salt1:


Your opinion. Your life.

I think I speak for most people when I say, a person who would punish/harm you for not loving them , is a person not deserving of love.

If god truly loved humans and values their free will , he wouldn't torture them for all eternity.

salt1:


Clutching at straws to achieve what?
I was just pointing out to you that there are numerous examples of those who have shifted posts as regards religion.
I don't need others to validate my belief. I'm comfortable with Who I believe in. Thanks for discussing for so long

Dude Richard Dawkins did not, I repeat DID NOT shift position on ID. If you did not need validation then why are you touting this fake news about?

Hakeem12:
If it is the Abrahamic God, it is because he is psychotic and hateful, having simultaneously created offsprings that are supposed to follow rules but remain 100% hidden. Punishing and tormenting innocent people in both this lifetime and an eternal life to come, making it virtually guaranteed that any intelligent person will be found guilty of some fickle, capricious and illogical rule, that is in conflict with other rules or our own programming, making a mockery of freewill and any idea regarding supposed parental-like love. Even believers cannot deny that they find such a situation immoral and have to practice various forms of mental blocks not to be aware of the hypocrisy, or the lies one needs to look past.

He made you! You cannot be wiser than He. Your best conceptualization of laws that are fair, just, logical etc. doesn't come near what it truly is. Humble thyself, man, and listen to your maker. You do not know beyond the material world!

realmindz:
The Bible god is the greatest killer of all times and never mess with him especially when he's high on his holy spirit, he will slaughter you without conscience.

You don't worship him and twerk for him to remind him how great he is, then be ready to be tortured in everlasting fire till the ends of time although he loves you ... Why won't you fear him,

He is the greater giver of life. He wants that which is good for all humans. He has given each of us the opportunity to choose what is good. People who choose death eventually get it.

Heathen777:



I think I speak for most people when I say, a person who would punish/harm you for not loving them , is a person not deserving of love.

If god truly loved humans and values their free will , he wouldn't torture them for all eternity.

You sound somewhat sincere. Is God really punishing people for not loving Him? Where did you read that?

What I read is that He will punish those who violate moral codes: the adulterers, the murderers, all liars, sorcerers, etc. Humans are free to exercise their free will provided it doesn't hurt man and God. Moral codes are just and right.
We won't think our parents who disciplined us didn't love us, would we? It's even out of love that they discipline us.
The penal code is the same: allocate punishment based on gravity of offence, but capital punishment for certain classes.

God corrects all through one's life, but as death happens, this phase called time ends, and we enter a timeless zone. Man's penal code stipulates life imprisonment, while God's is eternal separation from Him. It sounds reasonable to me.

9jamustchange:


He made you! You cannot be wiser than He. Your best conceptualization of laws that are fair, just, logical etc. doesn't come near what it truly is. Humble thyself, man, and listen to your maker. You do not know beyond the material world!

So would you like to be my slave under your god's law?

salt1:

May my God bless you. Amen. Thanks for the name calling

It's what you are bro..

Bossjakande:
u are a fool u will face pains in hell

Hell's Gatekeeper..

Make sure he's there to sign the attendance register..

Where is it written that Dawkins repented and embraced religion?

Non,

Except by Purveyors of Fake News,

To suit their narratives..

9jamustchange:


He made you! You cannot be wiser than He. Your best conceptualization of laws that are fair, just, logical etc. doesn't come near what it truly is. Humble thyself, man, and listen to your maker. You do not know beyond the material world!

Story..

backbone503:


Social media really offers niwits like you a veritable platform and balls to say things you'd never had said physically.

I have nothing else to say to you. Wallow in your abject ignorance.

if not out of ignorance , how would prove there is no God ?
u just keep spewing stupidity.

Akuruoulo:



if not out of ignorance , how would prove there is no God ?
u just keep spewing stupidity.

Guy, you dey worry o! I reply one time and one time only. Keep your stupidity (even if na immense wisdom) to yourself. No quote me again o!

What are you saying, even at that the cock itself makes mistakes,and after we spot such nonsense we kill it.

i wonder why people always fight against christianity (the true way)... well the right way is always rejected....you all need to open your third eye on your forehead, to see the truth

Kingkun69:
Every animal has an inbuilt clock science gave us the answer 1st

Forget that science, every thing have a purpose, including your existence, just as every thing your body features,

Do you know that as small thing as your eye lashes holds water from dripping into your eyes, the hairs in your nose holds dust and prevent ants from crawling in

[quote author=pele12 post=78335399]i wonder why people always fight against christianity (the true way)... well the right way is always rejected....you all need to open your third eye on your forehead, to see the truth[/quot

With all the Races in this world, only Christian is the way? Ok, so the other religions that are blessed with wealth and wisdom, who bless them?

CAPSLOCKED:


READ YOUR BIBLE, THEN ASK YOURSELF;

1. ANIMALS TALKED. IS IT TRULY RIGHT?
2. MILLIONS OF CHILDREN WERE KILLED, BOTH IN THE FLOOD, IN EGYPT, AND BY KINGS. INCLUDING THE TIMES GOD MADE BETS WITH MEN. IS IT TRULY RIGHT?
3. PEOPLE WORKING WITHOUT PRAYERS OR BELIEVING GOD, BUT IN FAVOURABLE CONDITIONS ARE ACHIEVING AND PROGRESSING... WHILE PEOPLE BELIEVING GOD AND WORKING, MOSTLY IN AFRICA AND PARTS OF ASIA WHERE THERE ARE NO FAVOURABLE ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMICAL STRUCTURES, ARE ACHIEVING LITTLE, AND ARE GETTING KILLED BY COLD, MALARIA AND LACK OF NUTRITION. IS IT RIGHT?
4. A PREGNANT VIRGIN AND A MAN TURNING WATER INTO JUICE, WALKING ON WATER, AND TALKING TO THOUSANDS AT ONCE WITHOUT A SOUND SYSTEM AND THEN PROCEEDS TO FEED THEM ALL WITH ONLY 5 LOAVES OF BREAD, AND GATHERED 12 FULL BASKETS OF LEFTOVERS. IS THIS RIGHT?
5. A KILLER RAPIST GOES TO HEAVEN IF HE REPENTS BEFORE DEATH. BUT AN INNOCENT CHILD OF 6 WHO WAS RAPED AND KILLED BY HIM GOES TO HELL BECAUSE HER PARENTS NEVER BAPTIZED HER IN CHRISTIANITY. IS THIS RIGHT?
6. IS IT RIGHT THAT PASTORS ARE BILLIONAIRES AND MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH CANNOT AFFORD BREAD?
8. IS IT RIGHT THAT YOUR LOVING FATHER IS GOING TO SEND MANY PEOPLE TO HELL JUST BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T BORN INTO CHRISTIAN FAMILIES, EVEN WHEN THEY LIVED LIFE AS GOOD PEOPLE?

9. YOU WANT ME TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD. YOU BELIEVE THIS NOT BECAUSE THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD BUT BECAUSE YOUR PARENTS MADE YOU BELIEVE THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD.
EVERY EXPERIMENT AND EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THERE'S NO CAT ON YOUR HEAD, BUT YOU'RE GOING CRAZY... YOU CAN'T SEEM TO STOP BELIEVING THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD AND YOU WON'T STOP TRYING TO GET OTHERS TO BELIEVE IT TOO. IS THIS RIGHT?


THINK FOR A WHOLE DAY, ARE YOU OKAY?

lwkmd.........bro, like seriously, u re so on point........how i wish i can argue wit dem like dis?

CAPSLOCKED:


READ YOUR BIBLE, THEN ASK YOURSELF;

1. ANIMALS TALKED. IS IT TRULY RIGHT?
2. MILLIONS OF CHILDREN WERE KILLED, BOTH IN THE FLOOD, IN EGYPT, AND BY KINGS. INCLUDING THE TIMES GOD MADE BETS WITH MEN. IS IT TRULY RIGHT?
3. PEOPLE WORKING WITHOUT PRAYERS OR BELIEVING GOD, BUT IN FAVOURABLE CONDITIONS ARE ACHIEVING AND PROGRESSING... WHILE PEOPLE BELIEVING GOD AND WORKING, MOSTLY IN AFRICA AND PARTS OF ASIA WHERE THERE ARE NO FAVOURABLE ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMICAL STRUCTURES, ARE ACHIEVING LITTLE, AND ARE GETTING KILLED BY COLD, MALARIA AND LACK OF NUTRITION. IS IT RIGHT?
4. A PREGNANT VIRGIN AND A MAN TURNING WATER INTO JUICE, WALKING ON WATER, AND TALKING TO THOUSANDS AT ONCE WITHOUT A SOUND SYSTEM AND THEN PROCEEDS TO FEED THEM ALL WITH ONLY 5 LOAVES OF BREAD, AND GATHERED 12 FULL BASKETS OF LEFTOVERS. IS THIS RIGHT?
5. A KILLER RAPIST GOES TO HEAVEN IF HE REPENTS BEFORE DEATH. BUT AN INNOCENT CHILD OF 6 WHO WAS RAPED AND KILLED BY HIM GOES TO HELL BECAUSE HER PARENTS NEVER BAPTIZED HER IN CHRISTIANITY. IS THIS RIGHT?
6. IS IT RIGHT THAT PASTORS ARE BILLIONAIRES AND MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH CANNOT AFFORD BREAD?
8. IS IT RIGHT THAT YOUR LOVING FATHER IS GOING TO SEND MANY PEOPLE TO HELL JUST BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T BORN INTO CHRISTIAN FAMILIES, EVEN WHEN THEY LIVED LIFE AS GOOD PEOPLE?

9. YOU WANT ME TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD. YOU BELIEVE THIS NOT BECAUSE THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD BUT BECAUSE YOUR PARENTS MADE YOU BELIEVE THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD.
EVERY EXPERIMENT AND EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THERE'S NO CAT ON YOUR HEAD, BUT YOU'RE GOING CRAZY... YOU CAN'T SEEM TO STOP BELIEVING THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD AND YOU WON'T STOP TRYING TO GET OTHERS TO BELIEVE IT TOO. IS THIS RIGHT?


THINK FOR A WHOLE DAY, ARE YOU OKAY?

lwkmd.........bro, like seriously, u re so on point........how i wish i can argue wit dem like dis?

clemz85:


Forget that science, every thing have a purpose, including your existence, just as every thing your body features,

Do you know that as small thing as your eye lashes holds water from dripping into your eyes, the hairs in your nose holds dust and prevent ants from crawling in

and what gave us that answer

Bossjakande:
u are a fool u will face pains in hell

common you do not need to threaten him about burning in hell fire. the first question i might ask is how do you know about this hell fire ? any evidence for it ?

Elvis2kay:
The European brainwashed The Africans with Christianity.. so sad..

Kindly note that the Europeans supplanted some practices and ways with those with superior standing. How will you stand it if at this stage twins are seen evil, sacrificing human being for ritual purposes and tagging some as inferior elements of the society all because of lineage— the Osu in Igbo and slaves.
Even if we agree that we were made to follow white man God, we can't deny the fact that our ancestors had their gods whom they worshipped and in whose service they did what could have stood distasteful today.

LordReed:


I don't mind the occasional civil discuss but XxSabrinaxX is the true champion of patience.

Totally true. her patience ehn, is on a whole different level. I can't deal men. as Dantedasz said, it's like banging your head on a concrete wall. what's the point?

The indoctrination is deep. Very deep.

Danhumprey:
Totally true. her patience ehn, is on a whole different level. I can't deal men. as Dantedasz said, it's like banging your head on a concrete wall. what's the point?

The indoctrination is deep. Very deep.

Sorry,I just have to throw this in....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y201QzDdzbg

CAPSLOCKED:


READ YOUR BIBLE, THEN ASK YOURSELF;

1. ANIMALS TALKED. IS IT TRULY RIGHT?
2. MILLIONS OF CHILDREN WERE KILLED, BOTH IN THE FLOOD, IN EGYPT, AND BY KINGS. INCLUDING THE TIMES GOD MADE BETS WITH MEN. IS IT TRULY RIGHT?
3. PEOPLE WORKING WITHOUT PRAYERS OR BELIEVING GOD, BUT IN FAVOURABLE CONDITIONS ARE ACHIEVING AND PROGRESSING... WHILE PEOPLE BELIEVING GOD AND WORKING, MOSTLY IN AFRICA AND PARTS OF ASIA WHERE THERE ARE NO FAVOURABLE ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMICAL STRUCTURES, ARE ACHIEVING LITTLE, AND ARE GETTING KILLED BY COLD, MALARIA AND LACK OF NUTRITION. IS IT RIGHT?
4. A PREGNANT VIRGIN AND A MAN TURNING WATER INTO JUICE, WALKING ON WATER, AND TALKING TO THOUSANDS AT ONCE WITHOUT A SOUND SYSTEM AND THEN PROCEEDS TO FEED THEM ALL WITH ONLY 5 LOAVES OF BREAD, AND GATHERED 12 FULL BASKETS OF LEFTOVERS. IS THIS RIGHT?
5. A KILLER RAPIST GOES TO HEAVEN IF HE REPENTS BEFORE DEATH. BUT AN INNOCENT CHILD OF 6 WHO WAS RAPED AND KILLED BY HIM GOES TO HELL BECAUSE HER PARENTS NEVER BAPTIZED HER IN CHRISTIANITY. IS THIS RIGHT?
6. IS IT RIGHT THAT PASTORS ARE BILLIONAIRES AND MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH CANNOT AFFORD BREAD?
8. IS IT RIGHT THAT YOUR LOVING FATHER IS GOING TO SEND MANY PEOPLE TO HELL JUST BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T BORN INTO CHRISTIAN FAMILIES, EVEN WHEN THEY LIVED LIFE AS GOOD PEOPLE?

9. YOU WANT ME TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD. YOU BELIEVE THIS NOT BECAUSE THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD BUT BECAUSE YOUR PARENTS MADE YOU BELIEVE THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD.
EVERY EXPERIMENT AND EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THERE'S NO CAT ON YOUR HEAD, BUT YOU'RE GOING CRAZY... YOU CAN'T SEEM TO STOP BELIEVING THERE'S A CAT ON YOUR HEAD AND YOU WON'T STOP TRYING TO GET OTHERS TO BELIEVE IT TOO. IS THIS RIGHT?


THINK FOR A WHOLE DAY, ARE YOU OKAY?

this whole point you stated is not worth my thinking for one second cos I have the very answer, and sincerely all you just pointed happened for a reason and some you pointed are not true.



who told you all that are Christians will make heaven and non Christian won't make heaven?

what do you understand by the term 'christian'


if God created heaven and earth and decide to do anything with it, that's cos he can.
you grude about God is still not sufficient enough not to believe him truly, well atleast u noticed he his God and he exist.
the malaria and whatsoever you mention are devices used by the devil, the cutest of all animals can harm you and the strongest of any animal can still play with you.
every thing good is from God,never as anything good be related to the devil, that the lord allows the devil to try man alone is a pointer to you that it's only the devil who will and he is the only one doing such.

Ethics and value system is key to a sane society!