DonCorleons:
ur wrong bro

very wrong


it should be: may all coup plotters in nigeria die........................ Including the dullard and vegetable u av as presidiot

He can't say that seeing as he's a first-class Buhari minion!

gurnam:
May Agunyi Ironsi, his advisers and backers rot in the deepest part of hell

May the coup plotters of Jan 1966 and July 1966 keep receiving God’s wrath.

Amen.

We have not recovered.

homotayo11:
What is RESTRUCTURING?
Different people with different ideas and opinions.

You people are so evasive and slippery...it's difficult to pin you down on any issue! See you asking what RESTRUCTURING is as if you don't know! You pretend not to know because you know a RESTRUCTURED Nigeria would remove the stranglehold you have on Nigeria; would make politics and governance at the centre less attractive; and would allow regions/states to have control of their resources and destiny and progress at their own pace...thereby leaving you lot behind if you don't pull your socks up!

RESTRRUCTURING Nigeria simply means returning to the status quo pre-1966....with a few adjustments given present day realities! Simple!

masseratti:
what has Kbj, Gej, Yar Adua and PMB Govt solved in their various zones?

we have to see the world differently and pragmatically first of all no govt can totally eradicate relative poverty as long as the world operates on the basis of hierarchy dere would always be poor people secondly so many countries have tribal and ethnic diversity and they operate on the same zoning research on India and Lebanon they are very similar to Nigeria

Xander85:


You people are so evasive and slippery...it's difficult to pin you down on any issue! See you asking what RESTRUCTURING is as if you don't know! You pretend not to know because you know a RESTRUCTURED Nigeria would remove the stranglehold you have on Nigeria; would make politics and governance at the centre less attractive; and would allow regions/states to have control of their resources and destiny and progress at their own pace...thereby leaving you lot behind if you don't pull your socks up!

RESTRRUCTURING Nigeria simply means returning to the status quo pre-1966....with a few adjustments given present day realities! Simple!

Truth be told. I don't support restructuring. I want us to split. Cause after restructuring another crisis will arise.
Then people Will start clamoring for Nigeria to split. That so called northern Nigeria is slowing our development. They believe presidency belongs to em

bola4dprec:

Which head of state abolished regional government put in place by British?

Aguiyi Ironsi did. What is your point?

Amumaigwe:


Aguiyi Ironsi did. What is your point?

He was archtect of Nigeria problems

PerfectlyPerfect:

The zoning that has been the norm since, how many problems has it solved?

not all of our problems but it reduces absolute dominance by one ethnic group

homotayo11:


Like I said it's just your own opinion.
Restructuring means different things to different people.

Just because your own restructuring means regional government does not mean other people will follow your idea. Some people would say the power at the center is too much which I also agree. Some would say resource control..some would say state policing is the solution. While some would just say CONSTITUTION REVIEW bluntly.. Without saying what part..And resource control is different from regional government.

"" Restructuring means different things to different people.""




Stop spreading this stupidity.

homotayo11:


Some say back to regional government
Some say resource control
Some say review of constitution.

Don't quote me saying all these can't happen without review of the constitution cause I already know that.


But some would just say review.. Without saying the parts to be reviewed.

There's resource control is how a regional gov't works, each region has access to all the resources within their territory n then give a certain percentage to the centre, Wen we had 3 regions, Each region sends 30% of their revenue to FG and keeps the remaining 70%.

homotayo11:
What is RESTRUCTURING? Different people with different ideas and opinions.

False

gurnam:
May Agunyi Ironsi, his advisers and backers rot in the deepest part of hell

May the coup plotters of Jan 1966 and July 1966 keep receiving God’s wrath.

Gowon ended the regional government in Nigeria.

PrecisionFx:

Gowon ended the regional government in Nigeria.

Stop lying.
Gowon only created additional states.
The abrogation of the regions was done via unitary decree 34 that turned Nigeria to a unitary form of government that everyone looks towards the center.
May Ironsi rot in the deepest part of hell fire

bola4dprec:

He was archtect of Nigeria problems

yoruba man, why have you refused to blame Gowon and north who effectively ended the regional government? Is it because you are not born brave enough to challenge your northern masters but think you can take a cheap jibe at Easterners?

phase1:


yoruba man, why have you refused to blame Gowon and north who effectively ended the regional government? Is it because you are not born brave enough to challenge your northern masters but think you can take a cheap jibe at Easterners?

Stop re-writing history. Gowon didn’t create DECREE 34, that was done by Ironsi. The decree effectively turned Nigeria into a Unitary form of govt.

Gowon created states just to break the power of the regions.

gurnam:


Stop re-writing history. Gowon didn’t create DECREE 34, that was done by Ironsi. The decree effective turned Nigeria into a Unitary form of govt.

Gowon created states just to break the power of the regions.

He created Decree 34, your beloved Gowon came and created Decrees 8 and 14. Yet you blame Ironsi but praise Gowon? You yorubas can be hypocritically obtuse atimes.
You are only blaming Ironsi because he is Igbo nothing more. You must be really dense to hate Decree 34 and then love and tolerate Gowon's decrees 8 and 14 and hail Gowon as a hero. Your revisionism and hypocrisy will be laid bare.

phase1:


He created Decree 34, your beloved Gowon came and created Decrees 8 and 14. Yet you blame Ironsi but praise Gowon? You yorubas can be hypocritically obtuse atimes.
You are only blaming Ironsi because he is Igbo nothing more. You must be really dense to hate Decree 34 and then love and tolerate Gowon's decrees 8 and 14 and hail Gowon as a hero. Your revisionism and hypocrisy will be laid bare.

Tell us what those decrees you mentioned were meant to do!

You see the more you guys try to write this kind of rubbish, the more you show your lack of remorse to what was done by some actors in the mess we are today and the far away you are from your Biafra dream

gurnam:


Stop lying.
Gowon only created additional states.
The abrogation of the regions was done via unitary decree 34 that turned Nigeria to a unitary form of government that everyone looks towards the center.
May Ironsi rot in the deepest part of hell fire

"" Gowon only created additional states ""

So which state did Ironsi create?

gurnam:


Tell us what those decrees you mentioned were meant to do!

You see the more you guys try to write this kind of rubbish, the more you show your lack of remorse to what was done by some actors in the mess we are today and the far away you are from your Biafra dream

If I am expected to educate an old man like you about Gowon's decree 8 and 14 then it is finished. I have better luck at successfully trying to explain nuclear physics to my 2 year old nephew.

phase1:


If I am expected to educate an old man like you about Gowon's decree 8 and 14 then it is finished. I have better luck at successfully trying to explain nuclear physics to my 2 year old nephew.

Get out! Decree 8 which is about federal and legislative power has been in existence right from the onset, it only vested the use in the Supreme Military council instead of Federal executive council that hirtheto excecise such power!

You bloody liars want to rewrite Nigeria history


Decree No. 8 of 1967

The main feature of this Decree in the vesting in the Supreme Military
Council of both the legislative and executive powers of the Government
of the Federation. The Federal Executive Council which has hitherto
exercised these powers has now been divested of them and it is
henceforth to discharge those functions that are specifically
delegated to it by the Supreme Military Council. 2.

PrecisionFx:



"" Gowon only created additional states ""

So which state did Ironsi create?

Ironsi abolished regionalism by his decree 34! Get that into your skull

PrecisionFx:

Gowon ended the regional government in Nigeria.

No bro it was Aguiyi Ironsi that killed Nigeria to what it's today. This is not the time to argue such than to restructure or Buhari go nothing more nothing less.
Buhari must restructure or being sack.....

General Ironsi promulgated the Constitution (Suspension and Modification) Decree 1966. Decree No 1 dated January 17, 1966 but not published in the Official Gazette until March 4, 1966. He then issued public order Decree No 33 dated May 24, 1966 which dissolved eighty-one political associations and twenty-six tribal and cultural associations.

At the early stage of his tenure, he appointed a three-man advisory team made up of Chief Francis Nwokedi, a Permanent Secretary, Dr. Pius Charles Nwabafor Okigbo (1924-2000) and Colonel Patrick Anwunah, who later became Chairman and Head of the Orientation Committee at that time. He replaced the then Attorney-General and Minister of Justice, Dr. Taslim Olawale Elias (1914-1991) with Chief Gabriel Chike Michael Onyiuke (SAN), former Director, Public Prosecution, Eastern Nigeria (1960-1965) who is from Nimo in present Anambra State.

In a speech to the nation on January 28, 1966, he denounced the ills of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. “All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to regionalism. Tribal loyalties and activities which promote tribal consciousness and sectional interests must give way to the urgent task of national reconstruction. The Federal Military Government will preserve Nigeria as one strong nation.” He then went on to promise “administrative reforms” and referred specifically to several matters in which regional as well as personal interests were known to have had decisive influence. These were official appointments, public investments, and the universities.

He promised that”in the public services, efficiency and merit will be the criteria for advancement.” That industrial development would be “coordinated to avoid wasteful duplication of industrial projects”, and that the universities would be “re-orientated to serve the genuine interest of our people”. Immediately after the speech, two Governors kicked against the proposal. They were, Major General David Akpode Ejoor (83) who is from Ovu in the present Delta State, then serving as the Military Governor of the Mid-Western region and Major General Hassan Usman Katsina (1933-1995), who was then serving as Governor of the Northern region.

Lt. Col. Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu (1933-2011), Military Governor of Eastern Region welcomed the decree while Lt.Col. Francis Adekunle Fajuyi (1926-1966), Military Governor of Western Region did not comment on the promulgation of the decree. Lt-Col. Ejoor was reported as saying that the ’National Government’ set up by the army was the prelude to ‘the re-introduction of a unitary form of government’ and insisted that it would create future problems. Shortly afterwards, the Supreme Military Council announced that a senior government official, Mr. Nwokedi, had been asked to consider and to report to the Supreme Military Council on the establishment of ‘an administrative machinery for a united Nigeria’ and the ‘unification of the Public Services and Judicial Services’.

In his own speech on February 19 at the Kaduna Airport, the Governor of Northern region, Lt-Col. Hassan Katsina said he was not aware as a member of the then Supreme Military Council on the modalities of the proposed National Government. “Am afraid the egg is about to be broken”. On February 21, 1966, General Ironsi again addressed the nation on the issue, he said: “On the question of the political future of the country, the experiences and mistakes of the previous governments in the Federation have clearly indicated that far-reaching constitutional reforms are badly needed for peaceful and orderly progress towards the realisation of our objectives. I have already touched on some of the major issues involved in recent broadcast to the nation. It has become apparent to all Nigerians that rigid adherence to ‘regionalism’, was the bane of the last regime and one of the main factors which contributed to its downfall. No doubt, the country would welcome a clean break with the deficiencies of the system of government to which the country has been subjected in the recent past. A solution suitable to our national needs must be found. The existing boundaries of governmental control will need to be re-adjusted to make for less cumbersome administration’.

As a follow up on May 25, General Ironsi promulgated the Constitution (Suspension and Modification) (No. 5) Decree 1966. Decree No. 34 (the ‘Unification Decree’). After the promulgation, the country was thrown into turmoil and crisis which led to demonstration particularly in many parts of Northern Nigeria at that time. On his return to Kaduna on May 27, Col. Hassan Katsina was besieged with demands for an explanation. It was feared that in a unified service Northerners would be at a disadvantage. It was no consolation that the Decree provided for the delegation of appointments and promotions, except the most senior, to Provincial Civil Service Commissions.

With its authority challenged and shown to be weak, at least in large parts of the North, the National Military Government had little option but to proffer its assurances and to explain its actions. The Supreme Military Council met on June 7 and 8, 1966 and issued the following statement: “the public must not be led to confuse the Military Government with government by a civilian regime under a constitution approved by the people.

Nobody will expect the present Military Government to cease to function until new constitution has been approved or to be compelled to operate the old system of government with its obvious weakness. It cannot be too seriously emphasised that the Military Government while in office can only run the government as a military government under a unified command. It cannot afford to run five separate governments and separate services as if it were a civilian regime.

Final decisions on the territorial structure of the country and the public services will be matters for the Constituent Assembly and the referendum”.

The Supreme Military Council also decided that General Ironsi should invite traditional rulers from all parts of the country to a meeting to be held in Lagos as soon as possible and that the Military Governors would immediately summon similar meetings in their own Regions. This was presumably an attempt to improve the channels of communications. There had in fact already been a meeting of Northern Emirs and Chiefs in Kaduna on June 4, and the Military Governor had been given a list of grievances and recommendations to take to Lagos”. The Emirs and Chiefs met again on 16 June to receive General Ironsi’s reply.

Sadly on July 29, 1966, General Ironsi and the Military Governor of Western Region, Lt. Col. Francis Adekunle Fajuyi were murdered in Ibadan during a meeting with the traditional rulers from all parts of the country.

Once again, may Ironsi and his Igbo backers rots in hell

Shortly afterwards, the Supreme Military Council announced that a senior government official, Mr. Nwokedi, had been asked to consider and to report to the Supreme Military Council on the establishment of ‘an administrative machinery for a united Nigeria’ and the ‘unification of the Public Services and Judicial Services’.

Northerners were clearly not interested in the devilish act of Ironsi

As a follow up on May 25, General Ironsi promulgated the Constitution (Suspension and Modification) (No. 5) Decree 1966. Decree No. 34 (the ‘Unification Decree’). After the promulgation, the country was thrown into turmoil and crisis which led to demonstration particularly in many parts of Northern Nigeria at that time. On his return to Kaduna on May 27, Col. Hassan Katsina was besieged with demands for an explanation. It was feared that in a unified service Northerners would be at a disadvantage. It was no consolation that the Decree provided for the delegation of appointments and promotions, except the most senior, to Provincial Civil Service Commissions.

Ejoor saw tomorrow that Ironsi and his Igbo backers couldn't see

Lt-Col. Ejoor was reported as saying that the ’National Government’ set up by the army was the prelude to ‘the re-introduction of a unitary form of government’ and insisted that it would create future problems.

gurnam:


Ironsi abolished regionalism by his decree 34! Get that into your skull

Please answer my question Sir.

U said Gowon only created more states and I asked....


Which states did Aguiyi Ironsi create

PrecisionFx:


Please answer my question Sir.

U said Gowon only created more states and I asked....


Which states did Aguiyi Ironsi create

Shut up and stop your act of diversion. Read up my post above!
Did he need to create states to end regionalism the way he did.

Igbos by their deed created the political mess that Nigeria is in today and still trying to find a way through.

klax:


No bro it was Aguiyi Ironsi that killed Nigeria to what it's today. This is not the time to argue such than to restructure or Buhari go nothing more nothing less.
Buhari must restructure or being sack.....

To northern Nigeria, restructuring back to regional govt n 70% resource control is same as Balkanization of Nigeria.

If u know, U know.



Under Aguiyi Ironsi Nigeria had no states, Nigeria still had regions n each region kept back 70% of their revenue n developed independently. It was gowon that created States n destroyed regional government in Nigeria (with force).

gurnam:


Shut up and stop your act of diversion. Read up my post above!
Did he need to create states to end regionalism the way he did.

Igbos by their deed created the political mess that Nigeria is in today and still trying to find a way through.

"" Did he need to create states to end regionalism the way he did ""

U said Gowon created more states, That means Ironsi created states as well.

OR ARE U RETRACTING UR STATEMENT? ?

ARE U SAYING IRONSI DIDNT CREATE STATES??

GREEDY POLITICIANS IN NIGERIA ARE JUST INTERESTED IN HIJACKING POWERS AT THE GRAVE YARD OF A COUNTRY THAT IS LONG OVER DUE FOR RESTRUCTURING.

LordAdam:
Your highness please make it clear.

Restructure the damn country!

Everyone knows of the wealth of Switzerland. They have no President. Instead they have a federal council of 7 elected officials, all of whom have equal political power. One of them becomes the chief of state or substantive head (President) with no extra powers for one year. Another member of the federal council replaces him after one year. No second-term nonsense.

This is a country that's barely twice the size of Lagos, yet has 26 Cantons that are semi-independent of each other. Each canton has its own constitution, legislature, executive, police, courts, income tax. Same Switzerland has 4 official languages--German, French, Italian, and Romansh. Geneva is French. Uri is German. Ticino is Italian. Their smallest canton is about the size of the city of Oshogbo.

We just keep burying our heads in the sand and wonder why nothing is working. Come together, discuss our union, restructure the country to a model that'd work for us. No two European countries are exactly alike. Norway and Sweden are kingdoms. Luxembourg is a Duchy. Liechtenstein and Monaco are Principalities. Netherlands and Spain have figureheads as monarchs. Italy and Germany are parliamentary republics. France runs a semi-presidential system.

Why can't Nigeria run its own system that takes our peculiarities into account? Why will a country of 200m people let selfish id**ts take them for a ride?

-Lord

Well said sir

Don't mind those thieves. They've forgotten about the main issues while they grapple for power.

PrecisionFx:

[s]
"" Did he need to create states to end regionalism the way he did ""

U said Gowon created more states, That means Ironsi created states as well.

OR ARE U RETRACTING UR STATEMENT? ?

ARE U SAYING IRONSI DIDNT CREATE STATES??[/s]

Stop boring me with your useless rants