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Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by fisher45: 6:57pm On Mar 28, 2019
I just got my second denial while applying for a student F-1 visa. I was served with the Form 214b and was told that I am not legally eligible to enter the USA in spite of the fact that I got a valid admission with a scholarship and I have enough funds till my proposed return date. I would not be applying again, at least for now.

I would like to suggest that if prospective students would constantly be denied without any specified reason other than an intuition that they might not return, schools in the USA should be advised not to grant admission to students from Nigeria. I was not even asked to justify if I would return or not before I was handed the form like the other students I met at the Abuja embassy. It is important for specifics to be given so as to ascertain the exact reason for the denial, otherwise the process might leave an impression of exploitation of prospective students.

This is not to undermine the process or the VOs but being told that one is not legally eligible when all the requirements are met makes one feel inadequate like some kind of criminal or fugitive. The Form 214b even clearly states that the process cannot be appealed. It somehow feels unfair especially considering the rigors of commuting to and from Abuja, hotel bills and the emotional investment after receiving admission and a merit based scholarship.

I am proudly Nigerian and I am not inadequate or legally ineligible.

God bless the reader.

Fisher Nwanne

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by temmyt20(m): 7:52pm On Mar 28, 2019
hmm.#lips sealed for now
Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by KingOfAllIgbos: 8:35pm On Mar 28, 2019
Just give up and try to make the best of this country.

Yes i know the IN thing is to run, but if these Westerners too ran, their countries wouldn't be as great as they are today.

Germany & Japan were already World Leaders before World War II. They were decimated, but they never gave up. They worked as one and they are currently world powers now.

People will say "they have a system that works" But the system wasn't given to them by God, they worked for it.

These denials would continue to increase. That's for sure.

PS - i wanted to go for a Masters at Johns Hopkins. Got a reject and i was like, "there are better ways to spend $63,000" The Masters i got at OAU cost me like $1400 in total (500k naira for the Executive program)

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by jesmond3945: 9:20pm On Mar 28, 2019
Did you show enough ties to Nigeria? The school that gave you scholarship is it well known?

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by rex444(m): 10:36pm On Mar 28, 2019
If you have such funds why don't you apply for schools in South Korea or other countries....USA is crap

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by fisher45: 11:07pm On Mar 28, 2019
KingOfAllIgbos:
Just give up and try to make the best of this country.

Yes i know the IN thing is to run, but if these Westerners too ran, their countries wouldn't be as great as they are today.

Germany & Japan were already World Leaders before World War II. They were decimated, but they never gave up. They worked as one and they are currently world powers now.

People will say "they have a system that works" But the system wasn't given to them by God, they worked for it.

These denials would continue to increase. That's for sure.

PS - i wanted to go for a Masters at Johns Hopkins. Got a reject and i was like, "there are better ways to spend $63,000" The Masters i got at OAU cost me like $1400 in total (500k naira for the Executive program)

Lolx, thanks for your suggestions but I wasn't trying to run. I only wanted a masters in another country. Even Americans go abroad to study
Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by fisher45: 11:14pm On Mar 28, 2019
jesmond3945:
Did you show enough ties to Nigeria? The school that gave you scholarship is it well known?

I wasn't asked anything pertaining ties. I only got the chance to explain why I had previous short travels, my intended institution which is renowned in Illinois, and how I intend to cover my expenses. The consular nodded in agreement all the while until she served me my second rejection... Not one prospective student I met there got the white letter.

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by fisher45: 11:16pm On Mar 28, 2019
rex444:
If you have such funds why don't you apply for schools in South Korea or other countries....USA is crap

That's the next agenda. USA is not heaven. It is only disheartening why there's so much disregard for Nigerian Students..

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by KingOfAllIgbos: 12:30am On Mar 29, 2019
fisher45:


Lolx, thanks for your suggestions but I wasn't trying to run. I only wanted a masters in another country. Even Americans go abroad to study

Great then. I understand the frustrations. Maybe try UK / Canada

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by Ohraykon: 1:03am On Mar 29, 2019
Can we just boycott them like we are doing to UK presently. Trump is the reason for dis no doubt!

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by rex444(m): 4:05am On Mar 29, 2019
fisher45:


That's the next agenda. USA is not heaven. It is only disheartening why there's so much disregard for Nigerian Students..
that's one thing that beats my imagination. Never liked that shit hole even it's far better than Nigeria tho if our people had managed this blessed country well, who be all those countries for where we dey?

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by kopfschmerzen: 4:50am On Mar 29, 2019
Ohraykon:
Can we just boycott them like we are doing to UK presently. Trump is the reason for dis no doubt!

Lols I'm third generation Nigerian immigrant here and this is so truth. My problem is that some of y'all still support that piece of shit when it's obvious he hate y'all.

Look up this thread to see the idiots i deal with daily on a Nigerian forum, funny enough most of them wanna migrate to murica.

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread/196

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by jesmond3945: 7:10am On Mar 29, 2019
fisher45:


I wasn't asked anything pertaining ties. I only got the chance to explain why I had previous short travels, my intended institution which is renowned in Illinois, and how I intend to cover my expenses. The consular nodded in agreement all the while until she served me my second rejection... Not one prospective student I met there got the white letter.
you see these people check your docs even before you come for interview. It is always good to "over" submit docs to prove beyond reasonable doubt. The Nigerians in US are the cause of these problems. They overstay their visas thats why it is becoming difficult. Also did you appear formal when you went for the interview? How were you able to answer the questions? Have you written exams like Gmat and toefl with high scores?

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by davidflipcy5856(m): 7:21am On Mar 29, 2019
jesmond3945:
you see these people check your docs even before you come for interview. It is always good to "over" submit docs to prove beyond reasonable doubt. The Nigerians in US are the cause of these problems. They overstay their visas thats why it is becoming difficult. Also did you appear formal when you went for the interview? How were you able to answer the questions? Have you written exams like Gmat and toefl with high scores?
If he didn't write these exams how will he get a scholarship?

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by lereinter(m): 8:49am On Mar 29, 2019
KingOfAllIgbos:
Just give up and try to make the best of this country.

Yes i know the IN thing is to run, but if these Westerners too ran, their countries wouldn't be as great as they are today.

Germany & Japan were already World Leaders before World War II. They were decimated, but they never gave up. They worked as one and they are currently world powers now.

People will say "they have a system that works" But the system wasn't given to them by God, they worked for it.

These denials would continue to increase. That's for sure.

PS - i wanted to go for a Masters at Johns Hopkins. Got a reject and i was like, "there are better ways to spend $63,000" The Masters i got at OAU cost me like $1400 in total (500k naira for the Executive program)

Make the best of which country

does this area look like a country

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by charlicool: 9:08am On Mar 29, 2019
Anyway I ve my appointment on 14th May, v faith it will go well. Now this is my first and will be my last as I am going for visa application based on leadership training, I heard so many peoples failures but I am not disturb by it as I believe mine will sail through, I believed there are people that just applied once and got it so will mine be

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by jesmond3945: 10:09am On Mar 29, 2019
davidflipcy5856:

If he didn't write these exams how will he get a scholarship?
let him answer not you.
Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by encryptjay(m): 10:25am On Mar 29, 2019
Jah knows if I have funds or I want to apply for scholarship outside the country, the US won't make my top 10 countries.

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by throwaway: 1:07pm On Mar 29, 2019
Nigerian students are in this position partly because of the people who have gone before them (non-students mostly).
You could explore south-east asia like Korea(KAIST), Singapore(NUS), Hong Kong(HKUST). Most of these schools have generous scholarships.

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by strangest(m): 1:41pm On Mar 29, 2019
Trump effect... Wait for trump to leave office.... Its not just yøu, sorry

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by debetmx(m): 5:17pm On Mar 29, 2019
fisher45:


Fisher Nwanne

I feel your pain but you need to understand its the prerogative of the home country to issue a visa even when you meet all the requirements and not a right.

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by fisher45: 7:07pm On Mar 29, 2019
charlicool:
Anyway I ve my appointment on 14th May, v faith it will go well. Now this is my first and will be my last as I am going for visa application based on leadership training, I heard so many peoples failures but I am not disturb by it as I believe mine will sail through, I believed there are people that just applied once and got it so will mine be

Amen. So shall it be. Hope for the best but prepare your mind for anything. They are so unpredictable
Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by fisher45: 7:15pm On Mar 29, 2019
jesmond3945:
you see these people check your docs even before you come for interview. It is always good to "over" submit docs to prove beyond reasonable doubt. The Nigerians in US are the cause of these problems. They overstay their visas thats why it is becoming difficult. Also did you appear formal when you went for the interview? How were you able to answer the questions? Have you written exams like Gmat and toefl with high scores?

There is no provision to submit documents when applying for US visa. You can only fill the DS-160 form where you can summarize your details, credentials and whatnot. They really do not care to validate by asking for original documents during the interview except they find a reason to do so. Hence they tend to act as mind readers. As for my appearance, I was formally dressed and I also had a very high TOEFL score, coupled with a remarkable first degree grade, which prompted and availed me the scholarship.
Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by fisher45: 7:16pm On Mar 29, 2019
debetmx:


I feel your pain but you need to understand its the prerogative of the home country to issue a visa even when you meet all the requirements and not a right.

Very true. I just realized...
Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by Ugosample(m): 7:39pm On Mar 29, 2019
KingOfAllIgbos:
Just give up and try to make the best of this country.

Yes i know the IN thing is to run, but if these Westerners too ran, their countries wouldn't be as great as they are today.

Germany & Japan were already World Leaders before World War II. They were decimated, but they never gave up. They worked as one and they are currently world powers now.

People will say "they have a system that works" But the system wasn't given to them by God, they worked for it.

These denials would continue to increase. That's for sure.

PS - i wanted to go for a Masters at Johns Hopkins. Got a reject and i was like, "there are better ways to spend $63,000" The Masters i got at OAU cost me like $1400 in total (500k naira for the Executive program)

coming from a tribalist like you?

I am shocked, shocked surprised shocked and impressed cheesy at the same time
Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by Ugosample(m): 7:42pm On Mar 29, 2019
Ohraykon:
Can we just boycott them like we are doing to UK presently. Trump is the reason for dis no doubt!

Nigerians should leave their America for them and go elsewhere

Germany will gladly accept you as an international student

The Nordic countries will accept you gladly

even South Africa and countries in the far east

Canada is another alternative


Let Trump continue harassing foreign talent

in20 years America will feel the effect of it....

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Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by KingOfAllIgbos: 7:43pm On Mar 29, 2019
Ugosample:


coming from a tribalist like you?

I am shocked, shocked surprised shocked and impressed cheesy at the same time


How am i a tribalist ? I am a Nationalist. cool

Maybe you went to a miracle center and didn't learn how to spell. grin

Be advised bro, i am a nationalist & pacifist.
Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by Ugosample(m): 7:48pm On Mar 29, 2019
KingOfAllIgbos:

How am i a tribalist ? I am a Nationalist. cool
Maybe you went to a miracle center and didn't learn how to spell. grin
Be advised bro, i am a nationalist & pacifist.
I've read some of your comments
so don't get me started

it's good to know sha
that unlike other punk ass tribalist there
you have some sense in you
nice
Re: Is The US Embassy Exploiting Nigerian Students? by KingOfAllIgbos: 7:52pm On Mar 29, 2019
Ugosample:


I've read some of your comments

so don't get me started


it's good to know sha

that unlike other punk ass tribalist there

you have some sense in you

nice

Seems like " you is a fan" grin i would soon reward my homies with official cars.

You must have mistaken me for one of the rogues here. Ask the Hausa and Yoruba community here.

They would unanimously tell you i am the best Igbo King they know and the only they recognize.

I am proud of my peacebuilding efforts.

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