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Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 9:07pm On May 25, 2007
The questions I asked about your assertions for the Hebrew numbering system still remains unanswered;
You got the answer already,there is NO 0 Number in the original hebrew Bible,just have a look in an original hebrew Bible and see the Fact by yourself.

And the issues you have been pandering have been shown to have no substance
Facts are Facts and are strongers than subtance.
Issues are in your mind only due to your Ego.

If you cannot believe in the Bible

Belief is IGNORANCE.

although you have severally referred to Jesus Christ as "the true Son of God", what really has been your problem with whether anyone was Black or White?
Yashua (wrongly called Jesus Christ) was really Black and i have no problem with this Fact.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 9:12pm On May 25, 2007
In The Bible Adam and Eve heard the voice of which they knew to be God, or the Lord. In order to speak you must have a larynx, and its functions are to produce sounds and keep food from entering the trachea. Does this mean that God eats, which means he needs food, and thus making him in need of a digestive system
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 9:17pm On May 25, 2007
@Horus,

Horus:

You got the answer already,there is NO 0 Number in the original hebrew Bible,just have a look in an original hebrew Bible and see the Fact by yourself.

That is why I asked the question several times and you artfully dodged it because you would only have discovered that you were wrong and were only recycling fallacies which you caould not substantiate.

In the same vein, the fallacy you offered that the Arabs "invented" the zero (0) was debunked. And that is the reason why I have asked that you get your facts straight before you post anything.

Could you please go back and check once again about your assertions? It's easy - just betake yourself a little more on the history of the numbering system, and you will have helped free yourself from the weak premises you ferret from sources that don't have the facts.

Horus:

Facts are Facts and are strongers than subtance.

Facts are facts - and that is why I have presented a few of them to debunk your Arab invention of the zero (0). Facts are facts, and they give rise to substance. Nothing can be said to be worth any substance if your premises are based on fallacies misconstrued as "facts"!!

Horus:

Issues are in your mind only due to your Ego.

Yep, that is why you have been pursuing your own EGO, No??

Horus:

Belief is IGNORANCE.
Yashua (wrongly called Jesus Christ) was really Black and i have no problem with this Fact.

What you believed in preference to the beliefs of others simply demonstrate your own ignorance - especially where they have been laid to rest.

Horus:

In The Bible Adam and Eve heard the voice of which they knew to be God, or the Lord. In order to speak you must have a larynx, and its functions are to produce sounds and keep food from entering the trachea. Does this mean that God eats, which means he needs food, and thus making him in need of a digestive system

This again shows you have no idea what you're seeking and have been shlepping up all kinds of infantile drivels to push your weak assumptions. This is in the same category with your drivel about John being an English name and therefore you had a problem with that.

God spoke to Adam and Eve, but He didn't need to be boxed up in your reductionist idea before you can receive the declaration.

Afterall, you have your own ideas about a 'black Jesus' whom you call the Son of GOD. May I ask you if God spoke to that black Jesus??
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 9:43pm On May 25, 2007
you artfully dodged it because you would only have discovered that you were wrong and were only recycling fallacies which you caould not substantiate.
Everybody can find an original Hebrew bible and see by themself that there were no numbers in the original Hebrew bible .Have a look at it.

that is why you have been pursuing your own EGO
Fact do not have Ego but belief is Ego it refusing to see Fact that belief is IGNORANCE.

What you believed in preference to the beliefs, 

I do not believe,belief is IGNORANCE.

God spoke to Adam and Eve
God do not spoke,In order to speak you must have a larynx.

May I ask you if God spoke to that black Jesus??
God do not speak,The white Jesus never existed (only in Holywood movie)
The one you call, that black Jesus is Yashua and was real.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 9:50pm On May 25, 2007
@Horus,

Horus:

Everybody can find an original Hebrew bible and see by themself that there were no numbers in the original Hebrew bible .Have a look at it.

I have. That is why I asked you to to go check on the history of Hebrew numbering system. Please do me that favour and answer the question. When did the Hebrew numbering system begin??

Horus:

Fact do not have Ego but belief is Ego it refusing to see Fact that belief is IGNORANCE.

That is why I have applied the very same inference to your arguements. At some point, you actually believe your arguments you post, not so?? If at all you do, then we can celebrate your own ignorance. If you don't then you've been wasting your own time.

Horus:

I do not believe,belief is IGNORANCE.

Great. So we can call off your bluff of the bacl Jesus, yes?? Hurray! cool

Horus:

God do not spoke,In order to speak you must have a larynx.

Good. So your black jesus was just a black man without nothing worth hearing about?

Horus:

God do not speak,The white Jesus never existed (only in Holywood movie)

Another great "black" reasoning. I can sympathise with your own belief where 'God' never speaks.

Horus:

The one you call, that black Jesus is Yashua and was real.

Em, do you really believe in your own assumptions? If yes, is that not worth the celebration of your own ignorance? wink
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 9:53pm On May 25, 2007
The Jebusite (so-called Jew) claim that the quote in Genesis 12:3 where Yashuwa blessed Abraham, son of Terah and I quote, "and curse those who cursed him," applies to them. Christians also believe this lie, and feel this is the reason they must aid the state of Israel, for if they oppose them, they would be cursed.
This quote was referring to Abraham only, not the Jebusites. Genesis further tells you by Abraham; all families of the Earth are blessed. This is not referring to the Jebusite who the bible already stated were a cursed albino seed from Canaan.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 9:56pm On May 25, 2007
I have
Scan some page of it and show us those number on it.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 9:58pm On May 25, 2007
@Horus,

Horus:

The Jebusite (so-called Jew) claim that the quote in Genesis 12:3 where Yashuwa blessed Abraham, son of Terah and I quote, "and curse those who cursed him," applies to them. Christians also believe this lie, and feel this is the reason they must aid the state of Israel, for if they oppose them, they would be cursed.

I'm one of those who believes what the Bible teaches. My ignorance? Yep, but I still believe it. That is the reason why even as a black man, I'm still blessed!   cheesy

Horus:

This quote was referring to Abraham only, not the Jebusites. Genesis further tells you by Abraham; all families of the Earth are blessed. This is not referring to the Jebusite who the bible already stated were a cursed albino seed from Canaan.

Where you read albino in that passage is another celebration of your ignorance. Meanwhile, God's covenant with Abraham is being enjoyed by people from all over the world.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 9:59pm On May 25, 2007
, to your arguements,
I do not argue,There is no need to argue with Facts.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 10:03pm On May 25, 2007
Horus:

Scan some page of it and show us those number on it.

If I did, would you understand Hebrew? If you could understand Hebrew, why is it so difficult for you to proffer an answer to the question I have asked about WHEN the Hebrew numbering system began??

Why is it so difficult for you to face simple issues, Horus?? Is this this style of people who celebrate their own stylized "FACTS" while passing off their ignorance?

Horus:

I do not argue,There is no need to argue with Facts.

I hear you. If you have any FACTS - please offer an answer to the question I have served you SEVERAL times.

At least, I had to offer you an answer to show you how wrong you were about Arabs "inventing" the zero (0). If I was wrong, you would have come back pointing me to the lines where I got it wrong. Now in fair exchange, do the sensible thing and go back in history about that of the Hebrew numbering system so that you can see where you have been shortchanged.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 10:07pm On May 25, 2007
That is the reason why even as a black man
From Racist zionist Jew you became a Black man??

cursed albino seed from Canaan
Yes that is correct Canaan was an albino and gave birth to the Pale race.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 10:10pm On May 25, 2007
We still waitingScan some page of this original Hebrew Bible and show us those number on it.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by gbadex1(m): 10:12pm On May 25, 2007
Look, let's get straight to the point and not beat around the bush.

Horus, admit it. You have a deep-seated prejudice against whites.

The sooner you admit it, the better you learn how to deal with it. There's a saying - "The first step to solving a problem is acknowledging there is a problem".

If you allege Christianity is the "white man's religion" -whatever that means- then doesn't that contradict your claims of a Black Jesus?

Truth is, you can't have it both ways. You can't accuse a belief system of being a fraud, then try validating a figure of that belief system for your prejudiced agenda.

Like Telly B once asked -

   What really is your fear?
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 10:13pm On May 25, 2007
@Horus,

Horus:

From Racist zionist Jew you became a Black man??

Thank you. I never made that calim other than stating that I'm Black and proud to be one.

Horus:

Yes that is correct Canaan was an albino and gave birth to the Pale race.

The racist slant again. And your black-movement source for this is. . . ??

Horus:

We still waitingScan some page of this original Hebrew Bible and show us those number on it.

Horus, grow up. Provide answers to the questions I offered you and the you will see what you still are missing. If you can't do so, simply let me know.  cool
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 10:15pm On May 25, 2007
gbade. x:

Horus, admit it. You have a deep-seated prejudice against whites.

He hasn't grown up to realize that. Sad that he thinks it's a personal issue between himself and me.

gbade. x:

Like Telly B once asked -

What really is your fear?

He won't tell you. Rather, you'd have to deduce that from his posts - and you already have. cheesy
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 10:28pm On May 25, 2007
We still waitingScan some page of this original Hebrew Bible and show us those number on it.
You know that it is best to just do a scanning of pages because everybody will see the fact.You can do it,so show us

You have a deep-seated prejudice against whites.
Show us with the help of a quote from my previous post that i hate whites.
But You might have a deep-seated prejudice against Black African as a Racist Zionist Jew.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 10:33pm On May 25, 2007
@Horus,

Horus:

We still waitingScan some page of this original Hebrew Bible and show us those number on it.
You know that it is best to just do a scanning of pages because everybody will see the fact.You can do it,so show us

I know that, and I could as well easily do that. Here is a sample quote in Hebrew language which I would like you to interpret:

יג וַיֹּאמֶר חַגַּי מַלְאַךְ יְהוָה, בְּמַלְאֲכוּת יְהוָה--לָעָם לֵאמֹר: אֲנִי אִתְּכֶם, נְאֻם-יְהוָה.

Just simply work on that for now. If you really are not celebrating your ignorance here, then do me the favour of an answer to the history of the Hebrew numbering system. If you can't do so, then I could simply draw my inference and leave you to your worst fears.

Cheers. smiley
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 10:36pm On May 25, 2007
And where are the number?You must think we Africans are stupids
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 10:39pm On May 25, 2007
Horus:

And where are the number?You must think we Africans are stupids

Just simply work on interpreting that single line. About "we Africans" being stupid, I don't know how you're porving that in your desperations just now.

Horus, do you know Hebrew?? Please simply interpret that one line and convince me. Thank you.  smiley
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 10:42pm On May 25, 2007
there were no numbers in the original Hebrew bible
WHERE ARE THE NUMBER
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by dinnerm(f): 10:44pm On May 25, 2007
undecided,what's the purpose of this topic,does not make sense,if you have problem with the Word Of God then you have the biggest,unsolveable problem on earth.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 10:47pm On May 25, 2007
@Horus,

I've noticed that when people like you have come to your titters end, you begin to sound so desperate. It's the usual games your lot play, and I'm quite aquainted with that.

Keep screaming.  If you don't know Hebrew, you only will continue to pass off the ignorance you've been spoon fed. Interpret this, please, and convince your readers that you know a bit of Hebrew:

יג וַיֹּאמֶר חַגַּי מַלְאַךְ יְהוָה, בְּמַלְאֲכוּת יְהוָה--לָעָם לֵאמֹר: אֲנִי אִתְּכֶם, נְאֻם-יְהוָה.

If you yet CANNOT, simply preserve your integrity so we don't take you for what you're not supposed to be.

Thanks again.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 10:50pm On May 25, 2007
Open the a real page of the original Hebrew bible and do a REAL Scanning,who you think you are going to trick with your fake scanning??
Everybody can see that it is not a real Scanning with a scanner from a real page of  the original Hebrew bible.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 10:53pm On May 25, 2007
Horus,

DO YOU KNOW HEBREW AT ALL?? The interpret that statement I typed in simple Hebrew.

When I get to the library, I'll scan the page of the Torah you're requesting.

You have accused others of being IGNORANT. Great. If you CANNOT do the simple request here and all you do is make this beggarly noise, you will only confirm your own ignorance all the more.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 10:58pm On May 25, 2007
When I get to the library, I'll scan the page of the Torah you're requesting
Why The Torah?This topic is about the BIBLE,you really think African have no brain,and this is typical of racist Zionist like you.
BIBLE not TORAH.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TayoD(m): 11:04pm On May 25, 2007
Men, and I thought babs787 was confused.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 11:06pm On May 25, 2007
@Horus,

Okay, Horus. I hear you. You're only further confirming what has been said about you.  smiley

Torah. . . Bible: what's the difference? If a line in Hebrew gets you so frantic, would you even do better if you saw anything else in the Torah/Jewish Bible?

Besides, thanks again for the racist Zionist slobber - it just doesn't accentuate your scholarship (if you had any at all).

See, don't waste your time if you've got nothing to offer in your noise. You can continue your games; at least, you've demonstrated that you know nothing at all.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 11:06pm On May 25, 2007
@TayoD,

TayoD:

Men, and I thought babs787 was confused.

Na wah. This one na another brand!! cheesy
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 11:15pm On May 25, 2007
Look i don't need bla bla bla OK!!!!!!!!!!just show the number Ok instead of sarcasms
You said you got it for scanning,so why now you have to get to the library to get it??
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TellyB(m): 11:23pm On May 25, 2007
@Horus,

Sarcasm? And you didn't see those in your several posts?

I don't own nor sleep in the library. If I could get there tomorrow, I'd scan a page for you as I don't have a personal copy. It's quite simply in HEBREW - and if you can't read anything in the language, then what's the point bothering to oblige you anything more?

I've asked questions - you've not given answers. If you don't want to proffer answers to my questions, I went one step further to offer you some answers to what I called your attention to about the faulty inference of the Arabs "inventing" the zero (0) digit.

In the same way, I offered you to go through the same process and check out the history of the HEBREW numbering system; you have NOT done so, and that is why you keep going round in circles.

Horus, thanks for demonstrating that your assumptions have no basis at all. From this point on, you can keep up with your games and wallow in whatever tickles you. I've only come off deeply impressed with one thing:

             You DON'T have a clue what you're talking about!!!

Regards.
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by TayoD(m): 11:41pm On May 25, 2007
@topic and questioner,

1.  According to your Bible I am to believe that human kind is sinful and suffering from Adam and Eve eating the fruit of knowledge.  Why are we being punished for the original sin?  After all, they ate the forbidden fruit, we didn’t.  Reason would lead one to say it’s their problem, not ours.  Even the bible contradicts itself by claiming in Deuteronomy 24:16, “children shall not be punished for the sins of their fathers.”

The Bible does not teach that we are being punished for Adam's sin. Rather the Bible teaches that through Adam, sin entered the world - Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men,   The Bible is very clear that what a man is in the habit of sowing, he is in the habit of reaping. You can blame God for anything you can think of, but you are the one responsible for your faith or otherwise in the abundant grace He has provided in Christ Jesus (can't blame Adam for that):  Romans 5:16-17 For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification.  For if by the one man's offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.) 
Re: 13 Problems I Have With The Bible by Horus(m): 12:09am On May 26, 2007
Sarcasm? And you didn't see those in your several posts?
No i deal with Facts,you are a Real Racist Zionist Jews.

I've asked questions - you've not given answers
It is me who posted about the number in the original Hebrew Bible first,and it is you who stated that there is number so you have to show it with the scanning of those pages.
If the arabe created the (o) or not will NOT change the result of the scanning.Dont change Topic

In the same way, I offered you to go through the same process and check out the history of the HEBREW numbering system; you have NOT done so, and that is why you keep going round in circles.
No, i still waiting for the scanning of those Number FROM YOU .you are not honest and a little Sarcastic Racist Zionist like you will not succed in attempting to divide the Africans people on this forum.

You DON'T have a clue what you're talking about!!!

No, you dont have a clue about what I AM talking about
Where are the Number??

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