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Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Gerrard59(m): 9:41pm On May 07, 2018
yusman14:
how can sum1 chamge frm phy 2 social sciences..d olevel sef dnt correspond..bro smal smal na

It's possible. Depending on the school. Seen people did same from Food and Nutrition to Theatre Arts.
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by yusman14(m): 10:25pm On May 07, 2018
Gerrard59:


It's possible. Depending on the school. Seen people did same from Food and Nutrition to Theatre Arts.
am just hearing it 4 d 1st tym...how wil d person now cope..bcause e avnt undergo d basic subjects in high school.
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by yusman14(m): 10:27pm On May 07, 2018
Gerrard59:


It's possible. Depending on the school. Seen people did same from Food and Nutrition to Theatre Arts.
am just hearing it 4 d 1st tym...how wil d person now cope..bcause e/she avnt undergo d basic subjects in high school.
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by salford1: 3:32am On May 08, 2018
yusman14:
am just hearing it 4 d 1st tym...how wil d person now cope..bcause e avnt undergo d basic subjects in high school.
I do not know what uni you went to, or if you have even gained admissions at all because transfers are common. I graduated from OAU 12 to 13 years ago, and it was common back then for people that can't cope with Sciences or Engineering transfer to Economics, Geography, Demography and other social science courses, except it is not allowed anymore.

General O' level requirements for the alot of social science courses are English, Maths, Geopraphy, Economics etc These are courses which almost every science student sat for in WAEC or NECO.

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Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Nobody: 12:26pm On May 08, 2018
Gaddafithe2nd:

Wow! that is nice. I applied for the 2018 programme. I hope they select me for the programme.

They will select you if you got good grades and show strong motivation. Also, recommendations from your referees matter a lot. I wish you success
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 12:30pm On May 08, 2018
hostine316:


They will select you if you got good grades and show strong motivation. Also, recommendations from your referees matter a lot. I wish you success
Thank you very much.
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Oxmen(m): 2:39pm On May 08, 2018
am a graduate from Lautech in department of Pure and applied physics. as a physicist, have it in mind that you can work any were you can think of. there is a specific requirement of an employment in every organization and you fit it as a physicist but depending on your area of specialization. medical physics in hospital, Geophysics in oil and Gas industries, physics electronics in communication companies, mathematical and analytical physics in banks and the likes.
as a physicist, I did my IT in a bank as an IT Support on a project in all south west branch of 1st bank on FINACLE10.
I have work as a surveillance officer in communication company and now working as a Data Analyst in Supply chain and Logistic company with Pebnic Venture.
be a physicist is beyond being a teacher at the end. every thing start form 100 level and have a good CGPA at the end of 500L.

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Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by preciousnobel(m): 5:11pm On May 08, 2018
Oxmen:
am a graduate from Lautech in department of Pure and applied physics. as a physicist, have it in mind that you can work any were you can think of. there is a specific requirement of an employment in every organization and you fit it as a physicist but depending on your area of specialization. medical physics in hospital, Geophysics in oil and Gas industries, physics electronics in communication companies, mathematical and analytical physics in banks and the likes.
as a physicist, I did my IT in a bank as an IT Support on a project in all south west branch of 1st bank on FINACLE10.
I have work as a surveillance officer in communication company and now working as a Data Analyst in Supply chain and Logistic company with Pebnic Venture.
be a physicist is beyond being a teacher at the end. every thing start form 100 level and have a good CGPA at the end of 500L.

What is your job description as a data analyst?

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Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Dasherz(f): 6:22pm On May 08, 2018
crafteck:



Una neva tire for excuses, i finished with 2nd class upper from uni, never searched for job, researched playstation installation bypass and holes, i see like 40k most days, stop being a lazy youth

Kudos to you for what you do

But Playstation is not a scientific experiment... We live in a country where research and project works are being dumped in the gutter by same professionals in institutions

Being a physicist is not a bad thing but it is pure science and #100,000 is chicken change to fund a world acknowledged research which is very different from sitting in front of a laptop browsing what people put up there with a data subscription of 1k.... It's much more

He needs to be employed at least to save enough to fund his research to a state where people can be interested in if it works.. Not forgetting the losses that will be accumulated due to trial and error


So no one is making excuses here
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by crafteck(m): 7:33pm On May 08, 2018
Dasherz:


Kudos to you for what you do

But Playstation is not a scientific experiment... We live in a country where research and project works are being dumped in the gutter by same professionals in institutions

Being a physicist is not a bad thing but it is pure science and #100,000 is chicken change to fund a world acknowledged research which is very different from sitting in front of a laptop browsing what people put up there with a data subscription of 1k.... It's much more

He needs to be employed at least to save enough to find his research to a state where people can be interested in if it works.. Not forgetting the losses that will be accumulated due to trial and error


So no one is making excuses here

Little beginnings can make wonderful ends, there are many things you can work on, doesnt have to be physics, the essence of education is gaining the ability to learn how to learn, stroll to mechanic shops, look at devices that can be modified, people here build transformers, repair auto compressors and alternators, pls lets leave excuses
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Cj4charles(m): 7:40pm On May 08, 2018
JAMO4REAL1:
science student now, {kosewe kosegbo} continued to miss chemical for guys in street bcus for now APC no gv employment
***** This Is The Real Job Suitable For Physicians
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by yusman14(m): 9:45pm On May 08, 2018
salford1:

I do not know what uni you went to, or if you have even gained admissions at all because transfers are common. I graduated from OAU 12 to 13 years ago, and it was common back then for people that can't cope with Sciences or Engineering transfer to Economics, Geography, Demography and other social science courses, except it is not allowed anymore.

General O' level requirements for the alot of social science courses are English, Maths, Geopraphy, Economics etc These are courses which almost every science student sat for in WAEC or NECO.
..lol actually am in OAU(100l) but transfers ar not dat common again..

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Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Dasherz(f): 9:56pm On May 08, 2018
crafteck:


Little beginnings can make wonderful ends, there are many things you can work on, doesnt have to be physics, the essence of education is gaining the ability to learn how to learn, stroll to mechanic shops, look at devices that can be modified, people here build transformers, repair auto compressors and alternators, pls lets leave excuses
Not disputing that... So many things do need modifications but he's not just gonna pop up and start modifying things hell need finances... My point is he needs to get a sustainable source of income to be able to fund his research and patterns... That's all no excuses

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Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Crafteck1: 10:53pm On May 08, 2018
A friend of mine runs 2 businesses , he started 1 with about 4m,it returns 15k per day average, he still has the assets worth 3m,18 mikano gen etc included, he runs a second business based on innovation, no capital or maybe 80k max to start, he sees about 1.2m per month, we need more innovative youths, things are bad in the country, turn around and use it to your freaking advantage.

Using another account cos i was just banned


Dasherz:

Not disputing that... So many things do need modifications but he's not just gonna pop up and start modifying things hell need finances... My point is he needs to get a sustainable source of income to be able to fund his research and patterns... That's all no excuses
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by salford1: 2:55am On May 09, 2018
yusman14:
..lol actually am in OAU(100l) but transfers ar not dat common again..
Nice. Goodluck in your academics. The secret of doing well in OAU is so start strong from year one. After year one, it becomes hard to build cgpa.
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by lucia6: 10:57am On May 09, 2018
There are uncountable career opportunities in studying physics, some of the opportunities are: Accelerator physics, Acoustics, Agro Physics, Bio physics, Chemical physics, Communication physics, Econo physics, Engineering Physics, Geophysics, Laser Physics, Material Physics, Medical physics, Nanotechnology just to mention a few. (compiled from Essential Physics Secondary school Textbook page 2.)
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Dasherz(f): 11:38am On May 09, 2018
Crafteck1:
A friend of mine runs 2 businesses , he started 1 with about 4m,it returns 15k per day average, he still has the assets worth 3m,18 mikano gen etc included, he runs a second business based on innovation, no capital or maybe 80k max to start, he sees about 1.2m per month, we need more innovative youths, things are bad in the country, turn around and use it to your freaking advantage.

Using another account cos i was just banned


All Am am seeing are figures that don't add to my POV.. Take care
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by yusman14(m): 10:11pm On May 09, 2018
salford1:

Nice. Goodluck in your academics. The secret of doing well in OAU is so start strong from year one. After year one, it becomes hard to build cgpa.
yea..i learnt dat 2day during d orientation..am MSE fresher in faculty of tech...can i knw d course u studied??
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by yusman14(m): 10:16pm On May 09, 2018
lucia6:
There are uncountable career opportunities in studying physics, some of the opportunities are: Accelerator physics, Acoustics, Agro Physics, Bio physics, Chemical physics, Communication physics, Econo physics, Engineering Physics, Geophysics, Laser Physics, Material Physics, Medical physics, Nanotechnology just to mention a few. (compiled from Essential Physics Secondary school Textbook page 2.)
physician dnt du more of nanotech..biomaterials engineers and materials engineers du more of it..in d nezt few years alot of pple wil diversify to dis aspect of technology bcause its interestin and lucrative
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by laudate: 3:14pm On May 10, 2018
Jman06:
You are the ignorant one here! Why do you keep deviating from your earlier stance that a project manager would earn higher than a pharmacist in a pharmaceutical firm Remember that was your initial submission.

And for your information, Pharmacy as a business is not like every other business just anybody can venture into. It is highly regulated and if you are in doubt, educate yourself about what it takes to open a pharmaceutical company.

In public service, medical doctors earn higher than pharmacists, I'm not disputing that. The reason for that is why JOHESU is on strike today. Even at that an entry level pharmacist in public hospitals is placed from CONHESS 9 which is from 170k.

In the private sector, more pharmacists earn better than medical doctors. Even when they work for other pharmacists in community pharmacies, they earn better than their medical doctor friends because their salaries are regulated by P.C.N. Many private clinics don't pay medical doctors above 50k. I know many working in private clinics who earn 50k per month.
Then now compare full fledged pharmacists who have established their own businesses with even consultant medical doctors, the pharmacists earn far better. Not to talk about those who are into manufacturing, importation or distribution.

Now what is even the job prospects of your so called project manager, how many of them are employed and by who??
Please just do a Google search on "Project management in the pharmaceutical industry." You will see a lot of info concerning that aspect of the pharma industry.

Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by laudate: 3:18pm On May 10, 2018
Jman06:
You obviously don't know much about the CONHESS salary structure. Entry level pharmacists in public hospitals are placed on CONHESS 9 and that is 170k plus allowances in some cases. Go find out.

If know a pharmacist who owns a community pharmacy, find out his DAILY sales and then do the math and see for yourself what his monthly income stands at.

Thank you!

A consultant project manager, can handle just one project for a pharmaceutical manufacturing firm, and collect millions in just one project as consultancy fees. undecided That amount could exceed more than what a pharmacist makes as daily sales in 3 months.
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Jman06(m): 3:28pm On May 10, 2018
laudate:

Please just do a Google search on "Project management in the pharmaceutical industry." You will see a lot of info concerning that aspect of the pharma industry.
There's no need for a google search because I have worked with the biggest pharmaceutical manufacturing company in Nigeria and there was no such position as "project manager" in the company. Pharmacists are trained to have enough managerial skills and in the pharmaceutical industry, the quality assurance manager (a pharmacist) usually has knowledge of project management in a pharmaceutical industry.
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Jman06(m): 3:37pm On May 10, 2018
laudate:


A consultant project manager, can handle just one project for a pharmaceutical manufacturing firm, and collect millions in just one project as consultancy fees. undecided That amount could exceed more than what a pharmacist makes as daily sales in 3 months.
Unless the pharmaceutical industry is not a full fledged one. A fully established pharmaceutical industry usually has a quality assurance manager ( Usually a pharmacist) who has knowledge of cGMP. Knowledge of cGMP is very important in carrying out any project in a pharmaceutical industry because it encompasses quality assurance. Therefore, you cannot go and employ just anybody because they are graduates of project management into such position. So, a pharmacist or chemist with knowledge of project management and cGMP is usually employed.

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Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by anigbajumo(m): 7:11am On May 11, 2018
pooozeee:
You are studying one of the best course ever in the world, even in Nigeria, don't be discouraged and make sure you have either a 1st class or 2:1 out of the university then I can assure you, you are fit to work anywhere even in the oil company

I studied physics too and I graduated several years ago, I have been working in the Telecommunication company, I do a lot of things, I also have many friends who studied physics and are working in mtn, Etisalat and Glo......

don't listen to any bad comment about physics posted here.... people with bad comment here are ignorant about physics, they always think physicist end up being a teacher this is bcus they don't no anything about the course

all I need you to do is to be focus and determined and make sure you have a very good grade, just 1st class or 2:1 is enough

if you wish to choose telecommunication line just like I did then my advice is this

when you are serving (NYSC) register for CCNA go for the ccna lectures and write the exam if you pass then I can assure you, a job in any telecommunication company or even bank is certain

you can do CCNP, CWNA, CWNP ITIL and so on,

trust, you are very fine studying physics, you will be competing with electrical / electronics student

Wat a good advice.Pls,wea can one go for CCNA lecture,can u pls explain better about CCNP, CWNA, CWNP and ITIL?
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by laudate: 9:26am On May 11, 2018
Jman06:
There's no need for a google search because I have worked with the biggest pharmaceutical manufacturing company in Nigeria and there was no such position as "project manager" in the company. Pharmacists are trained to have enough managerial skills and in the pharmaceutical industry, the quality assurance manager (a pharmacist) usually has knowledge of project management in a pharmaceutical industry.
Jman06:
Unless the pharmaceutical industry is not a full fledged one. A fully established pharmaceutical industry usually has a quality assurance manager ( Usually a pharmacist) who has knowledge of cGMP. Knowledge of cGMP is very important in carrying out any project in a pharmaceutical industry because it encompasses quality assurance. Therefore, you cannot go and employ just anybody because they are graduates of project management into such position. So, a pharmacist or chemist with knowledge of project management and cGMP is usually employed.

There are different types of projects carried out within the pharmaceutical industry, by various pharmaceutical firms, and in the course of a project, scientists from different disciplines (like biologists, chemists etc) are brought together to handle a project, not just pharmacists. sad If you recall my previous post, the friend I spoke about actually studied biology (i.e. specialising in molecular biology), before taking courses in project management and joining a pharmaceutical company.

So are you saying it is only pharmacists that are allowed to have a knowledge of cGMP? Other scientists from other natural and applied scientists are not allowed to have a knowledge of cGMP? undecided

I am not downplaying the importance of a pharmacist, but you really need to realise that people from different disciplines, work within the pharmaceutical industry and they all contribute to the success of their organisation and development of products and services, within the industry. Depending on their disciplines, and the expertise they bring on board, such people can earn as much as pharmacists or even higher, within the context in which they operate.

Complexity of project management in the pharmaceutical industry : by Pattanaik, Asima (2014) | Paper presented at PMI® Global Congress 2014—EMEA, Dubai, United Arab Emirates. Newtown Square, PA: Project Management Institute.

Driving a product to the market safely, quickly, and cheaply is the best way for a pharmaceutical (pharma) firm to be successful. Pharmaceutical companies encounter enormous challenges during the long product-development process. Today's fast-paced competition requires efficiency in all aspects of business. The identification of risks at the right stage and an effective mitigation plan are key factors for success, both financially and technically.

The complex drug-development process from lab to launch includes management of several business processes, such as technical development using quality by design, regulatory strategy, clinical studies, and supply chain.

The pharmaceutical industry also has its own obstacles to profitability. Higher “first to market” competition in developing generic drugs, more stringent regulatory requirements, and increasing research and development R & 'D costs for innovative new drugs force the industry to restructure the strategies to reduce the internal costs.

In general, it takes 10 to 15 years and researching approximately 10,000 molecules to launch one new product to the market. The activities during this period need coordination between many internal functional groups, such as R & D , regulatory, legal, finance, supply chain, sales, and marketing, as well as external partners. The efficiency in coordination between different functional groups is crucial.

As the pharma industry learns the importance of focusing on a single product while developing multiple products in parallel, the use of project management strategies is becoming more and more popular. Inherent risks in every stage of the science of developing a new product need to be managed effectively.

The integration of risk management into product development is the key to reducing time and cost. As the level of information increases with multiple possible scenarios during the life cycle of product development, the decision-making process becomes more complex. In other industries, project management takes greater responsibility in managing risks and implementing the risk-mitigation plan.

As the level of information increases with multiple possible scenarios, during the life cycle of product development, the decision-making process becomes more complex. In other industries, project management takes greater responsibility in managing risks and implementing the risk-mitigation plan.
https://www.pmi.org/learning/library/project-management-complexity-pharmaceutical-industry-1487
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Jman06(m): 9:54am On May 11, 2018
laudate:


There are different types of projects carried out in the pharmaceutical industry, by various pharmaceutical firms, and in the course of a project, scientists from different disciplines (like biologists, chemists etc) are brought together to handle a project, not just pharmacists. sad If you recall my previous post, the friend I spoke about actually studied biology (i.e. specialising in molecular biology), before taking courses in project management and joining a pharmaceutical company.

So are you saying it is only pharmacists that are allowed to have a knowledge of cGMP? Other scientists from other natural and applied scientists are not allowed to have a knowledge of cGMP? undecided
Your friend might have been employed with her degree in biology to play a different role in the company, not as a project manager. I'm typing about knowledge of the cGMP as it relates to pharmaceutical manufacturing. cGMP is employed in all other manufacturing processes, not only pharmaceutical manufacturing. Yes, for you to manage most projects in pharmaceutical manufacturing industry, you have got to have knowledge of the industry first and then knowledge of cGMP and possibly HSE, and as such it is only a pharmacist or at worst a chemist who has the aforementioned knowledge that is better suited for that position. That is why a pharmaceutical industry would employ such person as the quality assurance manager. For those projects that require experts from other disciplines, the quality assurance manager will then have to consult outside his establishment for such expertise.
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by laudate: 10:02am On May 11, 2018
Jman06:
Your friend might have been employed with her degree in biology to play a different role in the company, not as a project manager. I'm typing about knowledge of the cGMP as it relates to pharmaceutical manufacturing. cGMP is employed in all other manufacturing processes, not only pharmaceutical manufacturing. Yes, for you to manage most projects in pharmaceutical manufacturing industry, you have got to have knowledge of the industry first and then knowledge of cGMP and possibly HSE, and as such it is only a pharmacist or at worst a chemist who has the aforementioned knowledge that is better suited for that position. That is why a pharmaceutical industry would employ such person as the quality assurance manager. For those projects that require experts from other disciplines, the quality assurance manager will then have to consult outside his establishment for such expertise.

Guy, she was employed as a project management officer. I saw her letter of offer on the day she got the job. wink If you don't accept it, oga you can argue with your keyboard.

There are different types of projects going on within the pharmaceutical sector. undecided A pharmaceutical firm may want to enhance or improve its logistics and distribution method, in order to save costs or reduce waste. Do they need a pharmacist to manage that sort of project, from start to finish, when he could be using his skills elsewhere? It is more likely that a logistics expert would be called in. sad

If a pharmaceutical firm wants to carry out a project to improve environmental safety within its premises, would the management deploy a pharmacist to do so? It is likely they would use another scientist with expertise in this field. undecided

In a project team, people drawn from different disciplines make up the team members, not just pharmacists only.
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Jman06(m): 10:33am On May 11, 2018
laudate:


Guy, she was employed as a project management officer. I saw her letter of offer on the day she got the job. wink If you don't accept it, oga you can argue with your keyboard.

There are different types of projects going on within the pharmaceutical sector. undecided A pharmaceutical firm may want to enhance or improve its logistics and distribution method, in order to save costs or reduce waste. Do they need a pharmacist to manage that sort of project, from start to finish, when he could be using his skills elsewhere? It is more likely that a logistics expert would be called in. sad

If a pharmaceutical firm wants to carry out a project to improve environmental safety within its premises, would the management deploy a pharmacist to do so? It is likely they would use another scientist with expertise in this field. undecided

In a project team, people drawn from different disciplines make up the team members, not just pharmacists only.

I haven't implied that it is the pharmacist only that works in the pharmaceutical industry, but there's no need for any project manager, when I have my quality assurance manager who can consult a logistics expert or environmental management expert to execute such projects and at the same time contributing his knowledge on cGMP in the project.
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by laudate: 10:43am On May 11, 2018
Jman06:
I haven't implied that it is the pharmacist only that works in the pharmaceutical industry, but there's no need for any project manager, when I have my quality assurance manager who can consult a logistics expert or environmental management expert to execute such projects and at the same time contributing his knowledge on cGMP in the project.

Guy, you want to keep arguing in order to prove a point that has been debunked. Can a pharmacist know more about the logistics industry, than a logistics expert who trained for that role? Stop mixing up cGMP with pure logistics, please.
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by Jman06(m): 10:50am On May 11, 2018
laudate:


Guy, you want to keep arguing in order to prove a point that has been debunked. Can a pharmacist know more about the logistics industry, than a logistics expert who trained for that role? Stop mixing up cGMP with pure logistics, please.
We'll consult a logistics expert when the need be not a so called "Project manager".
Re: What Is The Hope Of Physics Students After Graduation? by laudate: 10:53am On May 11, 2018
Jman06:
We'll consult a logistics expert when the need be not a so called "Project manager".
So the fact that a non-pharmacist was employed as a project manager in a pharmaceutical company, is still paining you? Ok, try and get well soon!

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