They've known each other since 2013. They met while participating in the Global Youth Leaders Forum (GYLF) and have been friends since then; a friendship that grew over the years into deep affection for each other, resulting in the beautiful wedding we witnesses the past weekend.

Philip, a Pastor's son and a drummer boy said he had since known inside him that they'll be together for life.

I hope all resident aprokos and amebos can afford the little data required to watch this short clip and get their facts right as they listen to the couple tell it themselves...Plus other juicy stuff.

Happy viewing

https://web.kingsch.at/posts/UVVqcXh


@lalasticlala oya

Love them

donnie:
They've known each other since 2013. They met while participating in the Global Youth Leaders Forum (GYLF) and have been friends since then; a friendship that grew over the years into deep affection for each other, resulting in the beautiful wedding we witnesses the past weekend.

Philip, a Pastor's son and a drummer boy said he had since known inside him that they'll be together for life.

I hope all resident aprokos and amebos can afford the little data required to watch this short clip and get their facts right as they listen to the couple tell it themselves...Plus other juicy stuff.

Happy viewing

https://web.kingsch.at/posts/UVVqcXh


@lalasticlala oya

na you dash them royal wedding abi? lol

The girl take style fine sha!
Mr OP I hope say you go the wedding abi na strictly by invitation?

MiddleDimension:


na you dash them royal wedding abi? lol

My dear, it was nothing short of Royal.
The decorations and ambience, heavenly.
My wife was there...
Every invited guest was chauffeured in limousine to the reception venue.
Several intercontinental dishes to choose from.
World class music and much more.

Ranchhoddas:
The girl take style fine sha!

Mr OP I hope say you go the wedding abi na strictly by invitation?

I got an invitation, but I didn't attend. I sha sent my wife who attended in company of her brother.

donnie:


I got an invitation, but I didn't attend. I sha sent my wife who attended in company of her brother.

Offering money dey work!

My offering wey I pay that year follow dey inside.

Dem for invite me make I come chop the money wey dem dey owe me.

Una still dey owe me!

donnie:


I got an invitation, but I didn't attend. I sha sent my wife who attended in company of her brother.

what is the criteria for giving out invitation?

https://www.nairaland.com/4771749/oyakhilome-similar-teachings-those-rosicrucian

@donnie, ser what i have here.
there are many more things but there is just no time for me to put them up.

and what actually happened that led to the divorce?

MiddleDimension:
https://www.nairaland.com/4771749/oyakhilome-similar-teachings-those-rosicrucian

@donnie, ser what i have here.
there are many more things but there is just no time for me to put them up.

and what actually happened that led to the divorce?

My Dad is AMORC.

I read their books in Dad's study for years. They and other cults like Grail Message have to refer to the bible time and time again, stealing its principles here and there but denying the son of God. The bible is the greatest book in the world with timeless truths and its message from Genesis to Revelation is THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS which these cults deny.

Pastor Chris' is undoubtedly one of the greatest bible teachers alive and his message glorifies the Lord Jesus Christ.

As per his marriage, his wife divorced him, according to court papers, for "unreasonable behaviour".

There were issues bothering on church leadership and authority. Some (including aggrieved former members) seized the opportunity to fuel the crises which they hoped will destroy the Church.

obviously you know very little about the Rosicrucian Order, @donnie.

they never stole anything from the bible for their teachings including those ones you see in tye bible, stretch back to the ancient Egyptian civilization which predates anything Judeo-Christian, including the Bible!

and no, they do not deny the sonship/lordship of Jesus or whatever christians call him. they simply do not meddle in the personal beliefs of their members, including their conception of God. this means that the one who believes that Jesus is his lord and God, should continue to do so. they only seek to bring to people that which in their opinion, is independent of religions, faiths or whatever you choose to call them, including christianity.

you said your father is a member, didn't you also tell me that he is a knight in the Catholic Church? which means he is a Christian and believes in the lordship of jesus as believed by you Christians.

the Rosicrucian Order is just not dogmatic like the church, the mosque, shrines and temples of the other religions, faiths, way of life, etc including christianity. Among them are christians, muslims, bhudists, hindus, adherents of the ATR, etc. the only people who are not their members are us Atheists. but many atheists like me still like to listen to them because of their love for knowledge.

and by the way, Oyakhilome also teaches that which is not expressly mentioned in the bible but taught explicitly by the Rosicrucian Order. it is the subject of Aura and Telepathy. Oyakhilome talked about this subject in that Rhapsody mesaage i posted in that thread, which was not talked about in the bible anywhere, but only in the books of these esoteric organizations. this raises the question: does he also get his teachings from extra biblical sources?

the Rosicrucian Order is not a christian organization, so it is not concerned with spreading the sonship of jesus. that is something left to the churches and christians to do. christians who are their members should do it outside the lodge.

also, the anita i see on her blog is not a bitter woman. and i do not think she nursed the idea of distroying your church.

NB: my post is not a PR for AMORC, but the things i have observes about them.

@donnie, the Order has repeated time and time again, and even won a court case brought against it by ECWA that they are not satanic, or a secrete cult like you have mentioned here.

the Grail movement, in one of thei public lectures i attended, stressed it several times that they are not a cult, or occultic, and even denounce a practice which they say is occultic. the practice of astral projection.

so if someone says i am not what you call me, i think the best thing to do is to respect it.
@joagbaje, what do you think?

@donnie, in the ''quiet time'' video i posted, Oyakhilome told you a technique. he said you should relax, basically. did the bible give you that? as a matter of fact, the Rosicrucian Order also told you to RELAX in that video i posted there. so who is ''stealing'' from whom?

and i am sorry about your parent divorcing, hope it is not about your father being a Rosicrucian?

MiddleDimension:
obviously you know very little about the Rosicrucian Order, @donnie.

Well, I know enough to know it's not for any heaven bound Christian. As long as it cannot give eternal life, it is not for me.

MiddleDimension:
they never stole anything from the bible for their teachings including those ones you see in tye bible, stretch back to the ancient Egyptian civilization which predates anything Judeo-Christian, including the Bible!

The Lord existed before the beginning. He laid the foundation of the world by His Holy Sipirit, the Spirit of wisdom by which the writers of the bible spoke. No wisdom of man can be more ancient.

1Peter 1:20 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

Hebrews 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

MiddleDimension:
They do not deny the sonship/lordship of Jesus or whatever christians call him. they simply do not meddle in the personal beliefs of their members, including their conception of God. this means that the one who believes that Jesus is his lord and God, should continue to do so. they only seek to bring to people that which in their opinion, is independent of religions, faiths or whatever you choose to call them, including christianity.

Colossians 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

If I am expected to spend my time on it, it must glorify Jesus.

MiddleDimension:
you said your father is a member, didn't you also tell me that he is a knight in the Catholic Church? which means he is a Christian and believes in the lordship of jesus as believed by you Christians.

the Rosicrucian Order is just not dogmatic like the church, the mosque, shrines and temples of the other religions, faiths, way of life, etc including christianity. Among them are christians, muslims, bhudists, hindus, adherents of the ATR, etc. the only people who are not their members are us Atheists. but many atheists like me still like to listen to them because of their love for knowledge.

Nope he isnt, but he is a "baptized Catholic". He is a scientist with a PhD. He refers to AMORC as a philosophical study. Actually, he will rather that everything in life were explained or interpreted scientifically but unfortunately, it isn't so. Science in itself is limited.

So I have heard enough of these your arguments over the years. Truth and life begins with Knowing Jesus.

John 17:3
And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.

MiddleDimension:
and by the way, Oyakhilome also teaches that which is not expressly mentioned in the bible but taught explicitly by the Rosicrucian Order. it is the subject of Aura and Telepathy. Oyakhilome talked about this subject in that Rhapsody mesaage i posted in that thread, which was not talked about in the bible anywhere, but only in the books of these esoteric organizations. this raises the question: does he also get his teachings from extra biblical sources?

Telepathy (the purported transmission of information from one person's mind to another without using any known human sensory channels or physical interaction) is a natural phenomenon subject to scientific observation; AMORC cannot lay claim to it, neither is it a CE teaching or doctrine even though it might have been mentioned for the purpose of explaining scriptural truth.

Mathew 9:4
Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, "Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts?

Go study the scriptural gifts of "Word of knowledge"

However, the context Pastor Chris would have used it is in admonishing Christians to guard or renew their minds or keep good company as wrong thoughts can be transmitted from one person to another. In the same way, positive thoughts can also be transmitted to bring about positive outcomes in others.

MiddleDimension:

also, the anita i see on her blog is not a bitter woman. and i do not think she nursed the idea of distroying your church.

Would have been better for you to ask me to read some old copy of Rhapsody. Certainly, not that blog as that'll defeat your purpose.

MiddleDimension:
@donnie, in the ''quiet time'' video i posted, Oyakhilome told you a technique. he said you should relax, basically. did the bible give you that? as a matter of fact, the Rosicrucian Order also told you to RELAX in that video i posted there. so who is ''stealing'' from whom?

RELAX:
-To stop feeling nervous or worried.
-To spend time resting or doing something enjoyable especially after you have been doing work


May 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.

Isaiah 32:17 The work of righteousness will be peace, And the effect of righteousness, quietness and assurance forever.


Isaiah 30:15 For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: and ye would not.

MiddleDimension:
and i am sorry about your parent divorcing, hope it is not about your father being a Rosicrucian?/

Well, that was part of the problem.

MiddleDimension:
@donnie, the Order has repeated time and time again, and even won a court case brought against it by ECWA that they are not satanic, or a secrete cult like you have mentioned here.

the Grail movement, in one of thei public lectures i attended, stressed it several times that they are not a cult, or occultic, and even denounce a practice which they say is occultic. the practice of astral projection.

so if someone says i am not what you call me, i think the best thing to do is to respect it.
@joagbaje, what do you think?

In a context , we are all in different cults as long as some secrecy and mysteries are involved as far as some people are concerned .

Joagbaje:


In a context , we are all in different cults as long as some secrecy and mysteries are involved as far as some people are concerned .

I love you so much, pastor. This thing you have said brought tears to my eyes. In fact, I will follow you right now.

donnie:



RELAX:
-To stop feeling nervous or worried.
-To spend time resting or doing something enjoyable especially after you have been doing work


May 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.

Isaiah 32:17 The work of righteousness will be peace, And the effect of righteousness, quietness and assurance forever.


Isaiah 30:15 For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: and ye would not.



Well, that was part of the problem.

can you see why it is not good to be a christian? christians go about tearing up homes because of the things they preach. you can see the harm they caused you too. ofcourse, if they do it to each other, na other people they no go do am too?

when will christians be free of bigotory?

also, those things you quoted there has got nothing to do with the topic

donnie:


Well, I know enough to know it's not for any heaven bound Christian. As long as it cannot give eternal life, it is not for me.



The Lord existed before the beginning. He laid the foundation of the world by His Holy Sipirit, the Spirit of wisdom by which the writers of the bible spoke. No wisdom of man can be more ancient.

1Peter 1:20 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

Hebrews 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:



Colossians 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

If I am expected to spend my time on it, it must glorify Jesus.



Nope he isnt, but he is a "baptized Catholic". He is a scientist with a PhD. He refers to AMORC as a philosophical study. Actually, he will rather that everything in life were explained or interpreted scientifically but unfortunately, it isn't so. Science in itself is limited.

So I have heard enough of these your arguments over the years. Truth and life begins with Knowing Jesus.

John 17:3
And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.



Telepathy (the purported transmission of information from one person's mind to another without using any known human sensory channels or physical interaction) is a natural phenomenon subject to scientific observation; AMORC cannot lay claim to it, neither is it a CE teaching or doctrine even though it might have been mentioned for the purpose of explaining scriptural truth.

Mathew 9:4
Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, "Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts?

Go study the scriptural gifts of "Word of knowledge"

However, the context Pastor Chris would have used it is in admonishing Christians to guard or renew their minds or keep good company as wrong thoughts can be transmitted from one person to another. In the same way, positive thoughts can also be transmitted to bring about positive outcomes in others.



Would have been better for you to ask me to read some old copy of Rhapsody. Certainly, not that blog as that'll defeat your purpose.

pastor @joagbaje, can you pls read this post and my post he is replying to and say something, pls.

so @donnie, you believe your dad is not ''heaven bound'', as you call it?

all through your life you've known him, is he worse than most people in the world?

and what if everything can be explained scientifically, and its just you that just do not know it yet?

is Christianity itself not limited? can it explain all things?

was Christianity right when it told us the world is only 6thousand years old? ask pastor @joagbaje

was it right when it tried to explain the diversity of life on Earth?

what about being wrong about human sexuality?

and when you say god has laid the foundation..., that can not be independently verified. and there is no. use quoting the Bible, because we ca easily go back to other holy books to quote that whose message is entirely different from the bible's and pass it as truth

MiddleDimension:
so @donnie, you believe your dad is not ''heaven bound'', as you call it?

all through your life you've known him, is he worse than most people in the world?

and what if everything can be explained scientifically, and its just you that just do not know it yet?

is Christianity itself not limited? can it explain all things?

was Christianity right when it told us the world is only 6thousand years old? ask pastor @joagbaje

was it right when it tried to explain the diversity of life on Earth?

what about being wrong about human sexuality?

and when you say god has laid the foundation..., that can not be independently verified. and there is no. use quoting the Bible, because we ca easily go back to other holy books to quote that whose message is entirely different from the bible's and pass it as truth

Do not use man's limitation to judge God's Word.

God is not limited. Jesus is alive, perfect and eternal and we are complete in Him who is the head of all principality and power. Everything, every principle, every theory must be subject to the Word and not the other way round.

There is Christianity, but there is the Word. The church might not have been aware of the fact that between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 is a very long period (several thousands to millions of years) but it was in the Word all the while.

The church is still growing into maturity, so there may be certain limitations but these wouldn't remain for ever, as long as our gaze is on The eternal Word of God who shall transform our mortal bodies to be comformed to his glorious body.

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

As for my Dad, I have personal revelation from God that he will be saved and the Word of God does not fail. I have put my trust in the Lord. When the clouds are full of rain, they empty themselves.

And there are many good and nice people in this world who will end up in hell for rejecting Jesus Christ of Nazareth. It is not of works, so no man will boast.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

MiddleDimension:



also, those things you quoted there has got nothing to do with the topic

And what have the scriptures I quoted got to do with tearing people's homes?

donnie:


Do not use man's limitation to judge God's Word.

God is not limited. Jesus is alive, perfect and eternal and we are complete in Him who is the head of all principality and power. Everything, every principle, every theory must be subject to the Word and not the other way round.

There is Christianity, but there is the Word. The church might not have been aware of the fact that between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 is a very long period (several thousands to millions of years) but it was in the Word all the while.

The church is still growing into maturity, so there may be certain limitations but these wouldn't remain for ever, as long as our gaze is on The eternal Word of God who shall transform our mortal bodies to be comformed to his glorious body.

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

As for my Dad, I have personal revelation from God that he will be saved and the Word of God does not fail. I have put my trust in the Lord. When the clouds are full of rain, they empty themselves.

And there are many good and nice people in this world who will end up in hell for rejecting Jesus Christ of Nazareth. It is not if works, so no man will boast.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

my heart sinks for you!

donnie:


And what have the scriptures I quoted got to do with tearing people's homes?

i did not say what you quoted is destroying homes. i mean the church with its teachings which has formed the likes of you and probably your mother the way you are, is tearing up homes. it tore up yours, right?

MiddleDimension:


i did not say what you quoted is destroying homes. i mean the church with its teachings which has formed the likes of you and probably your mother the way you are, is tearing up homes. it tore up yours, right?

You're not well at all. If I use your style of argument on you now, you'll start crying.

the world we live in is a world of disagreement, and unlike heaven and most things preached by the bible, this (the world being a place of disagreement), has all the elements of actuality; it is very real!

Quantum Theory has given us a beautiful analogy to help us understand this very well.

the monopoly of salvation (if at all there is any such thing as salvation), is completely unhelpful for you all.

donnie:


You're not well at all. If I use your style of argument on you now, you'll start crying.

i meant no disrespect at all, and pls forgive me if i offended you.

because I value family, is the reason i am upset your home got broken up by the bigotory the church and Christians teach

MiddleDimension:


i meant no disrespect at all, and pls forgive me if i offended you.

because I value family, is the reason i am upset your home got broken up by the bigotory the church and Christians teach

I see you're desperately looking for something with which to make a point but sorry, religion wasn't the only factor responsible for their breakup, as there were several others (I do not even have the whole story).

Assuming it was purely a religious problem, why didn't you rather see the breakup as a result of the introduction of AMORC teachings into a Christian marriage? After you will accuse others of being dogmatic or fundamentalists.

James 3:11
Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring?


2Timothy 2:19
But God's firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.”