jiggaz:
My dear, every believer in Christ can speak in tongues because you already have the holy spirit living inside you. It is now left for you to activate it by opening your mouth. Open your mouth and speak. Start with a few syllables, with time the holy spirit will give you more utterance. That was how i started my own. At the beginning, i felt weird speaking in tongues because i felt i didn't have the gift. But when i later realised my true identity in Christ and His finished work on the cross, i started speaking. Now i am fluent... It is not me, but the holy spirit speaking through me. These days i mostly pray in tongues and it's more refreshing and relaxing...

Try it my dear and the holy spirit will speak through you. All glory to our Lord Jesus.

But do you normally understand/interpret what you say when speaking in tongues?

pchukwudi:
Your entire 5 questions are answered by just one verse of Scripture: Rom. 8:26

I am yet to know why people like you always shy, dodge, duck and dive away from answering innocent and harmless questions like those easy peasy lemon squeasy 5 simple questions

pchukwudi:
Thing, is the language you rant about is the invention of humans for inter-personal communication.

Will you please mind your language, because no one, as far as I know, is ranting here, OK?

pchukwudi:
But if you know anything about the human makeup (especially the mind) you'd know that countless impulses that are processed by your brains cannot be articulated in words or human language.

What am I even saying, the fact that you got stuck in the limitations of human language does not mean that clearly articulated speech is the only form of language.

Nwanne pchukwudi, I don't know about any of your experiences, but let's just put it this way, and must say, I wouldn't wish it on my enemy to be caught in dire straits like that

So, there are two occasions in my life, when I was in dire straits and a right pickle, where whilst in these unpalatable situations, I prayed to God, the prayers got to a point, that I couldn't articulate or put in actual human being language words anymore what I was praying about, that I just slided and resorted to groaning and sighing.

The groans and sighs, came from the innermost deep fibre of my being. It felt like, I was at the end of my tethers, and actually had no more strength to pray, that I just have to resort to sighing at the situation and made groans, literally crying for the help and mercy of God. Recollecting now, is giving me goose pimples. So trust me, I have lived Romans. 8:26. Jesus too, in two or three occassions, went through this experience

"But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit,"
- Jude 1:28

Apart from Jude 1:28 reproduced above, verses, like John 3:8 and John 4:24 promptly flashed through my mind when about to respond to you concerning the Romans 8:26 you referenced

You've grossly misunderstood Romans 8:26 nwanne. The Spirit is free, it is like a wind, we dont see it, we cant touch it but we can sense it, we can hear it. It moves, one minute it is quiet and still, next minute, it can be howling and noisily slammimg doors shut another minute too.

God, is a Spirit, we, as spirit beings try to connect with God, so we pray in the spirit, to associate ourselves with what is happening or is about to happen in the Spirit realm, link with what is hapening in the Spirit's world, as in, God's great/​grand scheme of things. So when we pray in the spirit, we literally are positioning our "satellite dish or antenna" for good and maximum signal strength to get sharp pictures and/or clear broadcast signals from God, as we pray in tune or in accordance with His "Thy will be done" and not our will

Without tuning in, (i.e. without praying in the spirit) distortions, bad reception, ugly feedbacks, clashing stations etcetera will be the end product, and we end up praying out of tune. Now, here is how Jude 1:20 comes into the fray. Jude 1:20 has nothing to do speaking in tongues but means what it says out of the tin. It means to literally, pray in the Holy Spirit, as in, like, to pray in line with the Spirit, similar to that ''thy will be done and not my will" Jesus' prayer and not to be praying in some uninteligible and inarticulate language

Nwanne pchukwudi, jiggaz and Chi59, do you know what a ''thy will be done and not my will" Jesus' prayer is?

pchukwudi:
Finally:
"1 Corinthians 14:2 - KJV
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God:
for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

New International Version
For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God.
Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit."

"After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;"
- Revelation 7:9

"⁹Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
¹⁰That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
¹¹And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
- Philippians 2:9-11

Nwanne, pchukwudi, my dearest beloved brother, this thing is very cool, simple, straight up and uncomplicated, only that you, jiggaz and Chi59 dont want to adjust your "proper & holistic understanding meter" on this matter of gift of tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:2 is easily understood and needing no explanation because of the greek word "glossa" used in it, which funnily enough, means word, and it is how we have the word, glossary, so pchukwudi, obviously, "glossa" simply means human beings word(s). So tongue(s) in essence means human being language(s). As you can see from Revelation 7:9 and Philippians 2:9-11 above, tongues is closely associated and/or suggestive of being related with human beings and not celestial beings or a heavenly language

So, now going straight on to one of my favourite scripture, which is the 1 Corinthians 14:2 you quoted and brought up, the tongue Paul was talking about in this same 1 Corinthians 14:2, is the language or tongue of human beings. He is talking about the tongue and/or language associated with human beings. This means, the language or tongue Paul was talking about in 1 Corinthians 14:2 is, one in reference to a human being's style or manner of speaking.

Tongue, an organ of speech, is a member of the body of a human being's anatomy, not celestial beings. It also is the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other people, so again my dear nwanne, that is the kind of language or tongue, what Paul was talking about in 1 Corinthians 14:2

Think about it nwanne, pchukwudi, if I speak in a tongue no one understands, then except God and/or the absence of interpretation, no one will understand me. Even if I do it in private, and then my spirit prays, but my mind has no understanding and clue of what I've said or prayed about.

Tongue, an organ of speech, is a member of the body of a human being, not celestial beings and also is the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other people, so again my dear brother pchukwudi, that is the kind of language or tongue, what Paul was talking about in 1 Corinthians 14:2

Think about it pchukwudi, if I speak in a tongue, no one understands, then in the absence of interpretation, no one will understand me. Even if I do it in private prayers, then my spirit prays, but my intellect and mind has no understanding and clue of what I've said.

Another important thing about 1 Corinthians 14:2, is that, "unknown" was never in the original Greek verse. It is a latter addition by translators.

pchukwudi:
Got it?

Nwanne pchukwudi, jiggaz and Chi59, you are in a gathering comprising of like minded people with Igbo, Yoruba, Fulani, Hausa, Edo etcetera language speaking backgrounds, who dont speak nor understand each other's languages (i.e. each others Igbo, Yoruba, Fulani, Hausa, Edo language is unknown to the other), the only common language each undersands is English, now when it is time to pray, teach or preach, which language in the absence of interpretation, will you speak, pray, teach or preach in?
What language please?

1 Corinthians 14:2, is telling you that, in the above setting I've mentioned, if you speak languages that others don't know, God will understand what you are saying, though no one else will know what you mean. You will be talking about mysteries that only the Spirit understands. The others will just be guessing all you said

Also why do you want or need to speak to God in a language you do not understand what your mind is saying, I ask again, huh?

Have you, got it? Epiphany yet?

Philinho:
When you pray in tongue you password your prayer request...No devil can understand

. I disagree, when you have faith, no devil can stop your prayer(s) from reaching God. It's not by shouting speaking tongues, but by faith.

Dude, you are actually very funny.

So, what gave you the impression that the Corinthian Church (a few group of people meeting at homes) would have a need to speak in a language that everyone present do not understand?

Oh, I get it, you are probably from one of those churches that use interpreters, and you grew up thinking that your local dialect is the tongue Paul was talking about in 1Cor. 14 : 2.

Well dude, sorry to blast your bubble. But, as you narrated, if you had truly experienced the spirit enabled groaning communication that no one could comprehend (not even your own mind), then know that millions of people from around the world, are DAILY experiencing the awesomeness of speaking in (yes) UNKNOWN tongues by the utterance and residue of the anointing that the Holy Ghost supplies.

By the way, there is such a thing as tongues of angels (see one of my comments on this thread ). And it is really laughable how you chose to ignore the word "mysteries in the spirit" and "speaks to God" in your funny mental gymnastics.

Dude, Paul says that (in personal privacy) he "pray in tongues more than you all" yet, he'd not utter it in a public service unless there's interpretation, so that everyone in the Church would be edified. And so you know, doubting Thomas, there are a lot of ministries where both spiritual tongues and interpretation are given in public services TODAY.

But even at that, Paul says to "test all spirits".

MuttleyLaff:
I am yet to know why people like you always shy, dodge, duck and dive away from answering innocent and harmless questions like those easy peasy lemon squeasy 5 simple questions

Will you please mind your language, because no one, as far as I know, is ranting here, OK?

Nwanne pchukwudi, I don't know about any of your experiences, but let's just put it this way, and must say, I wouldn't wish it on my enemy to be caught in dire straits like that

So, there are two occasions in my life, when I was in dire straits and a right pickle, where whilst in these unpalatable situations, I prayed to God, the prayers got to a point, that I couldn't articulate or put in actual human being language words anymore what I was praying about, that I just slided and resorted to groaning and sighing.

The groans and sighs, came from the innermost deep fibre of my being. It felt like, I was at the end of my tethers, and actually had no more strength to pray, that I just have to resort to sighing at the situation and made groans, literally crying for the help and mercy of God. Recollecting now, is giving me goose pimples. So trust me, I have lived Romans. 8:26. Jesus too, in two or three occassions, went through this experience

"But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit,"
- Jude 1:28

Apart from Jude 1:28 reproduced above, verses, like John 3:8 and John 4:24 promptly flashed through my mind when about to respond to you concerning the Romans 8:26 you referenced

You've grossly misunderstood Romans 8:26 nwanne. The Spirit is free, it is like a wind, we dont see it, we cant touch it but we can sense it, we can hear it. It moves, one minute it is quiet and still, next minute, it can be howling and noisily slammimg doors shut another minute too.

God, is a Spirit, we, as spirit beings try to connect with God, so we pray in the spirit, to associate ourselves with what is happening or is about to happen in the Spirit realm, link with what is hapening in the Spirit's world, as in, God's great/​grand scheme of things. So when we pray in the spirit, we literally are positioning our "satellite dish or antenna" for good and maximum signal strength to get sharp pictures and/or clear broadcast signals from God, as we pray in tune or in accordance with His "Thy will be done" and not our will

Without tuning in, (i.e. without praying in the spirit) distortions, bad reception, ugly feedbacks, clashing stations etcetera will be the end product, and we end up praying out of tune. Now, here is how Jude 1:20 comes into the fray. Jude 1:20 has nothing to do speaking in tongues but means what it says out of the tin. It means to literally, pray in the Holy Spirit, as in, like, to pray in line with the Spirit, similar to that ''thy will be done and not my will" Jesus' prayer and not to be praying in some uninteligible and inarticulate language

Nwanne pchukwudi, jiggaz and Chi59, do you know what a ''thy will be done and not my will" Jesus' prayer is?

"After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;"
- Revelation 7:9

"⁹Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
¹⁰That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
¹¹And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
- Philippians 2:9-11

Nwanne, pchukwudi, my dearest beloved brother, this thing is very cool, simple, straight up and uncomplicated, only that you, jiggaz and Chi59 dont want to adjust your "proper & holistic understanding meter" on this matter of gift of tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:2 is easily understood and needing no explanation because of the greek word "glossa" used in it, which funnily enough, means word, and it is how we have the word, glossary, so pchukwudi, obviously, "glossa" simply means human beings word(s). So tongue(s) in essence means human being language(s). As you can see from Revelation 7:9 and Philippians 2:9-11 above, tongues is closely associated and/or suggestive of being related with human beings and not celestial beings or a heavenly language

So, now going straight on to one of my favourite scripture, which is the 1 Corinthians 14:2 you quoted and brought up, the tongue Paul was talking about in this same 1 Corinthians 14:2, is the language or tongue of human beings. He is talking about the tongue and/or language associated with human beings. This means, the language or tongue Paul was talking about in 1 Corinthians 14:2 is, one in reference to a human being's style or manner of speaking.

Tongue, an organ of speech, is a member of the body of a human being's anatomy, not celestial beings. It also is the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other people, so again my dear nwanne, that is the kind of language or tongue, what Paul was talking about in 1 Corinthians 14:2

Think about it nwanne, pchukwudi, if I speak in a tongue no one understands, then except God and/or the absence of interpretation, no one will understand me. Even if I do it in private, and then my spirit prays, but my mind has no understanding and clue of what I've said or prayed about.

Tongue, an organ of speech, is a member of the body of a human being, not celestial beings and also is the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other people, so again my dear brother pchukwudi, that is the kind of language or tongue, what Paul was talking about in 1 Corinthians 14:2

Think about it pchukwudi, if I speak in a tongue, no one understands, then in the absence of interpretation, no one will understand me. Even if I do it in private prayers, then my spirit prays, but my intellect and mind has no understanding and clue of what I've said.

Another important thing about 1 Corinthians 14:2, is that, "unknown" was never in the original Greek verse. It is a latter addition by translators.

Nwanne pchukwudi, jiggaz and Chi59, you are in a gathering comprising of like minded people with Igbo, Yoruba, Fulani, Hausa, Edo etcetera language speaking backgrounds, who dont speak nor understand each other's languages (i.e. each others Igbo, Yoruba, Fulani, Hausa, Edo language is unknown to the other), the only common language each undersands is English, now when it is time to pray, teach or preach, which language in the absence of interpretation, will you speak, pray, teach or preach in?
What language please?

1 Corinthians 14:2, is telling you that, in the above setting I've mentioned, if you speak languages that others don't know, God will understand what you are saying, though no one else will know what you mean. You will be talking about mysteries that only the Spirit understands. The others will just be guessing all you said

Also why do you want or need to speak to God in a language you do not understand what your mind is saying, I ask again, huh?

Have you, got it? Epiphany yet?

"....Forbid not to speak in tongues."
1corinth14:39

I have had experiences that convincingly taught me that unknown tongues are real and affordable only in the spirit.


Please, seek to receive the Holy Spirit as that's the only way to receive this basic gift of the Spirit.
Yes, you can't say you have the Spirit and can't speak the language of the Spirit.

Remember, at the upper room, everyone that received spoke in unknown tongues. Act2:4

But then, the Spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. You can choose to OR not to Speak in tongues as Paul asserts in 1Corinth15: 18-19 only if given the utterance.

But the point of edification or building up is true. Tongues do edify. Spiritual songs as well edify psalms also edify. Ephesians 5:19
Speaking in tongues is special for this reason : It is the spirit that gives these utterances and not necessarily because one is speaking unknown tongues. Meaning
If I combine the French, Swahili, English and Mandarin languages I had learned to pray out of my own will, that doesn't make it a language of the Spirit.


The Spirit can as well give songs and words of praise, revelations and supplications as Psalms.
It is this utterance that builds and he that is faithful in little utterance much utterance is given and he is built up the more. The faithfulness here is speaking what was given to be spoken.

Edification is literally building up by knowledge. Knowledge of the truth is what brings freedom. When the truth is brought to the fore by dint of the spoken tongue, it brings freedom. Yes, by knowledge solutions are conceived and applied.

The Spirit as well helps us pray when we know not to pray.This happens when we yield to him by opening our mouth to utter out his utterances for with the mouth alone can one confess unto salvation Romans 10:10
Speaking is giving the spirit the proxy to pray for us.

Meaning the Spirit still needs your mouth to pray even without knowledge of what is being uttered.

For instance, one could communicate an order he received even though he doesn't understands it to an executioner who understands it and the job gets done. Hence the spirit gives utterance, God who executes understands even when the middle man had no idea.

Now, without the understanding, the middle man is still useful hence value and power is accorded to him. That is how he remains alive in the spirit.

More so, when he understands, that knowledge is added to the benefits he gets. That's what gives him more life.
So even when not understood, speaking in tongues gives power to the man with the mouth.
When understood, more power is derived from the knowledge he gets.
Others who hear him interpret those utterances only benefit from the power of knowledge. He benefits more for usefulness and knowledge

'He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifies himself but he that prophesieth(tongues +interpretation) edifieth the church '

1corinthians 14:4


Only to they that believe. God bless us!

Shedrack777:
. I disagree, when you have faith, no devil can stop your prayer(s) from reaching God. It's not by shouting speaking tongues, but by faith.

True
But you can't have faith for what you do not know how to pray for. Praying in the spirit takes care of faith and wisdom as faith is a prerequisite to please God (the Holy Spirit) into helping you pray.

So while the devil may not stop your faith backed prayers, he could hinder your answers for lack of prayers. Through hindering the knowledge of what to pray and have faith for.

Debunking all lies on this thread.

1 Corinthians 14:2 "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh NOT unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him;howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries "

The way of God is mysterious.

You cannot go to France and be speaking French, that's not what the above scripture is saying.


You don't need to understand what you are speaking.


You are not speaking to people around you.

You are directly speaking to God.

What you are saying can never be understood.

If you speak in tongues you are edifying yourself .

Speaking in tongues is divine.


Please as a Christian, never stop speaking tongues, it may the saving grace out of imminent danger that you are not aware of.

God bless you. God2man.

pchukwudi:
Dude, you are actually very funny.

Nwanne, you are funnier than I am.

pchukwudi:
So, what gave you the impression that the Corinthian Church (a few group of people meeting at homes) would have a need to speak in a language that everyone present do not understand?

I am quite sure you know that Corinth was a cosmopolitan city, including people from many different parts of the world, right?

pchukwudi:
Oh, I get it, you are probably from one of those churches that use interpreters, and you grew up thinking that your local dialect is the tongue Paul was talking about in 1 Cor. 14:2

Nwanne, pchukwudi, my dearest beloved brother, re-adjust your "proper & holistic understanding meter" on this gift of tongues matter. The whole thing is very cool, simple, straight up and uncomplicated.

Reiterating nwanne, 1 Corinthians 14:2 is easily understood and needing no explanation because of the greek word "glossa" used in it, which funnily enough, means word, and it is how we have the word, glossary, so pchukwudi, obviously, "glossa" simply means human beings word(s). So tongue(s) in essence means human being language(s). As you can see from Revelation 7:9 and Philippians 2:9-11 above, tongues is closely associated and/or suggestive of being related with human beings and not celestial beings or a heavenly language

Also another most important thing, which I am sure you are aware off, is that Paul downplayed the importance of speaking in tongues. He, Paul, on record, even said, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter, but this advice and guideline, is religiously, regularly, flagrantly and openly disregarded during gathering worships and/or prayer sessions by people like your lot.

pchukwudi:
Well dude, sorry to blast your bubble. But, as you narrated, if you had truly experienced the spirit enabled groaning communication that no one could comprehend (not even your own mind), then know that millions of people from around the world, are DAILY experiencing the awesomeness of speaking in (yes) UNKNOWN tongues by the utterance and residue of the anointing that the Holy Ghost supplies.

The telltale signs that someone has completely lost the plot, is when they repeatedly start calling you dude. LOL.

Please dont do this nwanne, stop right there already, stop conflating speaking in tongues with groaning. The two, speaking in tongues and groaning, are chalk and cheese, they are not the same thing

pchukwudi:
By the way, there is such a thing as tongues of angels (see one of my comments on this thread ). And it is really laughable how you chose to ignore the word "mysteries in the spirit" and "speaks to God" in your funny mental gymnastics.

"¹If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become a sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
²And if I should have prophecy and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
³And if I may give away all my possessions, and I may deliver up my body that I may boast,a but have not love, I am profited nothing.
⁴Love is patient, love is kind, love is not envious, it is not boastful, it is not puffed up."
- 1 Corinthians 13:1-4

Nwanne, just like other scriptures like Jude 1:28, Romans 8:26 etcetera, you again, dont understand 1 Corinthians 13:1 at all. It is a shame, that you are a worker who inaccurately handles the word of truth. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Somebody like you, is accustomed to picking up low hanging fruits, because if not, you would have seen that 1 Corinthians 13:1 from the whole of 1 Corinthians 13:1-4 had nothing to do with speaking in tongue, but rather it is about a higher hanging fruit, the God love.

Now look at 1 Corinthians 13:1-4 carefully, closely and properly because if you do, you should notice the "if"s in verses 1, 2 and 3. The three "if"s combined with what are called subjunctive verbs, are made as third-class conditional statements. Before I lose you, subjunctive verbs, expresses something that you wish for, or be a hypothetical rather than actual situation. So, meaning, 1 Corinthians 13:1-3, are hyberboles, as in, hypothetical situations, of saying "what if, say, I were able to speak with the tongues of men and angels" done in this exaggerated manner, just to drive home the paramount necessity of the God love in the midst of gifts and grace. So nwanne pchukwudi, sorry to be the one bursting your bubble. 1 Corinthians 13:1-13, is never about tongues of angels and the want to build a doctrine of gift of speaking in tongues around. Sorry.

pchukwudi:
Dude, Paul says that (in personal privacy) he "pray in tongues more than you all" yet,

With all due respect, nwanne pchukwudi, please reproduce here, where Paul says that (in personal privacy) he "pray in tongues more than you all" or else, you either retract or edit your inaccurate comment

pchukwudi:
he'd not utter it in a public service unless there's interpretation, so that everyone in the Church would be edified. And so you know, doubting Thomas, there are a lot of ministries where both spiritual tongues and interpretation are given in public services TODAY.

Paul downplays the importance of speaking in tongues? Paul, as a matter of fact and truth, on record, even said, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter but this advice and guideline, is religiously, regularly, openly and flagrantly disregarded during gathering worships and/or prayer sessions.

There is a popular saying in the western part of Nigeria, that goes like this: "Bi o ba nidi, obinrin kii nje Kumolu" translated loosely means "There is no smoke without fire, there's a reason for and/or behind naming a girl Kumolu"

There was a reason for the believers, on pentecost, to miracuously speak in tongues and it is the same repeated reason, for the only two other miraculous ocassions of recorded speaking in tongues in the bible. For all the 3 recorded times, speaking in other tongues, occurred in the bible, it is visibly noted that, it happened each time, for the benefit of unbelieving Jews.

The genuine speaking in tongue, is so infrequent now because it's original and primary purpose was for the benefit of the unbelieving lost sheep of Israel, the reference for this, can be found at Acts 2:5. With the gift of genuine speaking in tongue passed on, it's purpose fundamentally, is still for convincing unbelief or scepticism.

pchukwudi:
But even at that, Paul says to "test all spirits"

Here is a test for you to do
Remember, Paul, in 1 Corinthians 12:29, asked:
"Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? "
Guess what. The answer on each account is No, no, no and no.

Moving along, then at 1 Corinthians 12:31, Paul says:
"but pchukwudi/jiggaz/Chi59 covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way."
and it was after that comment in 1 Corinthians 12:31, that Paul introduced and brought in 1 Corinthians 13:1 emphasising love

Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:29 onwards, confirmed that not "all fingers are equal" and 1 Corinthians 12:29's "Do all speak in tongues?" is a strong indication, that, to speak in tongues, is not a requirement for all believers. So pchukwudi/jiggaz/Chi59, to be honest with you, if you have love, you wouldnt neccesarily need the gift of speaking in tongues and that is because love surpasses and conquers all.

pchukwudi/jiggaz/Chi59, you lot and I, know many so called self styled tongues speaking believers and/or christians, who do not have the God love, yet regularly during prayer sessions, all are called upon and propelled by pastors/worship leaders to start "speaking in tongues" and pray in tongues. You then remember 1 Corinthians 14:27–28, and begin wondering, do the pastors/worship leaders telling people to start "speaking in tongues" and pray in tongues have cognisance of scriptures like that of 1 Corinthians 14:27–28?

I can go on, as I have many more things to say, but will pause at this juncture, if not, will risk it all become an information overload. Any questions asked to clarify or shed more light will be welcomed
cc IEJames, God2man2again

God2man2again:
Debunking all lies on this thread.

1 Corinthians 14:2 "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh NOT unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him;howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries "

The way of God is mysterious.

You cannot go to France and be speaking French, that's not what the above scripture is saying.

You don't need to understand what you are speaking.

You are not speaking to people around you.

You are directly speaking to God.

What you are saying can never be understood.

If you speak in tongues you are edifying yourself.

I am going to ask you a simple and uncomplicated question
1/ The first recorded speaking in tongues, whom were the 120 speaking to, was it to God or to men?

God2man2again:
Speaking in tongues is divine.

Please as a Christian, never stop speaking tongues, it may the saving grace out of imminent danger that you are not aware of.

God bless you. God2man.

You have read the post I cc'ed you in. Please stop being a false teacher and misleading people with your ill-informed comments

@mutteylaff. I went through your profile, I found only two topics From 2015 till date and more than 5000 post.

I have been on this forum since 2011. I am not new to this.

I got you. Your explanation that Paul downplayed speaking in tongue.

The first recorded speaking in tongues was not directly stated that they were speaking to God or men.

I hate argument.

When we are interpreting scripture we must separate speculations and sentiments from statement of fact.


Your findings on speaking tongue is based on Paul the Apostle.

The same Paul the Apostle made a statement of facts and direct statement not speculations in 1 Corinthians 14:2.

So if you now decided to go against this statement of fact then there is nothing I can do.

Have a nice day. May God be with us.

God2man2again:
@mutteylaff.

It is MuttleyLaff and not mutteylaff

God2man2again:
I went through your profile, I found only two topics From 2015 till date and more than 5000 post

Did you not hear that curiosity killed the cat, huh?

God2man2again:
I have been on this forum since 2011. I am not new to this.

Guess what, you're new then compared to me because I've been longer on this forum than you are

We were here when Nairaland started, we moved here in throngs after the then now defunct UK based naija forum folded up. Did you not read where I said, this is an overflogged discussion here on Nairaland, huh? I've been there, been here, sold it, done it and even have the "speaking in tongue" souvenir t-shirt I bought, so how I know all I am saying. I can say a bit and more about the subject of tongues and the gift of tongues to you. I even remember when you first joined the forum with the moniker just, God2man

God2man2again:
I got you. Your explanation that Paul downplayed speaking in tongue.

I am pleased you see the truth in that

God2man2again:
The first recorded speaking in tongues was not directly stated that they were speaking to God or men.

For Jews demand miraculous signs (i.e. ask for signs)
and Greeks ask for wisdom (i.e. philiosophy)
- 1 Corinthians 1:22

So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers.
Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers.
- 1 Corinthians 14:22

Oh c'mon now God2man2again, you're too big a heavyweight to try spin a yarn like that.

God2man2again/pchukwudi/jiggaz/Chi59, the primary purpose for speaking in tongues, was/is not, for use as a talisman, neither to be used, as quicker or easier mystical shortcuts to prayers or worship. Nor is it's purpose, to be used as, a form of means to confuse the devil or demons from understanding whats been prayed

For all the 3 recorded times, speaking in other tongues, occurred in the bible, it is visibly noted that, it happened each time, for the benefit of unbelieving Jews

For any that might have been misinformed, it is a well documented truth, as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:22 above that speaking in tongues is not for believers, rather it is used as a sign for unbelievers (i.e. 1 Corinthians 1:22a)

To speak in tongues, means audibly saying something out or make sounds with your voice to express your thoughts and feelings in a structured, conventional, intelligible and understandable way

Speak in tongues is language, as in, tongues =human language and has the same meaning with mother tongue, native tongue, dialect, vernacular etcetera. For example, you can speak in vernacular, can speak in your local dialect, might speak in a native tongue or speak in your mother tongue

There is a time and a place for everything. Also there is always a reason for everything that happens or why it does not happen

Things do happen for a reason and what took place in Acts Chapter 2, happened importantly because of Acts 2:5. Please place Acts 2:5 close together with Matthew 10:5-6, Matthew 15:24, Romans 1:16, especially for a comparison or contrast effect

1 Corinthians 14:22 confirms that, what took place in Acts Chapter 2, was for the benefit of any unbelieving Jews at Acts 2:5. The Jews (i.e. all adult Jewish men) thousands of them from different nations dispersed to or from where they are scattered to, would travel to Jerusalem for this pilgrim festival called Feast of Weeks or Pentecost to celebrate the giving of the Law to Moses at Mount Sinai

What took place in Acts Chapter 2, was for the benefit of the lot in Acts 2:5 and nothing to do for and/or with the lot in John 10:16

Yes, absolutely, it was apart from being a sign, was for the benefit of the unbelieving lost tribe of Israel pilgrims to the festival, who incidentally were always at the top of Jesus' list of priorities

What took place in Acts 2, was the Apostles, were actually speaking in the individual languages or dialects of the visiting Jews and each of the pilgrim Jews present, without need of interpretation, heard and understood the preaching.

⁵But there were men dwelling in Jerusalem who were worshipers of God, Jews from every nation under Heaven.
⁶And when that noise occurred, the entire populace gathered and was agitated,
because each one of them heard that they were speaking in their dialects
⁷And they were all marveling and were amazed as they were saying, each to the other,
"Are not all these who are speaking Galileans?"*
⁸"How are we hearing, everyone, his own dialect in which we were born?"
- Acts 2:5-8

Notice the disciples were speaking recognisable spoken words, and the speech or manner of speaking was understandable. The dialects heard spoken of the day were:
1) those of the Parthians and Medes and Elanites,
2) people from Mesopotamia, Judea, Cappadocia, Pontus, the province of Asia,
3) people Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene,
and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes,
4) Cretans, and Arabs

The other two subsequent recorded ocassions of speaking in tongues, happened, again, for the benefits of unbelieving Jews too.

The geniune speaking in tongue, is so infrequent now because it's original and primary purpose was for the benefit of the unbelieving lost sheep of Israel at Acts 2:5 and elsewhere before the gift got passed down to the church

Now after all these above, how dare you have the effrontery to pretend and say, the first recorded speaking in tongues was not directly stated that they were speaking to God or men

God2man2again:
I hate argument.

If you really and truly hate arguments, then stop and desist from advancing opinions but next time try facts and truth for size, then we could have a discussion instead of you arguing with yourself

God2man2again:
When we are interpreting scripture we must separate speculations and sentiments from statement of fact.

You should take to this logical and strong advice

God2man2again:
Your findings on speaking tongue is based on Paul the Apostle.

On the contrary, every thing I've submitted on tongues and the gift of speaking in tongues are based on the Bible

God2man2again:
The same Paul the Apostle made a statement of facts and direct statement not speculations in 1 Corinthians 14:2

So if you now decided to go against this statement of fact then there is nothing I can do.

Nwanne, 1 Corinthians 14:2 is easily understood and needing no explanation because of the greek word "glossa" used in it, which funnily enough, means word, and it is how we have the word, glossary, so pchukwudi, obviously, "glossa" simply means human beings word(s). So tongue(s) in essence means human being language(s). As you can see from Revelation 7:9 and Philippians 2:9-11 above, tongues is closely associated and/or suggestive of being related with human beings and not celestial beings or a heavenly language

I am pleased you admit that Paul downplayed the importance of speaking in tongues. I know you're aware that, the same Paul, on record, even said, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter, but this advice and guideline, is religiously, regularly, flagrantly and openly disregarded during gathering worships and/or prayer sessions by people like your lot.

God2man2again:
Have a nice day. May God be with us.

May God have mercy on you and your soul, give you the grace to embrace truth nwanne.
cc IEJames, pchukwudi, jiggaz, Chi59, Goshen360

Elvis778:

pure lie, i don't know why some Christians decide to paint the main Christian belief with lies, now tell me, where is that verified in the bible??
The truth is, whether you speak in tongues or not, if you are worthy in God's sight, if you are clean enough to be granted a listening ear, if you are looked upon and granted mercy, the lord would always receive your prayers. Chikina

hmmm.B4 you argue ask yourself.Did the devil understand speaking in tongue ? If no then what i said is true

Jaynom:

God who is ALL KNOWING, who knows my Heart doesn't need passwords!

You guys like arguing spiritual things. The scripture dont value speaking in tongues for nothing. Not that your prayers cant be answered but you cant neglect speaking in tongue

Shedrack777:
. I disagree, when you have faith, no devil can stop your prayer(s) from reaching God. It's not by shouting speaking tongues, but by faith.

The bible that talk about speaking in tongues know why.

Philinho:
hmmm.B4 you argue ask yourself.Did the devil understand speaking in tongue ? If no then what i said is true

The devil understands every possible language, which is what tongues is, uttered by human beings. What the devil doesn't understand is a silent prayer you don't say out audibly or loud because the devil can't guess right nor read your mind or thoughts, so what you said is a big fat barefaced lie on steroids.

Philinho:

You guys like arguing spiritual things. The scripture dont value speaking in tongues for nothing. Not that your prayers cant be answered but you cant neglect speaking in tongue

Prophecy nko? Interpretation of tongues nko? Other spiritual gifts nko? You guys don't study Scriptures at all. Speaking in tongues is INFERIOR to LOVE yet Pentecostal Churches Treat Tongues like it is the all in all!

Jaynom:

Prophecy nko? Interpretation of tongues nko? Other spiritual gifts nko? You guys don't study Scriptures at all. Speaking in tongues is INFERIOR to LOVE yet Pentecostal Churches Treat Tongues like it is the all in all!

I did not say it is superior .Y are you sounding judgementally? You need spseaking in tongues in addition to all that you have.period

[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=76552312]The devil understands every possible language, which is what tongues is, uttered by human beings. What the devil doesn't understand is a silent prayer you don't say out audibly or loud because the devil can't guess right nor read your mind or thoughts, so what you said is a big fat barefaced lie on steroids.[/quote
Are you speaking from your own knowledge or scripture?..... 1Corinthians 12:2. For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men,but unto God:For no man understandeth him;howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
The devil dont understand tongue.
stop arguing what you dont know.
And pls back up your argument with scriptures .
thanks

Philinho:
Are you speaking from your own knowledge or scripture?..... 1Corinthians 12:2. For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God:For no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
The devil dont understand tongue.
stop arguing what you dont know.
And pls back up your argument with scriptures .
thanks

Unlike you, everything I've so far said and after say, is backed up scripture and knowledge imparted by the power of the Holy Spirit. Take for example, that 1 Corinthians 12:2 scripture verse and the meaning of tongue, that you have twisted and turn on its head. Are you pretending again and/or trying to say, I haven't done good enough with all the scriptures I have so far shared with my comments on this thread huh?

Philinho:
I did not say it is superior .Y are you sounding judgementally? You need spseaking in tongues in addition to all that you have.period

1/ Why do you need speaking in tongues?
2/ Is it a biblical must, to have the gift of speaking in tongues huh?

Philinho:

I did not say it is superior .Y are you sounding judgementally? You need spseaking in tongues in addition to all that you have.period

No sir! Study your Bible! The only spiritual gift that is needed is love. Love is necessary. If you like speak in tongues from morning to night if you don't have love in your heart and in your actions you are only deceiving yourself

jiggaz:
My dear, every believer in Christ can speak in tongues because you already have the holy spirit living inside you. It is now left for you to activate it by opening your mouth. Open your mouth and speak. Start with a few syllables, with time the holy spirit will give you more utterance. That was how i started my own. At the beginning, i felt weird speaking in tongues because i felt i didn't have the gift. But when i later realised my true identity in Christ and His finished work on the cross, i started speaking. Now i am fluent... It is not me, but the holy spirit speaking through me. These days i mostly pray in tongues and it's more refreshing and relaxing...

Try it my dear and the holy spirit will speak through you. All glory to our Lord Jesus.

ah God I pity Christian of this generation bible says if you speak in language you can't interpret or nobody can't interpret you should keep quiet or speak to yourself mean you should be silent don't allow anyone to hear then speak it between you and your God. now in the book of 1cornthians 12vs10 declare it there that speaking in tongues is a gift. now listen if you are speaking one kind of words like bra rama rombo raba rinsi today then tomorrow you say the same words does that mean that's only language you are saying every time ? I thought is communication between you and God. the truth is that out of 100%, 98% of it are fake and fraud. even some churches do teach their members how to speak what joke.

Philinho:

You guys like arguing spiritual things. The scripture dont value speaking in tongues for nothing. Not that your prayers cant be answered but you cant neglect speaking in tongue

can you show me where they value that speaking in tongue? in my own bible value love that any other practice according to book of 1Corinthians 13 vs 13. check your bible.

MuttleyLaff:
The devil understands every possible language, which is what tongues is, uttered by human beings. What the devil doesn't understand is a silent prayer you don't say out audibly or loud because the devil can't guess right nor read your mind or thoughts, so what you said is a big fat barefaced lie on steroids.

that's a lie sir!!!! I can tell you what you are saying within your mind when am in spirit, even when am far from you I can still ear you louder in my ear because is my gift all these are happening whenever am in the realm of prophecy. now listen sir when you pray devil don't need to hear you but he knows the route of the prayers, they will wage war against the route of the prayer. the strength of prayer is the faith behind it and force of prayer depend how powerful you are at the point of that prayer.

jcross19:
can you show me where they value that speaking in tongue? in my own bible value love that any other practice according to book of 1Corinthians 13 vs 13. check your bible.

Read Jude1;20....But ye beloved building up yourselves on your most holy faith,praying in the Holy Ghost.
If i may ask,what is paining you about praying in the tongue?
it is biblical also a spiritual gift.1Corithians 1:10

Jaynom:

No sir! Study your Bible! The only spiritual gift that is needed is love. Love is necessary. If you like speak in tongues from morning to night if you don't have love in your heart and in your actions you are only deceiving yourself

Understand me well.in addition to love,speaking in tongue is good.Jude 1:20........Praying in the holy ghost......And it is also a spiritual gift .1cor 12;10.
Pls study well about speaking in tongues..Act 2:4
PLS STUDY THE BIBLE

MuttleyLaff:
Unlike you, everything I've so far said and after say, is backed up scripture and knowledge imparted by the power of the Holy Spirit. Take for example, that 1 Corinthians 12:2 scripture verse and the meaning of tongue, that you have twisted and turn on its head. Are you pretending again and/or trying to say, I haven't done good enough with all the scriptures I have so far shared with my comments on this thread huh?

1/ Why do you need speaking in tongues?
2/ Is it a biblical must, to have the gift of speaking in tongues huh?

Please read this .Jude 1;20.......Act 2;4.1Corintbians 12;10
.Please dont just argue. read your bible.
Thanks

jcross19:
that's a lie sir!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvTVqWhssoM

What is a lie sir? Are you saying the devil doesnt understand every possible language, which is what tongues is, uttered by human beings, huh?. Are you trying to say the devil doesnt speak any language sir, huh? Is that it, sir, huh?
OK then, how many languages did you hear, that devil spoke there in the video clip you just watched above, huh? Dont answer the question, as I will help you along and tell you the answer(s)

The devil spoke in English language, when it said:"We are the ones who dwell within" & "and I am Lucifer, the devil in the flesh"
The devil spoke in Hebrew language, when it said: "I am the one who dwelt within CAIN!"
The devil spoke in Latin language, when it said: "I am the one who dwelt within NERO!"
The devil spoke in Greek language, when it said: "I once dwelt within JUDAS!"
The devil spoke in German Language, when it said:"I was with Legion."
The devil, in the same clip, spoke also in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic language, when it said: "I am Belial"

Now, I dont have to be the one to tell you that, the devil would have spoken in Aramaic language when he spoke directly to Jesus in the desert

jcross19:
I can tell you what you are saying within your mind when am in spirit...

"You know when I sit down and when I stand up; You understand my thoughts from far away."
- Psalm 139:2

"Immediately Jesus knew in his spirit that this was what they were thinking in their hearts, and he said to them, "Why are you thinking these things?"
- Mark 2:8

"And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, "Why are you thinking evil in your hearts?"
- Matthew 9:4

For you to make this comment, I can tell you are not just only an empty wagon making a lot of noise, but you are also a confirmed and shameless blasphemer. Nwanne jcross19, there is only one person, who knows our thoughts and knows what we are thinking in our hearts or mind. That, one and only person is God, not and never is you.

jcross19:
... even when am far from you I can still ear you louder in my ear because is my gift all these are happening whenever am in the realm of prophecy.

"⁷Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.
⁸To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit,
⁹to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit,
¹⁰to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.
¹¹All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines."
- 1 Corinthians 12:7-11

Where you learned that the gift of prophecy, that is for the common good, is for hearing louder in your ear and reading other people's mind is worrisome

jcross19:
now listen sir when you pray devil don't need to hear you but he knows the route of the prayers, they will wage war against the route of the prayer. the strength of prayer is the faith behind it and force of prayer depend how powerful you are at the point of that prayer.

You dont cease to amaze me, with how you somersault, butcher and misunderstanding biblical narrative(s) and going by what you've typed here, I seriously doubt, you understand the Prince of Persia and Prince of Greece biblical narrative properly at all

Philinho:
Please read this .Jude 1;20.......Act 2;4.1Corintbians 12;10.
Please dont just argue. Read your bible.
Thanks

If you had read and/or gone through each and every comment I've made on this thread, you would have noticed, I had already referenced and talked about Jude 1:20, Act 2:4, 1 Corinthians 12:10 and other extra more verses. I can provide you with signposted links of where I have, upon request.

Everything I have put forward is backed up with facts, truth and scriptures, but you and the rest, just want to argue because of your reliance on a crutch. You are dependent on the crutch, you need this stick fit under the arm, and to lean on for support because you have difficulty in the praying department, so you have to invent this fake gift of speaking in tongues, a reminiscence and variant of "Ọfọ̀ Asẹ" and/or "Ògèdè". This gift of speaking in tongues, is so cool, simple and straightforward but you guys have just to turn it on its head and into something else, and like I've earlier numerously said, turn it into glorified "ògèdè and/or ọfọ̀" and/or incantation recitations

MuttleyLaff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvTVqWhssoM

How many languages did you hear that devil speak there?
Dont answer, as I will help tell you
The devil spoke in English language when it said:"We are the ones who dwell within" & "and I am Lucifer, the devil in the flesh"
The devil spoke in Hebrew language, when it said: "I am the one who dwelt within CAIN!"
The devil spoke in Latin language, when it said: "I am the one who dwelt within NERO!"
The devil spoke in Greek language, when it said: "I once dwelt within JUDAS!"
The devil spoke in German Language, when it said "I was with Legion."
The devil spoke also in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic language "I am Belial"

Now, I dont have to be the one to tell you that, the devil would have spoken in Aramaic language when he spoke directly to Jesus in the desert

"You know when I sit down and when I stand up; You understand my thoughts from far away."
- Psalm 139:2

"Immediately Jesus knew in his spirit that this was what they were thinking in their hearts, and he said to them, "Why are you thinking these things?"
- Mark 2:8

"And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, "Why are you thinking evil in your hearts?"
- Matthew 9:4

For you to make this comment, I can tell you are not just only an empty wagon making a lot of noise, but you are also a confirmed and shameless blasphemer. Nwanne jcross19, there is only one person, who knows our thoughts and knows what we are thinking in our hearts or mind. That, one and only person is God, not and never is you.

"⁷Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.
⁸To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit,
⁹to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit,
¹⁰to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.
¹¹All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines."
- 1 Corinthians 12:7-11

Where you learned that the gift of prophecy, that is for the common good, is for hearing louder in your ear and reading other people's mind is worrisome

You dont cease to amaze me, with how you somersault, butcher and misunderstanding biblical narrative(s) and going by what you've typed here, I seriously doubt, you understand the Prince of Persia and Prince of Greece biblical narrative properly at all

If you had read and/or gone through each and every comment I've made on this thread, you would have noticed, I had already referenced and talked about Jude 1:20, Act 2:4, 1 Corintbians 12:10 and extra more. I can provide you with signposted links of where I have, upon request.

Everything I have put forward is backed up with facts, truth and scriptures, but you and the rest, just want to argue because of your reliance on a crutch. You are dependent on the crutch, you need this stick fit under the arm, and to lean on for support because you have difficulty in the praying department, so you have to invent this fake gift of speaking in tongues, a reminiscence and variant of "Ọfọ̀ Asẹ" and/or "Ògèdè". This gift of speaking in tongues, is so cool, simple and straightforward but you guys have just to turn it on its head and into something else, and like I've earlier numerously said, turn it into glorified "ògèdè and/or ọfọ̀" and/or incantation recitations

I laugh you, all these epistle you put up there prove how empty you are, I mean empty. now listen Philippians 4vs 13 says: I can do ALL things through him who strengthen me. you said is only God that can hear people's mind right if you truly believe that words then what's ,1john 4vs4 says,
you little children you are from God and have overcome them because who is in YOU is greater who is in the world. if Jesus who can hear your thought is in me why won't I be able to do same? go and sleep you quote bible without sense and holy spirit. you think typing vocabulary makes you wise? in fact you are empty barren even God can make you vanish go and check life story of ayo babalola of CAC then come back behave normal,how he used to speak with trees go and sit down.nonsense.

Philinho:

Read Jude1;20....But ye beloved building up yourselves on your most holy faith,praying in the Holy Ghost.
If i may ask,what is paining you about praying in the tongue?
it is biblical also a spiritual gift.1Corithians 1:10

speaking in tongue is not a criteria of born again or ticket to heaven is just gift of utterance like other gifts every one of us won't have the same gift.

Philinho:

hmmm.B4 you argue ask yourself.Did the devil understand speaking in tongue ? If no then what i said is true

can you show me where Bible says devil didn't understand speaking in tongue. became devil was an heavenly being because in the book job 1 verse1-18 where God and devil were talking in what language are they talking to each other. you better keep quiet . we remain too strong for devil because of the grace and power of God. devil that want to wage war against his creator?see if not that God is too powerful ,devil will over turn this world in second.

jcross19:
I laugh you, all these epistle you put up there prove how empty you are, I mean empty. now listen Philippians 4vs 13 says: I can do ALL things through him who strengthen me. you said is only God that can hear people's mind right if you truly believe that words then what's ,1 john 4vs4 says,
you little children you are from God and have overcome them because who is in YOU is greater who is in the world. if Jesus who can hear your thought is in me why won't I be able to the do same? go and sleep you quote bible without sense and holy spirit. you think typing vocabulary makes you wise? in fact you are empty barren even God can make you vanish

I literally laughed out loud because I remembered, it's me, who first, said and called you, an empty wagon making a lot of noise, and that you are also a confirmed and shameless blasphemer.

Also remember I said:
"Nwanne jcross19, there is only one person, who knows our thoughts and knows what we are thinking in our hearts or mind. That, one and only person is God, not and never is you."

Isnt it amazing that, truth is bitter in the beginning, and sweet in the end, and that lies, like yours, are sweet in the beginning, but bitter in the end. You have got educated a bit on this thread. For you, the root of the education is bitter but you dont seem and/or want to know, is that the fruit is sweet

jcross19:
go and check life story of ayo babalola of CAC then come back behave normal, how he used to speak with trees go and sit down.nonsense.

You already have 99 problems and you've just confirmed with this comment that low self esteem, inferiority complex and sense of insecurity are part of them

MuttleyLaff:
I literally laughed out loud because I remembered, it's me, who first, said and called you, an empty wagon making a lot of noise, and that you are also a confirmed and shameless blasphemer.

Also remember I said:
"Nwanne jcross19, there is only one person, who knows our thoughts and knows what we are thinking in our hearts or mind. That, one and only person is God, not and never is you."

Isnt it amazing that, truth is bitter in the beginning, and sweet in the end, and that lies, like yours, are sweet in the beginning, but bitter in the end. You have got educated a bit on this thread. For you, the root of the education is bitter but you dont seem and/or want to know, is that the fruit is sweet

You already have 99 problems and you've just confirmed with this comment that low self esteem, inferiority complex and sense of insecurity are part of them

I can see you have nothing to offer all you do is to post trash thinking you are making sense but you are not . I have given you a bible quotations to back my facts in accordance with your own quotation nailing your ignorance on the cross of shame .you lack bible knowledge.