What we are experiencing is the 3rd World War (WWIII) and it is trade war.

Just like Huawei is eating Apple, Xiaomi is eating Samsung in the middle-end department.

seunfly:
I wonder why people are blaming trade war and China, it is non of this.
The truth is smartphone market has slow down generally for both Android, iPhone or any other types.
Apple's case is extreme because of many factors which are 1) iPhones are uneccessarily expensive 2) apple deliberately compromised their older models to compel people to buy newer version and Apple has been caught which forced Apple to start proving options of replacing the compromised part such as batteries hence their is no need to buy new phone.
The last point is that iPhone is no longer leaders in innovation and feature so they are loosing ground to other phone maker who has better features and cost less.

You're so on point, bro.

kemicalreaction:
Oga park well, huawei is better than iPhone and I mean the second largest brand by sale.

That Huawei sold more of its cheap & substandard product in Asia and Africa does not make better than Iphone. A single Iphone X cost more than 350 thousand naira while huawei y6II cost 59000 naira. so do the maths. The gains made by huawei cheap products is pathetic. Iphone make more sale in second half of the year. When the statistics would be released, huawei have gone down to where it belong.

kemicalreaction:
And besides, wechat is 101% better than facebook. You should read up on the features of wechat.

Where is wechat in Nigeria, africa or the globe. It cannot compete because it has no balls to do so. Wechat is lying where it belong, the NNPC of China. I'm sure you do not use wechat but use whatsapp, go and use wechat and tell nairaland it is the best.

kemicalreaction:
You should read up on the features of wechat. Besides, huawei wasn't banned because of the quality (get that straight), it was banned in the USA because the US said China is using the company's 5G technology to spy.

"Compromise on standard" is a stock in china stock exchange, let them continue, if not trump decision to temper justice with mercy, for the sake of innocent workers in china paying for huawei stupidity, huawei would have folded and turned to a cloth assembly line.

kemicalreaction:
Do you know the kirin (huawei chipset) is the fastest in the world for now? IPhone is just an over hyped shi*.

Kirin or whatever you call it is a processor for mobile phones only . Unfortunately for your assumption, processor speed is not the basis for quality for mobile phones.

Let me take you out first, when China launched its bullet trains those days, they told us they are the fastest in the world then. But when reality set in as they battle with accidents and other mishap, nobody told them to bring down the speed to a standard level. Still sorry for Chinese citizens used as Guinea pigs to pay the ultimate sacrifice.


So coming back to Kirin whatever, that does not gurantee any better quality. Components like display and touch screen, sensors pieces, mouth and ear piece, wifi, battery technologies separate Iphone, samsung from the rest. And again company like Intel and AMD that has been producing quality processor for computers, phones, tablet, wearables for decades is still world no1.


On a final note, since huawei workers save their money to buy Iphone, on what ground do you still disturb people with this your imaginary huawei dream. Chinese people today still sell their kidney for Iphone. And the world's only trillion dollar Tech company still appreciate their effort with better innovation.

MrDoGood:


pls forget that dude. he knows nothing.

The useless huawei punishing its workers for using Iphone is still disgracing itself. Better hang your hope else where, not NNPC of China that does not understand its left or right.

Another hammer is hanging on its head for more stupidity.

MrDoGood:

Please don't expand your lies too much.
Thank you

Chinese sell their kidney for Iphone. Now you cannot stop them from using better tech product.

Two days ago, this happened:https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/chinas-huawei-tweets-happy-new-year-2019-wish-using-iphone-two-employees-demoted-1972454?amp=1&akamai-rum=off

encryptjay:
Someone comparing a company as big as Huawei to Tecno and Itel in the name of being an Apple fanboy.

Their product is same quality. Best sellers in Africa and Asia market.

NaijaTechGuy:

This guy feels Huawei is all about Modemslmao.

They are all about trashy Chinese product everywhere in Africa and Asia. Chinese are smarter now trying to save their all to buy Iphone.

Kamxin:


The useless huawei punishing its workers for using Iphone is still disgracing itself. Better hang your hope else where, not NNPC of China that does not understand its left or right.

Another hammer is hanging on its head for more stupidity.

Do you know why the workers had to use another phone?

NaijaTechGuy:


China doesn't need Apple to grow. Why didn't Apple set up a factory in the US. Let me get the facts clear.
China doesn't need any western support to stand.

On a general note the only support the USA gives to other countries is military support but if it's Tech support leave it to China, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.

Let's see how the trade war plays out.

Unfortunately for your assumption, Apple is a child of US and grew as big as it because of US support, for small and medium enterprises and its support for research.

Now it has survived those breast feeding days, and became a tech power house, China enticed it to close its factory in the US and come over to China with sweet and chewing gum in sort of Goverment support and cheap labour..

Today it is the largest foreign employer of labour in china and yield more tax revenue than any other company. And same time serve a model for others to follow en-route china. This was caused by previous US govts. Now Trump want to use sanction to bring them back.

So the case is China need Apple more than Apple need China.

Lavoca:
Do you know why the workers had to use another phone?

It is their choice to use any phone they want. They save their money for months or years and buy it. And Iphone is their choice.

Remember Chinese labour laws is one of the worst on earth. So they saved their peanuts to get to 1000 dollars.

NinjaMetahuman:
nope.
Apple needs china more than china needs it

Apple is moving to india anyway

I beg to disagree.
Explanation in above post.

MrDoGood:



Wechat, weibo and QQ
Do you even know how old they are?

No matter the age of chinese footballers they cannot compete outside china. In other words they are flop.

ollah2:


Most Apple fanboys are retarded. They know next to nothing but feel fly because they use an iPhone.

Thank God we have nothing like second ammendment in Nigeria.

Timi1990:


Correct. China clearly understands the Asian, African & South American market and know that not everyone will be able to afford a $1000 smartphone made by Apple, then they decided to provide something of the same spec with cheaper price . If not for China , how many people go eat phone for Africa ? Apple is just overrated

Overrated because you cannot afford to be changing Iphone like other brands. Thats what gives it better rating.

Kamxin:



That Huawei sold more of its cheap & substandard product in Asia and Africa does not make better than Iphone. A single Iphone X cost more than 350 thousand naira while huawei y6II cost 59000 naira. so do the maths. The gains made by huawei cheap products is pathetic. Iphone make more sale in second half of the year. When the statistics would be released, huawei have gone down to where it belong.





Where is wechat in Nigeria, africa or the globe. It cannot compete because it has no balls to do so. Wechat is lying where it belong, the NNPC of China. I'm sure you do not use wechat but use whatsapp, go and use wechat and tell nairaland it is the best.





"Compromise on standard" is a stock in china stock exchange, let them continue, if not trump decision to temper justice with mercy, for the sake of innocent workers in china paying for huawei stupidity, huawei would have folded and turned to a cloth assembly line.






Kirin or whatever you call it is a processor for mobile phones only . Unfortunately for your assumption, processor speed is not the basis for quality for mobile phones.

Let me take you out first, when China launched its bullet trains those days, they told us they are the fastest in the world then. But when reality set in as they battle with accidents and other mishap, nobody told them to bring down the speed to a standard level. Still sorry for Chinese citizens used as Guinea pigs to pay the ultimate sacrifice.


So coming back to Kirin whatever, that does not gurantee any better quality. Components like display and touch screen, sensors pieces, mouth and ear piece, wifi, battery technologies separate Iphone, samsung from the rest. And again company like Intel and AMD that has been producing quality processor for computers, phones, tablet, wearables for decades is still world no1.


On a final note, since huawei workers save their money to buy Iphone, on what ground do you still disturb people with this your imaginary huawei dream. Chinese people today still sell their kidney for Iphone. And the world's only trillion dollar Tech company still appreciate their effort with better innovation.

Seriously, I don't need to argue with you again. Yeah, Apple is the first trillion dollar company, but do you know that her stock has dropped to 600 billion dollars? Check the attached screenshot for the features of wechat which makes it 101% better than whatsapp. The fact still remains that China is the best in train/railway production. You should read up on the latest train China commissioned cos I can't start describing it here. China's bullet trains are still the best in the world. The only thing that is keeping iPhones afloat is its loyal customers like you . And it's not because iPhones have the best quality but you guys are yet to try other phone brands or you're simply not used to Android os.

I will keep saying this, iPhone is an overpriced shi**. Apples innovation died with her owner.

PS: I will be needing a link to verify your claim that huawei was banned as a result of compromise in standard. .

kemicalreaction:
Seriously, I don't need to argue with you again. Yeah, Apple is the first trillion dollar company, but do you know that her stock has dropped to 600 billion dollars? Check the attached screenshot for the features of wechat which makes it 101% better than whatsapp. The fact still remains that China is the best in train/railway production. You should read up on the latest train China commissioned cos I can't start describing it here. China's bullet trains are still the best in the world. The only thing that is keeping iPhones afloat is its loyal customers like you . And it's not because iPhones have the best quality but you guys are yet to try other phone brands or you're simply not used to Android os.

I will keep saying this, iPhone is an overpriced shi**. Apples innovation died with her owner.

PS: I will be needing a link to verify your claim that huawei was banned as a result of compromise in standard. .

Adding spyware to gadgets it manufacture is a compromise on standard. It keep denying, but countries are hitting them hard. Thats what govt property is all about.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-security/former-cia-boss-says-aware-of-evidence-huawei-spying-for-china-idUSBRE96I06I20130719?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C7180497423

Kamxin:



Adding spyware to gadgets it manufacture is a compromise on standard. It keep denying, but countries are hitting them hard. Thats what govt property is all about.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-security/former-cia-boss-says-aware-of-evidence-huawei-spying-for-china-idUSBRE96I06I20130719?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C7180497423

That's the only thing I can admit about huawei phones. Otherwise, huawei is far better than iphones

Kamxin:


Unfortunately for your assumption, Apple is a child of US and grew as big as it because of US support, for small and medium enterprises and its support for research.

Now it has survived those breast feeding days, and became a tech power house, China enticed it to close its factory in the US and come over to China with sweet and chewing gum in sort of Goverment support and cheap labour..

Today it is the largest foreign employer of labour in china and yield more tax revenue than any other company. And same time serve a model for others to follow en-route china. This was caused by previous US govts. Now Trump want to use sanction to bring them back.

So the case is China need Apple more than Apple need China.

China doesn't need Apple. It's as simple as that.

I saw your previous comments relating to Huawei. Go and look up the details of the Kirin processor and also the Huawei mate 20 pro. Then compare it with the latest Apple iPhone XS MAX and see the difference.

These are mere facts and figures not sentiments

NaijaTechGuy:

China doesn't need Apple. It's as simple as that.
I saw your previous comments relating to Huawei. Go and look up the details of the Kirin processor and also the Huawei mate 20 pro. Then compare it with the latest Apple iPhone XS MAX and see the difference.
These are mere facts and figures not sentiments

kirin processor is good no doubt, but in the processor market, they are just riff raff compared to Intel and AMD.

The fastness of a processor can never be a benchmark for phone quality.

Tomorrow infinix can produce a phone, and you can tell me to compare it with apple. Not me, tell someone else.

Lastly, Iphone is no1 tech product coming from china, If you know of any other inform me.

kemicalreaction:
That's the only thing I can admit about huawei phones. Otherwise, huawei is far better than iphones

You try , ����

Kamxin:


I beg to disagree.
Explanation in above post.

apple's biggest market is china just like nigeria is mtn biggest market.
thats why they have most of their investment in china. Just like mtn have most of their investments in nigeria.

the reason apple gave for current dwindling market share is because new iphone are not selling well in china (google this)

If they compeletly lose chinese market, although they will not close shop, but they will never be a trillion dollar company again.
Just like mtn will not close if they lose nigerian market, But they will never be as profitable again.

Apple's solution is to move to india cos of china/us war that would make them lose chinese market eventually if d war continues.
but we all know indians do not have purchasing power of chinese. tHeir smartphone market is already saturated. And wnt buy a thousand dollar smartphones when there are better cheaper alternatives.

so you see. Apple need china more than china need them.

NinjaMetahuman:


(1)

the reason apple gave for current dwindling market share is because new iphone are not selling well in china (google this)

(2)

If they compeletly lose chinese market, although they will not close shop, but they will never be a trillion dollar company again.


(3)

Apple's solution is to move to india cos of china/us war that would make them lose chinese market eventually if d war continues..

@(1) You missed the point. New Iphones is what make Apple buoyant in the market.

The reasons for poor performance are:
1. The one you pointed @(3).
2. Apple is a public company, when investors feel any anxiety, they withdraw by selling their shares.
3. The war with qualcomm, is taking a toll on investor confidence.
4. Statistics for last quarter of 2018 has not been released, so you cannot say they did not sell enough.
5. Chinese gov is investing heavily on chinese brands and to utilize any loop hole by Apple.

@(3) Apple has been growing for years even when It hasn't entered chinese market. From hundred to thousand to million to billion to trillion dollars. So China cannot stop it from getting better everyday. So time shall come when it will surpass that 1.1 trillion dollar mark it hit before.

Apple bring in foreign exchange better than any tech company in China, so it is money and technology, Jobs, bargining power, bragging right, buoyant economy, etc to lose for china. If Apple leave, chinese would be spending their foreign exchange to get apple product the way they spend to buy Benz products.

Apple have only money to lose, China do not want to lose more.

So Apple is more important to china than the other way round.

Kamxin:



@(1) You missed the point. New Iphones is what make Apple buoyant in the market.

The reasons for poor performance are:
1. The one you pointed @(3).
2. Apple is a public company, when investors feel any anxiety, they withdraw by selling their shares.
3. The war with qualcomm, is taking a toll on investor confidence.
4. Statistics for last quarter of 2018 has not been released, so you cannot say they did not sell enough.
5. Chinese gov is investing heavily on chinese brands and to utilize any loop hole by Apple.

@(3) Apple has been growing for years even when It hasn't entered chinese market. From hundred to thousand to million to billion to trillion dollars. So China cannot stop it from getting better everyday. So time shall come when it will surpass that 1.1 trillion dollar mark it hit before.

Apple bring in foreign exchange better than any tech company in China, so it is money and technology, Jobs, bargining power, bragging right, buoyant economy, etc to lose for china. If Apple leave, chinese would be spending their foreign exchange to get apple product the way they spend to buy Benz products.

Apple have only money to lose, China do not want to lose more.

So Apple is more important to china than the other way round.

ok.
we dey here.

Kamxin:


[s]It is their choice to use any phone they want. They save their money for months or years and buy it. And Iphone is their choice.

Remember Chinese labour laws is one of the worst on earth. So they saved their peanuts to get to 1000 dollars[/s]

I'm disappointed that you are ignorant of the whole situation except for the sensational headline you read

In an internal Huawei memo, dated January 3 and seen by Reuters news agency, corporate Senior Vice President and Director of the board Chen Lifang said, "The incident caused damage to the Huawei brand."
The mistake occurred when outsourced social media handler Sapient experienced "VPN problems" with a desktop computer, so used an iPhone with a roaming SIM card in order to send the message on time at midnight, Huawei said in the memo.
Blocked in China
Twitter, like several foreign services such as those from Facebook Inc and Alphabet Inc, is blocked in China, where the Internet is heavily censored. To gain access, users need a virtual private network (VPN) connection.

Lavoca:
I'm disappointed that you are ignorant of the whole situation except for the sensational headline you read

Put it any how you like, add ingridents like any soup on fire, paint the white shirt black, become a senior propaganda handler of huawei or any authoritarian chinese regime.

See how corner corner your story, sorry chinko cover up was running around. If I were in their shoe I will do same thing Samsung did when their battery was faulty. Own up and retain your integrity. Ironically, integrity is last thing a chinese company can have. Let them keep punishing innocent souls.

The bottom line remain that "HUAWEI USE IPHONE TO SEND MESSAGE". If you are still not donfortable. Another ban on huawei product is still coming.

KingLennon:
As much as I love quality but I think Apple products are currently overpriced. Its gonna get worse if they don't do something about it

I quote agree with you. Its just so unnecessary

Kamxin:


The useless huawei punishing its workers for using Iphone is still disgracing itself. Better hang your hope else where, not NNPC of China that does not understand its left or right.

Another hammer is hanging on its head for more stupidity.

how? Why won't they punish someone that openly displays that he uses a competitor's brand? If na you get huawei and your employee post via iphone you no go sack am?

Omololu001:
I don't see anything special in I phones, I'm planning on getting the Huawei p30 pro when it is release

that device is a very good device.

NaijaTechGuy:


China doesn't need Apple to grow. Why didn't Apple set up a factory in the US. Let me get the facts clear.
China doesn't need any western support to stand.

On a general note the only support the USA gives to other countries is military support but if it's Tech support leave it to China, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.

Let's see how the trade war plays out.

this war won't end. And this is what I like. This war will make them release good devices and possibly at reduced price. Consumers will be the ones gaining.

Iphone is fast fading away like BB , i pity those who still patronize iphone, soon the phone will be a write off. Noting last for ever.

Blastedholligan:
how? Why won't they punish someone that openly displays that he uses a competitor's brand? If na you get huawei and your employee post via iphone you no go sack am?

It only underline the fact that Huawei and its products can never be relied upon. And that Iphone is their workers choice QED

Lavoca:
I'm disappointed that you are ignorant of the whole situation except for the sensational headline you read

I still can't believe that someone would sit down and read that trash from the company.

To make matter worse you brought it here for nigerians to read. Pure trash that can never worth the pen that wrote it.