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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by oknee: 6:24am On Jan 01, 2019 |
winningwinner:So after this your plenty plenty grammar, u could not give one verse in the bible that supports first fruit. Na wah. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 6:26am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Kolping: 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by frankmoney(m): 6:28am On Jan 01, 2019 |
babeosisi:but how does it concern you ,what someone chooses to do with thier own money ? Nigerians should really learn to mind thier business , you didn't work for it , the person did , so you have no right to tell them what to do |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Willie2015: 6:29am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Omudia11: It is a scam. It was never practiced by Christ or any of his Apostles. The central point is giving with a cheerful heart....... Corinthians 9:7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by solomon201(m): 6:41am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Evercurious: Another one spotted. Already transferred yours? paying before earning yea? scammer |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 6:41am On Jan 01, 2019 |
First fruit was for Israel ,it was a law for them.It was agricultural produce and first of their animals We gentiles were never under the law and when we come to Christ we live by his grace not the laws of Israel . In the new testament ,which is where we draw doctrine from See what the Lord says about first fruit I Corinthians 15:23 says Christ is the firstfruits James 1:8 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created. So we are chosen to show forth his glory in order to draw others . We then are the first fruit because God in Christ already became a first fruit,a perfect example and by his death and resurrection he reaps us So the first fruit to the new testament saint is no longer talking about harvest of crops like the israelites had but a harvest of souls. Your pastors won't tell you this because it won't make them money.If you don't know what to do with your January salary please surprise your mother and father. The Bible says honor your mom and dad and there is a blessing to it. Give to the poor 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by pahen1991: 6:53am On Jan 01, 2019 |
babaolofin:im not here to justify if it's right to give your first salary, all I have to say is that sacrifice has a greater reward than giving |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Nobody: 6:54am On Jan 01, 2019 |
babeosisi: U mean God commanded Israelites to pay with Agricultural products n then commanded Nigerians to pay with Money 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by UnclePati: 6:58am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Omudia11: Christ is our first fruit.....the first to be raised from the dead....... |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by marvel2011(m): 7:01am On Jan 01, 2019 |
When do I need to consult you before using money. Its mine, so you don't tell m3 who to give |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 7:02am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Omudia11: So anything done from your heart is ok? See reasoning.Don't you know 419ers do it from the heart. The biggest problem with our folks is that corruption and bribery is the order of the day and has eaten deep into the psyche of our people .You bribe your way through everything and somehow the deceivers on our pulpits have also portrayed God as one that needs bribe money to bless you. Read the bible,God is not like the Nigerian police. He has given you all things freely,he says so himself. Why do you choose to believe the words of someone making merchandise of you instead of your heavenly Father who loves you? Some of his word's showing you don't need to tap into anything with money are: -ask and it shall be given,seek and you will find -Freely you have received ,freely give - I have given you all things that pertain to life and godliness. -He that didn't spare his own son,has freely given you all things -we have received the spirit of God so we can know the things freely given to us by God -...how much more will your heavenly Father give to those who ask him -delight in the Lord and he will give the desires of your heart -Every good and perfect gift is from above,from the father of lights with whom there is no variableness -but to each of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ''s gift Go find the passages and meditate on them to be set free from attempting to use money to buy blessings. Stop letting men manipulate you 3 Likes |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Omudia11: 7:06am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Did you know that Abel gave God from the first fruits of his harvest ? First fruit is not a command but something to be done from the heart.[quoted author=babeosisi post=74160236] Show me a single scripture where people were commanded to give and gave their first month salary ? One scripture only Not your pastor''s words ,produce it from the bible You don't tap onto anything,you have the same direct access to God as your MOG and he has given you all things freely the bible says[/quote] |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by infogenius(m): 7:07am On Jan 01, 2019 |
PrecisionFx:Lol! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Omudia11: 7:09am On Jan 01, 2019 |
So the one that Christ practiced have you practiced it? When was the last time you gave someone all your owned or even your life. Yes, we can go to the extremes if you want. Willie2015: |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by genkins(m): 7:09am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Pachesky:So all this trash without even one Christian scripture?abeg park well. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 7:20am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Omudia11: What an example! First of all Abel was murdered ,you didn't read that part? This is not to say first fruit leads to murder lol Secondly Abel gave to God according to their times you see there was no middle man there Why don't you slaughter a goat on an altar if you want to be like Abel Haven't you read of one whose blood speaks better thing's than that of Abel called Christ.You are called to be like Christ not Abel. Please move into the new testament 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by troy20(m): 7:24am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Reading your comment and all i could think of with that your moniker was the ISIS leader. An Islamic terrorist quoting the bible.... That's impressive |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 7:25am On Jan 01, 2019 |
babeosisi: Firstfruits are to be brought to the house of God and that is what pastors feed on and run the church with just as it was in the days of the temple. Paul said the same thing below. 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? 14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 7:26am On Jan 01, 2019 |
PDPGuy:It is not your entire January salary. Firstfruit is the same as tithe i.e 10% |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Misslagbaja: 7:27am On Jan 01, 2019 |
lunaticfringe: Lunatic ni e true true |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 7:28am On Jan 01, 2019 |
genkins: Ask him why he carefully left out the other injunctions in leviticus 23 and exodus 23 which he quoted to cling to first fruit after changing it to money. Any pastor that refuses to change their scamming ways will not survive the coming years as people wake up from slumber. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 7:29am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Goshen360:Where did I tell you that firstfruits is january salary? Where did Christ and his apostles teach about Sunday worship and night vigil? |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 7:31am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: I repeat.There is no place I said one must never give to support a pastor. It is freewill and what you purpose. Go back and read my original post. I said surrendering your January salary was neither commanded or implied anywhere for the new testament people. Any pastor teaching that as a biblical doctrine is a thief and a robber Paul didn't want his ministry to burden the people,he actually took up a job to meet the needs of his companions and his. Nigeria is hard A pastor shouldn't even depend solely on people and live off them let alone take their January salary. 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 7:31am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Aystarz:When someone acts foolish, you call him foolish. Even Paul called people foolish, buy you don't know cos you have never read the Bible before . Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by PunchlineAmund(m): 7:33am On Jan 01, 2019 |
myboy2111:Women are predominantly emotional beings. It's really sad they are the bigger victims of the religious brainwashing. A mother will do anything for her child. A single woman will go to any length to get a husband. And if what it will take is faith enveloped with a fat offering, its nothing to them really. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 7:33am On Jan 01, 2019 |
babeosisi:Where did I say you should surrender your January salary. Firstfruit is tithe and that's what you are ignorantly kicking against. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Ubdavis(m): 7:33am On Jan 01, 2019 |
lunaticfringe: I challenge u to challenge me. U are a lair. In fact u are a victim of religious brainwash. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by propsvila: 7:34am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Does it really concern people how I choose to spend my money, the only time I will speak against it is when it is made compulsory. But once someone willingly decided to give his or her first fruit then I have notji g against it. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 7:36am On Jan 01, 2019 |
TruthHurts100: Which part of the law of Moses contains the below words like we have in the Proverbs of Solomon? Proverbs 3:5-12. 5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. 7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil. 8 It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones. 9 Honour the Lord with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase: 10 So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine. 11 My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord; neither be weary of his correction: 12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth. 13 Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 7:36am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: See They can't even agree on what first fruit means. Confusion in high places Tithe is not commanded either but that's another topic |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Ubdavis(m): 7:37am On Jan 01, 2019 |
These things are simple. If u have good understanding of the Bible, no charlatan pastor will fool u. Don't argue with him, just walk away. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 7:39am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Again how do you honor the Lord Is your pastor the Lord? Read further down the same chapter ,you cleverly left that part out Let me help you 27Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due, when it is in your power to act. 28 Do not say to your neighbor, “Come back tomorrow and I’ll give it to you”— when you already have it with you |
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