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Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by hahn(m): 8:11am On Jan 29, 2019
johnydon22:
No Christian can help us here answer this question. That's kinda funny.

Next time on another thread now, they will be yapping about the purpose and meaning of life.

E don set now, they are no show

Na their way. Makes me remember my thread where I gave them a chance to prove their god is real and they all ran away.

Religion is really about convenience
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by Evangkatsoulis: 12:54pm On Jan 29, 2019
futurist369:
johhny it's such an honor to be finally able to meet the great physicist.. I love you Johnny.....well I don't believe in a heaven or hell..... we all are here with a mission........am still an o level student but have been reading quantum physics...according to qp everything is energy(including humans), and energy cannot be created nor destroyed(do you get where am driving to?)....its an honor to be able to quote you

Great physicist? Wtf!
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by johnydon22(m): 12:58pm On Jan 29, 2019
Evangkatsoulis:


Great physicist? Wtf!
IKR

Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by johnydon22(m): 6:42pm On Jan 29, 2019
hahn:


Na their way. Makes me remember my thread where I gave them a chance to prove their god is real and they all ran away.

Religion is really about convenience

Let me be waiting shaa
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by hahn(m): 8:43am On Jan 30, 2019
johnydon22:


Let me be waiting shaa

Still waiting?
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by Anas09: 12:58pm On Jan 30, 2019
johnydon22:
I give up on you
Hmmmm. Jon, Jon, Jon. how many times did i call you?
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by johnydon22(m): 1:00pm On Jan 30, 2019
Anas09:

Hmmmm. Jon, Jon, Jon. how many times did i call you?

Are you answering the question or not?
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by Anas09: 1:07pm On Jan 30, 2019
johnydon22:


Are you answering the question or not?
Your question is stupid. As far as you are concern, there's no God. Case closed. Move on with your life.
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by johnydon22(m): 3:45pm On Jan 30, 2019
Anas09:

Your question is stupid. As far as you are concern, there's no God. Case closed. Move on with your life.
hahaha I agreed with you there is a God. Let's base our argument on those fundamental assumptions.

- There is a God
-There is an afterlife.

Now, take it from there.

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Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by Ranchhoddas: 8:39pm On Jan 30, 2019
Anas09:

O'Level as in Secondary school?

What the hell am i doing in Nairaland?

Deactivating ASAP.

Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by Ranchhoddas: 8:50pm On Jan 30, 2019
Using the premise of the thread, I'll say our minds are finite thus it is not possible to fathom unending time and all its possibilities. Infinite space that we can see boggles the mind of even the most accomplished of scientists and philosophers.
The same would be true for infinite time and practically anything that can be described as infinite. It is unreasonable to expect a satisfactory answer from anyone, least of all people whose conceptions of forever comes from religious beliefs.
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by Anas09: 9:53pm On Jan 30, 2019
johnydon22:
hahaha I agreed with you there is a God. Let's base our argument on those fundamental assumptions.

- There is a God
-There is an afterlife.

Now, take it from there.
I do not assume that there's God. I know for a fact that there's God, and until you and i stand on that premise, we can't have this conversation.

It's either there's God who did what you are implying or there's no God.

Remember, i no dey beg you to believe say God dey.
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by johnydon22(m): 10:01pm On Jan 30, 2019
Anas09:

I do not assume that there's God. I know for a fact that there's God, and until you and i stand on that premise, we can't have this conversation.

It's either there's God who did what you are implying or there's no God.

Remember, i no dey beg you to believe say God dey.

Ok, since a simple basis flies back your head.

There is a God

Now go from there, answer the question.
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by SarcasticMe(m): 10:19pm On Feb 07, 2019
johnydon22:
One of the questions that theists easily throw at people who show skepticism or disbelief in Gods or afterlife is "What is the meaning of life? what is the purpose of life if we do not have an afterlife?"

Somehow i find this question to be shallow because one must first make a logical leap of assuming that "meaning and purpose" are inherent universal qualities before basing such question on that premise.

The argument can be summarized this way;

Life is limited
there is suffering in life
life ends eventually, therefore, what is the meaning and purpose of it all?

We could explore this question on this thread too. But however, i am returning the favor to theists who ask this question.

I will assume there is a heaven, i will assume for this premise there is an afterlife, we need not argue over that for this thread.

What exactly is the meaning of an eternal life in heaven? Demonstrate its meaningfulness and how it is derived?

What is the purpose of a life without end? Demonstrate this purpose and how it is derived?

Life does have it's purpose. We Christians are just apprehensive of the fact that this life is just a journey unto an eternal one. And on this journey, we're expected to do as much good as we can - live with the fear of God and help others.
When we leave this world, we're promised an everlasting life of fulfilment - such that is beyond the confines of our human understanding, because we obviously won't be wearing this body anymore.
The closest human feeling I can compare it to is "perfect peace."
Now, the chaos and sin of this world may make the notion foreign to you. And the fact that you keep denying such place of perfect peace exists, shows how immersed you are into all the chaos in this world - the love of the world.
PS: next time you want to base your thread on an unassuming assumption, you must be careful not to cross the boundary of the said assumption. Your discourse contains ostentatious statements, which would normally drive people off the question. The assumptions within your question is definitely not based on curiosity, but, rather on the need for you to see where the 'shallowness' (in context of your words) leads - so you can make more ostentatious statements.
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by johnydon22(m): 8:37am On Feb 08, 2019
SarcasticMe:


Life does have it's purpose. We Christians are just apprehensive of the fact that this life is just a journey unto an eternal one. And on this journey, we're expected to do as much good as we can - live with the fear of God and help others.
ok

When we leave this world, we're promised an everlasting life of fulfilment - such that is beyond the confines of our human understanding, because we obviously won't be wearing this body anymore.
awfully convenient


The closest human feeling I can compare it to is "perfect peace."
Example of such thing.


Now, the chaos and sin of this world may make the notion foreign to you. And the fact that you keep denying such place of perfect peace exists, shows how immersed you are into all the chaos in this world - the love of the world.
What are we talking about again?


PS: next time you want to base your thread on an unassuming assumption, you must be careful not to cross the boundary of the said assumption. Your discourse contains ostentatious statements, which would normally drive people off the question. The assumptions within your question is definitely not based on curiosity, but, rather on the need for you to see where the 'shallowness' (in context of your words) leads - so you can make more ostentatious statements.
Should i still wait for an answer or is this it?
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by SarcasticMe(m): 9:00am On Feb 08, 2019
johnydon22:
ok
awfully convenient

Example of such thing.

What are we talking about again?

Should i still wait for an answer or is this it?

I obviously can't satisfy your malicious and shady probing... My answers to you are indirectly directed at those Christians you're aiming to lure away from the light.
If your mind can't conceive a perfect world, how would I convince you of its meaning? Work on your mind, and stop spiting what you don't understand.
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by Hermes019: 12:31pm On Feb 08, 2019
SarcasticMe:


I obviously can't satisfy your malicious and shady probing... My answers to you are indirectly directed at those Christians you're aiming to lure away from the light.
If your mind can't conceive a perfect world, how would I convince you of its meaning? Work on your mind, and stop spiting what you don't understand.
So why are christaians afraid to die,if you offer 100 Nigerians who are living on meagre income a free visa to travel the U.K along with a permanent resident permit and a 1 million pound check, do you think any of them would hesitate
Now let's switch it to u guys,ur heaven is a perfect place and of course earth is a place of suffering and turmoil but no christian wants to die and go to heaven,you all want to continue to suffer with us on earth,u can imagine some of u praying to live for 100 years on earth with all the problems and difficulties u have especially in this part of the world instead of praying to die and Go to heaven and enjoy

U think say we be MUGU ?

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Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by johnydon22(m): 2:35pm On Feb 08, 2019
SarcasticMe:


I obviously can't satisfy your malicious and shady probing... My answers to you are indirectly directed at those Christians you're aiming to lure away from the light.
If your mind can't conceive a perfect world, how would I convince you of its meaning? Work on your mind, and stop spiting what you don't understand.

Any time now, i am sure you can answer the question, i will wait a little while longer
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by Nobody: 7:58am On Feb 09, 2019
Hermes019:

So why are christaians afraid to die,if you offer 100 Nigerians who are living on meagre income a free visa to travel the U.K along with a permanent resident permit and a 1 million pound check, do you think any of them would hesitate
Now let's switch it to u guys,ur heaven is a perfect place and of course earth is a place of suffering and turmoil but no christian wants to die and go to heaven,you all want to continue to suffer with us on earth,u can imagine some of u praying to live for 100 years on earth with all the problems and difficulties u have especially in this part of the world instead of praying to die and Go to heaven and enjoy

U think say we be MUGU ?
I asked my mom this same question 3 years ago and This was her response:

"So you want me to die? If you promise me all that in Canada and I went there only to discover that you didn't prepare anything for me I could easily travel back to Nigeria but I can't do the same if I'm dead "
Re: What Is The Purpose In Heaven Or Meaning In Eternal Life? by Joelobioha(m): 10:27am On Jul 18, 2021
johhny it's such an honor to be finally able to meet the great physicist.. I love you Johnny.....well I don't believe in a heaven or hell..... we all are here with a mission........am still an o level student but have been reading quantum physics...according to qp everything is energy(including humans), and energy cannot be created nor destroyed(do you get where am driving to?)....its an honor to be able to quote you
I've been always meaning to come across a thread as this..questions that make u reason ur existence afresh.

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