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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by blackaxe78: 10:24am On Jul 04, 2018
Lomprico2:


Chop ur 30k and gerrof my post. Bmc zombie. It will also end badly for you.

This is pure blackmail from d presidency. 'give us your land or we kill you'




You can't misqoute the president as sane people do know how to read and assimilate.

A resolution you can make. Insult you can only do. Am sure you searching for a job. Know one will employ a low thinker
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by salt1: 10:24am On Jul 04, 2018
blackaxe78:





Quite agree with you. But an avenue has not been created for that. Lots have been. Brainwashes that it's about "Collecting there land"

You need to welcome a recommendation and make amendments where necessary to be benefit your people too.

I outrightly welcome your suggestion but still the governments need to give an audience for deliberations. Landmass must be set aside for such which they can buy into. It's just simple if we really want to tackle this menace without been bias

Niger State alone has 3 times the landmass of the entire SE. There are vast areas not entirely owned by anybody.
Doesn't it make more sense to take from these ones who have so much and experiment with it, rather than fighting those who barely have?

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by blackaxe78: 10:28am On Jul 04, 2018
salt1:


Niger State alone has 3 times the landmass of the entire SE. There are vast areas not entirely owned by anybody.
Doesn't it make more sense to take from these ones who have so much and experiment with it, rather than fighting those who barely have?

The question is that the market is in the south and how do you accommodate them.

You can't confine them to the North as it will not be welcomed if such is reciprocates from there side too. Imagine states like Ekiti , Osun, Ebonyi, Abia, Ondo and the likes rejecting ranching when over 50% of the state is wild life
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by salt1: 10:33am On Jul 04, 2018
blackaxe78:


The question is that the market is in the south and how do you accommodate them.

You can't confine them to the North as it will not be welcomed if such is reciprocates from there side too. Imagine states like Ekiti , Osun, Ebonyi, Abia, Ondo and the likes rejecting ranching when over 50% of the state is wild life


Thanks for not resorting to abuse.
Since the purchasing power is in the South, how about they buy land in the South for this their personal business?
Nobody is opposed to ranching as a personal business. If Igbos insist on Hausas and Yorubas giving them land or stores for free, will that sound reasonable?

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by mbos: 10:33am On Jul 04, 2018
so it is clear to everyone that this is a Govt by force. so they will force themselves back to power. 2019.

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by Sunsets: 10:36am On Jul 04, 2018
You don't need to listen to him. His breath smells disappointment.
Saao:
I listen to him and I feel disappointed
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by Saintp(m): 10:36am On Jul 04, 2018
blackaxe78:





Quite agree with you. But an avenue has not been created for that. Lots have been. Brainwashes that it's about "Collecting there land"

You need to welcome a recommendation and make amendments where necessary to be benefit your people too.

I outrightly welcome your suggestion but still the governments need to give an audience for deliberations. Landmass must be set aside for such which they can buy into. It's just simple if we really want to tackle this menace without been bias

Are you intentionally playing to the gallery or you are serious?
First, the North west and north east account for over 60% of Nigeria landmass, so there is enough land to accommodate all cows in Nigeria.
Secondly, Kano state govt has suggested falgore forest for ranching and this can accommodate all cows in Nigeria, why is the govt not interested in that proposal?
Thirdly, we don't mind if the cost of beef increases if the herdsmen are restricted to the NW and NE as a result of transporting these cows to the southern market, we will gladly pay, we just don't want beef tainted in human blood as it is happening now

Fourthly, cows business is a private business. Any herdsmen who wants to ranch in south or middle belt should go as individual and buy land from the owners and ranch their cows, there is nothing wrong in that.

my friend, all you are seeing us not just about cows, it is a well planned attempt to grab and colonize lands. The Fulanis are strategic long term planners, unlike the idiot elites in the south, the Fulani's know what they are doing.

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by blackaxe78: 10:37am On Jul 04, 2018
salt1:



Thanks for not resorting to abuse.
Since the purchasing power is in the South, how about they buy land in the South for this their personal business?
Nobody is opposed to ranching as a personal business. If Igbos insist on Hausas and Yorubas giving them land or stores for free, will that sound reasonable?

I have never suggested that land should be giving to them for free even some states have the power to do so. It's welcoming the idea fast and putting in clauses that benefits all.

An average Nigerian believes now that ranching means "taking our land". Neglecting the menace at present and ways to curb it.

If an idea is welcomed, it can be fine tuned.
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by mank1234(m): 10:39am On Jul 04, 2018
blackaxe78:
Ranching is the way to go.

People complain and blame without suggesting a better solution.

Someone will still come here to say that fresh meat should be transported daily from the North by rail or flight to the south.

Ranching is just the solution to this ills. .ore advantages than disadvantages.

If not sale, lease. Just confine them and know any other herdsmen found outside it is a criminal.

Ethno religious differences has really limited our thoughts

"Our land" mentality.

If Friesland comes to buy half of the land mass of some states now,. They did be willing to sell.

We just do not want a solution cos of HATE

That's because friesland won't go on a killing spree when it's business is attacked by unknown hoodlums. If traders who travel to buy goods and are attacked by hoodlums turn around to attacks nearby communities, will you be as supportive as you're to your brothers?

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by bukogu459: 10:39am On Jul 04, 2018
Amen
BeeBeeOoh:
shocked




So It has gotten to the level of threatening people living in their ancestral land with death if they don't release their land(s) to herdsmen for cattle colonies or ranching?

Nature Will Never Be Kind To Femi Adesina And His Family

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by Myself2(m): 10:40am On Jul 04, 2018
Oh now the reason behind their murderous agenda has been exposed
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by Empiror: 10:41am On Jul 04, 2018
This is obvious that Buhari, Tinubu, Adesina and the presidency at large are sponsorers and members of Miyyetti Allah.
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by 2tpick: 10:44am On Jul 04, 2018
blackaxe78:



Whether you are selling, renting or leasing the land, the sole aim is to confine herdsmen with there herds. Simple.
Please Sir what will be your fate if you aint willing for any of the above? Would they respect your opinion?

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by blackaxe78: 10:44am On Jul 04, 2018
Saintp:


Are you intentionally playing to the gallery or you are serious?
First, the North west and north east account for over 60% of Nigeria landmass, so there is enough land to accommodate all cows in Nigeria.
Secondly, Kano state govt has suggested falgore forest for ranching and this can accommodate all cows in Nigeria, why is the govt not interested in that proposal?
Thirdly, we don't mind if the cost of beef increases if the herdsmen are restricted to the NW and NE, we will gladly pay, we just don't want beef tainted in human blood as it is happening now

Fourthly, cows business is a private business. Any herdsmen who wants to ranch in south or middle belt should go as individual and buy land from the owners and ranch their cows, there is nothing wrong in that.


my friend, all you are seeing us not just about cows, it is a well planned attempt to grab and colonize lands. The Fulanis are strategic long term planners, unlike the idiot elites in the south, the Fulani's know what they are doing.

That's a point up there but you can't just make them buy land at any location. A designated area they can buy into must be put in place.

The idea of confining them to the North and bringing products to the south is totally out of it.

Have not implied land be giving freely, am just if the fact that States should welcome, deliberate and make amendments. You don't even have to sell to them when you can lease and rent.

As for me, removing all biases, it's the only way to go. Confine them and ban open grazing. #Simple. Anyone who can't afford will have to relocate to another state with more welcoming ranching package.

But first is welcoming the idea and erasing the "our land " mentality
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by UncleJudax(m): 10:46am On Jul 04, 2018
blackaxe78:


Glaring you studied in the North. Your sense of reasoning campaigns that fact.

So don't they ranch in the North? And if they only do in the North, how does the produce get to the south?

You really schooled in the North. Critical reasoning far from you.
See how you reason in Nigeria?

I studied in the north...I distinguished myself. Graduated with 4.3 CGPA...now in a master program in Europe.

So what is your point?

Get this; in developed world, beef, chicken meat etc are transported not Cow and live animals.

Nigeria has kept people like you in the stone age... grin

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by blackaxe78: 10:46am On Jul 04, 2018
2tpick:

Please Sir what will be your fate if you aint willing for any of the above? Would they respect your opinion?

That would be unfair. Imagine if such is also reciprocated by them. Will it be fair?
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by Lilimax(f): 10:49am On Jul 04, 2018
saaron:
BUHARI'S TERRORIST GOVT TACTICS;
MASSACRE CHRISTIANS THROUGH MIYETTI ALLAH TERRORIST, THEN OFFER DECEPTIVE REMEDY LIKE GIVING YOUR LAND TO LIBYAN HERDSMEN AS THE FINAL SOLUTION TO STOP THE GENOCIDE.
BUHARI'S TERRORIST GOVT NOW USING THREATS OF VIOLENCE AND BLOODSHED TO COERCE NIGERIANS TO SUBMIT TO MIYETTI ALLAH.
KNOW YOU KNOW WHO ARE BEHIND THE GENOCIDE IN MIDDLE BELT.[/b]
If you have been in doubt about this terrorist govt's complicity in the genocide against middle belt Christians, here is your EMPIRICAL PROOF!
Remember what Miyetti Allah terrorist said? All land in Nigeria belongs to them and unless Nigerians give them a piece of their land, the genocide will not stop. Basically speaking, they are saying unless you give them your land for their cow rearing business, you will be visited with violence and bloodshed in your homes.
I said this several times and I will say it again, Middle belt people must organize themselves and drag buhari and Miyetti Allah terrorist to ICC for genocide against Christians in middle belt.

You don't need a special brain to know that buhari's govt and Miyetti Allah are the culprits behind plateau genocide!
Bloody terrorist govt.

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by ogtavia(m): 10:49am On Jul 04, 2018
I wonder what tribe will accept this man after this tenure because if the Yoruba tribe accepts him then it will reflect poorly on them.

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by blackaxe78: 10:50am On Jul 04, 2018
mank1234:


That's because friesland won't go on a killing spree when it's business is attacked by unknown hoodlums. If traders who travel to buy goods and are attacked by hoodlums turn around to attacks nearby communities, will you be as supportive as you're to your brothers?

What causes the attack?
Are you aware every criminal perpetrated is now linked to herdsmen ?

When you confine them and ban open grazing, this herdsmen and thier herds can be recorded and tagged conveniently. Any one wanting outside it becomes a criminal.

You have to look at root cause to attack issues and it's just "What's causing the clashes"

Am sure the moguls who do the business don't even want it cos it will be more expensive for them. Ranching is more expensive than open grazing
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by Ategberoson(m): 10:50am On Jul 04, 2018
you're just too dumb if you feel buhari isn't involve in the killing going on in middlebelt. that's why miyetti Allah won't be arrested if you like cry blood



Femi Adesina spoke buhari's direct mind

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by TalkingBird: 10:52am On Jul 04, 2018
Adesina Asked about the ancestral attachment by the people of those states to their lands, he said: “Ancestral attachment? You can only have ancestral attachment when you are alive. If you are talking about ancestral attachment, if you are dead, how does the attachment matter? “The National Economic Council that recommended ranching didn’t just legislate it, there were recommendations. “So, if your state genuinely does not have land for ranching, it is understandable; not every state will have land for ranches. But where you have land and you can do something, please do for peace. What will the land be used for if those who own it are dead at the end of the day?”



Kai!
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by UncleJudax(m): 10:55am On Jul 04, 2018
blackaxe78:



No one is harassing you to give up your land. It's a recommendation which you have a right to accept or reject. But when you rejecting, you have to proffer better solution.

So we start importing fresh beef from New Zealand to Nigeria? Sigh... If you quite aware of the podium your suggestion puts you, you won't repeat it.

Please don't suggest such among highly learned intellectuals. It's an embarrassment.
Dude shout up. You are not learned.

You are asking me how meat from North will get to the south? Damn

Nigeria import almost everything.

In same Nigeria where Oil from the SS is ferried to Kaduna to be refined? grin

You are a proud illiterate.

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by blackaxe78: 10:55am On Jul 04, 2018
UncleJudax:

See how you reason in Nigeria?

I studied in the north...I distinguished myself. Graduated with 4.3 CGPA...now in a master program in Europe.

So what is your point?

Get this; in developed world, beef, chicken meat etc are transported not Cows and live animals.

Nigeria has kept people like you in the stone age... grin


Stop giving false informational please.

As for your CGPA in relation to your initial reasoning, it's a Northern school where an average Western student can make over that. Your competitors were herdsmen. You were just a one eyed man among the blind. Am sure that's why you went for a master's to brace it.

Being in Europe is not a guarantee to being enlightened. An example is you.
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by mank1234(m): 10:58am On Jul 04, 2018
blackaxe78:


What intentions?

Do you have a better solution? Share if if it's logical and meaningful and stop politicising a solution that is glaring will curb the menace.

A government that at several times said that the killers are from other countries cannot be trusted. How can you take land from your people and give to those from other countries on a platter of gold.
What use is immigration if our borders cannot be secured?
What use is NIA if we cannot gather intelligence on these attacks rather than speculate?
What use if federal police if it cannot secure itself rather than being partisan?

In benue, they claim their law is what causes mayhem. In others it's attacks by hoodlums which only comes up after they must have attacked the communities. No conclusive investigation is ever carried out in all these nor culprits punished. If the conflicts is between farmers and herders government should bring out the farmers and the herders to stand trial to forestall future occurrence.

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by soliddust2020: 10:59am On Jul 04, 2018
Billygee2u:

that's Afonjas nature, watch out Tinubu,has he said any meaningful thing about the killings or condemn his fulani slave masters?

Tinubu is obviously afraid to speak up because he knws the monster he created.

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by ogene007: 11:01am On Jul 04, 2018
zxcvb:




You are a Bastard...

Jonathan a bigger bastard

Kanu the biggest bastard


Bleep Biafra, it shall never b well with late Biafra, mad men
Please, focus on the moronic statement made by Femi Adeshina which has further proven the collusion of FG in the killings as well as confirming that TY Danjuma was correct in his accusation against the Nigerian military. Don't try to shift us away from this issue with your orgasmic reaction whenever you hear IPOB/Biafra. Nigerians now know that there problem was never Biafra/IPOB, but rather, the land grabbing campaign bring orchestrated by PMB and his Fulani herdsmen terrorists.

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by UncleJudax(m): 11:02am On Jul 04, 2018
blackaxe78:



Stop giving false informational please.

As for your CGPA in relation to your initial reasoning, it's a Northern school where an average Western student can make over that. Your competitors were herdsmen. You were just a one eyed man among the blind. Am sure that's why you went for a master's to brace it.

Being in Europe is not a guarantee to being enlightened. An example is you.
again niggaa shout the gfuck up...you are irritating.

One's coursemates don't determine one's final GPA. I didn't compare myself with anybody.

You are mentally impaired if you think spreading herdsmen all over Nigeria is a solution to anything.

Damn...look what underdevelopment has caused

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by blackaxe78: 11:02am On Jul 04, 2018
UncleJudax:

Dude shout up. You are not learned.

You are asking me how meat from North will get to the south? Damn

Nigeria import almost everything.

In same Nigeria where Oil from the SS is ferried to Kaduna to be refined? grin

You are a proud illiterate.

Stop exposing yourself.

Without considering the economic impact of exporting beef, you had the right to suggest importation. I leave you with your present IQ

Comparing oil with Beef is one disaster you will never be forgiven for. What are you trying to imply, that a pipeline be created for cows? Or based on our present rail system, we can get beef on daily basis across to the south? Or you did want to suggest flight?

Am still lost about where you coming from.
Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by kotv: 11:04am On Jul 04, 2018
So he's now threatening the South and Middle belt with death if we do not give out our ancestral lands.

Who else is still in denial that Buhari has a hand in all this killings so far. Now, it makes perfect sense why the fulani wanted this man as president for so long. The jihad movement is real. The fulani are out to steal every land they can think of and install themselves as head just like they've done in every West African communities that mistakingly let them in. Arm yourself people, there's more to come. Anyone still waiting for Buhari to intervene is a fool. Every community in South and Middle belt, arm yourself for your own safety.

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by UncleJudax(m): 11:06am On Jul 04, 2018
blackaxe78:


Stop exposing yourself.

Without considering the economic impact of exporting beef, you had the right to suggest importation. I leave you with your present IQ

Comparing oil with Beef is one disaster you will never be forgiven for. What are you trying to imply, that a pipeline be created for cows? Or based on our present rail system, we can get beef on daily basis across to the south? Or you did want to suggest flight?

Am still lost about where you coming from.

See guy...I be Omo Igbo...so Nothing you fit tell me. I have worked hard to get where I am.

Back to the oil comparison.

If oil from Ss can be ferried to Kaduna, what is the hassle with transporting beef?
Meat transport is a huge business in the West...Una de de eat infection ridden tired cow meat.

The world has evolved, move up or stay down.

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Re: Giving Land For Ranching Better Than Death – Presidency by fuke(m): 11:09am On Jul 04, 2018
I thought Adesina was bright.

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