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Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 9:06am On Feb 18, 2019
THE LIKES OF CHUDAL BAE

Why did God set aside the Law? Because it was of no use to save us from sin.

There was once a young man named Chudal Bae. In 1950, during the Korean War, the communist soldiers came and ordered him to sweep the yard on the Sabbath day in a bid to rob him of his steadfast religious faith and make him a communist. But this religious young man refused to obey their orders. They insisted, but the young man refused again. Finally, the soldiers tied him to a tree and pointed rifles at him. “Which do you want, to sweep the yard or to be killed?” When forced to make a decision, he said, “I would rather die than work on the holy Sabbath day.” “You made your choice, and we will be glad to oblige you.”

They then promptly shot him dead. Later, the church leaders appointed him a deacon posthumously to commemorate his unshakable religious faith. Despite his strength of will, his religious faith was misguided. Why couldn’t he have swept the yard and preached the gospel to those soldiers? Why did he have to be so stubborn and die for it? Would God praise him for not working on the Sabbath day? No.
Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by Nobody: 9:28am On Feb 18, 2019
KingErnesto:
This is very insightful . The whole sin of the world was placed upon Jesus during his baptism in water ... I see that. What does our baptism in water now signifies? Pls enlighten me.

The sin of the world wasn't placed on Jesus during his baptism in water but on the cross.
Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 9:52am On Feb 20, 2019
WE SHOULD LEAD a SPIRITUAL LIFE. NOT OUR DEEDS BUT OUR FAITH IS IMPORTANT IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD.

The leaders of the church want to celebrate someone like Chudal Bae because they want to show off the superiority and orthodoxy of their own denomination. It is just like the hypocritical Pharisees who challenged Jesus. There is nothing we can learn from LEGALISTS. We should learn about spiritual faith. We should ponder WHY Jesus had to be BAPTIZED and BLEED on the Cross, and inquire into the NATURE OF THE GOSPEL OF THE WATER AND the SPIRIT. We should try to find answers to those questions first, and then try to spread the gospel to all the people of the world, so that they may be born again.

We should devote our lives to spiritual works. If a preacher tells you, “Be like this young man Chudal Bae. Keep the Sabbath holy,” he is only trying to get you to come to church on Sundays.

Here is another story which may prove enlightening. There was a woman who had to go through many trials to go to church on Sundays. Her parents-in-law were not Christians, and they tried hard to prevent her from going to church. They told her to work on Sunday. But she went out into the fields on Saturday nights and worked under the moonlight so that the family wouldn’t have any excuse to prevent her from going to church on Sunday.

Of course, it is important to go to church, but is it enough to come to worship every Sunday just to show how faithful we are? SUCH IS AN EXAMPLE OF A LEGALISTIC FAITH.
Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 10:10am On Feb 20, 2019
soulpeppersoup:


The sin of the world wasn't placed on Jesus during his baptism in water but on the cross.

God had established the LAW that sin MUST be TRANSFERRED to a sacrificial ANIMAL through ‘the LAYING ON OF HANDS' in order for all mankind to receive the REMISSION/ FORGIVENESS of sins.

Thus, in the days of the Old Testament, sinners IST had to lay their hands on the head of a sacrificial animal in order to TRANSFER THEIR SINS onto its head, before they now shed it's blood.( Leviticus 4: 27-29) However, as it was cumbersome for them to be performing these sacrifices daily and individually, God instituted that Aaron the High Priest offered this sacrifice of atonement for all the people of Israel as their REPRESENTATIVE, on a yearly basis. (Leviticus 16:21)

In exactly the same way, John the Baptist, having been allowed by God to be born into the house of Aaron as a high priest, performed the very task of TRANSFERRING ALL the sins of mankind upon Jesus, as their REPRESENTATIVE, by laying hands on Him through His BAPTISM, since it is impossible for the entire mankind to TRANSFER their own sins upon Jesus individually.

And so Jesus with His BAPTISM, TOOK AWAY ALL the sin of everyone including original and daily sins, thereby making us all SINLESS and RIGHTEOUS before Him, fit to enter heaven. Therefore we MUST have faith in the BAPTISM of Jesus as well as His DEATH on the cross in order to be truly bornagain and righteous. Jesus's BAPTISM is an indispensable element to our salvation , which if we omit, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to attain TRUE SALVATION.

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Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 10:19am On Feb 20, 2019
Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.



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Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 5:50am On Mar 11, 2019
Isaiah 64:6 But we are all like an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags; we all fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

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Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 2:00am On Mar 17, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 9:29am On Mar 20, 2019
The true faithful were born again of water and the Spirit. True faith begins when someone is born again. Can you be saved from your sins by living up to the law of God? No. I am not telling you to ignore the Law, but we all know that it is humanly impossible to keep all the articles of the Law. James 2:10 says, “For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.”

Therefore think first how you can be born again of the gospel of water and the Spirit. Then, go to a church where you can hear the gospel. You can lead a faithful life after you are born again. Then, when the Lord calls, you can go before Him with joy. Do not waste your time going to a false church, do not waste your money making misguided offerings. False priests cannot keep you from going to hell. First hear the gospel of the water and the Spirit and be born again.
Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 8:16am On Mar 25, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 4:56pm On Mar 30, 2019
Freely you have received, freely give.

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 11:09am On Apr 04, 2019
WHY IS CHRISTIANITY IN SO MUCH DECLINE ALL OVER THE WORLD?

Why are many Christians turning into ATHEISTS or New Agers? Why are christian youths leaving the church in droves? Why are many christians still in agony of their sins whilst claiming to have been saved and languishing in self deception ? Why are some Christians comfortable to be tagged as sinners even when they should have been made sanctified and RIGHTEOUS by God through His gospel of truth ? Why is present-day Christianity unable to truly solve the problem of sins for people and instead, have laid heaven burdens on them, thereby leaving many desolate and depressed, and eventually turning their back on God to their own detriment?

It all boils down to the fact that present-day Christianity has indeed lost the light of the TRUE AND COMPLETE gospel of water and spirit which grants more ASSURANCE and the HOLYSPIRIT to all who understands and wholeheartedly believes in it.

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ETERNITY IS A LONG TIME TO BE WRONG!

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 9:02am On Apr 05, 2019
Every sinner had to die because of his respective sin but when people go before God by faith in the water of Jesus’ baptism and the blood that He shed, NO ONE RECEIVES JUDGMENT.

THAT IS THE LOVE OF GOD UNKNOWN TO MANY!

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 3:50pm On Jun 14, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 8:35pm On Jun 16, 2019
Freely you have received, freely give.

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 10:26am On Jun 18, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 3:12pm On Jun 20, 2019
Freely you have received, freely give.

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 7:52pm On Jun 22, 2019
Deuteronomy 32:2 Let my teaching drop as the rain, my speech distill as the dew, as raindrops on the tender herb, and as showers on the grass.

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 11:22am On Jun 23, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 1:47pm On Jul 13, 2019
Ephesians 5:14 Therefore He says: "AWAKE, you who sleep, arise from the dead, and Christ will give you light."

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 5:07pm On Jul 19, 2019
Deuteronomy 32:2 Let my teaching drop as the rain, my speech distill as the dew, as raindrops on the tender herb, and as showers on the grass.

Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by live4dgospel(m): 9:07am On Aug 02, 2019
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Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by live4dgospel(m): 12:43pm On Oct 08, 2020
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Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by Kobojunkie: 5:32am On Jun 02, 2021
estheragha:
Legalists seem pious, but you should know that they have to make new garments every day. Legalism is the faith in garments of fig leaves, the wrong faith. Many people try so hard to live piously according to the law of God. They bellow at the top of their lungs on the mountains so that their voice begins to sound quite pious.

Legalists cut an impressive figure when they lead prayer meetings at church. “Holy Father in Heaven! We have sinned this past week. Please forgive us...” They break into tears and the rest of the congregation follow suit. They think to themselves, “He must have spent a long time in the mountains praying and fasting. He sounds so pious and faithful.” But because his faith is legalistic, even before the prayer ends, the legalist’s heart begins to fill with arrogance and sin.
You mean hypocrites, right? undecided

God Himself is God of Laws. He is a Faithful God meaning He sticks to the terms and conditions of the Law He makes with men and so in a sense God Himself is legalistic. undecided

God, in making Laws with men in form of Covenants, calls on men to also be faithful to the agreement He makes with them .i.e. God expects us to abide by the terms and conditions of the Covenant, Law, which He gives to us. So, God is Legalistic and He calls on us to submit to and obey the commandments/laws He gives us meaning He calls us to the having of a legalistic relationship with Him. undecided
Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by Kobojunkie: 5:35am On Jun 02, 2021
live4dgospel:
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The Gospel of the Kingdom of God is one whole Law whose name is Jesus Christ. Dividing the Law into parts makes as little sense as attempting to divide the person of Jesus Christ into different parts. The Gospel of the Kingdom of God is all or nothing and His name is Jesus Christ, the Law and Truth of God. undecided
Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 11:20am On Aug 06, 2022
*Among the religious leaders of Christianity at the present, there are those who claim that Jesus took away our original sin but not our personal sins. The Bible does not speak of the original and personal sins, and no mention of such things is found in it.*

Before Jesus, all sins, great and small, from those we were born with to those that belong to us and those that we commit with our own acts—indeed, every possible sin—are the same, all manifested as the sins of the world. Water is water, whether it is sewage water or tap water. No one knows for sure when people started to distinguish their original sin from their personal sins.

*Because many Christian leaders themselves have not been born again, they do not know how to solve all the problems of sin, and because they do not know, they have turned Christianity into a mere religion, claiming that God would forgive our sins if we ‘repent’ our sins. The word ‘repent’ is far different from the word ‘confess’ (1 John 1:9).*

What is repentance? It only means to turn around; it does not mean praying for God to forgive us of our sins. God has said that He wants us to give Him offerings that ask for His mercy and grace. Having compassion for the souls heading to hell because of sin, God wants to save us—this is what His heart is all about. What His heart desires is to make the sinful beings sinless and holy through Jesus Christ and thereby enable them to take part in His Kingdom, and He has indeed fulfilled this completely.
Bk 11 pg 104


*“He [Christ] might sanctify and cleanse her [the Church] with the washing of water by the word” (Ephesians 5:26). Hebrews 9:14 says, “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?” Hebrews 10:22 also says, “Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.”*

*We can find in these passages that the Bible emphasizes the water of Jesus’ baptism as well as His death on the Cross. Christ has saved us from all our sins by receiving the baptism and dying on the Cross. Jesus took all the sins of our conscience. In other words, Jesus took all the sins we commit through our actions, the sins we commit in our thoughts, the sins we commit intentionally, the sins we commit unconsciously, and the sins we commit because we are weak, and so on. Sin is recorded in the tablet of conscience when people commit sin. And they feel the pain in their conscience.*

*The conscience is the detector of the sins. Jesus took all our sins that torment our conscience when He received the baptism and He removed all our sins by dying on the Cross. That’s why God has cleansed our conscience from dead works to make us serve the living God.*
Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 11:26am On Aug 06, 2022
Kobojunkie:
You mean hypocrites, right? undecided

God Himself is God of Laws. He is a Faithful God meaning He sticks to the terms and conditions of the Law He makes with men and so in a sense God Himself is legalistic. undecided

God, in making Laws with men in form of Covenants, calls on men to also be faithful to the agreement He makes with them .i.e. God expects us to abide by the terms and conditions of the Covenant, Law, which He gives to us. So, God is Legalistic and He calls on us to submit to and obey the commandments/laws He gives us meaning He calls us to the having of a legalistic relationship with Him. undecided


If God is a Legalistic God, then all mankind would burn in hell for His Law states that the wages/ payment of sin is death. In other words, we must die for any and all sin we commit. That is the justice of God, to justly punish sinners with death for their sins.

However, the love and mercy of God is greater than His justice. That's why He sent Jesus to take away the sins of mankind with His water, blood and Spirit and make them sinless/ righteous, fit to enter His kingdom.

Indeed His love has prevailed over His justice!
Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by Kobojunkie: 3:27pm On Aug 06, 2022
estheragha:
1. If God is a Legalistic God, then all mankind would burn in hell for His Law states that the wages/ payment of sin is death. In other words, we must die for any and all sin we commit. That is the justice of God, to justly punish sinners with death for their sins.

2. However, the love and mercy of God is greater than His justice. That's why He sent Jesus to take away the sins of mankind with His water, blood and Spirit and make them sinless/ righteous, fit to enter His kingdom.

3. Indeed His love has prevailed over His justice!
1. I am afraid you are wrong! undecided

God said only those human beings who become born-again can get a chance at either His Heaven or His Hell to begin with. So your assertion is wrong as far as God's agreement/contract/Covenant and Law, Jesus Christ. undecided

2. The statement in bold is against God. You think God's Love and mercy exists in isolation of His Justice and you are wrong because everything God does, including Hell, is love In action.

*When God drowned the earth, leaving just Noah and His family, that was love in action.
*When God buried over 14000 Israelites in sand for disobeying Him that was love in action.
* When God destroyed Jerusalem and the people of Israel each time they disobeyed Him, that was also God's Love and mercy in action.
* When God ordered famine and drought on the land of Israel, that was also God's Love in action.
....

So don't delude yourself thinking you can separate God into ideas of your own making. Instead accept and understand Him as He presents Himself to you.undecided

3. This statement is meaningless undecided
Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by Lighthouse50: 4:15pm On Aug 06, 2022
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Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 12:06pm On Aug 13, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid you are wrong! undecided

God said only those human beings who become born-again can get a chance at either His Heaven or His Hell to begin with. So your assertion is wrong as far as God's agreement/contract/Covenant and Law, Jesus Christ. undecided

2. The statement in bold is against God. You think God's Love and mercy exists in isolation of His Justice and you are wrong because everything God does, including Hell, is love In action.

*When God drowned the earth, leaving just Noah and His family, that was love in action.
*When God buried over 14000 Israelites in sand for disobeying Him that was love in action.
* When God destroyed Jerusalem and the people of Israel each time they disobeyed Him, that was also God's Love and mercy in action.
* When God ordered famine and drought on the land of Israel, that was also God's Love in action.
....

So don't delude yourself thinking you can separate God into ideas of your own making. Instead accept and understand Him as He presents Himself to you.undecided

3. This statement is meaningless undecided

You talk a lot of nonsense without understanding.

You tagged God as a legalistic God who has to justly follow His own law.
The law of God states that the wages of sin is death. If He applies that then all will go to hell because all sins both the bornagain and the unsaved. But in His love He has taken away the sins of humanity with the gospel of water and Spirit and those who know and believe in this true gospel have become the recipient of His love which has surpassed His judgment considering that they were supposed to die for their sins.

His love is greater than His judgment. If He were to follow His judgment explicitly, no one will go to heaven. All must pay the wages of their sins.

All you do is open your mouth and say things without meaning contradicting yourself and lacking understanding, just for speaking sake.
Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by Castingdownimag: 12:49pm On Aug 13, 2022
WHY IS NIGERIA IN DISARRAY SEE THIS TO LEARN MORE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVEvlNCWsm0
Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by Kobojunkie: 1:08pm On Aug 13, 2022
estheragha:


You talk a lot of nonsense without understanding.

You tagged God as a legalistic God who has to justly follow His own law.
The law of God states that the wages of sin is death. If He applies that then all will go to hell because all sins both the bornagain and the unsaved. But in His love He has taken away the sins of humanity with the gospel of water and Spirit and those who know and believe in this true gospel have become the recipient of His love which has surpassed His judgment considering that they were supposed to die for their sins.

His love is greater than His judgment. If He were to follow His judgment explicitly, no one will go to heaven. All must pay the wages of their sins.

All you do is open your mouth and say things without meaning contradicting yourself and lacking understanding, just for speaking sake.
Again.....1. I am afraid you are wrong! undecided

God said only those human beings who become born-again can get a chance at either His Heaven or His Hell to begin with. So your assertion is wrong as far as God's agreement/contract/Covenant and Law, Jesus Christ. undecided

2. The statement in bold is against God. You think God's Love and mercy exists in isolation of His Justice and you are wrong because everything God does, including Hell, is love In action.

*When God drowned the earth, leaving just Noah and His family, that was love in action.
*When God buried over 14000 Israelites in sand for disobeying Him that was love in action.
* When God destroyed Jerusalem and the people of Israel each time they disobeyed Him, that was also God's Love and mercy in action.
* When God ordered famine and drought on the land of Israel, that was also God's Love in action.
....

So don't delude yourself thinking you can separate God into ideas of your own making. Instead accept and understand Him as He presents Himself to you.undecided

3. This statement is meaningless undecided

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