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Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by nwakaibeya1: 6:33pm On Apr 22, 2019
Whether you celebrate Easter or not �Jeremiah 5,21-22,Knowing or coming in contact with true- man of God or justice God or beign real BORNAGAIN means to be above all kinds of Evil powers&living life of PEACE&UNBELIEVABLE POWER no matter your knowledge base&not to praise& combine#Behold night is one&light is one&you can never belong to the two&remember that JESUSCHRIST never promise anyone money as yardstick of knowing him he only promised PEACE ,LIGHT& UNBELIEVABLE POWER above all evil,but people who follow or associate with pastors&prophets are afraid of Evil people&once they encounter them they are first to accuse other as beign a native doctor or witch&wizard showing fear towards those&they dont have the commonest gift Jesus Christ promised to give those who come in contact with him via so called pastors& prophets etc,which is PEACE&LIGHT& UNBELIEVABLE POWER,so as far as kingdom of real JesusChrist is concerned which we represent all these qualities you think about BORNAGAIN or listed expecially prosperity syndrome&false humility or quoting bible without power after all muslems etc also quote bible from Genesis to revelation,so those are nonconforming because if PEACE&UNBELIEVABLE POWER&LIGHT which Jesus Christ promised are not listed&made available to you by whoever is teaching you or bornagaining you then it means he is not from real JesusChrist&we are open to confrontation spiritually&humans must be told TRUTH&our truth is ACCEPT our TRUTH or PERISH,no apologies #ITs authority defined from he that made SPIRITUAL laws&power that be&of a TRUTH we have told those who care to know that no matter how or what humans claim to be good in the day its only at NIGHT that we know who is who&so many who follow so called pastors&prophets have never seen how his pastors or prophets or whoever is leading them looks SPIRITUALLY,hence everyone has SPIRITUAL look& appearance&many who follow him don't know this hidden secret,so be wise enough to be compliant for you to be truly free&truly wise after all Jesus Christ that he claims to know is spirit&he must take you spiritually to him&not physically,so you must know your pastors&prophets spiritually it's your right to see how they look spiritually hence many are snakes& spiders&tigers& monkeys&palm tree spiritually,meanwhile you must be told that kingdom of JesusChrist has comeback .i speak spiritually&you are free to confront us spiritually hence there is no distance spiritually. John 6,60-68

Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by awoluyi(m): 6:36pm On Apr 22, 2019
Olumba Olumba has just brought to our knowledge what is clearly written in the Holy book. For Jesus Christ to have spent 3 days and 3 night in tomb as predicted by himself, it meant he was killed on Thursday and resurrected Sunday mourning. These facts can be found in Matthew chapters 27 & 28:1. Study carefully Matt 27: 45-50, 57-62, 28:1. To me the most important thing is accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and Redeemer. The rest stands as theological discussion which might profit nothing.

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Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by ebenholer(m): 6:49pm On Apr 22, 2019
Thursday or Friday of a thing is out of tune with the purpose of Christ death, in facts this unnecessary argument is giving the infidels to gain say the truth about the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. But the bible says the word of the cross is foolishness to those that are perishing.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by bionixs: 7:16pm On Apr 22, 2019
Arosko:
Christianity: The religion of the people by the people to their master ( Pastor)... Religion of confusion
you are as confused as that blood sucker called olumba. EASTER celebration is in remembrance of death and resurrection of Christ. No need to mourn,he has brought us SALVATION and that is what we are celebrating. if he likes,let him do his celebration on Thursday,no sin committed for that. Celebrating it everyday is even the best. The most important thing is if you received Him

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Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by awoluyi(m): 7:16pm On Apr 22, 2019
ebenholer:
Thursday or Friday of a thing is out of tune with the purpose of Christ death, in facts this unnecessary argument is giving the infidels to gain say the truth about the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. But the bible says the word of the cross is foolishness to those that are perishing.

I think Christians need to intensify their efforts towards having a deep knowledge of the Bible before attempting to bring people to Christ. It needs a lot of convincing. Just as people in the days of Jesus had argument about resurrection so it is today since no one has ever seen a resurrected person. Almost every religion talks about a reward for every good deed after death, it is therefore an interesting clue towards establishing resurrection.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by cevek11: 7:25pm On Apr 22, 2019
You don't ... Just go to history and stop waiting for you pastor.


hybridblood07:
I need to find out what this man smoked before oughtering such statement.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by bluefilm: 7:27pm On Apr 22, 2019
oyejideogunjumo:

What you don't know are more than what you know. Spiritual things are foolishness to mortal beings so I don't really blame but pray God to open your eyes and hears of understanding in Jesus name

I'd rather you start praying to God for yourself so that he will open your own eyes to the reality instead of just believing in a false teaching all in the hope of making heaven.

By the way, what do you mean by hears? grin
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by HisSexcellency(m): 7:36pm On Apr 22, 2019
TroubleMaker47:
But i always wondered how someone who died on friday and rose on sunday can be said to hv risen on the 3rd day. Mathematical it is wrong but what do i know.
Jesus never said he'll be dead for 3days and 3nights or rise after 3days. He said the son of man will be delivered to the gentiles, he will be killed and buried, and on the third day will rise again. Take note he said on the third day, not after 3days.
Mind you it was started clearly that he died on the eve of the Sabbath, Jewish Sabbath is on Saturday.

He was arrested and tutured Thursday night and held through out the night. It was during this period that apostle Peter denied him 3times, he was sentenced to death Friday morning, was crucified and died around 3pm was hurriedly buried that sameday because of the Sabbath reason why the women only came to anoint his body on sunday morning after the Sabbath.

So in effect, he was in the grave Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Mind you, he rose that Sunday morning. Calculation of the days is not based on 24hrs making 1day format, it's similar to someone who traveled to abuja from lagos on friday afternoon and came back sunday. That person was in abuja for 3days and not 2 because he was there that friday, saturday and sunday before leaving.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by Dreal1247: 7:39pm On Apr 22, 2019
dachiwater:
The founder and spiritual leader of Brotherhood of the Cross and Star, Olumba Olumba Obu has strongly disagreed with the days of death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

According to him, Jesus died on Thursday as against the popular Good Friday that is currently being celebrated all over the world.

In a sermon to mark the Easter festivities in Calabar yesterday, he said. “I am declaring to the whole world from the highest heaven that He died for three days and three nights, just as He said. The three days are Thursday, Friday and Saturday. These three days should be wonderful days for the whole world, to fast and to mourn and to receive blessing.

“People argue that the Lord Jesus Christ was killed on Friday. This is the argument against that assertion:- If He died on Friday, then He is not the one. What you hear is what He said before it ever happened. That is why we usually preach this gospel at a time like this every year.

“I thank God immensely that the Lord Jesus Christ has openly made the declaration that He will only die for three days and three nights. I have already told you that this week is a wonderful one.

“The feast of the Passover was always celebrated on Friday. All the Jews from all parts of the world had to assemble in Jerusalem for the Passover feast on Friday. Saturday was observed as the Sabbath day, and you know how the Jews regarded the Sabbath day.

“How then would He have been crucified on Friday? That was the day of the great feast of the Passover and so they could not have crucified Him on Friday. It was because they were afraid that there would be an uproar among the people if He was crucified on Friday, the feast day. That is why His death was shifted two days backwards.

“On Thursday morning, at 6:00 a.m., he was condemned to death. From that time till Thursday evening was one day. 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. on Friday was the second day. 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. on Saturday was the third day. The night of Thursday was one night. The night of Friday was the second night; and the night of Saturday was the third night. And so altogether you have three days and three nights.

“How would you compute yours? The whole of Christendom, and the so-called orthodox churches argue that He was crucified on Friday, and so they refer to that day as Good Friday. I want them to count with me whether they would have three days and three nights.”


https://unclesuru.com/2019/04/22/olumba-olumba-disagrees-with-christians-on-death-and-resurrection-of-jesus-christ/


Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by Dreal1247: 7:50pm On Apr 22, 2019
Is it the living or the dead Oolumb Oolumba Obu that is talking?
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by HisSexcellency(m): 7:56pm On Apr 22, 2019
Dreal1247:
Is it the living or the dead Oolumb Oolumba Obu that is talking?
Don't mind him, probably seeking a controversial way to trend.
Like i explained to someone early:
Jesus never said he'll be dead for 3days and 3nights or rise after 3days. He said the son of man will be delivered to the gentiles, he will be killed and buried, and on the third day will rise again. Take note he said on the third day, not after 3days.
Mind you it was started clearly that he died on the eve of the Sabbath, Jewish Sabbath is on Saturday.

He was arrested and tutured Thursday night and held through out the night. It was during this period that apostle Peter denied him 3times, he was sentenced to death Friday morning, was crucified and died around 3pm was hurriedly buried that sameday because of the Sabbath reason why the women only came to anoint his body on sunday morning after the Sabbath.

So in effect, he was in the grave Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Mind you, he rose that Sunday morning. Calculation of the days is not based on 24hrs making 1day format, it's similar to someone who traveled to abuja from lagos on friday afternoon and came back sunday. That person was in abuja for 3days and not 2 because he was there that friday, saturday and sunday before leaving.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by Honduras: 8:13pm On Apr 22, 2019
Thank you king Immortal
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by Todetayo(m): 8:13pm On Apr 22, 2019
HOW BIBLICAL IS LENT, PALM SUNDAY, GOOD FRIDAY AND EASTER ❓


Matt 4:2
All actually happened in the Bible.
But we have the mandate of authority in any religious engagement. [Matt 21:23-27]

Authority is either from God or men

Which are we to follow in religion? God or men?

Jesus clearly stated what should be used for his remembrance. Matt 26:26-30
Mk 14:12-26
Lk 22:7-14
Act 20:1-12
1 Cor 11:23-34

Read and tell me the authority we have for lent, palm Sunday, God Friday and easter in the Bible. ALTOGETHER.

REMEMBER... those things actually happened...but the question is, ARE WE GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO DO THEM ?
CAN WE DO WHATEVER SEEM RIGHT OR PLEASES US OR WAIT ON GOD'S AUTHORITY?

✍�
FASHOLA JAMES.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by Btruth: 8:19pm On Apr 22, 2019
Psoul:

Agada gbachiri uzo Oloro ihe loro ihe loro ehi Ugwu ana ari atu egwu Ogbara nkiti okwu juru n'onu ya Ebube ndi nso Di nwanyi isi mkpe Nna ndi na enweghi nna Eze ndi eze
Chaiiiii....Ka m stopugodi so far
.....thank you my dear brother.
olumba koo, olumo rock nii........lol

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Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by HenryInno1(m): 8:46pm On Apr 22, 2019
bluefilm:
More evidence that Jesus never existed.

Everything about him is totally unbelievable.

From his virgin birth

To his rising up from the dead.

All points to nothing but a ridiculous folk story that only children under the ages of seven will find believable and/or fascinating.

Yet to this day, even adults are killing themselves over a mere myth.

Sorry for you idiotic minions.
sorry you here?
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by orisa37: 8:53pm On Apr 22, 2019
3 days, Friday, Saturday,Sunday and 3 nights, Friday, Saturday, Sunday night. He came to Galilee on Monday for The Reception. Olumba is a Forensic Accountant, he doesn't know Science and Pneumatology.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by Mikeparlo12(m): 9:10pm On Apr 22, 2019
MyVILLAGEpeople:
Emperor Constantine and the Bishops made it to be on Sunday during the Nicea Council. Infact Easter, had pagan roots with the Babylonian goddess Ishtar or what the Philistines call Astorath ( Queen of Heaven). It was in the council of Nicea that it was usurped to be celebrated as the resurrection of Christ Jesus.

Guess you attend Adventist church. They teach this
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by olatunjithomas(m): 9:28pm On Apr 22, 2019
whosayswot100:


Yes based on the following Bible Quotations

Hebrews 1: 6-8
Revelation 2:17; 3:12
Revelation 12: 5
Revelation 19: 11-16
Revelation 21: 1-6
Revelation 22: 4
Isaiah 63:1-4
Revelation 11:15
Matthew 6: 9-11
Daniel 2:44
Daniel 7: 13-14
1st Corinthians 13:9-10
John 14:16-17; 14:26
John15:26
John16:7-16


it is well.... I won't say more than that. but to think you give God's glory to a man who will also grow old and die.....
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by Nobody: 9:29pm On Apr 22, 2019
TroubleMaker47:
But i always wondered how someone who died on friday and rose on sunday can be said to hv risen on the 3rd day. Mathematical it is wrong but what do i know.
Duh! He rose on the 3RD day, not AFTER 3 DAYS!
Day 1 of death: Friday
Day 2: Saturday
Day 3 (3rd day): Sunday
There's no place in the Bible where it was said that He would die for three days and three nights but instead that He was going to die and resurrect on the 3RD DAY(This should not be confused for 3 days).
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by PeterChrist: 9:31pm On Apr 22, 2019
The op is very ignorant and is committing an anachronistic and semantic fallacy.
The Jewish people, even in Jesus' day, did not express time as Westerners do. They expressed things in round numbers. They considered any part of a day, however small, as a full day when it was included with a period of days. Thus, they counted the day on which any period began as the first day, and then they did the same thing on the day the period ended.

The "Jewish Encyclopedia," Vol.4, pg.474, confirms this method of reckoning time. It reads, "A short time in the morning of the seventh day counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth
day, even though, of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day."

Now, let us look at some examples in the Bible:

Gen 42.16: "And he put them all in custody for THREE DAYS. On the THIRD DAY, Joseph said to them, "Do this and you will live, for I fear God" and they are released ON that day (from the context of verses 25-26).

1 Kings 20.29: "For SEVEN DAYS they camped opposite each other, and on the SEVENTH DAY the battle was joined. "

Esther 4.16: "Go, gather together all the Jews who are in Susa, and fast for me. Do not eat or drink for THREE DAYS, night or day. I and my maids will fast as you do. When this is done, I will go to the king, even though it is against the law. And if I perish, I perish.'"

And then in

5.1: "On THE THIRD DAY Esther put on her royal robes and stood in the inner court of the palace, in front of the king's hall. "

In this case, "on the third day" is equivalent to "for three days, night or day".

Now compare with this passage in the NT:

Matt 27.63-64: ""Sir," they said, "we remember that while he was still alive that deceiver said, ` After THREE DAYS I will rise again.' So give the order for the tomb to be made secure until the THIRD DAY. "

Note that 'after three days' was somehow equivalent to 'until the third day' (not 'until the fourth day').

So, in conclusion, we read this phrase "three days and three nights" as a figure of speech, not a specific time measurement,understandable in the Jewish mindset more readily than in our Western way of thinking.
Therefore, the op remains invalid.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by oyejideogunjumo: 10:11pm On Apr 22, 2019
bluefilm:


I'd rather you start praying to God for yourself so that he will open your own eyes to the reality instead of just believing in a false teaching all in the hope of making heaven.

By the way, what do you mean by hears? ;

Thanks for the observation. It was inadvertent. It was an error.
Be that as it may, Spiritual matters remain spiritual.John 3 recorded the story of Nicodemus. He didn't understand it but Jesus took time to explain.
Paul did more than you but at last God met on. I pray yours will be this year. God will surely meet you too.
Thanks
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by bluefilm: 10:22pm On Apr 22, 2019
oyejideogunjumo:
Thanks for the observation. It was inadvertent. It was an error.
Be that as it may, Spiritual matters remain spiritual.John 3 recorded the story of Nicodemus. He didn't understand it but Jesus took time to explain.
Paul did more than you but at last God met on. I pray yours will be this year. God will surely meet you too.
Thanks

No need for your prayers.

Jesus this... Jesus that...

But nwanne eh, the truth is that, if you were born to a Muslim family, you'll be telling me a different story here.

So forget that thing.

The white men just bundled a totally nonsense story that only idiots will believe and sold it to you folks, but unfortunately you guys just bought it hook, line and sinker.

Just look at the nonsense you believe in. A child was born without sexual intercourse. A man died and rose up from the dead three abi two days later. A man ascended into heaven.

These are the types of stories you can only find in sci-fi movies.

But yet, it is the foundation of your belief and you want to tell me that you are not insane?!

I laugh at y'all in Chinese. grin grin grin
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by oyejideogunjumo: 10:27pm On Apr 22, 2019
bluefilm:


No need for your prayers.

Jesus this... Jesus that...

But nwanne eh, the truth is that, if you were born to a Muslim family, you'll be telling me a different story here.

So forget that thing.

The white men just bundled a totally nonsense story that only idiots will believe and sold it to you folks, but unfortunately you guys just bought it hook, line and sinker.

Just look at the nonsense you believe in. A child was born without sexual intercourse. A man died and rose up from the dead three abi two days later. A man ascended into heaven.

These are the types of stories you can only find in sci-fi movies.

But yet, it is the foundation of your belief and you want to tell me that you are not insane?!

I laugh at y'all in Chinese. grin grin grin
Time will tell
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by odinga1of: 10:28pm On Apr 22, 2019
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hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha u be mad man
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by BEASTER(m): 10:30pm On Apr 22, 2019
For the so called olumba olumba to acknowledged that JESUS CHRIST died and Has rose from the death is Very much OK for me. I don't need to argue further with them because he is an angle of darkness
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by Bmaster(m): 10:33pm On Apr 22, 2019
TVSA:


Matthew 12:40 KJV
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
if so, then jesus must have been crucified and buried on thursday, and rosed up on early morning of sunday.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by Bmaster(m): 10:33pm On Apr 22, 2019
TVSA:


Matthew 12:40 KJV
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by smallbird: 10:58pm On Apr 22, 2019
gloryfidedesign:
Thank You Most Holy Father for teaching the human race the truth because You are the Truth. You are the Omnipresent God You were there when it all happened, You are the Omnipotent God the all powerful and mighty to Save and You are the Omniscience God You Know everything that happened. great OOO the new name of the Living God You gave to your faithful who have over come the world and their false teaching and knowledge You know all those who are faithfully waiting for Your second coming. Rev3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write up on him my new name. Revelation (KJV). Thank You Father.

homie you've been brainwashed man. that is Rowland Obu. I hope you know that.

the real OOO is dead, I remember the day they drove him with speed to bury him at Biakpan. my uncle followed them.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by smallbird: 11:00pm On Apr 22, 2019
Bmaster:
if so, then jesus must have been crucified and buried on thursday, and rosed up on early morning of sunday.

guy the Jewish calendar had 14 months. the modern calendar has 12 months so you have o calculate everything right to fix the day Jesus Died.

it wasn't a Friday, Saturday, Sunday thing.
Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by Psoul(m): 9:10am On Apr 23, 2019
Btruth:


.....thank you my dear brother.

olumba koo, olumo rock nii........lol

grin grin grin ;DWelcome

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