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Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by ALCOHOLKILLS(m): 11:53am On May 13, 2018
Omooba77:


Luke 6:38

I am not against given, but giving to already rich man of God is what I am against..... Thquote


Luke 6:38 says

Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

It never said give it to your church nor your already rich pastors but to the poor and the needy

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Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by Omooba77: 11:55am On May 13, 2018
ALCOHOLKILLS:


I am not against given, but giving to already rich man of God is what I am against..... Thquote


Luke 6:38 says

Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

It never said give it to your church nor your already rich pastors but to the poor and the needy

Luke 8:1-3...Jesus was given to
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by ALCOHOLKILLS(m): 12:02pm On May 13, 2018
Omooba77:


Luke 8:1-3...Jesus was given to

Are you using a different bible lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

What has Luke 8 1-3 got to do with the issue at hand


8:1 And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him,8:2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,8:3 And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by phanshark(m): 12:02pm On May 13, 2018
its mostly because the needs hv increase in this days and some are doing it for rivalry
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by Nobody: 12:03pm On May 13, 2018
lifezone247:
And less noise about receiving.
Blessed is the hand that giveth, than the hand that receiveth.
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by Nobody: 12:05pm On May 13, 2018
ojun50:
People are broke
infact am Broke i need somtin to survived dis week.

Help a broda
God bless u has u touch a life today nd dis week.
3024742288 first bank
Sent 5k

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Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by Nedfed(m): 12:23pm On May 13, 2018
omojesu202:
Na everyday be mothers day


No!
But I think is always celebrate in Nigeria every month grin

Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by parissaint(m): 12:29pm On May 13, 2018
lilbest4:
I don't pay tithe and (or) offering because most of those pastors are far richer than me. I do assist people I'm richer than in any way I can in fact my girlfriend even complain that I help too much.

Don't tell me any stuff like "you are giving to God not your pastor" I am giving it to the pastor unless you give me God's account number.


Are U Givin To Ur Pastorz Or God??..
Ignorance Wil Jt Ruin U,be Readn Ur Bible Na..
Nt Insultn U O,jt Sayn My Mind
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by Jaytecq(m): 12:32pm On May 13, 2018
omojesu202:
Na everyday be mothers day
me myself tire
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by Nobody: 12:37pm On May 13, 2018
Help Me Please I Need 20k For My Project Fee And I Promise Am Not Lying Pls
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by Nobody: 12:58pm On May 13, 2018
parissaint:


Are U Givin To Ur Pastorz Or God??..
Ignorance Wil Jt Ruin U,be Readn Ur Bible Na..
Nt Insultn U O,jt Sayn My Mind
of course I'm giving to pastor don't let them deceive you.

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Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by gidjah(m): 1:32pm On May 13, 2018
That's the months topic all over LFC. Deut 8:18 and other verses are the anchor scriptures.'I am blessed to be a blessing '.so every LFC has to go by the Sunday topic.
blinkz4real:
@op it seems as if we attended d same church 2day cos d same msg was preached n all d Bible u quoted here was wot d Pst used. I guess it was lfc jalingo, donga Road abi?
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by GreatrAnalyst: 2:05pm On May 13, 2018
As.much as I have subscribed to message on giving for a very long time, I have got to know that giving is not really the main and foremost of principle.
Possibly because we in this part of the world has put too much emphasis on giving, and making it so makes it questionable.

Those who gave in the Bible did beyond giving. Same Bible says that it is even possible to give without love according to 1Cor. 13.
I think we begin to go in excess thinking that the more we give, the richer we become... Look at us, the topmost richest in the world didn't get that rich by just giving. Most time when giving is preached, it is so that we can become rich?! It is questionable. Many have done that for year with no matching results and are frustrated.

In Nigeria we don't need more of messages of giving, but messages of tolerance, love, justice, and of equity. This far has the messages of giving and more giving brought us...where greed, acquisitions of the materials, eye-service and self-centeredness seem to be at the front seat.


A person who subscribes to justice and fairness is more recognised before God than another who is emptying his pocket for church but is intolerant of his brethren, neighbours or fellow humans.

There should be a detour.
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by djon78(m): 2:15pm On May 13, 2018
Giving has always been from time immemorial. One thing I have discovered is that those that complain don't have much.

Infact majorities of givers are well to do. That was the secret of their success. If you are stingy, you can never grow pass some level.

My major life principle is that I live to give. Giving is now my second nature. And guess what? I have been living in sweatless, no toiling success. I have seen tremendous increase in my finances.


I give all round. I don't play with my tithe. Still involved in prisons, orphanages, education for the less privileged and outreach for young people because so many of our young people are exposed to illicit sex, drugs, teenage pregnancy etc.
I may call myself a kind of social entrepreneur.











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Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by djon78(m): 2:22pm On May 13, 2018
GreatrAnalyst:
As.much as I have subscribed to message on giving for a very long time, I have got to know that giving is not really the main and foremost of principle.
Possibly because we in this part of the world has put too much emphasis on giving, and making it so makes it questionable.

Those who gave in the Bible did beyond giving. Same Bible says that it is even possible to give without love according to 1Cor. 13.
I think we begin to go in excess thinking that the more we give, the richer we become... Look at us, the topmost richest in the world didn't get that rich by just giving. Most time when giving is preached, it is so that we can become rich?! It is questionable. Many have done that for year with no matching results and are frustrated.

In Nigeria we don't need more of messages of giving, but messages of tolerance, love, justice, and of equity. This far has the messages of giving and more giving brought us...where greed, acquisitions of the materials, eye-service and self-centeredness seem to be at the front seat.


A person who subscribes to justice and fairness is more recognised before God than another who is emptying his pocket for church but is intolerant of his brethren, neighbours or fellow humans.
J
There should be a detour.



The biggest givers in the world are still the advanced developed countries. From US, to EU Countries, Japan, Australia etc. Whenever there is a natural disaster, they are the ones that still send relief.


And they still they allow millions of people from poor countries to migrate to their place for improved living.
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by hopefulLandlord: 2:25pm On May 13, 2018
livebullet:
What is trending on giving today is a drive by the preachers to keep their source of survival open... Why is nobody preaching "help the poor"... Rather they have so much basterdized poverty to now make d poor look like being poor is always their own making hence deserve nothing from the well to do... But the church deserves all our coin? Ignoring the poor and enriching the church is rubbish... Lets not forget Mother Theresa

what did mother Theresa do?
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by GreatrAnalyst: 2:40pm On May 13, 2018
djon78:




The biggest givers in the world are still the advanced developed countries. From US, to EU Countries, Japan, Australia etc. Whenever there is a natural disaster, they are the ones that still send relief.


And they still they allow millions of people from poor countries to migrate to their place for improved living.



It is individuals who make up the developed countries? Isn't it? What you can't apply to individuals who make up those countries why applying it to the generality of those nations? Have you seen anyone on the Forbes list of the weathiest who said he became so because he was just giving? Thus definitely, no countries are wealthy countries because they are giving.

It is a working system built on justice and good management first, that make those countries being able to have excess and then share with others. Many countries are great today and they are not really into humanitarian stuffs.

They are not wealthy countries because they are sending relief materials to those hit by disaster. I believe in giving but it doesn't substitute for good management of resources and great leadership.

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Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by djon78(m): 3:05pm On May 13, 2018
GreatrAnalyst:


It is individuals who make up the developed countries? Isn't it? What you can't apply to individuals who make up those countries why applying it to the generality of those nations? Have you seen anyone on the Forbes list of the weathiest who said he became so because he was just giving? Thus definitely, no countries are wealthy countries because they are giving.

It is a working system built on justice and good management first, that make those countries being able to have excess and then share with others. Many countries are great today and they are not really into humanitarian stuffs.

They are not wealthy countries because they are sending relief materials to those hit by disaster. I believe in giving but it doesn't substitute for good management of resources and great leadership.



They have respect for basic human existence. There are systems in place. Still majority of poor people from impoverished nations troop to these countries for better living.

One thing I have come to discover is that poverty is a terrible thing. And to lift yourself from poverty, you will never think only of yourself.

And did I say that good management of resources is not part of it?

Some of the Greatest management principles is gotten from the Bible. The wisdom in the book of proverbs changed my life and managing my business more than anything else.



One of my greatest mentor in business and life is Mr Strive Masyiwa a Zimbabwean. He was the founder of Econet wireless. He has given scholarship to more than 40 000 young people. Recently he was speaking that CNN came to interview him and he told them that he reads his Bible 2 hours everyday. When he speaks, wisdom drips from his mouth. He hates corruption so much. He told of when he went to one African country for a business deal worth 100s of millions of dollars, with his partners from The west. The government of that country sent some people behind for kickbacks. Immediately he told his partners that corruption was involved. They stopped that deal immediately and flew out of that country. The government officials were mad.
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by Owokanpa(m): 3:30pm On May 13, 2018
lilbest4:
I don't pay tithe and (or) offering because most of those pastors are far richer than I am. I do assist people I'm richer than in any way I can in fact my girlfriend even complain that I help too much.

Don't tell me any stuff like "you are giving to God not your pastor" I am giving it to the pastor unless you give me God's account number.
Bro na true oh, myself dey pay directly into God's account, oya take,
Acct No : 0235684356
Acct Name : Baba God.
FirtBank.
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by ArcGibson(m): 6:28pm On May 13, 2018
This omooba is a pastor that no wan the business to get spoiled
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by Makaveli1166(m): 7:22pm On May 13, 2018
ALCOHOLKILLS:
Op if you're only reading the Old Testament, also read the New Testament, all this people you mentioned gave to God in form of sacrifices but JESUS came and gave the greatest sacrifices so that me and you will be free.

Jesus even asked a certain rich man to sale all he had and give it to the poor, he never said give it to church or your already rich pastors
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by Omooba77: 8:25pm On May 13, 2018
ALCOHOLKILLS:


Are you using a different bible lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

What has Luke 8 1-3 got to do with the issue at hand


8:1 And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him,8:2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,8:3 And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.

How do you minister to people of your substance.
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by Nobody: 9:50pm On May 13, 2018
Omooba77:
Giving has never been a new doctrine; it is as old as Creation. Cain and Abel gave; Abraham, Isaac, Jacob; David, Solomon, Widows in the days of Elijah and Elisha were not left out.
Even in the days of Jesus, a widow gave all she had.
Likewise people gave during the time of Apostles.
As long as earth remains; seed time and harvest will never cease... Genesis 8:22.
Please dont anyone rob you of your blessings because of wrong teachings. Luke 6:38 and Galatians 6:6-9 still potent. Have a blessed Sunday!


The real question is ""GIVING TO WHO""
Re: Why So Much Noise About Giving Today? by parissaint(m): 12:36pm On May 16, 2018
lilbest4:
of course I'm giving to pastor don't let them deceive you.
If Dats Ur Tot And Perspective Bout Givin,then Pls Stop It.

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