LordReed:
Hmmm, this is a tough one with a lot of layers it will require some thought to adequately do justice.

orisa37:
Yes. They are using The Light of God in them.

vaxx:
The light of God to build mass weapons of destruction. Can you elucidate pls?

orisa37:
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Read The Bible again and Pray while doing so.

vaxx:
Do you think scientist can ethically and morally justify the inventions of weapons that can kill and harm?

*What do you think*?

Let's exercise a civil and polite debate.....

I think this debate will favour and justify the war fought both in the bible and quran accordingly......since it is base on moral and ethical ground....

LordReed, budaatum and the rest........

MuttleyLaff:
Vaxx, have you familiar with the names Kamran Loghman, J. Robert Oppenheimer+Albert Einstein and/or Mikhail Kalashnikov
and how/why they felt remorse about their inventions?

vaxx:
Honestly, this names sound unfamiliar apart from Albert Einstein which I so much admire.
But that was unfortunate to hear they felt remorse for their invention, but it is normal for human to feel remorse on anything at all.
I just felt remorse for disloging some important issue with my friend today. I felt i should not have said it.
But will that be base on moral ground?

Have you heard of Arnold Sommerfeld, the German physicist who was responsible for introducing the azimuthal & spin quantum numbers.
He was nominated 84 times for noble laurel but never won, his doctorate students
and two of his post graduate students won the price but he never won.

Anytime I read or come across its work either in the journal or library, I do feel remorse for him as well.
Will you consider this as ethical and moral principle?
This are just side question, yet to answer the main topic.

MuttleyLaff:
vaxx, do you consider, it ethical and morally OK to swat a mosquito that's landed on your hand and sucking your blood

vaxx:
plurium interrogationum fallacy
(I sometime commit this too)well, have you heard ""He who kill the killer do not commit a sin""

A mosquito sucks my blood because it has to live while I am killing it in order to prevent it from transmitting live threatening diseases like dengue and malaria.
I think it is base on the struggle of existence that both of us are fighting for.
So yes This is will not be consider a question as to whether it is morally correct to kill a mosquito
or not but rather a question as to whether who wins this age old battle against my lethal 'enemy'.

Before you argue not all mosquito are dangerous, the one I fought last night is a criminal .....lol...

Can you now answer the question @op

vaxx:
Do you think scientist can ethically and morally justify the inventions of weapons that can kill and harm?

budaatum:
I was going to join the British Army a long time ago.
But when I asked myself if I could point a gun at someone and shoot, the answer was no, except if I were trying to save my life.
"But saving your life is what you'd be doing in the army", I reasoned.

But going somewhere to provoke and be a treat to someone else
whereby I have to protect myself by shooting at them is not exactly "saving your life now buda, is it?"
And that was army done for me. I just could not find the justification for pointing a gun at another human being
and pulling the trigger to shoot people that my presence might provoke, dead!
I sat an exam and passed so well that they kept calling and almost begged me to join till I literally told them to fuq off.
Then the British Police came asking me to join them!

I would assume anyone would morally and ethically justify weapons.
One just need listen to the arguments the NRA come up with when anyone says anything close to banning guns.
NRA members who can't continue justifying gun ownership would get rid of them,
but its very easy to avoid information that would stop them feeling the need to own guns.
And there's always the fear of what may happen if one does not have a gun which the news reinforces daily.
I'm very certain that wither n a few months of being in the army,
my brain would have been so washed that I too might have been justifying shooting people.
But knowing me, such acts would eventually be followed by very deep depression once I seriously
and honestly think about what I'd done. I'd probably commit suicide.

People can justify anything if they want to.
Whether what is justified is objectively justifiable is another thing entirely,
but that's not the question posed in this thread so I wouldn't start.
Subjectively, however, anything can be justified.
Murderers do it everyday.

vaxx:
Can you now answer the question @op

budaatum:
MuttleyLaff, are you pointion out my response to vaxx because he is blind and cannot see it himself?

MuttleyLaff:
Are you speaking in tongues?
What the fairk is "pointion"? LOL

Anyway, I know I am interested as vaxx is, to know your answer to the OP, stated clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt,
so just took the liberty to serve you same tune vaxx earlier played me

I was going to shout out to you, about if game, we meet and catch up at Esquires today's PM/tomorrow Tuesday PM
for abula", that's "amala dudu" or "lafun" plonked in a sea of ewedu, gbegiri and obe ata, yum yum yum
serenaded by a lot of all sorts of assorted orisirisi meats,
like shaki, pọnmọ, oxtail, raincoats, jackets, abọdi, fuku, liver, gbọkọtọ/cow leg etcetera,
but it seems you're moody and bad tempered at the mo
Or is it one of them man period things?

budaatum:
Some people have gotten on my nerves with their ignorance this weekend but I'm sure my mood would improve soon.

MuttleyLaff:
My better half, always says: "Dont let them steal your joy"

budaatum:
They get nowhere near my joy.
I'm just saddened by the ignorance.
It pains me so much.

KENFERDYOORI:
The question is "are all these inventions worth the lives and properties they've claimed?"

budaatum:

Some people have gotten on my nerves with their ignorance this weekend but I'm sure my mood would improve soon.

budaatum:
MuttleyLaff, are you pointing out my response to vaxx because he is blind and cannot see it himself?

MuttleyLaff:
Yes they can, based on the circumstances that brought the reason for the invention up.

budaatum:

I was going to join the British Army a long time ago. But when I asked myself if I could point a gun at someone and shoot, the answer was no, except if I were trying to save my life. "But saving your life is what you'd be doing in the army", I reasoned. But going somewhere to provoke and be a treat to someone else whereby I have to protect myself by shooting at them is not exactly "saving your life now buda, is it?" And that was army done for me. I just could not find the justification for pointing a gun at another human being and pulling the trigger to shoot people that my presence might provoke, dead! I sat an exam and passed so well that they kept calling and almost begged me to join till I literally told them to fuq off. Then the British Police came asking me to join them!

I would assume anyone would morally and ethically justify weapons. One just need listen to the arguments the NRA come up with when anyone says anything close to banning guns. NRA members who can't continue justifying gun ownership would get rid of them, but its very easy to avoid information that would stop them feeling the need to own guns. And there's always the fear of what may happen if one does not have a gun which the news reinforces daily. I'm very certain that wither n a few months of being in the army, my brain would have been so washed that I too might have been justifying shooting people. But knowing me, such acts would eventually be followed by very deep depression once I seriously and honestly think about what I'd done. I'd probably commit suicide.

People can justify anything if they want to. Whether what is justified is objectively justifiable is another thing entirely, but that's not the question posed in this thread so I wouldn't start. Subjectively, however, anything can be justified. Murderers do it everyday.

vaxx:

scientist are simply in the pursuit of knowledge and anything you use it to do is up to you.

budaatum:

Didn't you try this crap in Lordreed thread where it didn't fly?

Ogbeni, jawo l'apo ti ko yo!, it does you no credit.

vaxx:
you only failed to grasp it Buda"", LordReed opens up his mind later on....

budaatum:

Where, vaxx?