Disappointed1:
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I can do any legit job please

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Maket:


I asked you to change your name to appointment and watch how things will suddenly change for you.

OK sir, meaning I should open another account because edit it

paxonel:
it is not possible!
Scriptures assures that christ died for us once, and that's all.

The only condition that will make a christian lose his salvation is when he denounce his christian faith.

Denouncing christian faith does not happen in one second oyedepo himself knows that

So you are telling me that a person who believes in Jesus as lord and savior but is a serial rapist would make heaven?

paxonel:
all those scriptures you just quoted did not specify that they are referring to Christians in any way. Rather, the phrase "EVERYONE" are used which shows that Christians are not involved.
For instance, not everyone or every disciple of Jesus in Jesus days who who called Jesus Lord Lord ended up seeing the kingdom of God. These disciples were never christians until christ resurrected.
And oyedepo is saying that Names are being blotted out in Heaven (Book of life) every second.
Which implies that Christians names are blotted because only Christians are found in the book of life.

Can you see the error in what this man is saying?
If you think very well you will see it, only that it's a bit technical.
But oyedepo can't continue to fool people like that
so, how does these scriptures shows that Christians names are being blutted out from the book of life every second?

QUESTION: Are you saying there are no Christians who have fallen away from the faith? Is the bolded in Hebrews 4 talking about unbelievers? Then I need to be educated on this. Did all the Jews that left Egypt made it to the promised land? And the same Bible says we should learn from their mistakes.

1 Corinthians 10 Revised Standard Version (RSV)

Warnings from Israel’s History

10 I want you to know, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, 2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 and all ate the same supernatural[a] food 4 and all drank the same supernatural[b] drink. For they drank from the supernatural[c] Rock which followed them, and the Rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless with most of them God was not pleased; for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

6 Now these things are warnings for us, not to desire evil as they did. 7 Do not be idolaters as some of them were; as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to dance.” 8 We must not indulge in immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell in a single day. 9 We must not put the Lord[d] to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer. 11 Now these things happened to them as a warning, but they were written down for our instruction, upon whom the end of the ages has come. 12 Therefore let any one who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.


Question: Were these not all Children of Jacob and descendants of Abraham who believed in God and whom God called and promised to bless?

paxonel:
it is not possible!
Scriptures assures that christ died for us once, and that's all.

The only condition that will make a christian lose his salvation is when he denounce his christian faith.

Denouncing christian faith does not happen in one second oyedepo himself knows that

If u denounce Jesus, u have lost ur salvation.

Jesus Himself said "IF U ENDURE TILL THE END";which means if u dont follow to the end , u go loose ur salvation.

After all Judas Ischariot was an Apostle and he lost his salvation.

let us just pray for grace to live a righteous life so our names can be and remain on it

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So true sir! Folks should guard their salvation jealously. So many have lost their salvation unknowingly; so many Ichabod walking around without knowing that the glory have departed tet-tey

Edu3Again:


If u denounce Jesus, u have lost ur salvation.

Jesus Himself said "IF U ENDURE TILL THE END";which means if u dont follow to the end , u go loose ur salvation.

After all Judas Ischariot was an Apostle and he lost his salvation.

very true!
But that will not happen in a second as oyedepo is putting it

HigherEd:
DON'T BE DECEIVED.

Names are being blotted out in Heaven (Book of life) every second.

It's possible for your name to be there today and not be there tomorrow.
It means our names are written in Pencil in Heaven.
Stay on in righteousness for your name to remain there.
If your name isn't there, strive for your name to enter.
Judas' name was there but later blotted out; he became the 'son of perdition'.

Dr David Oyedepo

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1372107036266497&id=444807728996437

That means Jesus Christ can lose his salvation and his name blotted out. Because that is the only possible way a believer can fall.

Charly68:
God bless you Baba,only fools will be deceived by the end time message of once saved always saved ...mess up and be thrown overboard ...let everybody go & read the book of Revelations ,the letter to the seven churches .

Yes. Particularly Revelation Chapters 2 and 3

HigherEd:
TheVictorious I can almost hear Joseph Prince and Wommack rolling their eyes already
What's is your opinion on this?

Wommack and Joseph Prince are teaching 99% truth and 1% error and that error has led many youths astray.

paxonel:
Big lie!!
where are scriptures?

This oyedepo sef

Na way to tell people say if them nor pay tithe them go miss heaven na him dey so

Matt 10.22 1 cor 9.24 Heb 12.1 Matt 7:21-24

paxonel:
it is not possible!
Scriptures assures that christ died for us once, and that's all.

The only condition that will make a christian lose his salvation is when he denounce his christian faith.

Denouncing christian faith does not happen in one second oyedepo himself knows that

Yes Christ died for you once and for All. That's absolutely correct. However, if you go back and continue in the sins from which he saved you from, if you went back to continue to live in sin, to formulate and commit adultery ,to steal and to kill and eeath unfortunately meet you along the line before you could repent from those sins (because Grace has been abused) assuredly I say to you that there'll be no Grace after dead. So don't be deceived that ounces saved, forever Saved. it's the Greatest Lie from the pit of HELL

loveformercy:
Oyedepo is 200% right...All these please ooh you can "continue in sin that grace may abound" messages from grace preachers will make you take sin lightly; fornicate & shout grace, do ashawo & shout grace, masturbate & shout grace, collect bribe & shout grace, sleep with your fiance & shout grace...

Romans 6:1-4 "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid!"

He that committed sin is of the devil. If you die in sin right now, you are going to hell fire life. You think God is your tom boy where you will sin anyhow & use praises to cover it up...

If you sin without repenting immediately, you are heading to hell

Believers have, the incorruptible seed of God in them, hence cannot continue willfully in sin. God's desire have become their desire.

So, where will the urge to practise evil act come from?

skydeexie:


QUESTION: Are you saying there are no Christians who have fallen away from the faith? Is the bolded in Hebrews 4 talking about unbelievers? Then I need to be educated on this. Did all the Jews that left Egypt made it to the promised land? And the same Bible says we should learn from their mistakes.

ofcourse there are Christians that have fallen away from the faith, but that didn't happen in one second.
So there is nothing like Christians having their names removed from the boko of life every seconds.

1 Corinthians 10 Revised Standard Version (RSV)

Warnings from Israel’s History

10 I want you to know, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, 2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 and all ate the same supernatural[a] food 4 and all drank the same supernatural[b] drink. For they drank from the supernatural[c] Rock which followed them, and the Rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless with most of them God was not pleased; for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

6 Now these things are warnings for us, not to desire evil as they did. 7 Do not be idolaters as some of them were; as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to dance.” 8 We must not indulge in immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell in a single day. 9 We must not put the Lord[d] to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer. 11 Now these things happened to them as a warning, but they were written down for our instruction, upon whom the end of the ages has come. 12 Therefore let any one who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.


Question: Were these not all Children of Jacob and descendants of Abraham who believed in God and whom God called and promised to bless?

sorry, these children of Jacob and descendants of Abraham did not share the same covenant with christians, they couldn't possibly enjoy the Grace christians are enjoying today, so it is wrong to use their situation to analyze how God is judging christians.
Look for something better to do the analysis.

DavSagacity:
Yes Sir. You can't be more correct. It take only a little sin to disqualify a Born again Child of God from making Heaven and the same little sin will automatically qualify such person for Hell. You cannot Loose Heaven and loose Hell at the same time.

Did Christ die for sins or not? Sin cannever disqualify anybody. The only thing that will take many people to damnation is not believing and accepting whole-heartedly that, the Son of God was scourged and brutally wounded for your every sin.

This knowledge only, will make you free from every sin and crown you with righteousness, which you could never have attained by your own will.

HigherEd:

So you are telling me that a person who believes in Jesus as lord and savior but is a serial rapist would make heaven?

it is understatement to say the person will make heaven. The person is already in heaven like that.

This is not to encourage evil like rape, but the fact still remain that irrespective of what we do

...Whoever believes should not perish but have eternal life.

It didn't say whoever believes should not perish but will have eternal life in the future.

There is a definite clause .

It's a free gift, not by works or by how righteous the individual is.

Many at times oyedepo and the rest will downplay this fact and make certain statements that are wrong, but because they are men of God, we find ourselves ignoring their errors

Just a couple of good acts does not put a name in the book of life, you must be a practicer of righteousness for the name to be, and also a couple of sins or mistakes does not take a name off, you have to become a practicer of wickedness, once committing sin becomes a way of life then the person name would be blotted out. And of course it is not a literal book.

loveformercy:
Oyedepo is 200% right...All these please ooh you can "continue in sin that grace may abound" messages from grace preachers will make you take sin lightly; fornicate & shout grace, do ashawo & shout grace, masturbate & shout grace, collect bribe & shout grace, sleep with your fiance & shout grace...

Romans 6:1-4 "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid!"

He that committed sin is of the devil. If you die in sin right now, you are going to hell fire life. You think God is your tom boy where you will sin anyhow & use praises to cover it up...

If you sin without repenting immediately, you are heading to hell

Bro, what of the sin you forgot to repent of? Are you sure you have trully confess every sin you might have committed today?

bloodofthelamb:


Did Christ die for sins or not? Sin cannever disqualify anybody. The only thing that will take many people to damnation is not believing and accepting whole-heartedly that, the Son of God was scourged and brutally wounded for your every sin.

This knowledge only, will make you free from every sin and crown you with righteousness, which you could never have attained by your own will.

So what u are saying is once saved, forever Saved isn't it..?. I pity you my friend.
Yes Christ Died for all Our sins Provided you provided you confessed the sins and forsoke them. You cannot continue in sin and say because Christ died for you sins and continue to sleep with your neighbours wife and continue to fornicate , commit adultery and steal. At the Cross, Christ paid the price for our sins 1000% AFFIRMATIVE. But must you continue in Sin that Grace may abound.?

DavSagacity:

Yes Christ died for you once and for All. That's absolutely correct.

you have agreed on this because it is scriptural

However, if you go back and continue in the sins from which he saved you from, if you went back to continue to live in sin, to formulate and commit adultery ,to steal and to kill and eeath unfortunately meet you along the line before you could repent from those sins (because Grace has been abused) assuredly I say to you that there'll be no Grace after dead. So don't be deceived that ounces saved, forever Saved. it's the Greatest Lie from the pit of HELL

but this one you have just said, it is never scriptural but assumption. Or do you have any bible reference?

truefact:

If it is a lie, then why worry about so called pastors and Christians doing evil.... This means, once a Christian, one can go on doing all sorts of evil... I rather go with oyedepo than people like you

Someone who goes on doing evil, is it not ovious that, the said person is evil? He is a liar and has not the life and sperm(seed) of God in him.

Dongreat:
Which bible? Same that was written by different set comprising of the catholic and gnostic and not some holy filled long beaded men. Same bible that the verses were cherry picked to favor the priest who feed fat on the sufferings of the mass. Same bible used to perpetuate genocide by the crusaders and their sin absorbed just by the wave of hands by the bishop whom were notorious for hoarding the golds and fine jewelries after the loots.

Now I have a question and if anybody can fully answer I will transfer 40k to your account and I am dead serious.

My question is in the bible, book of Genesis I think, it talked about Adam and Eve who bore only two sons named Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel and after he was cursed and he went out as a destitute, right?
Then Cain went to the land of Nod and found a WOMAN and she bore him a son Enoch, right?

My question is if Adam and Eve the first and only people created by god only bore two sons then where did the WIFE of Cain at Nod came from?

Answer this question and I will send to your account 40K. Impress me more and I swear with my dad grave to increase the reward to 100k.

Ps: I already know the answer. The question is for the Christians only please. Atheists and Agnostics are exempted as they may already know the answer. Thank you.

D scripture say he new is wife there not met, again it was his sister he took along, and again it was not a sin then, ( bcus no law) and can marry themselves.
Ready the Genesis more you wil see where more children were born by Adam and eve, did u ask yourself where the other children got their wife and husband from? Or why God say populate and fill the earth?
It was not a sin then until God gave them law and that is when it became sin if they do.
I have answers you so I need my money

Dongreat:
Which bible? Same that was written by different set comprising of the catholic and gnostic and not some holy filled long beaded men. Same bible that the verses were cherry picked to favor the priest who feed fat on the sufferings of the mass. Same bible used to perpetuate genocide by the crusaders and their sin absorbed just by the wave of hands by the bishop whom were notorious for hoarding the golds and fine jewelries after the loots.

Now I have a question and if anybody can fully answer I will transfer 40k to your account and I am dead serious.

My question is in the bible, book of Genesis I think, it talked about Adam and Eve who bore only two sons named Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel and after he was cursed and he went out as a destitute, right?
Then Cain went to the land of Nod and found a WOMAN and she bore him a son Enoch, right?

My question is if Adam and Eve the first and only people created by god only bore two sons then where did the WIFE of Cain at Nod came from?

Answer this question and I will send to your account 40K. Impress me more and I swear with my dad grave to increase the reward to 100k.

Ps: I already know the answer. The question is for the Christians only please. Atheists and Agnostics are exempted as they may already know the answer. Thank you.

D scripture say he new is wife (ie got her pregnant) there not met, again it was his sister he took along, and it was not a sin then, ( bcus no law) and can marry themselves.
Ready the Genesis more you wil see where more children were born by Adam and eve, did u ask yourself where the other children got their wife and husband from? Or why God say populate and fill the earth?
It was not a sin then until God gave them law and that is when it became sin if they do.
I have answerd you so I need my money

paxonel:
you have agreed on this because it is scriptural
but this one you have just said, it is never scriptural but assumption. Or do you have any bible reference?

Once saved is not always saved. In fact a salvation is not sure until the prize has been received and that is why by enduring to the end, salvation is attained.

rabzy:

Once saved is not always saved. In fact a salvation is not sure until the prize has been received and that is why by enduring to the end, salvation is attained.

bible reference please!
Don't just talk because you hear people saying it

DavSagacity:

So what u are saying is once saved, forever Saved isn't it..?. I pity you my friend.
Yes Christ Died for all Our sins Provided you provided you confessed the sins and forsoke them. You cannot continue in sin and say because Christ died for you sins and continue to sleep with your neighbours wife and continue to fornicate , commit adultery and steal. At the Cross, Christ paid the price for our sins 1000% AFFIRMATIVE. But must you continue in Sin that Grace may abound.?

Anybody claiming to be a christian and continues in sin is not actually a christian. That person has not the seed of God in him.

Whosover is born of God cannot continue in sin for, the seed and desire of God dwelleth in him.

paxonel:
you have agreed on this because it is scriptural
but this one you have just said, it is never scriptural but assumption. Or do you have any bible reference?

Romans 6:1, Revelation Chapters 2 and 3 . Read it with u derstanding.

HigherEd:

So you are telling me that a person who believes in Jesus as lord and savior but is a serial rapist would make heaven?

A soul who has been "born of God" cannot be a serial rapist. Because the incorruptible life and nature of God is in him..

bloodofthelamb:


Anybody claiming to be a christian and continues in sin is not actually a christian. That person has not the seed of God in him.

Whosover is born of God cannot continue in sin for, the seed and desire of God dwelleth in him.

Yes. Though You seem confused. Your reply has no correlation with the comment i responded to. kindly go back and read my post or comments before u quote me.
Thanks

Fredmatic:

D scripture say he new is wife there not met, again it was his sister he took along, and again it was not a sin then, ( bcus no law) and can marry themselves.
Ready the Genesis more you wil see where more children were born by Adam and eve, did u ask yourself where the other children got their wife and husband from? Or why God say populate and fill the earth?
It was not a sin then until God gave them law and that is when it became sin if they do.
I have answers you so I need my money

Tried but not the answer.
Since no one can answer then the answer can be found in a book that was exempted from the bible called the “book of jubilees”. And you can google the book. Answer is found in “Jubilee 4:1-18”

My point is the bible is just a book written by men who are clever scholars not holy field.

paxonel:
bible reference please!
Don't just talk because you hear people saying it

Indeed hebrews 10 Vs 26 to 32. Rev 2v10, Rev 3v 11 and 12. 1cor9vs24 to 27