Come to think of it,we all are like trying to show ourselves by our works( i too am included).Someone tried saying something about synergy.what do you think? How do we move forward?
I know we are good in our various aspects(3D,photoshop,coreldraw etc)But at the same time we have guys and ladies who are still coming up in the industry and needs assistance. How can we meet up with all these?
I remember we used to have graphic competitions in the past here in this section,But today reverse is the case.
I will have loved to see a nairaland graphics section where 60 percent members are pros and 40% learner. We all learn, but we can learn better when we do it collectively.
So which is the way forward?I'm saying this as a result of the idea OKX fired up.

U talk abt synergy fine, i talk abt activities, some times i just feel d thread is not wht it use to be no more,i came in here as a beginner too but wher re d pros now, all d activities,d challenging jobs re not anymore, dts wht we should talk abt,

I think the profs have left Section(graphics And Video) to a better graphics and mature forum,
like: www.deviantart.com
       www.graphicspalace.com
       Facebook Graphics Section
       www.nigerianbestforum.com
       
Nairaland Graphics And Video Section has turn a childish board,where people come and advertise there product for sell,
e.g Camara for sell in a Graphics-Video Board.

Gone are the days where we use to have great graphics design posting design in nairaland.

u've said well bro. at one point i left nairaland for up to 2 years.but a visit back moved me to repost some of my piece,because i felt i could offer one or two help to some people needing it but the effort was not encouraging in the forum so i have to stop.And to say the truth,i am becoming bored again but i want that spirit to be alive because this is a nigerian forum.
I have some other account with some other forum and i have also met some artist from nairaland in other forums also like deviantart/nigeria best forum.But my question is ,where is the way forward ? i was once a beginner and i want many of us to be saying the same thing. But how will people improve if you that knows dont put them thru?
LETS THINK ABOUT IT.

Maybe we just need a moderator.

or maybe everyone realized there wasn,t actually any real graphics in this section,just jokes

www.eziaha.deviantart.com

facebook page- FLAGSHIPARTS

honestly i thing the moderator of this thread is an apology! absolutely no use whatsoever. just look at the section. its a mess!

its definately a waste,i can beat my chest and say beginners dont learn a 5% tip in here. i wanted to start a tutorial here and our so called moderator cannot do his job.the tutorials keep deleting as they say its a spam.
go to deviant art and see inspirations.that is how a graphic environment should look. not turning it to a market or a place where anybody can post any junk and call it art.

there should be a way foward,lets come up with somthing more challenging.thats the only way a designer can improve by trying new things.

flagship:

or maybe everyone realized there wasn,t actually any real graphics in this section,just jokes

www.eziaha.deviantart.com

facebook page- FLAGSHIPARTS

dude, we agree but tot u should be talking abt way forward, if u say d graphics here are crap, dont forget u ve urs in here too, which is not speaking good for us all, so what u gon do?

the way forward is to seek not to impress everyone else here, which is one way of churning out rush jobs that do not make any statement.

we all need to go back to the drawing board and increase our standards and level of study. i believe we all agree that our foreign counterparts are the ones making a statement in this area so the best thing to do is to go nto research and find out wotmakes them tick, wot makes them produce such realistic and visually appealing works of art. if we can work on upping our level so it can compete with any other graphic designer's standard, the concept of synergy will instantly come into play bacause individual betterment will eventually lead to collective improvement

nw dts d right word u just spoke, synergy still as some barriers to be broken b4 it can actual come to full kick off at a great level and also we should not forget its limitation and advantages too but one thing ve length is the positive will always out turn the negatives,

It seems we are gradually coming to light.

what exactly do u have in mind?

flagship:

the way forward is to seek not to impress everyone else here, which is one way of churning out rush jobs that do not make any statement.

we all need to go back to the drawing board and increase our standards and level of study. i believe we all agree that our foreign counterparts are the ones making a statement in this area so the best thing to do is to go nto research and find out wotmakes them tick, wot makes them produce such realistic and visually appealing works of art. if we can work on upping our level so it can compete with any other graphic designer's standard, the concept of synergy will instantly come into play bacause individual betterment will eventually lead to collective improvement

flagship hits the point,i will like to see more quality works in here and more tutorials for those coming up in the industry. We can do it. only if we want to.

Thats true. I'm a novice in 3d rendering, I came here to get some tips, but this section is emptier than the gaming section

welll.quit tallking and get something done, daz our problem in this place,too much talk wit too little DO.

flagship:

welll.quit tallking and get something done, daz our problem in this place,too much talk wit too little DO.

I too dont like too much talk but if i may ask, do u have any idea u want to bring up? or show us something cool. Because u keep talking too

okay then, here i go.
Problem: A lot of people are complaining the forum has lost its allure and is slowly decaying as there are no marvelling works of art to encourage. that is as simple as the problem gets.

Possible solution:
i think a lot of my fellow graphic designers have lost sight of the nucleus of this noble, creative profession which aesthetic and informative attraction.
a graphic designer is one who calls attention to concepts and ideals through the art he creates.art is a world of possibilities limited only by the imagination of the artist. he is simply a computer-based version of a traditional artist and even at that he’s got an edge because a computer is more versatile in the end. somewhere along the line, the people in nairaland stopped discussing art and began discussing technique. this deviation from what should be began to tell on us as we got more interested in bringing up things like competitions and tutorials into the forum.do you see how everyone talks about points of interest in an artwork in all the other respected artist forums. usually these things(forums) are to inspire not educate because we are all suppose to be studious in order to excel at the job of inspiring others.we have bountiful sites for learning and personally, they are the most reason i ever come online.
if we want our precious Nigerian forum back there is only one way. we gotta stop trying to impress and instead look to inspiring. a reason greatly responsible for the decadence of this place is that most of the upcoming designers just throw in woteva they can scribble up with a design software instead starting off with the mentality of an artist. i got on this site about a whole year after I began learning photoshop because I took mediocrity in the artistic discipline as a shame.

I guess wot am trying to say is wot ave been clamouring all about for. hard work. this place is not goin to get any getter if all we do is throw up competitions and haphazardly created works. we need to create a standard for ourselves so that future designers will not stumble here and see some of our parodies of art. a good first step for the person who wants to take this work seriously is to go on all the popular artist sites on deviant art and immerse himself in the appreciation of real art. with the appreciation alive in your consciousness, the next step will be to go online and read more tutorials and books on your desired software of choice. while this is happening, you will literally be dying to quickly create something but giving in to this urge will only end in disappointment because you will be suddenly confronted by your inadequate skill as yet. after a period of studying tutorials , use the concept garnerd to create somethind along the line of wot u’ve seen so as not to get too out of line with your skill level. but this is only one part. you gotta have a bevy of friend or appraisers(who appreciate art of course, no the average nigeiran who is satisfied with wot woteva is created on a computer) who critique your work once they are complete. if the ratio is lop-sided, try again, learn some more, keep trying until the ration is on your side. believe me, the feeling of exhiliaration u get froma truly appreciated piece of art will boost your confidence in your abilities and thus your ability to improve. the effect will show on this forum,trust me.
thats my piece, i prob digressed along the line, but you get the gist.

on a personal note, i take my avowed profession very seriously and will do all in my power to increase the standard of digital art as soon as i have the wherewithal.

@ all especially flagship

my opinions:
if it takes a newbie 2 hours to create a work of art that u, (a pro) can produce in 5 minutes- it doesnt give u the right to 'diss' the work or classify it in a negative light.
art is subjective, and different levels of artistic expression inspire different levels of artists.
if someones artistic expression is too rudimentary for you- let it be, it may be inspiring to another artist.
(personally i would hang most Picasso's in my toilet where it wouldnt see daylight. lol)

i have read negative comments posted by some of u that could equally apply to the works u urselves have posted. (everyone has a margin for improvement)

tutorials and challenges ( i prefer that word to competitions) are a great motivation for artists to improve.
it is employed globally as a learning tool.

art does not exist without technique, discovering technique, in fact, serves as the key to unlocking the secrets of great art.
recently, new technology unlocked the key to DaVinci's layering technique of painting - providing artists with greater understanding and skill.
and where better to discuss technique than the graphics section.

if u want to just post ur works of art, i believe there is a gallery thread set up for that purpose.
the graphics section is a multi-purpose section- serving several functions, including annoying sales of hardware, soliciting for jobs etc. lol

my advice, just keep posting whatever.
natural selection sorts out the pack - allowing excellence rise to the top, naturally.

ignore posts that u find irrelevant, it may be another persons long-awaited solution.
with increased action and activity on all our parts + tolerance for all - the section will awaken.

my opinions, mind.

@ flagship

flagship:


if we want our precious Nigerian forum back there is only one way. we gotta stop trying to impress and instead look to inspiring.

u cannot be inspired if u are not impressed.
no offense meant, cos i believe u mean well, but there are many points in ur arguments that are just slightly misaligned.

flagship:

a good first step for the person who wants to take this work seriously is to go on all the popular artist sites on deviant art and immerse himself in the appreciation of real art. with the appreciation alive in your consciousness, the next step will be to go online and read more tutorials and books on your desired software of choice.

but this is only one part. you gotta have a bevy of friend or appraisers(who appreciate art of course, no the average nigeiran who is satisfied with wot woteva is created on a computer) who critique your work once they are complete.

that is precisely what the same people who u condemn their efforts and discourage from posting have been doing.
or dont u figure that this graphics section can be that place where their art is critiqued and they are tutored?
this is not an exclusive club for advanced practitioners only.

one can start an 'advanced artists gallery' if one feels so inclined.
but believe me, there will always be greater artists who will view ones 'advanced artwork'  as chicken scrawl. so who decides truly great or deserving art? even excellence is relative!

nuffsaid!

Awesome post,OKX.The post above me contains some important stuff and is quite brilliant.Very informative too.

@ flagship, people are different and so are their ideas,that is why i dont come up as a dark side critic.
Me for myself as a designer am sometimes not always satisfied with some designs i make. That is the way designers always feel, forget whether you are a beginner or pro. That is why i wanted a challenge in this section to improve our selves. What you think is a bomb can be nuttin to another designer. I'm saying this cos we may need each other @ a point in time.
@ OKX, wise words from u, keep it coming.
@ all, this is what i like hearing,we are heading somewhere from here,I want us to be having series of these tuts just as we have been doing in the past + the rules that apply. Or what do we think?

somebody tell the moderator to do his work. somebody is actually advertising land in this section! is Omnipotence dead on his computer?!!!

Guy we dont have a moderator in here. dont u understand?

How do i become a member of the graphics hub on naiarland and post job samples? I will be grateful for feedback.

BabeOnIdeas: How do i become a member of the graphics hub on naiarland and post job samples? I will be grateful for feedback.

Just open threads and show your works... u'll be recognized eventually and familiarity with fellow designers will develop... welcome.

Thank you

@all......after all i ve read...this is my take regarding this topic...what i really see is that people dont ever get serious with this...graphics, 3d animation, video editing and the rest of them is what u can do professionally as a career...not something u do because u got nothing else to do....and there is even no regulation wrt standards...how can mr A get a contract for 100k and mr B say dont worry...i can do it for 20k....and clients to respect the profession...its really something that should be given proper consideration