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Re: Grace Is Not Enough by LadyExcellency: 3:59pm On Aug 12, 2018
djon78:





New birth, salvation came after Jesus paid for the sins of the whole world. Jesus was called the lamb of God that took away the sins of the world.

Salvation is a gift from God. We couldn't save ourselves. Jesus paid the price with his own life, blood. He obtained eternal redemption for us.

So it has nothing to do with our efforts. Our effort couldn't save us. And this makes me to even love the Lord more.

In 1 John it says that herein is love, Jesus died for us even when we hated him. It was his love for us that made God take the cloak of flesh.

Do you know that the second person of the Trinity is a man with body just like you and I. And it is that glorified body we will wear on the resurrection day.

Book of Hebrews calls it so great a salvation.

Christianity is not just mere rhetoric it is very deep. When you begin to grow in the Lord and your eyes is opened, you will understand more.


Then in addition when studying the Bible, you need to understand somethings. Reading just English version of the Bible, there are many things you cannot get it full understanding.


The English Bible was not the original language of the Bible. So English Bible will not give you the full meaning.

The Bible has three original language. The old testament was written in Hebrews. The New Testament was written in Greek. Then there was another old testament translation of Bible in Greek called Septuagint. The Septuagint was translated 200 years before Christ was born during the time of Alexander the great.

During the time of Christ, Rome was ruling politically while the language mostly spoken then was Greek. So all the new testament writers wrote in Greek language. The Bible that Jesus read in the synagogue where he quoted the spirit of God is upon me was the Septuagint.

Why am I saying this; you will have deeper understanding of the Bible.

Example in Isaiah 53. Psalm 103 Vs 2 to 5. 1 Peter 2 Vs 24. You will find out that Jesus paid the price for our sins and our sicknesses. It was not just salvation from sin but health for our bodies.

That was why Jesus and his disciples went about healing people sick. The Bible say Jesus will enter a city and heal everyone sick. Not even one sick person was left unhealed. Likewise the disciples.

But today you will see many people of God being tormented by sicknesses and diseases. You will see many people sick and Christians can't do any thing.

In the great commission Jesus told us to go into all the world and preach the gospel/goodnews. And this signs shall follow believers they will lay hands on the sick and they will recover.

So why is there so much inability for the church to do that?

It is simply unbelief and lack of knowledge of Gods word.

Why were believers being baptized during Jesus Outreaches?

What was the purpose of Jesus disciples baptizing believers during Jesus Outreaches?

But Jesus saved the thief on the cross before his death - how?
Re: Grace Is Not Enough by LadyExcellency: 4:04pm On Aug 12, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
Saying no born again Christian fornicates is the same as saying no born again Christian sins. As long as you are in the flesh, you will always commit one sin or another. The flesh is weak.

We have many Christians that have backslidden. Remember his word, the wind blew and they got uprooted because they were not rooted in his word.

Hypocrites and backsliders have denied the cross hence no more worthy to drink the cup of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The bible enjoins Christians to eat with sinners but not to eat with the fornicators in the church (that is the so-called Christian)
Re: Grace Is Not Enough by djon78(m): 4:04pm On Aug 12, 2018
alBHAGDADI:

Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


You might get punished on earth for your fornication e.g STD, AIDS etc. It might even drain you mentally. But that doesn't mean you have lost your salvation. It is a gift from God which He won't take back.

If you continue sinning, then you stand the chance of continue getting punished here on earth. It is the same as smoking and drinking heavily when such is not good for one's health. When it starts to affect your health, you know you have reaped the reward for disobedience.

Now, fornication and other sins are not what damns you to hell fire. What damns you is lack of believe in Jesus Christ. An example is when He says ''It is Finished'' but you say you have to continue doing works to save yourself. He has done it all.

In a nutshell, your sins might get you punishment here on earth and prevent you from certain rewards in Heaven, but your not believing in Jesus and all He stands for is what gets you damned in hell.

Pls, read my other posts on this thread to learn more.



It all boils down to ignorance of the word. In 1 Corinthians it says do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. We have to glorify God in our body.
We should not be comfortable with sin, if we are truly God's. Living in sin is different from making mistake. If we enjoy sin, then our salvation is questionable?

How you know you are Gods is when you make mistake you are remorseful. Your heart condemns you. But when someone sins and doesn't feel anything, no remorse, then the person is far away from God.
Re: Grace Is Not Enough by biggy26: 4:42pm On Aug 12, 2018
Pataricatering:
this is why I run as far as my legs can carry me when I hear born again Christian ! What you are saying now is you can go on a murder spree , lie , cheat , rob , steal - all you need to enter the kingdom of God is grace ! You people are just demonic !
I don't know what or who you worship, but always ask God for wisdom so you don't expose foolishness in public.
Re: Grace Is Not Enough by Nobody: 6:45pm On Aug 12, 2018
alBHAGDADI:


You are not crucifying Jesus anew when you sin. No bible verse says such. You will always sin because you are in the flesh. If it is by not sinning we make heaven, then Jesus death on the cross is not needed. We will just abstain from sin. But God knows it is impossible for man to not sin, that's why He gave his son as a sacrifice to redeem us from the condemnation of sin. His blood pays the price for our sins.

The talk of crucifying Jesus anew is just a man-made talk, not Biblical.

Brother,
I'm gonna have to "agree to disagree" with you on all of what you just wrote..except Christ' death on the cross to pay for our sins and to redeem a lost world.
Never-ending debates/arguments are what drew me away from the Religion section.
As I have newly returned, I've chosen to present "knowledge" in a hopefully sincere, balanced and scripturally informative way and then always end with urging folks to pray for the Holy Spirit to guide them into all truth.
No harm meant to you...
Take care
Re: Grace Is Not Enough by OBAGADAFFI: 8:39pm On Aug 12, 2018
alBHAGDADI:


You are not crucifying Jesus anew when you sin. No bible verse says such. You will always sin because you are in the flesh. If it is by not sinning we make heaven, then Jesus death on the cross is not needed. We will just abstain from sin. But God knows it is impossible for man to not sin, that's why He gave his son as a sacrifice to redeem us from the condemnation of sin. His blood pays the price for our sins.

The talk of crucifying Jesus anew is just a man-made talk, not Biblical.

Hebrew 6:6
If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame

I noticed you beleive in eternal salvation.

Shall we continue to sin that grace may abound? God forbid.
Re: Grace Is Not Enough by emerged01(m): 4:42pm On Aug 16, 2018
Mobilia:



Sister,
I'm sincerely sorry you feel that way. I would run as well if that was the gospel being preached to me...
When people preach that "grace" is ALL that's needed, then they are preaching a "false" gospel.
They may be truly sincere in believing that, but they are wrong.
There are thousands of false doctrines floating around through Christendom....and this is probably one of the top 3 most dangerous ones.
On behalf of Christianity, I apologize that we have so caused so many folks to be confused, irritated and frustrated. The only way you won't be confused is by praying to the Holy Spirit for proper understanding of scripture.
Let me say this:
The Bible is extremely clear that we are not to trample on God's grace. That means that although He has paid the penalty for our sins, we are NOT to remain in them.
God has laid out what He thinks about continual sin in the book of
1 Corinthians 6:9-11.
God bless you!

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Re: Grace Is Not Enough by Nobody: 9:15pm On Aug 16, 2018
iupac120:
Yes. Grace is not enough. After giving your life to Christ , do you stop there?
There are other things that are needed to make your christian race a smooth sail which include sanctification, prayer,meditation, studying the bible, holiness, righteousness, Purity of heart, fruits of the spirit, etc.
Finally, knowing that Christ might tarry you have to walk in the spirit and they that are led by the spirit are called sons of God.
Walk in the spirit!!! (Galatians 5:16)
grace is enough. you don't give what you don't have. you can't give your life to Christ rather you receive eternal life from him. yes there are other things to do to receive good reward from the Lord but this does not include eternal life.
the Spirit is also called the Spirit of grace. without grace we perish.

grace is the summation of what Christ has done for us on the cross.

Sanctification is through the blood of Jesus and also an ongoing process for a believer through the word of Christ ( the bible) and the his Spirit.
we walk in the Spirit when we walk in the reality of what he has done for us, it also means to walk out our salvation.
Re: Grace Is Not Enough by NewsOnline: 12:04am On Sep 21, 2018
Grace is not enough? So you have to keep the law in order to be righteous? Please stop with the propagation of this evil thing that Paul calls “doctrines of demons” in 1 Timothy 4:1. The law is not of faith. Doctrines of demons try to remove the focus of believers from the truth which is righteousness by faith in Christ and tries to get people struggling to attain the same righteousness that Christ died that we might have by keeping the law. These are people who misinterpret "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?" This is the result of those who are trying to get right with God by keeping the law:

“For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace.” Galatians 5:4.

God’s grace is sufficient for the believer for every good work. The arm of flesh will fail, but many trust themselves and depend on their own human effort. Being under grace and not living right is as impossible as jumping into the sea naked without getting wet. The Holy Spirit transforms even the vilest offender who believes to live right. But peddlers of false doctrines tell you to depend on the arm of flesh (human effort at law.-keeping) that will fail in order to be godly and reject the power of the Holy Spirit to transform even the vilest offender who believes.

Saying things like “Yes we are saved by grace but we still have to keep the law in order to be godly and bear fruit to God” is akin to saying to Sarah: “Sarah, God’s grace is not enough to give you a child. You have to go to Hagar to get a child to fulfill God’s promise in your life.” See Paul's typology of Hagar and Sarah as the two covenants of Law and Grace respectively. Sarah (Grace) did not need Hagar (Law) to raise Isaac the church. Grace is enough.

Saying things like: ”so it okay for a pastor that is fornicating to continue to fornicate because of Grace” is akin to believing that Peter remained a liar and Christ-denier after he was restored by Grace himself. We see "Where sin abounds, Grace abounds much more" in the life of Peter. He sinned against God with His mouth, was restored by Grace and ended up preaching a public sermon where three thousand people got saved, in the presence of the law-keeping religious people that made him lie and were still out to kill Jesus' followers. Grace abounding much more where sin abounds is like quenching a lit matchstick (sin) with 1.,000 gallons of water (Grace.) Sin doesn't stand a chance under Grace. And it has got nothing to do with human effort aka self-righteousness.

Grace is the power of God to salvation, even salvation from sins. Without Grace, Sarah would be barren forever; Peter would remain in his sin; the woman caught in adultery that proponents of the law wanted to stone to death would have got the death that she deserved; no amount of promises to obey the law and promises to live right from now on could have saved her from the judgment of the law that she deserved. Yet here is your post telling people to go and do things to redeem themselves from the judgment of the law in order to live! It is impossible. Only the blood of Jesus will suffice as payment for us to escape the judgment that we all deserved; add law-keeping to it (neither cold nor hot; neither under law under grace) and get cut off from Christ to face the full wrath of God-

"For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace.” Galatians 5:4.

Only when we receive God’s abundance of grace and His gift of righteousness to us in Christ do we get to “live in triumph over sin and death through the one, Jesus Christ.” (Romans 5:17.)

Paul said of God and His saving grace in Romans 3: “26 ...for He Himself is fair and just, and He makes sinners right in His sight when they believe in Jesus. 27 Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. 28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.”

Again in Galatians 3:10- “But those who depend on the law to make them right with God are under His curse, for the Scriptures say, “Cursed is everyone who does not observe and obey all the commands that are written in God’s Book of the Law.”” No one can. All have sinned.

Paul preached this gospel of grace so unashamedly that religious people of his time who wanted to be under law falsely accused him of preaching that it is okay to sin because of grace (Romans .3:7-cool Hence Paul’s question: “Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?” Paul was asking: do all these things that I said in my letters- that we are made right through faith and not by obeying the law - do they mean that we can just go and be sinning anyhow? But people who have not bothered to read and understand the Word bandy the verse about as meaning we have to obey the law in order to be righteous; as if all we grace children want to do is commit sin. Like our Heavenly Father, we hate sin. Can you imagine feeling great guilt and condemnation and expecting punishment because you responded with 12 o’clock when the time was really 12.01? Not to talk of big sins like not picking your phone because you don’t want to talk to someone. That is how much we want to sin. The truth is, for many of us who are under grace, we had been trying our best to obey the law so much that it brought us to the end of our tethers. No matter how hard we tried, we could not. There was always “ one thing you lack..” as Christ said to the rich young ruler who thought he was quite good at keeping the law. Those who think they can obey in order to score points with God have no idea about its severity. We grace childen got so exhausted trying to obey the law that the purpose of the law that many are trying to keep in order to be godly was fulfilled in us. See the purpose of the law in Galatians 3:19 and Romans 3:19-

“19 Why then was the law given? It was meant to be an intermediary agreement added after God gave the promise of the coming One! It was given to show men how guilty they are, and it remained in force until the Seed was born to fulfill the promises given to Abraham....” Galatians 3:19

“19 Obviously, the law applies to those to whom it was given, for its purpose is to keep people from having excuses, and to show that the entire world is guilty before God. 20 For no one can ever be made right with God by doing what the law commands. The law simply shows us how sinful we are.” Romans 3:19-20.

Like the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, trying to keep the law in order to be godly (be like God) will only expose your unclothedness (unrighteousness) and cause sin and death to have dominion, just as it was with Adam and Eve. See Paul’s typology of the tree as a picture of the law that many are trying to keep in order to be godly (be like God) in Romans 7:8-12 (MSG)

“Don’t you remember how it was? I do, perfectly well. The law code started out as an excellent piece of work. What happened, though, was that sin found a way to pervert the command into a temptation, making a piece of “forbidden fruit” out of it. The law code, instead of being used to guide me, was used to seduce me....”

Satan, through his ministers that try to add law to grace and say things like “grace is not enough” is still trying to seduce people into trying to be godly (be like God) by human effort at keeping the law, but sin has dominion here, “ For sin shall not have dominion over you for you are not under law but under Grace.” Romans 6:14.

Grace is a Person. His name is Jesus Christ. Titus 2:14 says of Him: “He gave His life to free us from every kind of sin, to cleanse us, and to make us His very own people, totally committed to doing good deeds.” But what this OP is saying is that you have to transform yourself by the arm of flesh (human effort) that will fail. Those who can do this do not need Jesus and have been cut off from Christ.

You misinterpret what it means to walk in the Spirit. With the Spirit of the Lord, it is “not by might, not by power.” No human effort- like Sarah giving birth to Isaac. Remember Ishmael was born according to the flesh (by human effort) and Isaac "according to the Spirit (purely by God's power.) So you think you can obey the law and do right by your own effort? This is the height of foolishness and pride- to trust in the arm of flesh that will fail. Peter thought so too, until he was tempted beyond what he could bear. The potential to commit heinous crimes is in everybody. God sees this potential and how favorable circumstances can make some people boast in their non-existent ability to obey the law and not commit particular sins. These are the ones who say "but we still have to keep the law to be right with God," contradicting God's word!- "For no one can ever be made right with God by doing what the law commands. The law simply shows us how sinful we are." Romans 3:20.

So you think you can never commit adultery, be gay or murder someone- you who have no control over what will happen to you within the hour? The reason why we are not committing particular sins is because we have not been tempted beyond what we can bear in those areas!

For those who think they can “at least try” to obey the law and do good things in order to be godly, this is why you are not wallowing in sins right now- 1 Corinthians 2:

“12 So beware if you think it could never happen to you, lest your pride becomes your downfall. 13 We all experience times of testing, which is normal for every human being. But God will be faithful to you. He will screen and filter the severity, nature, and timing of every test or trial you face so that you can bear it. And each test is an opportunity to trust Him more, for along with every trial God has provided for you a way of escape that will bring you out of it victoriously.”

If it were not for God’s restraining Hand, we would all be wallowing in heinous sins by now, so let’s not boast in our non-existent ability to keep the law.

The law is not of faith. No way to bear fruit to God or do anything that is pleasing to God for that matter when one is trying to keep the law and thus is separated from Christ. God does not recognise Ishmael who is a picture of the product of works of the law. Abide in Christ. Keep on believing Him and you will bear much fruit. Christ said so- John 15:5-

“Yes, I am the Vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in Me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from Me you can do nothing."

See the TPT: “I am the Sprouting Vine and You’re My branches. As you live in union with Me as your Source, fruitfulness will stream from within you—but when you live separated from Me you are powerless."

Effortlessly and no human effort involved, like Sarah giving birth to Isaac.

Rest in Christ is not inactivity. Rest in Christ is Holy Spirit-directed activity. And with the Spirit of the Lord, it is not by might nor by power. Human striving is not involved. His strength is made perfect in weakness, not in those who deceive themselves by thinking that they still have some strength to obey the law and live above weaknesses, including acts of sin, by their own power, for

9 "Each time He said, “My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness.” So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me." 2 Corinthians 12:9.

Christ died to make us godly. By grace, let's let go of our puny attempts at keeping the law and doing its works in order to get God to bless or be godly and rest in the finished work of Christ in making the sinner who believes righteous. Right living will follow. God gives us ALL things FREELY with Christ.

Right believing always produces right living

For those who would like to know more about God’s saving Grace, even salvation from sins and addictions:

http://rightbelieving101..com/2018/09/about-much-misinterpreted-but-be-doers.html
http://rightbelieving101..com/2018/09/so-you-are-saying-that-it-is-okay-for_18.html
http://rightbelieving101..com/2018/09/god-recognizes-only-one-son-of-abraham.html
Re: Grace Is Not Enough by NewsOnline: 1:39am On Sep 21, 2018
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Re: Grace Is Not Enough by NewsOnline: 1:44am On Sep 21, 2018
OBAGADAFFI:


Hebrew 6:6
If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame

I noticed you beleive in eternal salvation.

Shall we continue to sin that grace may abound? God forbid.

Don't let fake pastors misinterpet the gospel for you o! See the Hebrews 6:6 that you wrongly interpreted in its context:

"4 It is impossible to restore an apostate. For once a person has come into God’s light, and tasted the gifts of the heavenly realm, and has received the Holy Spirit, 5 and feasted on the good Word of God, and has entered into the power of the age that is breaking in, 6 if he abandons his faith, there is no use even trying to lead him to repentance. By their sin of apostasy they re-crucify the Son of God, and have publicly repudiated Him."

The law is not of faith. "Abandons his faith" is rejecting the gospel of Christ which is "Righteousness by faith." These ones stopped believing that they are righteous by faith and go back to trying to obey the law to get right with God. This is an effort in futility, "For no one can ever be made right with God by doing what the law commands..." Romans 3:20. This is also the way to get cut off from Christ, smack where Satan wants everyone to be:

For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God's grace." Galatians 5:4.

Those who fall away or abandon the faith are Jews or anyone who, after believing Jesus, go back to being under the Law of Moses. Such reject Christ in whom is Salvation as their righteousness so it goes that there is no repentance for such. The only sin that the Holy Spirit convicts of is the sin of unbelief. Christ came to save us from our sins and transform us into His own people who are eager to do what He wants for us. Titus 2:14 says of Him:

"He gave His life to free us from every kind of sin, to cleanse us, and to make us His very own people, totally committed to doing good deeds."

Let's take our blessed brains to church: How can a Saviour who came to save us from our sins use those very sins that He came to save us from as an excuse for not saving us and even punish us for the sins that He came to save us from? This is akin to an oncologist dad refusing to treat his own beloved child who has cancer and even punishing his child for exhibiting symptoms of the disease. Christ came to save us from the cancer that is sin.

In many places of worship, many beloved of God that Christ died forwho are held captive by sins are told to redouble their efforts to stop sinning and obey the law "better" in order to be accepted by God, usually by those who think they have some good in them and think that they can obey the law/transform sinners with the law. This is as useless as a person with HIV expecting to be cured by putting plaster on a festering sore that is as a result of a sickness caused by the virus within. See this in Romans 8:3-4 (MSG)

"...The law always ended up being used as a Band-Aid on sin instead of a deep healing of it. And now what the law code asked for but we couldn’t deliver is accomplished as we, instead of redoubling our own efforts, simply embrace what the Spirit is doing in us."

With the Spirit of the Lord, it is neither by might nor by power. If you can save yourself from your sins, you don't need Jesus. Without Jesus, there is no salvation. In Him, we get to do not works of the law that are done by human effort in order to be godly and are like "a menstrual rag" in God's sight according to Isaiah 64:6 BUT works of faith done by Christ in us, through us and for us. God gets all the glory.

Re: "Shall we continue to sin that grace may abound?" that you have misinterpreted: Paul said of God and His saving grace in Romans 3:

“26 ...for He Himself is fair and just, and He makes sinners right in His sight when they believe in Jesus. 27 Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. 28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.”


Again in Galatians 3:10- “But those who depend on the law to make them right with God are under His curse, for the Scriptures say, “Cursed is everyone who does not observe and obey all the commands that are written in God’s Book of the Law.”” No one can. All have sinned.

This was too hard for people who thought they could obey the law in order to be godly to swallow. Same thing is happening today.

Paul that you quote- "shall we continue to sin that grace may abound" - preached this gospel of grace ("So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.”) He preached so boldly and unashamedly that religious people of his time who wanted to be under law falsely accused him of preaching that it is okay to sin because of grace (Romans .3:7-cool the same way many people who deceive themselves that they can obey the law do to Grace preachers today. Hence Paul’s question: “Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?” Paul was saying that we who are under Grace can never continue to live in sin, and not by human effort but because we are now "slaves of righteousness." God's gift of righteousness to us in Christ.

By that rhetorical question (which Paul answered by himself in the same Romans 6), Paul was asking: do all these things that I said in my letters- that we are made right through faith and not by obeying the law - do they mean that we can just go and be sinning anyhow? But people who have not bothered to read and understand the Word bandy the verse about as meaning Paul said we have to obey the law in order to become righteous. He said no such thing! In fact, he called the Galatian Christians "foolish" and "bewitched" for trying to get God to bless them by doing works of the law in Galatians 3.-

"Oh, foolish Galatians! Who has cast an evil spell on you? For the meaning of Jesus Christ’s death was made as clear to you as if you had seen a picture of His death on the cross. 2 Let me ask you this one question: Did you receive the Holy Spirit by obeying the law of Moses? Of course not! You received the Spirit because you believed the message you heard about Christ. 3 How foolish can you be? After starting your new lives in the Spirit, why are you now trying to become perfect by your own human effort? 4 Have you experienced so much for nothing? Surely it was not in vain, was it?

5 I ask you again, does God give you the Holy Spirit and work miracles among you because you obey the law? Of course not! It is because you believe the message you heard about Christ."

Many think all we grace children want to do is commit sin. Like our Heavenly Father, we hate sin. Can you imagine feeling great guilt and condemnation and expecting punishment because you responded with 12 o’clock when the time was really 12.01? Not to talk of big sins like not picking your phone because you don’t want to talk to someone. That is how much we want to sin. By grace, we put no confidence in human effort. We know that this is how we are able to live in triumph over sin and death as we do: Romans 5:17-

"For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and His gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one Man, Jesus Christ."

The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus. Eternal life is a gift. No way anyone can earn it by keeping the law.

This might interest you: “So you are saying that it is okay for a pastor that is fornicating to continue to fornicate because of Grace?” See the link here for why this can NEVER be under grace:

http://rightbelieving101..com/2018/09/so-you-are-saying-that-it-is-okay-for_18.html?m=1
Re: Grace Is Not Enough by NewsOnline: 11:12am On Sep 21, 2018
This post contradicts God's Word. God's Grace is enough for the believer in Christ! His Word tells us in 2 Corinthians 12:9-

CJB: "but he told me, “My grace is enough for you, for my power is brought to perfection in weakness.” Therefore, I am very happy to boast about my weaknesses, in order that the Messiah’s power will rest upon me."

GNT: "But his answer was: “My grace is all you need, for my power is greatest when you are weak.” I am most happy, then, to be proud of my weaknesses, in order to feel the protection of Christ's power over me."

TLB: "Each time he said, “No. But I am with you; that is all you need. My power shows up best in weak people.” Now I am glad to boast about how weak I am; I am glad to be a living demonstration of Christ’s power, instead of showing off my own power and abilities."

NKJV: "And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

NLV: "He answered me, “I am all you need. I give you My loving-favor. My power works best in weak people.” I am happy to be weak and have troubles so I can have Christ’s power in me."

NLT: "Each time he said, “My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness.” So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

NMB: "And he said to me, My grace is sufficient for you, for my strength is made perfect through weakness. Very gladly therefore will I rest in my weakness, so that the strength of Christ may dwell in me."

No matter the version of the Bible you are reading, it says Christ's strength is made perfect in weakness. He saves us from our sins and imperfections- all weaknesses. If you believe that you are strong enough to keep even the tiniest bit of the law and so add something to Grace to make it "enough", you are saying His grace is not sufficient. Such don't need Jesus. For such, there is no salvation.

Believer, the law is not of faith! By Grace, let's not be found following such "teachings of demons" that try to make believers abandon their (righteousness by) faith through Christ for that self-righteousness that comes from keeping the law. See 1 Timothy 4:1-

"The Spirit says clearly that some people will abandon the faith in later times; they will obey lying spirits and follow the teachings of demons."

This is the crux of the gospel of Christ: RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH.

Doctrines of demons teach that you should abandon God's gift of righteousness (by faith) to us in Christ and seek to be righteous by puny efforts at keeping the law. Only when we receive God's abundance of Grace and His gift of righteousness to us in Christ do we get to "live in triumph over sin and death through the One, Jesus Christ." (Romans 5:17.) But try to obey the law in order to be godly or get right with God and sin will have dominion:

"For sin shall not have dominion over you for you are not under law but under Grace." Romans 6:14.

Sin strengthens its grip over those who say God's grace is not enough and so are trying to be godly/righteous by human effort at keeping the law. This is a doctrine of demons. This is smack where Satan wants everyone to be. Believer, by Grace, let's not be found here.
Re: Grace Is Not Enough by Nobody: 6:24pm On Sep 21, 2018
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This post contradicts God's Word. God's Grace is enough for the believer in Christ! His Word tells us in 2 Corinthians 12:9-

CJB: "but he told me, “My grace is enough for you, for my power is brought to perfection in weakness.” Therefore, I am very happy to boast about my weaknesses, in order that the Messiah’s power will rest upon me."

GNT: "But his answer was: “My grace is all you need, for my power is greatest when you are weak.” I am most happy, then, to be proud of my weaknesses, in order to feel the protection of Christ's power over me."

TLB: "Each time he said, “No. But I am with you; that is all you need. My power shows up best in weak people.” Now I am glad to boast about how weak I am; I am glad to be a living demonstration of Christ’s power, instead of showing off my own power and abilities."

NKJV: "And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

NLV: "He answered me, “I am all you need. I give you My loving-favor. My power works best in weak people.” I am happy to be weak and have troubles so I can have Christ’s power in me."

NLT: "Each time he said, “My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness.” So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

NMB: "And he said to me, My grace is sufficient for you, for my strength is made perfect through weakness. Very gladly therefore will I rest in my weakness, so that the strength of Christ may dwell in me."

No matter the version of the Bible you are reading, it says Christ's strength is made perfect in weakness. He saves us from our sins and imperfections- all weaknesses. If you believe that you are strong enough to keep even the tiniest bit of the law and so add something to Grace to make it "enough", you are saying His grace is not sufficient. Such don't need Jesus. For such, there is no salvation.

Believer, the law is not of faith! By Grace, let's not be found following such "teachings of demons" that try to make believers abandon their (righteousness by) faith through Christ for that self-righteousness that comes from keeping the law. See 1 Timothy 4:1-

"The Spirit says clearly that some people will abandon the faith in later times; they will obey lying spirits and follow the teachings of demons."

This is the crux of the gospel of Christ: RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH.

Doctrines of demons teach that you should abandon God's gift of righteousness (by faith) to us in Christ and seek to be righteous by puny efforts at keeping the law. Only when we receive God's abundance of Grace and His gift of righteousness to us in Christ do we get to "live in triumph over sin and death through the One, Jesus Christ." (Romans 5:17.) But try to obey the law in order to be godly or get right with God and sin will have dominion:

"For sin shall not have dominion over you for you are not under law but under Grace." Romans 6:14.

Sin strengthens its grip over those who say God's grace is not enough and so are trying to be godly/righteous by human effort at keeping the law. This is a doctrine of demons. This is smack where Satan wants everyone to be. Believer, by Grace, let's not be found here.

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He doesn't know what grace is.

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