omoluabi001:


Some ediots here were even claiming the pilot is a terrorist cos he is a Muslim and the co-pilot is a Jew...people are always naive and fo0lish at same time.

when I was in school,if I write exam and Did not see my result instead of me to blame the college for my failure I will blame myself for failing, that's the case of Boeing

dingbang:
I wonder why one will operate an aircraft that he or she wasnt properly trained to handle.

pls go back and read the post. But slowly this time!

Yesterday,I was wondering if it were to be Buhari is the head of Boeing..My guy for look for someone to blame ni o..He will never ever accept responsibility..Olofo Eda

This is what happens when you try to have software to correct a hardware/design fault. mCas should not have to come in beacause the airplane has a tendency to tilt upwards due to the large engines. It should be so redundant that it comes up in critical situations which are of course critical and not as a result of inherent design fault.

TotoNaRubber:
Each of the victim's families should get nothing less than $555,000 = N200 million naira.

Chicken change. Boeing will pay it without breaking a sweat.

SIRTee15:
Boeing's CEO admitted on Thursday that a failure of its software was one of the causes in the recent deadly 737 Max jet crashes.

Dennis Muilenburg said a new software update would prevent future incidents.

"It's our responsibility to eliminate this risk," Muilenburg said in a video message on Thursday. "We own it, and we know how to do it."

Muilenburg's acknowledgement of Boeing's responsibility came after the release earlier Thursday of a preliminary report on the March 10 crash of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, which killed all 157 people on board. In the report, Ethiopian investigators said the jet's pilots followed all safety procedures before the crash.


Though the pilots followed procedures, the report said false sensor readings activated the jet's automatic system against stalling, known as the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, or MCAS. The jet nose-dived minutes after takeoff, similarly to when Lion Air Flight 610, another 737 Max, crashed last October and killed all 189 people on board.

The crashes prompted airlines and international regulators to ground their 737 Max jets, and pilots accused Boeing of failing to train them on the MCAS system.

On Thursday, Muilenburg said a software update would be ready to implement within weeks.

"This update, along with the associated training and additional educational materials that pilots want in the wake of these accidents, will eliminate the possibility of unintended MCAS activation and prevent an MCAS-related accident from ever happening again,"

He said Boeing remained confident in the safety of its jet.

"When the Max returns to the skies with the software changes to the MCAS function, it will be among the safest airplanes ever to fly," he said.

A report on the cause of the Lion Air crash has not yet been released, and Muilenburg stressed that any air crash was the result of a chain of events. He added that he hoped Boeing would again earn the trust of air travelers.

"We at Boeing are sorry for the lives lost in the recent 737 Max accidents. These tragedies continue to weigh heavily on our hearts and minds, and we extend our sympathies to the loved ones of the passengers and crew on board Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302," he said. "All of us feel the immense gravity of these events across our company and recognize the devastation of the families and friends of the loved ones who perished."

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/claudiakoerner/boeing-is-taking-responsibility-in-the-737-jet-crashes-that#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

Huge Compensation to all the family members of the victims of the two airline crash is waiting for Boeing for their negligence.

If they knew they were going to put a bigger engine on the plane that would alter the planes aerodynamics could they not have redesigned the plane to behave normally then MCAs would just be used for extremely emergency situations.

CNN? I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I TUNED TO THEIR PROGRAM, THEY'RE BUNCH OF HATERS... ALJAZEERA FOR ME ANYTIME ANYDAY

Sunymoore:
@CNNAfrica was busy blaming Ethiopia airline and Africa for the crash. Fake news station

joey150:
This crash would have been avoided if the pilot simply deactivated the MCAS and flew the plane manually.

Other pilots had reported similar problem with the 737 and all they did was turn off the MCAS and flew the plane manually till it leveled again.

Why both the Ethiopian and Lion Air Crew didn't think to switch off the MCAS is still mysterious. The simple answer is that they didn't even know it existed to know to turn it off when the plane was nose-diving.

Boeing included a new safety feature in their 737 jets and somehow decided to not completely disclose it.

This is where I have challenges & this boils down to experience but was it really proven that some folks had similar MCAS issues with Max8 series?

TWOWAYMIRROR:
What if the update still has error, to test it, the jet will still fly, who will fly it for testing?

test pilots noni..

JudgeOGBUNABALI:
I have phobia for flying. It's always fun for my wife when flying is unavoidable for me. I will fall sick a day b4 and she'd have field day mocking me. Its my life's worst tight chest experience everytime.

My brother kill that fear. ..

What ever one fears comes to him..most people are never really happy flying up and down, they just fight that fear or bottle it

JudgeOGBUNABALI:
I have phobia for flying. It's always fun for my wife when flying is unavoidable for me. I will fall sick a day b4 and she'd have field day mocking me. Its my life's worst tight chest experience everytime.

You're 10 times more likely to get struck by lightning than to crash in a plane.

You're 10 million times more likely to die in a car crash than to die in a plane

You're 2 million times more likely to die in your sleep than to die in a plane crash

dingbang:
I wonder why one will operate an aircraft that he or she wasnt properly trained to handle.

Are you sure your name is not Dingbat instead?

Because you either didn't read the article and felt compelled to remark anyway, or you read and did not understand a word.

mexzony:
If they knew they were going to put a bigger engine on the plane that would alter the planes aerodynamics could they not have redesigned the plane to behave normally then MCAs would just be used for extremely emergency situations.

the incident was caused by a false sensor reading that activated the MCAS... it's more of a software issue than the hardware on board....

Naija9090:
Omo, they don enter one chance. They will file bankruptcy after paying compensation.

it’s boeing we are talking about not ivm o

MobilityExpress:
Families of the deceased should sue Boeing for $100 trillion. Next time, they will hire better programmers that won't turn their aircrafts to flying coffins.

Boeing is the most successful airplane manufacturer, they've very many other plane types, the normal 737 is one of the best and safest, as is the triple seven. Most pilots prefer flying Boeing than Airbus.

It's not like they're novices at building planes, their software just reacted wrongly to a FAULTY sensor data, so if the sensor had been working fine this probably would not have happened.

Debaks1:
the incident was caused by a false sensor reading that activated the MCAS... it's more of a software issue than the hardware on board....

I don't mean hardware as in hardware. I meant hardware in terms of the whole plane Itself. It's total design and aerodynamic behavior. Forgive me for my language using hardware as in electronic hardware jare. I dey vex for boeing. The planes aerodynamics was altered due to to this new engines so why not redesign the whole thing instead of relying on sensors and software to correct it. Software should only come in critical situations.cheers

OShepherd:
This is where I have challenges & this boils down to experience but was it really proven that some folks had similar MCAS issues with Max8 series?

stuffs like difference in altitude, wingspan, speed and even plane model can cause a different reaction to the same action.. Todays pilots are over reliant on the computer systems in their planes...even plane makers would prefer to build planes that don't need pilots again.....

No consequences for killing 346 people. What is the meaning of taking responsibility often said by big people all over the world?
Obviously Boeing is propecting their proprietary at the expense of people's lives without making sensitive information known to their customers. This is 21st century, all proprietaries must be opened

aAK1:
it’s boeing we are talking about not ivm o

LOL...You mean how GTB made 200 billion but says paying 8 billion to Innoson will collaspse GTB? Hahaha...same way Boeing made $10 billion, and you think it will be easy for it to pay about $500m in compensation and fines?

mexzony:

I don't mean hardware as in hardware. I meant hardware in terms of the whole plane Itself. It's total design and aerodynamic behavior. Forgive me for my language using hardware as in electronic hardware jare. I dey vex for boeing. The planes aerodynamics was altered due to to this new engines so why not redesign the whole thing instead of relying on sensors and software to correct it. Software should only come in critical situations.cheers

You know, the major reason for this sensors are to correct pilot errors...as a safety precaution...but when they malfunction....my broda it takes only God and a really experienced pilot to save the day.....the installed software can dabaru the entire structure of a plane no matter how solid the structure is... Then most of this fancy pants pilots cant fly without this auto assistance... again....they become clueless if it malfunction...they will just be following protocol dat is dependant on a system that has already failed.....

Would likely be mitigated due to jurisdiction of companies and countries affected.

Sunsets:
Now, ladies and gentle men, let the law suits begin.

Naija9090:


LOL...You mean how GTB made 200 billion but says paying 8 billion to Innoson will collaspse GTB? Hahaha...same way Boeing made $10 billion, and you think it will be easy for it to pay about $500m in compensation and fines?

do you really think a company like Boeing won’t have policies in place to handle situations like this? We are talking about one of the most successful companies in the world.its not the first time they are paying huge compensations to both victims and government regulators.

aAK1:
do you really think a company like Boeing won’t have policies in place to handle situations like this? We are talking about one of the most successful companies in the world.its not the first time they are paying huge compensations to both victims and government regulators.

This is where I'll agree with you. They have insurance to cover situations like this.

You think it’s a Nigerian company? Ani na when them delay flights una no get compensation or any kind? Gmcompensation where they don start to pay will changed their lives! That’s a company with values

rockcitie:
Boeing should immediately start paying compensation & damages to families of all the deceased persons.

Debaks1:

You know, the major reason for this sensors are to correct pilot errors...as a safety precaution...but when they malfunction....my broda it takes only God and a really experienced pilot to save the day.....the installed software can dabaru the entire structure of a plane no matter how solid the structure is... Then most of this fancy pants pilots cant fly without this auto assistance... again....they become clueless if it malfunction...they will just be following protocol dat is dependant on a system that has already failed.....

Yeah you have a point there.but let me summarize what am trying to say. "remove mCAS from the plane and does the plane have an issue with tilting up? Yes it does so for me not good enough.
Now other Boeing plane models that don't have mCAS do they have this issue of Bose tilting up? No.
Now can you see where I am coming from.?
Boeing had better make sure they implement the right solution cos this plane self even with the upgrade Na still one eye I go take dey look am.

Rosskii:
So it wasn't the Ethiopian pilot's fault afterall, whereas, some of you were claiming ''it must have been pilot error'' that caused the crash.

One nairalander even said something about ''Africans and incompetence'' etc etc.

Bunch of stupid, self-hating nitwits (You know yourselves).

Ethiopian air is one of the best when it comes to pilot level.

Neoteny:


Boeing is the most successful airplane manufacturer, they've very many other plane types, the normal 737 is one of the best and safest, as is the triple seven. Most pilots prefer flying Boeing than Airbus.

It's not like they're novices at building planes, their software just reacted wrongly to a FAULTY sensor data, so if the sensor had been working fine this probably would not have happened.

WHY?

rockcitie:
Boeing should immediately start paying compensation & damages to families of all the deceased persons.

Exactly

metroid:


They have test pilots for that

Same test pilots that certified the flawed MCAS as ok, right?

dingbang:
I wonder why one will operate an aircraft that he or she wasnt properly trained to handle.

they were properly trained by Boeing company... and the pilot observed all options that he was trained at. the fault was from system errors. which Boeing is taking action for and doing the necessary upgrade.

Neoteny:


Boeing is the most successful airplane manufacturer, they've very many other plane types, the normal 737 is one of the best and safest, as is the triple seven. Most pilots prefer flying Boeing than Airbus.

It's not like they're novices at building planes, their software just reacted wrongly to a FAULTY sensor data, so if the sensor had been working fine this probably would not have happened.

Softwares don't just react, and it's not a sensor problem. It is a software (programming) problem. That's why they are not replacing sensors, rather they are updating the software. Which means their programmers erred and Boeing just killed nearly 400 people, let that sink in.