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Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by Nobody: 4:51pm On Sep 24, 2010
I am a nominal christian - meaning I was born a christian and practice Christianity but do not take the bible and teachings literary. I apply what I think is realistic and relevant

i have done Jazz before. a long time ago based on university levels. What I needed the Jazz for worked, but I never believed it worked simply because of the jazz. Even when I did the jazz I relied more on my ability and the jazz was to fulfill all righteousness

Anyway, the older I become I cannot help but think Jazz is the original 419 of Africa and the Jazzmen the original yahoo boys.

People always claim Jazz works but nobody has ever given me any solid evidence. One guy claims that "shoot me no enter" worked for him. I told him lets go to the jazzman that prepared him for him and if he can prove the jazz really work, I will sell his jazz to America to use and fight in Afghanistan and we will all be richer than Bill Gates
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by harakiri(m): 4:43pm On Sep 25, 2010
bermuda1:

I am a nominal christian - meaning I was born a christian and practice Christianity but do not take the bible and teachings literary. I apply what I think is realistic and relevant

i have done Jazz before. a long time ago based on university levels. What I needed the Jazz for worked, but I never believed it worked simply because of the jazz. Even when I did the jazz I relied more on my ability and the jazz was to fulfill all righteousness

Anyway, the older I become I cannot help but think Jazz is the original 419 of Africa and the Jazzmen the original yahoo boys.

People always claim Jazz works but nobody has ever given me any solid evidence. One guy claims that "shoot me no enter" worked for him. I told him lets go to the jazzman that prepared him for him and if he can prove the jazz really work, I will sell his jazz to America to use and fight in Afghanistan and we will all be richer than Bill Gates


I'll tell you this. . . There are powers that exist in this world. A handful of people have been able to harness some of these powers but don't really have in-depth knowledge of what they are doing. In Africa for instance, i know there are traditional healers and fortune tellers but for the later, most of them these days are outright frauds who utilize their knowledge of basic human psychology to analyze their "customers" e.g if a middle aged woman goes to visit either a "prophet" or Babalawo or Imam, he automatically knows that she's come to inquire about her children's welfare and possibly the future of her marriage. If a young man comes to him, he already knows that number one thing on man's mind is his success in finance and relationships. If a young woman comes to him, he knows she's either having trying to hook a man down or has issues with her current relationship. It's basic common sense. The thing is, when people are desperate, they will believe anything so long as their is an assurance that it's a "divine" message.

Finally, talking about those who claim to bring rain from the sky, provide charms for success and wealth, provide protection from bullet and knife wounds, produce money from decapitated human parts etc. . . It's all LIES! ! ! This rain making claim is usually common in the village with people who have knowledge that intense bush burning is capable of inducing rain. If charms for success and wealth works, why are there so many poor people in this country? Those people in the village have easier access to voodoo.Why are their lives so wretched if this voodoo really works? Kidnappers,armed robbers and police men use "anti-bullet and knife" charms all the time. If the charms work, why do they keep getting pumped by bullets and dying miserable deaths? The Niger delta boys claim to depend on these charms and yet, they keep getting cut down like goats by JTF bullets. Why can't they face the JTF with their voodoo and bare hands? Why do they carry guns? Why do some of them wear bullet proof vests? The money ritual voodoo is another lie. Do you know how many people that get caught with human parts every week? Mere looking at them, you will know they are poorer than bush rats! Why do kidnappers demand for ransom instead of using their victims for rituals? Why would they risk exposing themselves to collect ransom instead of using their victims to make billions over nite (lol) ?

It's all a scam but human beings will always be gullible (especially the greater population). That is why people will hear a revelation that a woman gave birth to a big snail in T.B Joshua's church and they will believe without question (imagine that!!!). All the so called miracles displayed on TV are obvious frauds but people will still delude themselves to believe it's real. I don't blame them though. Frustration and hopelessness are very powerful tools that delude humans.

Nuff said!

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Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by InesQor(m): 1:30am On Sep 27, 2010
@harakiri You dey vex o grin grin grin
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by mazaje(m): 3:35pm On Sep 27, 2010
harakiri my man. . . . . grin

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Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 7:05pm On Sep 27, 2010
@harakiri. abeg no vex because e no work for you. It has worked for me to the point i was tagged Juju-Priest back in boarding school.

I believe the Human Mind has limitless potentials that we are barely beginning to understand or even touch I read a lot of occult books back in my secondary school days but never bothered to try out stuff like invoking spirits or demons. There is one thing though? if you believe in something completely, you can have a material effect on the reality of those around you and indeed your environment.

As usual I was dead-hungry and out of provisions (namely garri and salt) in my near hallucinatory state, I thought to myself, why not form a spell with 3 wishes which i did by drying up the bones from the fish i had for supper and burying it in our school farm for 3-days, I also had a trigger incantation to activate the wish and this i memorized. The moment of truth. Stingy Mike was a lad who was famed for never consuming his provisions (Cabin, Milk, Milo) he took them back home each term. I pulled out my charm and activated it with my magic words, i went up to mike and straight told him to take out his Cabin and give to me, he did without a pause and carried on like nothing happened. grin. The next wish was on my PE Master. I was punished for not attending PE one day and he asked that I appear in front of his office the next day (just across the parade ground where everyone will witness the floggin). I did my thing again and wished that the PE master forgot all about me. I never showed-up and never got punished (Mr.Lawrence never fails to punish anyone, not once), The last wish was actually a curse on a senior in Form 3. he promised me some money to copy notes for him and in the end refused and punished me instead. He was still in form 3 after i passed WAEC and left the school. I know, there is a logical explanation to all of it. but heck it was JaZZ for me grin

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Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by Jenwitemi(m): 8:59pm On Sep 27, 2010
Juju is advanced science that is beyond our understanding at the moment. We still do not know by which principles it works and that is why we think it is magic.

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Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by Nobody: 9:29pm On Sep 27, 2010
Some pple believe in juju
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by Nobody: 9:29pm On Sep 27, 2010
Some pple believe in juju
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by ilosiwaju: 2:01pm On Sep 28, 2010
Jenwitemi:

Juju is advanced science that is beyond our understanding at the moment. We still do not know by which principles it works and that is why we think it is magic.
For starters, do you believe it even works at all?
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 2:18pm On Sep 28, 2010
ilosiwaju:

For starters, do you believe it even works at all?

Do you really believe that prayers work (if it works) at all!? can you prove it practically here on nairaland grin I dare you
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by ilosiwaju: 2:34pm On Sep 28, 2010
I do not believe prayers work. I do not believe juju works either. Do you? Sir? wink
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by Jenwitemi(m): 12:42pm On Sep 29, 2010
ilosiwaju:

For starters, do you believe it even works at all?
While i have never witnessed it work live, i cannot dismiss it that it does not work after all what i have discovered of late. I am convinced that juju is advanced science.
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by Jenwitemi(m): 1:12pm On Sep 29, 2010
Assignment of the day; Will everybody interested in this topic google the word, RADIONICS. What will come to your mind is voodoo.
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by Jenwitemi(m): 1:16pm On Sep 29, 2010
From wikipeadia;

Description of Radionics

According to radionics practitioners, a healthy person will have certain energy frequencies moving through their body that define health, while an unhealthy person will exhibit other, different energy frequencies that define disorders. Radionic devices purport to diagnose and heal by applying appropriate frequencies to balance the discordant frequencies of sickness. Radionics uses "frequency" not in its standard meaning but to describe an imputed energy type, which does not correspond to any property of energy in the scientific sense.[4]

In one form of radionics popularised by Abrams, some blood on a bit of filter paper is attached to a device Abrams called a dynamizer, which is attached by wires to a string of other devices and then to the forehead of a healthy volunteer, facing west in a dim light. By tapping on on his abdomen and searching for areas of "dullness", disease in the donor of the blood is diagnosed by proxy. Handwriting analysis is also used to diagnose disease under this scheme.[1]

Having done this, the practitioner may use a special device known as an oscilloclast or any of a range of other devices to broadcast vibrations at the patient in order to attempt to heal them.[1]

Albert Abrams claimed to detect such frequencies and/or cure people by matching their frequencies, and claimed them sensitive enough that he could tell someone's religion by looking at a drop of blood.[1] He developed thirteen devices and became a millionaire leasing his devices,[1][5] and the American Medical Association described him as the "dean of gadget quacks,"[5] and his devices were definitively proven useless by an independent investigation commissioned by Scientific American in 1924.[6]

Modern practitioners now conceptualize these devices merely as a focusing aid to the practitioner's proclaimed dowsing abilities, and claim that there is no longer any need for the device to have any demonstrable function. Indeed, Abrams' black boxes had no purpose of their own, being merely obfuscated collections of wires and electronic parts.[6]

Scientific assessment of Radionics

Radionics devices contradict principles of biology and physics, and no scientifically plausible mechanism of function is posited. In this sense, they can be described as magical in operation. No plausible biophysical basis for the "putative energy fields" has been proposed, and neither the fields themselves nor their purported therapeutic effects have been convincingly demonstrated.[7]

No radionic device has been found efficacious in the diagnosis or treatment of any disease, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration does not recognize any legitimate medical uses of any such device.[2] According to David Helwig in The Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine, "most physicians dismiss radionics as quackery."[3]

Internally, a radionic device is very simple, and may not even form a functional electrical circuit.[6] The wiring in the analysis device is simply used as a mystical conduit.[8] A radionic device does not use or need electric power, though a power cord may be provided, ostensibly to determine a "base rate" on which the device operates to attempt to heal a subject.[9] Typically, little attempt is made to define or describe what, if anything, is flowing along the wires and being measured. Energy in the physical sense, i.e., energy that can be sensed and measured, is viewed as subordinate to intent and "creative action."[8]
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by Jenwitemi(m): 1:45pm On Sep 29, 2010
Radionic Association Community Portal,  http://www.radionic.co.uk/

It is all about frequencies, it seems. An area that the mainstream science has not accepted yet. Radionics work with principles similar to that of voodoo or juju. Both ancient arts work with human frequencies to make things happen.
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by drrionelli(m): 4:52am On Mar 12, 2011
And, all this time I thought this was in reference to a musical artform that I hold near and dear! wink
Re: Is Jazz Real? - I Need Proof by Mysteriousworld: 6:13am On Mar 13
I am a nominal christian - meaning I was born a christian and practice Christianity but do not take the bible and teachings literary. I apply what I think is realistic and relevant

i have done Jazz before. a long time ago based on university levels. What I needed the Jazz for worked, but I never believed it worked simply because of the jazz. Even when I did the jazz I relied more on my ability and the jazz was to fulfill all righteousness

Anyway, the older I become I cannot help but think Jazz is the original 419 of Africa and the Jazzmen the original yahoo boys.

People always claim Jazz works but nobody has ever given me any solid evidence. One guy claims that "shoot me no enter" worked for him. I told him lets go to the jazzman that prepared him for him and if he can prove the jazz really work, I will sell his jazz to America to use and fight in Afghanistan and we will all be richer than Bill Gates
We no get jazz reach America... Na Lucifer them dey worship

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