triplechoice:
wow!
So,you just with one wave of the hand dismissed a whole of body of Greek philosophical thought on the nature of soul as pagan tradition and out of nowhere presenting us with the mythical account in Genesis as the correct one?
Its obvious you have taken the Genesis story literally because that's what you have been thought and come to accept as truth.

OneJ:



So ,the ancient Greeks whose pantheon of gods & goddesses influenced their philosophy & pagan rooted ideas are now your role models & life coach ?

But, triplechoice, are U a Christian, moslem ,atheist or what are your beliefs ,as regards the soul, per se ?

If the Genesis account, is in your words, is "mythical" , also your assertion implies that Jesus Christ is a myth.

triplechoice:
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I only intend to draw your attention to the irony in the op you created

If you know so much about the Greek 's ancient world view, then, except you want to pretend, you should also know that such ideas and beliefs are also found in the Bible. Bible writer's drew extensively from such sources you now term pagan

You can do your own research to confirm this. It will help to expand your religious paradigm.

OneJ:
"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world,yet forfeits his soul?" Matt 16:26.

"... be afraid of the One who can DESTROY both SOUL & body in Gehenna" Matt 10:28.

Jesus Christ actually confirmed that the soul is very mortal, contrary to Greek philosophical thought founded on pagan ideas & beliefs which has become popular in Christendom .
Besides, Christ knew how man (Adam) was created. He is a very credible & reliable source of truth about the soul.

OneJ:

Anyone reading this thread is a soul, a living soul in fact.
Animals (ant, lion, shark, etc) are souls.

Is the soul immortal?

The popular view of immortal soul is a blend of Persian & Greek philosophical thought & ideas ,at best pagan ideas introduced into Christendom.

"The only Hebrew word traditionally translated. "soul" ("nephesh", in English language Bibles refers to a living conscious body, rather than an immortal soul.
In the New Testament, the Greek word traditionally translated "soul", 'psyche' has substantially the same meaning as the Hebrew , without reference to an immortal soul".

"According to Genesis 2:7,God did not make a body & put a soul into it,like a letter into an envelope of dust. Rather, He formed man's body from the dust, then by breathing divine breath into it, he made the body of dust live (he infused the breath of life into the body of dust), that is , the dust did not embody a soul but it became a soul - a whole creature"
Source : Soul in the Bible wikipedia. .

Anas09:

So, a soul is a living conscious body? And this body resides inside of your physical body?

Pls oneJ. Which part of your body does the soul resides in?

OneJ:

U are a soul, the total package. Made of dust & the breath of life,or life force (spirit). Gen 2:7.

The soul is not something that resides in U, but U,yourself.

Emusan:


Then why did Jesus said people can kill the BODY but can't Kill the SOUL?

Let me translate that Matt 10:28 for you as your claim.

"And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the body; rather, fear him who can destroy both body and body in Ge·henʹna NWT Matt 10:28

This is the perfect translation for JWs...

TATIME:
Your mother remains important to you even at death but at the mortuary the workers treats her just like any other dead. Because to them she's just a dead BODY but to you that's the SOUL who gave birth,fed,clothe and spent all she had to take good care of you. To the mortuary attendant the dead BODY could be exchanged for anything like cash but you'll never sell your mother even at death because she meant a lot to you as a SOUL. So like the mortuary attendant,to Jesus BODIES meant the same but SOULS matters due to the legacy they left behind. Luke 9:60

Emusan:


Then why did Jesus said people can kill the BODY but can't Kill the SOUL?

Let me translate that Matt 10:28 for you as your claim.

"And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the body; rather, fear him who can destroy both body and body in Ge·henʹna NWT Matt 10:28

This is the perfect translation for JWs...

hakmah:
This is an interesting topic. Hmmmm!

OneJ seems to have made a thorough research. Ansd there are dudes up there that know what they are saying too. This question has been on for long.

Please, permit me to make this famous definition of man. Man is a spirit, he lives in a body, and he has a soul .

The real mystery is after we die, where is the soul? So, I think to understand this topic well, a stand must be taking on these 3 parts of man: body, soul and spirit. There is no way to prove anything without defining the three and explain the relationship among the three parts. Some do not even believe man is a spirit.

This is an interesting topic I want to know more about myself. Anyone who can do justice to this topic should kindly do it. But I kinda like how OP was just straight forward. But I believe there are other theories.

Thanks!

Jozzy4:

That famous definition is a scam. Here is why ?

Follow this thread and see the better analysis of what am about to tell you - https://www.nairaland.com/4748027/died-jesus-body


If Man is a Spirit, it means man himself cannot die..
That means Jesus too did not die for anybody

OneJ:
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I have done my research on this topic ( as to whether the soul is immortal ) , and what i found out is evidently affirmed by the Wikipedia's "Soul in the Bible" article.
Shalom.

Jozzy4:

That famous definition is a scam. Here is why ?

Follow this thread and see the better analysis of what am about to tell you - https://www.nairaland.com/4748027/died-jesus-body


If Man is a Spirit, it means man himself cannot die.. That means Jesus too did not die for anybody

OneJ:
If the Genesis account, is in your words, is "mythical" , also your assertion implies that Jesus Christ is a myth.

triplechoice:

Wikipedia cannot be relied upon for any serious research.. Anyone can place anything on that site. Anyway, it does not matter for me how you choose to conduct your research
There are certain ideas and experiences that cannot be fully expressed in words. You may think you have understood them just by reading the words in which they are expressed, but it is only when you have a direct experience of what they describe that you fully capture or get to understand better. That is why in schools we have theory and then practicals for a complete understanding
An idea as complex as the human soul is not what you can understand just by reading it up in a few sentences
You have been made to believe that the idea of the immortality of the soul has its origin from the ancient Greeks . That is certainly not true. Here in Africa, our forefathers also share in such belief

. I can tell you from my own personal experience and that of others who have similar experiences that the idea of man having an immortal soul goes beyond belief. .
I know you rest on Genesis account of how man was created from dust as a validation for your argument Unfortunately, I do not completely see the Bible in the way I know you have come to see it. If you remember Joshua commanding the sun to stand still, then you should understand that the Bible writers were people who had a limited understanding of the world as at that time.. Do you believe the sun stood still during that period?

. Was man created from sand? Of course we now know that a new born baby is predominantly made of water. was there a time water covered the surface of the earth? If you are not destitute of the knowledge of geography you should know, that it is not possible for water to cover the surface of the earth.

In the context of the Bible it all happened but in reality they did not.


Yes, man does not possess a soul. Man is soul encased in a body

Emusan:
I know you'll run away from again after I exposed your lies in the other thread.



You can still went ahead to use Matt10:28 when the said verse crumble your lie...

Just as usual and common with your organization you used (...) to hide the most important part of that verse, simply because you know it exposes your lie.

Emusan:


Then why did Jesus said people can kill the BODY but can't Kill the SOUL?

Let me translate that Matt 10:28 for you as your claim.

"And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the body; rather, fear him who can destroy both body and body in Ge·henʹna NWT Matt 10:28

This is the perfect translation for JWs...

TATIME:
(1)Body is the matter which has weight and occupies space, all living creatures have it. Ecclesiastes 9:4-10
(2)Spirit is the life force activating the body, all living creatures have it.Ecclesiastes 3:19,20
(3) Soul is the personality, it's defined by what the creature does or doesn't. Cleo is my dog.if killed,nobody can replace her with just another dog. The killer has succeeded in killing Cleo but can never erase the sweet memories of my dog in my mind. Matthew 10:28 compared to Genesis 4:10

At death all of these is no more until it's time for Jehovah to bring them back to life again, so each PERSON will be resurrected as a whole. John 11:1-44 Lazarus died and was resurrected in full, no separation of either body, soul or spirit.

TATIME:
Your mother remains important to you even at death but at the mortuary the workers treats her just like any other dead. Because to them she's just a dead BODY but to you that's the SOUL who gave birth,fed,clothe and spent all she had to take good care of you. To the mortuary attendant in parts or the dead BODY as a whole could be exchanged for cash but you'll never sell your mother even at death because she meant a lot to you as a SOUL. So like the mortuary attendant,to Jesus BODIES meant the same but SOULS matters due to the legacy they left behind. Luke 9:60

Emusan:


So what is body?
What is soul?

Jozzy4:
Both body and body right ? Calm down, even that verse exposed your lies.

- If the verse is teaching immortal soul, Do you agree BODY also go to hell ? KJV

Secondly , how does it support you since humans kill souls in the bible ?

TATIME:
BODY is the matter you're carrying about, with your BODY you have weight and occupies space and it's the BODY that's seen as responsible for delivering whatever you have in mind. If you wish now to be in America, it's the body that serves as hindrance to your movement because it's a "matter".
SOUL is the LEGACY you left behind, all that you did and accomplished while you're still alive, so while the BODY is what everyone sees God sees both the BODY and all that you're within. That's why Jesus said fear not those who can kill the body but cannot kill the soul.(humans) But fear the one who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna.(God) God has the ability to kill and destroy all that a person left behind if it's not instituted according to HIS will.

Emusan:


You have started in your delicious again and I can't stop laughing on the length you people can go just to defend your organization and not the truth of the scripture.

If Soul is a LEGACY left behind (which is immaterial), while are you referring to SOUL Jesus talked about as HUMAN again?

Again Jesus statement said "...destroyed both body and soul in Gehenna" yet soul is what you left behind.

Then this topic might not be for you

Go back to the OP or your organization, you'll know that what they mean is BODY and SOUL are the same

Even the OP stress on this by asking, "is the soul IMMORTAL?"

OneJ:


For your mind ..... Lol.
U ain't got nothing to expose ...
U will end up exposing your lies

Emusan:


Yes body and body since you JWs is claiming that Body(you) is the same thing with soul(which is also you)

Did Jesus statement show distinction between Body and Soul in that verse?

That's the question.

About hell "Gehenna" have different meaning just like every other Greek or Hebrew words.

Luke 12:5 also shield more light to it
Moreover, I say to you, my friends, do not fear those who kill the body and after this are not able to do anything more. But I will show you whom to fear: Fear the One who after killing has authority to throw into Ge·henʹna. Yes, I tell you, fear this One. NWT

From this passage it's evident that:
1. Body was used and NOT A PERSON
2. Both God and man can KILL
3. But man can only kill AFTER THAT they can't do anything
4. But God can kill AFTER He kill He can then throw your remain into Gehenna.

But you people will overlook all this self explanatory statement but still living in delusion.