant as being punished for the sins of others, and that others would be healed by the wounds of this person. As explained in the New Testament such as in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John Jesus was crucified for our sins, and he was sinless.


I can go on an on, but let me stop there.

In my opinion i don't think Judas deserve any blame, he was acting his part. it was the fulfilment of the prophecy.


If Judas didn't do that, where would we have been today.

Please pardon any blunder spotted.

EarthXmetahuman:
god knows the beginning and the end.
he knows if judas will repent or not from the beginning. heck, he programmed how judas will spend his life on earth when he was creating him.

judas can only guilty of anything if you are saying god doesn't know the beginning or the end.

EarthXmetahuman:
god knows the beginning and the end.
he knows if judas will repent or not from the beginning. heck, he programmed how judas will spend his life on earth when he was creating him.

judas can only guilty of anything if you are saying god doesn't know the beginning or the end.

TheLordIsGr8:


Shame on you for displaying your crass ignorance.

If you disputed the Christian interpretation of Jesus's death it would make a good conversation.

But the historical records never disputed the existence of Jesus.

Shame on you once again.

edward1106:


If he programmed us, den why would some have to go to hell and some heaven? Is it his making? Or our choice?
And I hope you know what is programmed obeys instruction perfectly unless you want to say something else about our God.

Rayreezy:


Sincerely, I see Zero Meaning in what you just said.

That God Created Judas to betray Jesus, and then he is being condemned for it, and you are here talking of repentance.

Even the bible confused us;

Matthew 27:3–10 says that Judas returned the money to the priests and committed suicide by hanging himself. They used it to buy the potter's field. The Gospel account presents this as a fulfillment of prophecy.[12].

Then Acts 1:18–19 says that Judas himself used the money to buy a field.

isaacola57:
if God programmed everything there wont be atheists, the whole world would be saints,
thr is something called free will.God didnt know Adam and eve would eat d forbidden fruit because he didnt wst to know,

EarthXmetahuman:
you are not get it.

Lemme break it down for you.

Let's say I create a computer programme for one purpose, to browse the Internet. The app won't do anything else than browse the Internet.
I didn't create a random programme and wonder how it will turn out.
Now this is just human limited knowledge. Not god with unlimited knowledge.


God created Judas for one thing, to betray Jesus, Judas won't do anything else than betray Jesus cos Judas is not a random human.

Same for every humans on earth. God has a purpose and a plan for everyone.
He knows how you will turn out cos he created you that way. Just like I won't create a browser and expect it to work like music player, he created human and give each one his/her own attribute.
He is also omniscient, which means, he knows you will turn to be atheist or freethinker before he even gather the dirt to create you.

So your so called "freewill" will be based on what he has predestined you to be. All your freewill decision will only lead you to fulfilling his purpose cos he is never wrong.

So the idea of free will is void.


Do you get it now?

EarthXmetahuman:
you are not get it.

Lemme break it down for you.

Let's say I create a computer programme for one purpose, to browse the Internet. The app won't do anything else than browse the Internet.
I didn't create a random programme and wonder how it will turn out.
Now this is just human limited knowledge. Not god with unlimited knowledge.


God created Judas for one thing, to betray Jesus, Judas won't do anything else than betray Jesus cos Judas is not a random human.

Same for every humans on earth. God has a purpose and a plan for everyone.
He knows how you will turn out cos he created you that way. Just like I won't create a browser and expect it to work like music player, he created human and give each one his/her own attribute.
He is also omniscient, which means, he knows you will turn to be atheist or freethinker before he even gather the dirt to create you.

So your so called "freewill" will be based on what he has predestined you to be. All your freewill decision will only lead you to fulfilling his purpose cos he is never wrong.

So the idea of free will is void.


Do you get it now?

EarthXmetahuman:
gbam

God had a plan for Judas, the plan was to betray Jesus, why blame and castigate him for carrying out gods plan.


Same for everyone on earth. according to bible, God has plans for everyone, and he knows the beginning and the end. That means, it's absloutely unfair to judge everyone that became atheist, or unbeliever or whatever.

It would be unfair or even make god a psychotic being if he throws Judas in hell for simply carrying out his plan.

tamethem:


I guess as you were typing all this your discorveries there were some green bottles that have been butchered in front of you.

Agrogbeide:
OK. What I understand from here is that some people can't get rich even if they work harder and follow all the principles of wealth making diligently, Africa will remain the way it is no matter the struggle, some people will still be unemployed for life even if they have a good grade and qualified for a job etc.

And you that post this comment will ever remain the
same because that is the way you were born and it is your destiny. That means no more upliftment and promotion and good things for you. Lol! What a wasted life.

Please don't get upset and stop comparing yourself to computer.

Man has FREEWILL and you can do with it whatever pleases you. Even you know when it is time to cut a break as when in comes to parental decision making and you are here falling my hand.

SALVATION THAT COMES THROUGH JESUS CHRIST IS NOT BY FORCE and that's why you are here not been born again doing whatever you like. If it is not FREEWILL everybody would have been saints automatically.

Even JESUS CHRIST HAD FREEWILL(Matthew 25:40-45) but won't allow His FREEWILL come before SALVATION.

PLEASE OGA BE BORN AGAIN O.

I LOVE YOU.

bolafez:
I think one of the main reasons Christan blame Judas is, he never repented of which he had time to repent. He was destined to betray Jesus but he wasn't destined to end up in hell. Peter betrayed Jesus thrice and yet the church was built on him simply because he repented.
Repentance is what brings God's mercy to mankind and not taking a shortcut by committing suicide.

Largas:
thank you very much.

i don't think judas deserves to be in hell or be hated because God just designed him to be the unfortunate one that will be used to act the prophecies he gave to his prophets in the old testament.

so why resent and "hell" an innocent man whom played perfectly, the role you had destined for him before his birth.

abeggi Christians.

OSUigbo:
Confused sets of people.

I don't think they understand or believe in the concept of destiny.

Same Christians ;

Some believe that he is God

Some believe he is just the son of God

Some believe that he is both.

Some of the foolish things I still can't comprehend.

1) The story of the flat earth
2) The story of the tower of BABEL
3) The story of how Satan took Jesus (their God) to a high mountain and showed/promised him the whole world if....

All this illogical fuckeries could never have come from the REAL God's inspiration..

Prettyyemi:
If judas hadn't done it,another person would have been...
He allowed himself to be deceived because of money..
Judas has always had a special love for money..
He was d treasurer then,..
But he always stole money from d purse..
So d devil used that to his advantage...

post=66286717:

Men die for lack of knowledge.

UnclePrincipal:

I am tired of reading this. it shows you don't read your bible.
Jesus knows beforehand that judas was the one chosen to betrayed him. so what do you mean another person will do it? are you saying the all- knowing Jesus don't know what he's saying?
and why are you Christians always saying judas had a love for money. yes, judas love money. That's his weakness. Guess what, all the other disciples also have their weaknesses even if the Bible didn't mention it. We're all humans, we have our weaknesses. So i think God is to be blamed for using Jusdas weakness against him. Stop blaming Humans for the imperfections of a God. Com'on christians

UnclePrincipal:
God is the only father that is perfect...u are talking based on ignorance,no need arguing with u!!!
I am tired of reading this. it shows you don't read your bible.
Jesus knows beforehand that judas was the one chosen to betrayed him. so what do you mean another person will do it? are you saying the all- knowing Jesus don't know what he's saying?
and why are you Christians always saying judas had a love for money. yes, judas love money. That's his weakness. Guess what, all the other disciples also have their weaknesses even if the Bible didn't mention it. We're all humans, we have our weaknesses. So i think God is to be blamed for using Jusdas weakness against him. Stop blaming Humans for the imperfections of a God. Com'on christians

Prettyyemi:
I AM IGNORANT AND I HAVE DECIDED TO BE IGNORANT NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE TELL ME

Largas:
thank you very much.

i don't think judas deserves to be in hell or be hated because God just designed him to be the unfortunate one that will be used to act the prophecies he gave to his prophets in the old testament.

so why resent and "hell" an innocent man whom played perfectly, the role you had destined for him before his birth.

abeggi Christians.

bahaushe1:


You make sense. The story of Adam (AS) and Satan.

Adam (AS) accepted full responsibility for disobeying Allaah and sought forgiveness. And he was forgiven.

When Satan was questioned for disobeying Allaah, he tried to justify his act instead of seeking forgiveness.

UnclePrincipal:


Alright, now i see why you can't give a reasonable explanation to support yourself.

thatigboman:
shame on you for being so gullible.
Did u watch the news today? Your jesus country, isrrali army killed 10 unarmed palentianians today for protesting the occupation.

Ferisidowu:


Lolx exactly,,, you already condemning yourself as a matter of fact.. You'd better be preparing to roast in hell.... You might be destined for it lolx....

Man is as useless as dead matter and ought to be roasted lol