ttalks:

Err. . . . I know the point being pushed by the topic is not really true.
It's the belief held by seventh day adventists and some other people.
I've read a lot on these postulations and they seem to make sense sometimes but there are
other equally sense making views about the "mark of the beast" and the anti-christ stuff that
are completely opposite from the point pushed by the adventists.


The book of Revelations has a lot to say and it is usually the basis of most of these arguments.
One of the paramount claims made by a lot of people based on chapters like Revelations 17 is that
the pope is the antichrist and that the LovePeddler in question is the Roman Catholic Church.

I was inclined to believe this before, but further study has led me to believe that the LovePeddler in Revelations 17 isn't the catholic
church, but the whole of Christendom(that is, the majority that has and still will go into error).

biomes2001:

Sunday worship represents the mark of the Beast which Lucifer instituted through the Vatican,whereas the Sabbath is the seal of God which HE instituted from the origin of creation.These 2 days will form the borne of contention for those who are seeking God in the last days;and will seperate the chaff christians from the wheat christians[b],

ORIGIN OF SABBATH IN THE BIBLE[/b]

"And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy,because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done"(GEN.2:3)
See also EX.20:8-11,i.e the the Law of God or 10commandments

ORIGIN OF SUNDAY WORSHIP

"He[i](the beast)[/i] will speak against the MOST HIGH and oppress His saints and try to change the set times[i](for worship,e.g.Sabbath,and feasts,e.g,passover,etc.)[/i] and the laws (i.e,the 10 commandments,e.g,change of the 4th to sunday worship). The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time". (DAN.7[i]:25).

Decided this day wether u'll obey God's commandments or u'll follow the traditions of the catholic church also taught by false prophets like Benny Hinn,Kenneth Copeland,Oyakhilome,Oyedepo,etc[/i]

petres_007:

My big bros! Nice having you around.

petres_007:

Nice observation you have there. But I still hold the RCC suspect as the great LovePeddler. . . especially in light of Daniel's prophecies, not just revelation

biomes2001:

Sunday worship represents the mark of the Beast which Lucifer instituted through the Vatican,whereas the Sabbath is the seal of God which HE instituted from the origin of creation.These 2 days will form the borne of contention for those who are seeking God in the last days;and will seperate the chaff christians from the wheat christians[b],

ORIGIN OF SABBATH IN THE BIBLE[/b]

"And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy,because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done"(GEN.2:3)
See also EX.20:8-11,i.e the the Law of God or 10commandments

ORIGIN OF SUNDAY WORSHIP

"He[i](the beast)[/i] will speak against the MOST HIGH and oppress His saints and try to change the set times[i](for worship,e.g.Sabbath,and feasts,e.g,passover,etc.)[/i] and the laws (i.e,the 10 commandments,e.g,change of the 4th to sunday worship). The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time". (DAN.7[i]:25).

Decided this day wether u'll obey God's commandments or u'll follow the traditions of the catholic church also taught by false prophets like Benny Hinn,Kenneth Copeland,Oyakhilome,Oyedepo,etc[/i]

Image123:

What's the OP on about? The Lord's day was declared even before the revelation of 'mark of the beast'

Gunnaz007:

U guys in d adventist call urselfs "Jews"; hehehehe "Fake" Jews indeed!!!

The Sabbath of the New Covenant

This tract is being written because we as Christians are living in a very peculiar time. In these last days prior to the return of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, there is such confusion among so many well meaning and Christian-minded people, and one great point of confusion and contention is regarding the Sabbath.

I have personally been confronted by people who condemned me and my ministry because I did not keep the Sabbath the way they were trying to keep it. There is extremism in any belief system, and that extremism occurs when proponents of a belief system do not accept the whole council of God. In this tract, we will look at the whole council of God on the subject of the Sabbath, which will bring forth a clear understanding of what it is and how it must be kept.

We will now go back to the origin of the Sabbath at the time of the creation as told at the beginning of the book of Genesis. In Genesis 2:1-3 we read, "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."

One thing that should be immediately noticed is that all of the preceding six days end with the following words, "And the evening and the morning were the (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th) day." We do not find these words of finality or summation ending the seventh day, because in a perfect world, everyday thereafter would be a condition of Sabbath or rest and repose. That day was open-ended! Only sin could take away that condition of Sabbath or rest that was meant for everyday, and sadly, that is exactly what happened. Later, we will see how our Lord Jesus restored the perpetual and continual Sabbath to our souls.

The first time we see the word "Sabbath" is in the book of Exodus, and in Exodus 20:8-11, we find that it is given as one of the Ten Commandments as follows: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it."

One primary point that must be noted regarding the Sabbath commandment is that it has nothing to do with going to church! It has only to do with the cessation from work. Nothing more and nothing less. Sinful man was ordered to do nothing on the seventh day. Thus, one day each week he would not be out there committing sin after sin after sin. It was a "do nothing" day, established as such until the Savior would come to give us victory over sin every day of the week and establish rest for our souls by his spirit dwelling within. This could be made possible only through a New Covenant established by the blood of the Lamb of God!

The Old Testament is replete with examples of Sabbath commandments, but in every example, it is under the Old Covenant of a single day of rest, which by the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ has given way to a Sabbath, where every day is one where we cease from our old works. The Old Covenant, according to Hebrews 8:13, is no more! It reads as follows: "In that he saith, a New Covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

In Galatians 3:24-25, we are exhorted "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are NO LONGER UNDER THE SCHOOLMASTER." Thus, the law could lead us to Christ but no further! Those who think that they are keeping the Sabbath as a day must remember that James 2:10 says, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." The only one who has ever kept the Sabbath perfectly is Jesus Christ. Man cannot do what He did in keeping the law. The Lord Jesus took the law to Calvary as well as the sin of the world. It was there that the law and all transgressions met, and He bore the sin of many. See Isaiah 53.

Is there a Sabbath after Calvary? Yes! Hebrews 4:9-10 says, "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his." There are two words not found in those verses, "Sabbath" and "day." It is because our rest is no longer a calendar day each week, but every day, which includes the seventh, and thus we keep the Sabbath by living a godly and blood-washed life every day. For we have ceased from our old works. Some people who haven't come to an understanding of what covenant they are under will point out that Paul often went into the synagogues on the Sabbath. If we look at those incidents, however, we see that it was to bring those who hear out of the synagogue and that system of death. Here is what Paul the Apostle said about the seventh day as found in Romans 14:5-6: "One man esteemeth one day above another, another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord, and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it."

We know that the Sabbath law is fulfilled in Jesus Christ and He abides within us. The seventh day Sabbath was not eliminated but fulfilled, and our Savior added six more days to that rest and gave us the timelessness of eternal life. Thus, the seventh day is kept holy with all the other days. We can worship our Lord any day and every day. We know that Sunday is not the Sabbath but rather one of seven days, any of which can be used for worship. Acts 20:7 says, "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."

It is my humble prayer that all who read this will realize the joy of keeping all seven days of the week holy and thus fulfill the sacred commandment; for it is not our works but the finished work of Christ that has established the eternal timeless Sabbath of the New Covenant by the power of His blood.

Pastor David J. Meyer

Last Trumpet Ministries International
PO Box 806
Beaver Dam, WI 53916

http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org

aletheia:

The Sabbath of the New Covenant

This tract is being written because we as Christians are living in a very peculiar time. In these last days prior to the return of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, there is such confusion among so many well meaning and Christian-minded people, and one great point of confusion and contention is regarding the Sabbath.

I have personally been confronted by people who condemned me and my ministry because I did not keep the Sabbath the way they were trying to keep it. There is extremism in any belief system, and that extremism occurs when proponents of a belief system do not accept the whole council of God. In this tract, we will look at the whole council of God on the subject of the Sabbath, which will bring forth a clear understanding of what it is and how it must be kept.

We will now go back to the origin of the Sabbath at the time of the creation as told at the beginning of the book of Genesis. In Genesis 2:1-3 we read, "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."

One thing that should be immediately noticed is that all of the preceding six days end with the following words, "And the evening and the morning were the (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th) day." We do not find these words of finality or summation ending the seventh day, because in a perfect world, everyday thereafter would be a condition of Sabbath or rest and repose. That day was open-ended! Only sin could take away that condition of Sabbath or rest that was meant for everyday, and sadly, that is exactly what happened. Later, we will see how our Lord Jesus restored the perpetual and continual Sabbath to our souls.

The first time we see the word "Sabbath" is in the book of Exodus, and in Exodus 20:8-11, we find that it is given as one of the Ten Commandments as follows: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it."

One primary point that must be noted regarding the Sabbath commandment is that it has nothing to do with going to church! It has only to do with the cessation from work. Nothing more and nothing less. Sinful man was ordered to do nothing on the seventh day. Thus, one day each week he would not be out there committing sin after sin after sin. It was a "do nothing" day, established as such until the Savior would come to give us victory over sin every day of the week and establish rest for our souls by his spirit dwelling within. This could be made possible only through a New Covenant established by the blood of the Lamb of God!

The Old Testament is replete with examples of Sabbath commandments, but in every example, it is under the Old Covenant of a single day of rest, which by the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ has given way to a Sabbath, where every day is one where we cease from our old works. The Old Covenant, according to Hebrews 8:13, is no more! It reads as follows: "In that he saith, a New Covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

In Galatians 3:24-25, we are exhorted "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are NO LONGER UNDER THE SCHOOLMASTER." Thus, the law could lead us to Christ but no further! Those who think that they are keeping the Sabbath as a day must remember that James 2:10 says, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." The only one who has ever kept the Sabbath perfectly is Jesus Christ. Man cannot do what He did in keeping the law. The Lord Jesus took the law to Calvary as well as the sin of the world. It was there that the law and all transgressions met, and He bore the sin of many. See Isaiah 53.

Is there a Sabbath after Calvary? Yes! Hebrews 4:9-10 says, "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his." There are two words not found in those verses, "Sabbath" and "day." It is because our rest is no longer a calendar day each week, but every day, which includes the seventh, and thus we keep the Sabbath by living a godly and blood-washed life every day. For we have ceased from our old works. Some people who haven't come to an understanding of what covenant they are under will point out that Paul often went into the synagogues on the Sabbath. If we look at those incidents, however, we see that it was to bring those who hear out of the synagogue and that system of death. Here is what Paul the Apostle said about the seventh day as found in Romans 14:5-6: "One man esteemeth one day above another, another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord, and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it."

We know that the Sabbath law is fulfilled in Jesus Christ and He abides within us. The seventh day Sabbath was not eliminated but fulfilled, and our Savior added six more days to that rest and gave us the timelessness of eternal life. Thus, the seventh day is kept holy with all the other days. We can worship our Lord any day and every day. We know that Sunday is not the Sabbath but rather one of seven days, any of which can be used for worship. Acts 20:7 says, "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."

It is my humble prayer that all who read this will realize the joy of keeping all seven days of the week holy and thus fulfill the sacred commandment; for it is not our works but the finished work of Christ that has established the eternal timeless Sabbath of the New Covenant by the power of His blood.

Pastor David J. Meyer

Last Trumpet Ministries International
PO Box 806
Beaver Dam, WI 53916
http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org

hahaha  so dis biometric dude that goes about downloading pics of d oyedepos and oyakhilomes as freemasons, is an adventist dude!!![/quote ]

I had said earlier , anyone who goes out lashing at mInisters of the gospel like this will Always have hidden agenda

Joagbaje:

[size=16pt][b]IS DAVID MEYER NOT A WOFFER?!!!.[/b ][/size]

aletheia:

Why don't you ask him yourself?

Joagbaje:

[size=16pt]HE IS A WOFFER FOR REAL BABY!!.[/size]

Gunnaz007:

hahaha so dis biometric dude that goes about downloading pics of d oyedepos and oyakhilomes as freemasons, is an adventist dude!!!

Biomes, u hide behind keyboards to attack others and pouring "contrived" and "wickedly imagined" conclusions on the finger/wrist/fist mannerisms of this men (captured while they are preaching or addressing a gatherin), while hiding d sect u belong to, but dis post has exposed u.

I suppose since d devil has taken ova all available signs that one can make with his fingers, then everyone wud just hav to glue his/her fingers together so as not to be seen as a mason, satanist, illums, reptilian, luciferian, buccaneer, eiye, ogede,,,, huhn - shame on u biomes ,,, big shame. The next time your rabbi preaches from d seventh day adventist pulpit, watch out for him, cos he is gonna flash d devil long-horn salute or d 3six sign bro!!!

Come on biomes, if i am addressing a crowd, and i'v got to show the "1" sign with my fingers, i wud!!! And if i'v got to show the "3" sign with any of my fingers, i wud!!! And if i'v got to fold my wrist as a lion's claw, i wud!!!! Whateva sign i've got to use my fingers to express, i wud use them to express QED!!!! D devil cant dictate to me which finger/fist/wrist signs i am gonna use in my expressions and which i am not!!!!
Dis is d same myopic reasonin dat made supposed Jewish christians in d days of Apostle Paul to restrict others from eating certain food - such as meat, of which the apostles preached against!!!

The links posted by Petres above are quite revealin; has shown me why biomes' dad was in the masonry for 59 years (lol - maybe 'am exagerating) and y biomes is still spinning at the 22nd degree of the scottish rite (after 19 years of studies initiation rites)


Your prophetess ellen white, i can now see, is a "true prophetess" with "luciferic seizures" in place of 'visions'; as in, if you are not keeping jewish laws (of which Jesus fulfilled and abolished - Ephesians 2:15), then u'r not a christian; the same thing d apostles kicked against huhn

biomes i now understand were u'r comin from,,, hehehehe. All d best! hehehehe!
U guys in d adventist call urselfs "Jews"; hehehehe "Fake" Jews indeed!!!

Bring it on bro

ukotmi:

Is Biomes an Adventist?
Well I sensed something fishy when i read his posts on body gestures and signs. I will be back to comment fully by the time I read nuclearboy's reaction. he cautioned aletheia and others to tread cautiously on the so called revelations of Masonic membership of some pastors. well, I think the mind set and motive of some posters is been made bare.It is sad for a number of respected xtian posters on nairaland to easily jump to funny unsubstantiated conclusions. In essence, they are not sure of the very facts they are posting. How sad

Gunnaz007:

^^^My friend shattap dia!!!

biomes' spiritual myopia on sunday worship and keeping the sabbath is enough to class him as an adventist!!!! However, I accept my bad for rushing to conclude on his place of worship!!!

By d way, how did u know biomes is not an adventist? Have u interacted with him b4? Because u posted the above b4 biomes made his previous two replies afta several days of opening the thread; or is biomes also ukotmi? U had beta unlocked this mystery!!!

And u were quick to say i made unsubstantiated conclusions about biomes' place of worship; i see; how about biomes' unsubstantiated conclusions about oyedepo and oyakhilome?

biomes must show us videos or photos of the men of God he accused as cultist partaking in initiation rites or attending freemasonic meetings (not pictures of their mannerisms captured while they are preaching to their congregation and hear-says!!!) to substantiate his claims, else, he has commited a grave sin b4 God and man for character assasination and wickedly imagined, conjured/conjective lies against these men!!!

nuclearboy:

@biomes2001:

For Christians, you suprised me here - you're rejoicing that you found something over biomes2001. Not one single attempt to find/show truth from the Bible. Just a matter of "you abused my pastor" and now I have the chance to attack you too. Where is God in all of that? Abi chris"T" is THE ONE, not God?  This then is an example of what most complain about, not that they hate you.

nuclearboy:


@Joagbaje/CE people:

For Christians, you suprised me here - you're rejoicing that you found something over biomes2001. Not one single attempt to find/show truth from the Bible. Just a matter of "you abused my pastor" and now I have the chance to attack you too. Where is God in all of that? Abi chris"T" is THE ONE, not God?  This then is an example of what most complain about, not that they hate you.

ukotmi:

Haba, beloved e never reach make you tell  me to shattap. I was not referring to your post when i asked "is biomes an Adventist?" I asked the question in general terms and not to poke fun. Go thru my posts and you will discover that ukotmi is not the same as biomes. click on my profile and then on last posts. I have always called for believers to major on fundamentals that define us as Christians and not frills of hair style,whether to wear suit or agbada to preach etc. 
Read my several contributions. I always advocate caution giving the other person a benefit of doubt. Incidental I play Buchi, Sinach all CE singers while driving.