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The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:30am On Mar 05, 2019
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The preservation of the Quran:

The Quran is the Book of Allah and the last revelation which abrogated the previous divine books. There is no doubt that this book is preserved from any alteration and falsification. It was transmitted to the Muslims, generation by generation, by absolute evidences. Since its revelation it was kept intact in its written form and memorized [by millions of Muslims], young and old people, males and females, Arabs and non-Arabs. No one could add a letter to it or remove a letter from it. The differences that might happen in the interpretation of the Quran does not mean that it was falsified, as interpreting the meaning of the Quran is not considered as adding to it or taking out anything from it. The difference in the interpretation of the verses is of two kinds:

Similar interpretations: [Different interpretations but similar in meaning], like when there is a difference in the term. Example: The true path is interpreted to mean the Quran or Islam. Both interpretations are correct. This kind of interpretation is not a difference in reality.

Second interpretation: Contradiction in the interpretation, in a way that the first meaning contradicts the second meaning. So this is the real difference. For instance the interpretation of menses in the verse of Allah (which means): "And divorced women shall wait (as regards their marriage) for three menstrual periods." [Quran 2:228]. Some interpreters of the Quran interpreted it to mean the beginning of menses and some interpreted it to mean the beginning of being pure from the menses. This is because the word in the Arabic language accepts both meanings. So when this kind of difference of interpretation occurs, then in order to favor one meaning over the other, one resorts to another text in the Quran or in the sayings of the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) and the like.

The verses of the Quran are interpreted by other verses or by a saying of the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ). If there is no other verse to interpret the first verse and no Prophetic narration, then one has to resort to the sayings of the companions, may Allah be pleased with them, as they witnessed the revelation. If there is nothing of the above at all, then one interprets the verse according to the meaning of the words in the Arabic language as the Quran was revealed in Arabic. Therefore, there are some requirements when interpreting the Quran and there is even a science called the Usool Al-Tafseer (Principles of interpretation). As regards people who use verses from the Quran, if they can find any [that could apply to them], to justify their conduct, then we cannot rule by this conduct that the deficiency is in the Quran. Rather it is by the Quran that we judge whether the conduct of people is proper or not.

The Quran remained preserved in its original form through the centuries despite the weakness that the Muslim nation underwent, the vanishing of the Muslim caliphate, and the dispute and difference amongst the Muslims. Despite all this, the Quran remained preserved and protected by Allah, which is one of its miracles.

The Bible: Many people refer to the Injeel (the book that was revealed to prophet 'Eesaa, may Allah exalt his mention) by the term "The Bible". But one can surely say, and without any doubt, that the Injeel has been altered and changed by human beings throughout history and the original copy no longer exists.

On the other hand, some people use the term "The Bible" to refer the book used by the Christians, and to those people we say the following:

In the Quran Allah informs us that He revealed a number of books, including the pages of Prophet Abraham (Ibraheem may Allah exalt his mention), the Psalms of Prophet David (Dawood may Allah exalt his mention), the Torah of Prophet Moses (Moosa may Allah exalt his mention), the Injeel (Gospel) of Prophet Jesus ('Eesa may Allah exalt his mention), and finally, the Quran of Prophet Muhammad, sallalaahu 'alayhi wa sallam. Of these revealed texts only the Quran remains intact in its original form. All of the others (as complete books) have been lost, their remains have survived only as fragments or tampered with in some way so as to make their authenticity doubtful.

Nowhere in the Quran is the Bible even mentioned, to say nothing of its being among the revealed texts of Allah, or as Christian claim "The Word of God." Further, we know from respected scholars that although some fragments of the Psalms, the Torah, and the Injeel (the teachings of Prophet 'Eesa may Allah exalt his mention) may be found in the Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments, the Bible cannot rightfully be called "The Word of God." Why is this so?

As one publisher (Tyndale House Publishers, Inc., Wheaton, Illinois) stated: 'The Bible may look like one book, but it is actually sixty-six books in one. Thirty-nine books make up what we call the Old Testament, and twenty-seven make up the New Testament. It is possible that more than forty writers were used by God to write all sixty-six books.' (Quoted from the "Holy Bible" – New Living Translation, Gift and Award Edition, l997, p. vii)

So if the Bible is neither narrated by God nor written by Him, and, as such, is not ‘the word of God,' then what is it? By any objective criteria, the Bible is a book containing a compilation of stories, legends, folk tales, folk lore, myths, sagas, narratives, poetry, fragments of scriptures (fragments from the Psalms, the Torah, and the Injeel as already mentioned), letters (esp. in New Testament), visions, dreams, accounts of events from doubtful sources (not eye witnesses), editors’ or scribes’ notes, as well as human errors.


For those who believe in it, it is a book that has historical, cultural, moral and ethical values, and a source of spiritual teaching and guidance. It is a book held in high esteem, primarily by Christians who see it as a divine book and the source of their religious beliefs. But, in the final analysis it is only a book with many limitations and imperfections which disqualify it from being called "The Word of God." Whoever makes such a claim then the burden of proof rests with him. On the contrary, the Glorious Quran is the Speech of Allah and, through the Angel Gabriel, was revealed to Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ); later compiled into a book more than 14 centuries ago it remains in its original form until today.

Common misunderstandings about the Bible: Some common misunderstandings about the Bible include the following:

* The Bible is one book, the Old Testament. The Bible contains sixty-six books (or more depending upon the denomination one belongs to).

* The Old Testament (OT) is the Torah followed by the Jews. The OT contains some fragments of the Torah which was lost and the Psalms, but the Talmud is the book followed by the Jews and is totally unrelated to the Bible.

* The New Testament (NT) is the Gospel of Prophet Jesus, or the Injeel. It is neither. It is made up of twenty-seven books, none of which was narrated or written by Prophet 'Eesaa although the NT may contain fragments of the Injeel (sayings and teachings of Prophet 'Eesaa). The Injeel as revealed through Prophet Jesus has been lost. The fragments which may be cited in the NT may not be authentic or in their proper context. So it is erroneous to equate the NT with the Injeel mentioned in the Quran.

* The Bible is a holy book, narrated, dictated by God and is infallible. While this is a claim, this misconception has already been addressed. Since the Bible is 'only' a book, there is no need to call it a forgery, a corrupted text, etc. The Quran is the only authentic "Word of God," His Speech, and Allah has promised to protect it from distortion of any kind until the Day of Judgment and He has kept His promise. Not one letter or syllable has been changed over the past 14 centuries.


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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by Nobody: 11:05am On Mar 05, 2019
You see your life .

Copy and paste..

On issue you have no knowledge of. .


Be it the write up you copied is correct or not . You don't know..


SMH

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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by Nobody: 11:11am On Mar 05, 2019
To people reading
..


Quran is the only book of Allah that exists..


Injeel
Taorah .. Does not exist again.

Bible is not injeel..


Bible is written by unknown authors with different accounts of happenings. .



Injeel is a book given to nabiy eesa while taorah was given to nabiy musa..



There's hadith showing that taorah existed during rosul era.. Real taorah . . It's with the scribes ..


Taorah was not changed nor tampered with ..

It's their scribes that's intentionally not reading nor acting towards what's in it. .



Today. . Or after rosul death ... There is no account of taorah from sahabahs..


I will post the hadith now

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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by abdulazeez1002(m): 12:33pm On Mar 07, 2019
Abuheekmat:
Hadith



حَدَّثَنِي الْحَكَمُ بْنُ مُوسَى أَبُو صَالِحٍ، حَدَّثَنَا شُعَيْبُ بْنُ إِسْحَاقَ، أَخْبَرَنَا عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ، عَنْ نَافِعٍ، أَنَّ عَبْدَ اللَّهِ بْنَ عُمَرَ، أَخْبَرَهُ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم أُتِيَ بِيَهُودِيٍّ وَيَهُودِيَّةٍ قَدْ زَنَيَا فَانْطَلَقَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم حَتَّى جَاءَ يَهُودَ فَقَالَ ‏‏ مَا تَجِدُونَ فِي التَّوْرَاةِ عَلَى مَنْ زَنَى ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالُوا نُسَوِّدُ وُجُوهَهُمَا وَنُحَمِّلُهُمَا وَنُخَالِفُ بَيْنَ وُجُوهِهِمَا وَيُطَافُ بِهِمَا ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ فَأْتُوا بِالتَّوْرَاةِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ صَادِقِينَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَجَاءُوا بِهَا فَقَرَءُوهَا حَتَّى إِذَا مَرُّوا بِآيَةِ الرَّجْمِ وَضَعَ الْفَتَى الَّذِي يَقْرَأُ يَدَهُ عَلَى آيَةِ الرَّجْمِ وَقَرَأَ مَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهَا وَمَا وَرَاءَهَا فَقَالَ لَهُ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ سَلاَمٍ وَهْوَ مَعَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم مُرْهُ فَلْيَرْفَعْ يَدَهُ فَرَفَعَهَا فَإِذَا تَحْتَهَا آيَةُ الرَّجْمِ فَأَمَرَ بِهِمَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَرُجِمَا ‏.‏ قَالَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ كُنْتُ فِيمَنْ رَجَمَهُمَا فَلَقَدْ رَأَيْتُهُ يَقِيهَا مِنَ الْحِجَارَةِ بِنَفْسِهِ ‏.‏"



Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that a Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) who had committed adultery. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came to the Jews and said:

What do you find in Torah for one who commits adultery? They said: We darken their faces and make them ride on the donkey with their faces turned to the opposite direction (and their backs touching each other), and then they are taken round (the city). He said: Bring Torah if you are truthful. They brought it and recited it until when they came to the verse pertaining to stoning, the person who was reading placed his hand on the verse pertaining to stoning, and read (only that which was) between his hands and what was subsequent to that. Abdullah b. Salim who was at that time with the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Command him (the reciter) to lift his hand. He lifted it and there was, underneath that, the verse pertaining to stoning. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) pronounced judgment about both of them and they were stoned. Abdullah b. 'Umar said: I was one of those who stoned them, and I saw him (the Jew) protecting her (the Jewess) with his body.



Sahih Muslim 1699 a
In-book : Book 29, Hadith 40
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 17, Hadith 4211  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim
How does this Hadith you just copied relate with what Op is talking about?

You are dumb. I swear

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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by abdulazeez1002(m): 4:13pm On Mar 07, 2019
Abuheekmat:



That's a dumb question..

If that's not your manhaj.. State yourself clear of the things I said you believe in
Who are you to state myself to you?

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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by Nobody: 4:31pm On Mar 07, 2019
abdulazeez1002:
What are you to state myself to you?


Not to me... But to everyone reading
Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by Rashduct4luv(m): 5:31pm On Mar 07, 2019
Sissie

I don't know how you can help us with this Abuheekmat

He has been derailing spoiling thread over here not to talk of his pushing everyone just to call them Kafir!

This stupidity must not continue!



lalasticlala

Seun
Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by isram: 9:38am On Mar 22, 2019
Dont even compare the Bible with your quran, that one man sat down took the Bible and edited the stories to please his selfish interest,
Abuheekmat:
To people reading
..


Quran is the only book of Allah that exists..


Injeel
Taorah .. Does not exist again.

Bible is not injeel..


Bible is written by unknown authors with different accounts of happenings. .



Injeel is a book given to nabiy eesa while taorah was given to nabiy musa..



There's hadith showing that taorah existed during rosul era.. Real taorah . . It's with the scribes ..


Taorah was not changed nor tampered with ..

It's their scribes that's intentionally not reading nor acting towards what's in it. .



Today. . Or after rosul death ... There is no account of taorah from sahabahs..


I will post the hadith now

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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by isram: 9:40am On Mar 22, 2019
leave the sheep
marviessss:
I dont know why this moslems are just ranting ,you better accept Christ b4 it's too late
Allah is just a god
When you call something a God
He shud be supreme ,and also be able to pray to him in any position and any time and any language
But Allah can only be prayed to in Arabic
Same thing for Ogun ( a yoruba god ) you can only pray to him in yoruba ,you can pray to to him in igbo language same thing for all those idols
I think Mohammed just wanted to promote Arabic language
Even when moslems are praying ,they always have to face a point (maybe north am not sure) wait is your own god facing one side
Answer these questions and I will also join Islam

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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by proxillin(m): 9:42am On Mar 22, 2019
1. Quran has been altered and contaminated from time to time.

It has been proved archaeologically.

2. Mohammed claimed the world of Allah cannot be altered, yet you muslims go about saying Bible is corrupt. It seems quran is also false.

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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by Nazzyauri(m): 9:46am On Mar 22, 2019
Excaperx:
Terrorists should mind their business and never mention bible again
We Muslims will continue saying the truth... Come and beat us. Ode
Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by proxillin(m): 10:03am On Mar 22, 2019
My Infidel Christian brothers, here is a gift I got you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlzlBov9zc

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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by OkunrinOloro: 10:24am On Mar 22, 2019
But the koran was corrupted right from its earliest days.

Go and read what Aisha had to say about the corruption of the koran.

[img]https://images./3B11vcjhulNA4jv7DSDwwf.jpg[/img]

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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by zoedicus: 10:33am On Mar 22, 2019
Allah be praised. he must be impressed by this your write up.
Don't worry, he will surely multiply your own virgins by 10 so you have enough of them in aljaana. grin grin grin

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The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II


The preservation of the Quran:

The Quran is the Book of Allah and the last revelation which abrogated the previous divine books. There is no doubt that this book is preserved from any alteration and falsification. It was transmitted to the Muslims, generation by generation, by absolute evidences. Since its revelation it was kept intact in its written form and memorized [by millions of Muslims], young and old people, males and females, Arabs and non-Arabs. No one could add a letter to it or remove a letter from it. The differences that might happen in the interpretation of the Quran does not mean that it was falsified, as interpreting the meaning of the Quran is not considered as adding to it or taking out anything from it. The difference in the interpretation of the verses is of two kinds:

Similar interpretations: [Different interpretations but similar in meaning], like when there is a difference in the term. Example: The true path is interpreted to mean the Quran or Islam. Both interpretations are correct. This kind of interpretation is not a difference in reality.

Second interpretation: Contradiction in the interpretation, in a way that the first meaning contradicts the second meaning. So this is the real difference. For instance the interpretation of menses in the verse of Allah (which means): "And divorced women shall wait (as regards their marriage) for three menstrual periods." [Quran 2:228]. Some interpreters of the Quran interpreted it to mean the beginning of menses and some interpreted it to mean the beginning of being pure from the menses. This is because the word in the Arabic language accepts both meanings. So when this kind of difference of interpretation occurs, then in order to favor one meaning over the other, one resorts to another text in the Quran or in the sayings of the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) and the like.

The verses of the Quran are interpreted by other verses or by a saying of the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ). If there is no other verse to interpret the first verse and no Prophetic narration, then one has to resort to the sayings of the companions, may Allah be pleased with them, as they witnessed the revelation. If there is nothing of the above at all, then one interprets the verse according to the meaning of the words in the Arabic language as the Quran was revealed in Arabic. Therefore, there are some requirements when interpreting the Quran and there is even a science called the Usool Al-Tafseer (Principles of interpretation). As regards people who use verses from the Quran, if they can find any [that could apply to them], to justify their conduct, then we cannot rule by this conduct that the deficiency is in the Quran. Rather it is by the Quran that we judge whether the conduct of people is proper or not.

The Quran remained preserved in its original form through the centuries despite the weakness that the Muslim nation underwent, the vanishing of the Muslim caliphate, and the dispute and difference amongst the Muslims. Despite all this, the Quran remained preserved and protected by Allah, which is one of its miracles.

The Bible: Many people refer to the Injeel (the book that was revealed to prophet 'Eesaa, may Allah exalt his mention) by the term "The Bible". But one can surely say, and without any doubt, that the Injeel has been altered and changed by human beings throughout history and the original copy no longer exists.

On the other hand, some people use the term "The Bible" to refer the book used by the Christians, and to those people we say the following:

In the Quran Allah informs us that He revealed a number of books, including the pages of Prophet Abraham (Ibraheem may Allah exalt his mention), the Psalms of Prophet David (Dawood may Allah exalt his mention), the Torah of Prophet Moses (Moosa may Allah exalt his mention), the Injeel (Gospel) of Prophet Jesus ('Eesa may Allah exalt his mention), and finally, the Quran of Prophet Muhammad, sallalaahu 'alayhi wa sallam. Of these revealed texts only the Quran remains intact in its original form. All of the others (as complete books) have been lost, their remains have survived only as fragments or tampered with in some way so as to make their authenticity doubtful.

Nowhere in the Quran is the Bible even mentioned, to say nothing of its being among the revealed texts of Allah, or as Christian claim "The Word of God." Further, we know from respected scholars that although some fragments of the Psalms, the Torah, and the Injeel (the teachings of Prophet 'Eesa may Allah exalt his mention) may be found in the Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments, the Bible cannot rightfully be called "The Word of God." Why is this so?

As one publisher (Tyndale House Publishers, Inc., Wheaton, Illinois) stated: 'The Bible may look like one book, but it is actually sixty-six books in one. Thirty-nine books make up what we call the Old Testament, and twenty-seven make up the New Testament. It is possible that more than forty writers were used by God to write all sixty-six books.' (Quoted from the "Holy Bible" – New Living Translation, Gift and Award Edition, l997, p. vii)

So if the Bible is neither narrated by God nor written by Him, and, as such, is not ‘the word of God,' then what is it? By any objective criteria, the Bible is a book containing a compilation of stories, legends, folk tales, folk lore, myths, sagas, narratives, poetry, fragments of scriptures (fragments from the Psalms, the Torah, and the Injeel as already mentioned), letters (esp. in New Testament), visions, dreams, accounts of events from doubtful sources (not eye witnesses), editors’ or scribes’ notes, as well as human errors.


For those who believe in it, it is a book that has historical, cultural, moral and ethical values, and a source of spiritual teaching and guidance. It is a book held in high esteem, primarily by Christians who see it as a divine book and the source of their religious beliefs. But, in the final analysis it is only a book with many limitations and imperfections which disqualify it from being called "The Word of God." Whoever makes such a claim then the burden of proof rests with him. On the contrary, the Glorious Quran is the Speech of Allah and, through the Angel Gabriel, was revealed to Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ); later compiled into a book more than 14 centuries ago it remains in its original form until today.

Common misunderstandings about the Bible: Some common misunderstandings about the Bible include the following:

* The Bible is one book, the Old Testament. The Bible contains sixty-six books (or more depending upon the denomination one belongs to).

* The Old Testament (OT) is the Torah followed by the Jews. The OT contains some fragments of the Torah which was lost and the Psalms, but the Talmud is the book followed by the Jews and is totally unrelated to the Bible.

* The New Testament (NT) is the Gospel of Prophet Jesus, or the Injeel. It is neither. It is made up of twenty-seven books, none of which was narrated or written by Prophet 'Eesaa although the NT may contain fragments of the Injeel (sayings and teachings of Prophet 'Eesaa). The Injeel as revealed through Prophet Jesus has been lost. The fragments which may be cited in the NT may not be authentic or in their proper context. So it is erroneous to equate the NT with the Injeel mentioned in the Quran.

* The Bible is a holy book, narrated, dictated by God and is infallible. While this is a claim, this misconception has already been addressed. Since the Bible is 'only' a book, there is no need to call it a forgery, a corrupted text, etc. The Quran is the only authentic "Word of God," His Speech, and Allah has promised to protect it from distortion of any kind until the Day of Judgment and He has kept His promise. Not one letter or syllable has been changed over the past 14 centuries.


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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by sureheaven(m): 10:49am On Mar 22, 2019
These guys won't stop deceiving themselves and misleading their gullible followers.

What has Islam gat to do with the bible.

The Jesus Christ in the bible is totally different from the fabricated one in Quran.

Jesus Christ and Christianity had been in existence more than 500 years before the birth of the devil incarnated being called Muhammed. cool

How come Islam and Moslems are claiming they know the real Jesus than Christians.

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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by ollah2: 10:59am On Mar 22, 2019
marviessss:
I dont know why this moslems are just ranting ,you better accept Christ b4 it's too late
Allah is just a god
When you call something a God
He shud be supreme ,and also be able to pray to him in any position and any time and any language
But Allah can only be prayed to in Arabic
Same thing for Ogun ( a yoruba god ) you can only pray to him in yoruba ,you cant pray to him in igbo language same thing for all those idols
I think Mohammed just wanted to promote Arabic language
Even when moslems are praying ,they always have to face a point (maybe north am not sure) wait is your own god facing one side
Answer these questions and I will also join Islam


Why do you guys rant and cry when muslims create their thread and it hits front page on fridays?
Why are you guys so intolerant and full of hate and hypocrisy?
Do you see muslims hit your threads on sundays to criticize your religion or call you names?
Do muslims ask you why jesus only prayed in one language?
Do muslims tell you to renounce your religion and accept theirs?
Why then do you have to always appear on their threads to show your hate, bigotry, intolerance and hypocrisy?
Do you ask the Jews why they place their palm on the wall while praying?

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Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by ollah2: 11:00am On Mar 22, 2019
sureheaven:
These guys won't stop deceiving themselves and misleading their gullible followers.

What has Islam gat to do with the bible.

The Jesus Christ in the bible is totally different from the fabricated one in Quran.

Jesus Christ and Christianity had been in existence more than 500 years before the birth of the devil incarnated being called Muhammed. cool

How come Islam and Moslems are claiming they know the real Jesus than Christians.

How is Muhammed a devil incarnate?
Re: The Known Existing Books Of Allah- II by ollah2: 11:03am On Mar 22, 2019
apelike1:
comparing your demonic book with the Bible angry

Give your life to Christ Jesus before it is too late! That Quran is a book inspired by demons through your so call prophet Muhammad who die a miserable life.

Just this Friday you people have started talking rubbish undecided is Fridays your days of madness?

How the Quran a demonic book and the bible isnt?

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