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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 8:23pm On Aug 21, 2019
Shepherd00:

Yes, I know about Rebecca Brown. And yes her works according to my classification can pass for revealing "The Deep Things of Satan" I'm with a walking that's the distance of services on. This is the reason. When The Lord was on earth, Satan was active as he is today, but, the Lord didn't leave preaching His kingdom to dwell on what satan was doing. All he did when He met them was cast them out, no questions asked. If am wrong correct me pls.

No Apostle's writings reflects the style of Rebecca Brown's. Just like their master, they never recognize satan to talk about him.

As far as I'm concerned, Rebecca Brown's disciples will leave In perpetual fear and torment of satan and his hordes. Her messages are geared to induce fear and hopelessness in the way the societies today, not remembering that satan has always been here but the Church has continued to match forward.

I have read Dr. Rebecca Brown's books in detail, and I am not one bit scared about what the kingdom of darkness can do. If anything, it makes me appreciate how powerful God is. Her books are not just about the works of darkness, but most importantly the victories over works of darkness through the Holy Spirit. I do not want to go into much detail.

But the secrets of the kingdom of darkness was laid bare for all to see. You cannot engage in warfare with an opponent you are clueless on. However, I also see your view point in which some people might tend towards the extreme and be so fascinated and obsessed with such knowledge. I'm sorry, those ones have missed the point entirely.

Shepherd00:

She gives too much information about satan, and too little about the Kingdom of Jesus which she was supposedly called to preach.
She dwells so much on the abilities of satan but almost none about the immense power of the Only Potentiate.

I disagree with this. Perhaps, you were too focused on the Kingdom of darkness, rather than her testimonies of victory over them.

How many of her books have you read if I may ask?

Shepherd00:

Jesus want us looking up to His Kingdom and power and Victory, If He wanted us knowing so much about satan, he wld've talked more about him. But the whole Bible even seem to ignore satan in a large scale.
Anyone who wants people to cast their eyes down looking at how powerful and connected satan is, is walking for satan, knowingly or unknowingly.

Her books are not in any way magnifying the powers of darkness. But rather how you can overcome such with the power of God. Perhaps you were carried away with all the interesting details, pictures and all sorts.

Shepherd00:

You have not received the spirit of fear again to bondage... Do you know that this means?

Again, I'll repeat. I am not in anyway scared about the occult or kingdom of darkness. I have seen horrible things in the spirit realm, and I am still here gallant. Not by my power, but by that of the Holy Spirit.

Matters of Spirituality is shooed and hushed in the church, people are really scared or uncomfortable discussing such. I understand though. But I have seen, and I have overcome by the Spirit of God. And my testimony makes my faith and belief in the Uncreated One even stronger.

Shepherd00:

This is unnecessary. All I asked is for the establishment of the books authorship.


I will look forward to this.

And pls begin with the authentic info about the book's authorship. because Moses writing Genesis after more than 4 to 5 hundred years that his Ancestor Abraham had lived and died, and him being the one who told us about Enoch in the first place, need clarification.

Who wrote the book of Enoch is my question.
If you insist Enoch did. The next question wld be,

When?
Was it during the days of Abraham, Isaac or Jacob?
Was it when the Israelites were in Egypt?

Was it during their 40ys voyage in the Wilderness?

When?



Written by Enoch prior to his permanent departure from Earth. I mentioned that in my previous post.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 8:23pm On Aug 21, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Are you deaf or cant read that I have given you my blessing to wallow in your ignorance and blessed your commitment to be an ignoranus.

You are actually lucky, I was ready to put my neck on the line, go mano a mano with you, give you a chance to defend your corner and try to shine with this fake arse accursed fake news Book of Enoch but soon realised you don't send a bwoy on a man's errand.

Keep on incompletely quoting me, just to gain dishonest advantage.

Pls guys let's calm now. it's a discussion nothing Personal.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 8:24pm On Aug 21, 2019
Anas09:

Sorry, for the mix up. Anas09 is not Shepherd.

No worries bro
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 8:25pm On Aug 21, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Enoch went to heaven, more than once, he says, pfft. Smh

What's the shocker in that lol, behaving as if telling something people aren't aware of. Do you know the reason and circumstances why the authorship is questioned, hmm?

overgrown kid, stay off my mentions...


I guess we should also discount Paul's tale of being caught up into heaven, or the revelation of John as well...But since they're in the 66 books Bible you were brought up with, I guess they should have a free pass...

Please homosexual apologist, get off my mentions. You are a distraction
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 8:26pm On Aug 21, 2019
Anas09:

No, Anas09 is here, we seem to be asking the same questions. Lol

Woah, okay... sorry for the mix up then
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 8:28pm On Aug 21, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Are you deaf or cant read that I have given you my blessing to wallow in your ignorance and blessed your commitment to be an ignoranus.

You are actually lucky, I was ready to put my neck on the line, go mano a mano with you, give you a chance to defend your corner and try to shine with this fake arse accursed fake news Book of Enoch but soon realised you don't send a bwoy on a man's errand.

Keep on incompletely quoting me, just to gain dishonest advantage.


After you edited your post, you're claiming I quoted you incompletely? Do you have any iota of shame at all?

Oops, not at all. Since you can boldly tell us God has nothing against monogamous loving homosexuals.

Get off my mentions please. Stay on your lane.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 8:34pm On Aug 21, 2019
Anas09, Shepherd00 you have both read the book of Enoch in detail?

If yes, I have a link to share with you to corroborate certain things.

If no, I'll share the link all the same. I'd like us to do a detailed discussion of this book on another thread, perhaps this weekend and compare notes.

Is that fine? Let's not derail this thread any further.

EnthronedbyGod posted something about the origins of witchcraft/sorcery which aligned with what I read in the book of Enoch, and I shared that with him.

He posted it here;
https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/50#81381734

And I replied him here;
https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/50#81381734

We can discuss the book of Enoch much better on another thread, rather than derail this one.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 8:36pm On Aug 21, 2019
I totally agree with you . We need a whole lot more of Jesus and lot less of Satan just so as not to be ignorant of his devices.

[quote author=Shepherd00 post= 81477214]
Yes, I know about Rebecca Brown. And yes her works according to my classification can pass for revealing "The Deep Things of Satan" I'm with a walking that's the distance of services on. This is the reason. When The Lord was on earth, Satan was active as he is today, but, the Lord didn't leave preaching His kingdom to dwell on what satan was doing. All he did when He met them was cast them out, no questions asked. If am wrong correct me pls.

No Apostle's writings reflects the style of Rebecca Brown's. Just like their master, they never recognize satan to talk about him.

As far as I'm concerned, Rebecca Brown's disciples will leave In perpetual fear and torment of satan and his hordes. Her messages are geared to induce fear and hopelessness in the way the societies today, not remembering that satan has always been here but the Church has continued to match forward.

She gives too much information about satan, and too little about the Kingdom of Jesus which she was supposedly called to preach.

She dwells so much on the abilities of satan but almost none about the immense power of the Only Potentiate.

Jesus want us looking up to His Kingdom and power and Victory, If He wanted us knowing so much about satan, he wld've talked more about him. But the whole Bible even seem to ignore satan in a large scale.

Anyone who wants people to cast their eyes down looking at how powerful and connected satan is, is walking for satan, knowingly or unknowingly.

You have not received the spirit of fear again to bondage... Do you know that this means?
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This is unnecessary. All I asked is for the establishment of the books authorship.


I will look forward to this.

And pls begin with the authentic info about the book's authorship. because Moses writing Genesis after more than 4 to 5 hundred years that his Ancestor Abraham had lived and died, and him being the one who told us about Enoch in the first place, need clarification.

Who wrote the book of Enoch is my question.
If you insist Enoch did. The next question wld be,

When?
Was it during the days of Abraham, Isaac or Jacob?
Was it when the Israelites were in Egypt?

Was it during their 40ys voyage in the Wilderness?

When?


quote

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 8:36pm On Aug 21, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:



I didn't do anything so don't congratulate me.

I say amen to your prayers

Hello bro. God bless you for the good works He is doing through you. I sent a request to email you just now. Have some things to discuss with you. Thanks and God bless you.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 8:44pm On Aug 21, 2019
Bodydialect57:
I totally agree with you . We need a whole lot more of Jesus and lot less of Satan just so as not to be ignorant of his devices.

You didn't quote Shepherd00 properly, so I filtered out your response only.

And yes, I agree with you. The idea is not to read all those books and get carried away by what the kingdom of darkness can do.

The focus should be, with God on your side, you are seated far above all these principalities and powers.

And also, not to get deceived. Rebecca Brown's testimonies and the people liberated from bondage in the 80s and 90s as a result of that still reverberates till today.

At times I wonder why believers downplay the part of conquering evil by the words of their testimonies.

Cheers

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 9:11pm On Aug 21, 2019
OkCornel:
Anas09, Shepherd00 you have both read the book of Enoch in detail?

If yes, I have a link to share with you to corroborate certain things.

If no, I'll share the link all the same. I'd like us to do a detailed discussion of this book on another thread, perhaps this weekend and compare notes.

Is that fine? Let's not derail this thread any further.

EnthronedbyGod posted something about the origins of witchcraft/sorcery which aligned with what I read in the book of Enoch, and I shared that with him.

He posted it here;
https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/50#81381734

And I replied him here;
https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/50#81381734

We can discuss the book of Enoch much better on another thread, rather than derail this one.
Okay Fine.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 9:14pm On Aug 21, 2019
OkCornel:


You didn't quote Shepherd00 properly, so I filtered out your response only.

And yes, I agree with you. The idea is not to read all those books and get carried away by what the kingdom of darkness can do.

The focus should be, with God on your side, you are seated far above all these principalities and powers.

And also, not to get deceived. Rebecca Brown's testimonies and the people liberated from bondage in the 80s and 90s as a result of that still reverberates till today.

At times I wonder why believers downplay the part of conquering evil by the words of their testimonies.

Cheers

Make I join maut ask too. Why did Jesus down play on satan but Christians even after IMG warmed no to do it, are bent on doing it?
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 9:15pm On Aug 21, 2019
Anas09:

Okay Fine.

Cheers...

Here's the download link;
https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-books-of-enoch-e26875656.html
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 9:17pm On Aug 21, 2019
Anas09:

Make I join maut ask too. Why did Jesus down play on satan but Christians even after IMG warmed no to do it, are bent on doing it?

I don't get your question here.

I was referring to overcoming by the word of our testimonies;

Revelation 12 v 11;

11 They have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; and they did not love their lives so as to shy away from death.


The expose on the secrets of the kingdom of darkness and numerous testimonies on victories are replete in those books.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 9:17pm On Aug 21, 2019
OkCornel:


Cheers...

Here's the download link;
https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-books-of-enoch-e26875656.html
Do you want us to read then analyze it?
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 9:18pm On Aug 21, 2019
Anas09:

Do you want us to read then analyze it?

Yes. It's 433 pages
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 9:22pm On Aug 21, 2019
OkCornel:


I don't get your question here.

I was referring to overcoming by the word of our testimonies;

Revelation 12 v 11;

11 They have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; and they did not love their lives so as to shy away from death.


The expose on the secrets of the kingdom of darkness and numerous testimonies on victories are replete in those books.

Bros see that passage you just quoted? If we shd consider it, you by yourself wld fault Rebecca Brown's writings.

If we have overcome him, then why are we dwelling on whom we have overcomed?

My question is, why didn't Jesus stress on satan and demons? Did He ever teach about demons and demonology? No, why?

Open the thread nau make we carry our noise go there. Lol

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 9:33pm On Aug 21, 2019
Anas09:

Bros see that passage you just quoted? If we shd consider it, you by yourself wld fault Rebecca Brown's writings.

If we have overcome him, then why are we dwelling on whom we have overcomed?

My question is, why didn't Jesus stress on satan and demons? Did He ever teach about demons and demonology? No, why?

Open the thread nau make we carry our noise go there. Lol

Oh Lord, have you read her books?

And besides, those that are also giving testimonies on this thread over their victory over various struggles, should we also disregard their testimonies?



When Jesus taught his disciples on something about something in Matthew 17 v 21. What was it about?

Jesus also mentioned something about casting a demon out, but if the host remains empty, the demon will come back with 7 others stronger than itself, and the latter state of that person would be worse than the former... What exactly was Jesus teaching his disciples concerning that?
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 9:40pm On Aug 21, 2019
Anas09:

Bros see that passage you just quoted? If we shd consider it, you by yourself wld fault Rebecca Brown's writings.

If we have overcome him, then why are we dwelling on whom we have overcomed?

My question is, why didn't Jesus stress on satan and demons? Did He ever teach about demons and demonology? No, why?

Open the thread nau make we carry our noise go there. Lol

We can use this one;
https://www.nairaland.com/1080843/book-enoch-jesus-quoted-it#81479661
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:51pm On Aug 21, 2019
OkCornel:
overgrown kid, stay off my mentions..
Are you alright at all tonight. Who you using overgrown kid to, hmm? Did someone stir craze, mix into food for you to eat tonight ni? Is that why you're talking or typing out of turn, erhn? See me, see "arinfin" trouble...

OkCornel:
I guess we should also discount Paul's tale of being caught up into heaven, or the revelation of John as well...But since they're in the 66 books Bible you were brought up with, I guess they should have a free pass...
"I know a certain Christian man who fourteen years ago was snatched up to the highest heaven
(I do not know whether this actually happened or whether he had a vision--only God knows).
"
- 2 Corinthians 12:2

"At this point I had another vision and saw an open door in heaven. And the voice that sounded like a trumpet, which I had heard speaking to me before, said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must happen after this."
- Revelation 4:1

"No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man."
- John 3:13

Smh, someone doesnt know the difference between going and/or getting caught up in heaven whilst having a vision and actually ascending into heaven. Doesnt know the difference between being in heaven, in my body or out of my body.

If Jesus, in John 3:13 is saying no one has ascended into heaven except Him that came from there, then someone must be lying, and I know who and Co, that is.

OkCornel:
Please homosexual apologist, get off my mentions. You are a distraction
I am not a homosexual apologist. Read properly and get your facts right

It's funny you know that when LifestyleTonite and/or alBHAGDADI call you satanist, you dont like it, you start complain all over the forum about it and be bringing the attention of the moderators to it, but here you are doing a similar thing to another and enjoying calling them names here

OkCornel:
After you edited your post, you're claiming I quoted you incompletely? Do you have any iota of shame at all?
You must be delirious, high or on something else, where and when did I edit any post. I moved the comment to another and separate post but you think doing something like is a no-no

OkCornel:
Oops, not at all. Since you can boldly tell us God has nothing against monogamous loving homosexuals.
Why are you shamelessly dragging something unrelated, that is totally and completely different to discussing that the Book of Enoch is not an authentic book.

You don’t have to resort to cheapskate tactics like that, simply just to hold your own ground. If you do, as you've done, it confirms and shows how shaky your stance is and that you havent got a water-tight position

OkCornel:
Get off my mentions please. Stay on your lane.
You too get mouth to use the line "get off my mention" I've always a long time ago, perceived you, as suspect, but just tolerated you

If you really want me not mentioning you and/or posts, then stop responding to other people's post with comments associated with MuttleyLaff, because if you do comment on them posts, I wouldnt for a moment shy from coming after you. I am more than willing, if you want to be blacklisted, if you so wish, you wont be the first and certainly wont be the last
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 9:55pm On Aug 21, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Are you alright at all tonight. Who you using overgrown kid to, hmm? Did someone stir craze, mix into food for you to eat tonight ni?. Is that why you're talking or typing out of turn, erhn?

"I know a certain Christian man who fourteen years ago was snatched up to the highest heaven (I do not know whether this actually happened or whether he had a vision--only God knows)."
- 2 Corinthians 12:2

"At this point I had another vision and saw an open door in heaven. And the voice that sounded like a trumpet, which I had heard speaking to me before, said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must happen after this."
"
- Revelation 4:1

"No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man."
- John 3:13

Smh, someone doesnt know the difference between going and/or getting caught up in heaven whilst having a vision and actually ascending into heaven. Doesnt know the difference between being in heaven, in my body or out of my body.

If Jesus, in John 3:13 is saying no one has ascended into heaven except Him that came from there, then someone must be lying, and I know who and Co, that is.

I am not a homosexual apologist. Read properly and get your facts right

It's funny you know that when LifestyleTonite and/or alBHAGDADI call you satanist, you dont like it, you start complain all over the forum about it and be bringing the attention of the moderators to it, but here you are doing a similar thing to another and enjoying calling them names here

You must be delirious, high or on something else, where and when did I edit any post. I moved the comment to another and separate post but you think doing something like is a no-no

Why are you shamelessly dragging something unrelated, that is totally and completely different to discussing that the Book of Enoch is not an authentic book.

You don’t have to resort to cheapskate tactics like that, simply just to hold your own ground. If you do, as you've done, it confirms and shows how shaky your stance is and that you havent got a water-tight position

You too get mouth to use the line "get off my mention" I've always a long time ago, perceived you, as suspect, but just tolerated you

If you really want me not mentioning you and/or posts, then stop responding to other people's post with comments associated with MuttleyLaff, because if you do comment on them posts, I wouldnt for a moment shy from coming after you. I am more than willing, if you want to be blacklisted, if you so wish, you wont be the first and certainly wont be the last

According to the 66 books of the Bible;

"No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man."
- John 3:13


But then, tell us...where did Elijah ascend to in a chariot of fire? Another planet?

Where did Enoch go to after his walk with God? Mount Everest?



Over 400 years after Elijah's ascension... see what Malachi wrote concerning him;

Malachi 4 v 5-6;
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Please I ask again, where is Enoch and Elijah right now if they didn't ascend to Heaven?




Oh and wait, you are not a homosexual apologist? Who was talking on that other thread that God sees nothing wrong in a monogamous homosexual relationship?
https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult

Oh please, call your colleagues to further derail this thread. And this is not the first time you are yapping about blacklisting me. You think highly of yourself that I should feel bad if you "blacklist" me...

Go ahead and do so, it takes nothing away from me..

Are you also insinuating I'm a Satanist? Or are you itching that bad to call those 2 monikers to derail this thread further? Anyways the Pharisees accused Jesus of being in league with Beelzebub. But guess what, the Pharisees are the laughing stock right now...

Muttley, I am not a Satanist. I can never ever be one.

Now tell me, are you a homosexual apologist? Do you really believe God is in support of a monogamous homosexual relationship?
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 10:20pm On Aug 21, 2019
Yes, testimonies of Satan's defeat cannot be overemphasized cos it is one of the potent weapons of victory according to Revelation 12:11. It's the Op's testimony of victory that has drawn most of us to this thread anyway. Let's share testimonies of victories that will boost the faith of as many trusting God for their own .
God bless you.
OkCornel:


You didn't quote Shepherd00 properly, so I filtered out your response only.

And yes, I agree with you. The idea is not to read all those books and get carried away by what the kingdom of darkness can do.

The focus should be, with God on your side, you are seated far above all these principalities and powers.

And also, not to get deceived. Rebecca Brown's testimonies and the people liberated from bondage in the 80s and 90s as a result of that still reverberates till today.

At times I wonder why believers downplay the part of conquering evil by the words of their testimonies.

Cheers

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 10:25pm On Aug 21, 2019
Bodydialect57:
Yes, testimonies of Satan's defeat cannot be overemphasized cos it is one of the potent weapons of victory according to Revelation 12:11. It's the Op's testimony of victory that has drawn most of us to this thread anyway. Let's share testimonies of victories that will boost the faith of as many trusting God for their own .
God bless you.

God bless you too.

Cheers
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 10:33pm On Aug 21, 2019
OkCornel:
According to the 66 books of the Bible;

"No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man."
- John 3:13


But then, tell us...where did Elijah ascend to in a chariot of fire?

Where did Enoch go to after his walk with God?

Oh and wait, you are not a homosexual apologist? Who was talking on that other thread that God sees nothing wrong in a monogamous homosexual relationship?
https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult
I have advised you to go read properly and get your facts right. Please stop dragging in here what is unrelated to questioning the authenticity of the Book of Enoch. You know you dont have a water-tight case, that is why you cant ever open a thread, mention and invite me to it. You have to resort "ad hominem", bringing what has no connection to questioning the genuineness of the Book of Enoch. You avoid discussing the genuineness of the Book of Enoch, but instead you are guilty of whipping up public sentiment, throwing mud, hoping it will stick

OkCornel:
Oh please, call your colleagues to further derail this thread.
Oh they are my colleagues now, when it suits you to say so. Interesting.

OkCornel:
And this is not the first time you are yapping about blacklisting me.
I very much would appreciate and like to see you provide the evidence of the first time of me yapping about blacklisting, but knowing you for what you are, you've made this up, just the same way the variant books of Enoch, starting from the first centuary and subsequent ones are made up

OkCornel:
You think highly of yourself that I should feel bad if you "blacklist" me...
Was it not you bleating I should stay of your mention but now that I have no probs with granting you this wish, you behaving as if hard done. There is no pleasing some sha

OkCornel:
Go ahead and do so, it takes nothing away from me
You know your wish is my command. Just note, I'll be back and come at you, any moment you comment to posts that features MuttleyLaff in it, being directly or indirectly talked about
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 10:37pm On Aug 21, 2019
Chidorx60:
Good day sir


I really need someone to look up to at this point of my life . Thank you in anticipation of a reply
Replied you
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 10:38pm On Aug 21, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
I have advised you to go read properly and get your facts right. Please stop dragging in here what is unrelated to questioning the authenticity of the Book of Enoch. You know you dont have a water-tight case, that is why you cant ever open a thread, mention and invite me to it. You have to resort "ad hominem", bringing what has no connection to questioning the genuineness of the Book of Enoch. You avoid discussing the genuineness of the Book of Enoch, but instead you are guilty of whipping up public sentiment, throwing mud, hoping it will stick

Oh they are my colleagues now, when it suits you to say so. Interesting.

I very much would appreciate and like to see you provide the evidence of the first time of me yapping about blacklisting, but knowing you for what you are, you've made this up, just the same way the variant books of Enoch, starting from the first centuary and subsequent ones are made up

Was it not you bleating I should stay of your mention but now that I have no probs with granting you this wish, you behaving as if hard done. There is no pleasing some sha

You know your wish is my command. Just note, I'll be back and come at you, any moment you comment to posts that features MuttleyLaff in it, being directly or indirectly talked about

But you claimed I'm calling you names.

1) You didn't answer my questions on Enoch & Elijah.

2) You never answered on this thread if you believe God has nothing against a monogamous homosexual relationship. Or are you ashamed to state your position on that here?

And Muttley, here is the evidence of you claiming to blacklist me on March 10, 2018.
https://www.nairaland.com/4386878/discussion-yhwh-jewish-enki-epic/5#65717787

No be today you dey issue those kain threats abeg.


Stay off my mentions, you are distracting me.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 10:46pm On Aug 21, 2019
michaelkaroh:
Someone please explain this.
Is the Lord a white man?
Is the Saviour not bronze coloured?
Is burnished bronze not black/brown?
Please I need answers.
Thanks.


The Lord was Jewish while on earth and when He appears in His human form, He maintains that Jewish look.

That picture posted here is similar to the way He looks when He appears in His human form, though not perfect, by the grace of God I've seen Him on 4 occasions. 3 in His human form and 1 in His glorious form.

Burnished brass is like coffee brown- I think the guys who translated that Greek word to burnished brass didn't do so well, cos when I saw Him in His glory , He wasn't coffee brown, but His legs where kind of like yellowish brown and shining , that's why I used the word golden bronze in that my thread and not burnished brass.

https://www.nairaland.com/5302237/visions-celestial-beings-heaven-end.

That's a link to the thread, you can check it up.

You could also probably check the Greek word translated to burnished brass to know the real colour.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 10:50pm On Aug 21, 2019
Anas09:
A car is named after this creature. Toyota Raum. Tomorrow they will say science is not satanic.

I never even knew there was such a car. Not surprised though , cos I know a lot of inventions come from the water.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by ichuka(m): 10:55pm On Aug 21, 2019
Deu4:2.New American Standard Bible
"You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
The bible is enough for us
We are commanded not to add/subtract.
So the book of Enoch is a No No.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 10:56pm On Aug 21, 2019
OkCornel:
Are you also insinuating I'm a Satanist?
You tell me. I have read at least two people calling you names, in the same way and similar manner, you've adopted and enjoyed unneccesarily calling me names. I think there are more people calling a satanist, but those two are ones I know of recently

OkCornel:
Or are you itching that bad to call those 2 monikers to derail this thread further? Anyways the Pharisees accused Jesus of being in league with Beelzebub. But guess what, the Pharisees are the laughing stock right now...
I have never itched for any thread to be derailed. I merely brought those two names to your remembrace, because you sure know how it feels, when falsely accused and unpleasntly being called names. If you dont like that, then why are you doing same to another, hmm?

I've learned that typing insults and calling others names, are the last resort of a worried person with a shallow position and trying to appear still having it together

OkCornel:
Muttley, I am not a Satanist. I can never ever be one.
If you know you arent a Satanist, you know you can never be one. I guess, in the same way I am not a homosexual apologist. Like I've said, you've only read what you want to read the way you want to read it.

OkCornel:
Now tell me, are you a homosexual apologist? Do you really believe God is in support of a monogamous homosexual relationship?
I am not on trial. These questions have nothing to do with questioning the truthfulness of the Book(s) of Enoch
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 10:58pm On Aug 21, 2019
ichuka:
Deu4:2.New American Standard Bible
"You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
The bible is enough for us
We are commanded not to add/subtract.
So the book of Enoch is a No No.

My questions;

1) Who limited the word of God to 66 books?
2) Are you aware the first version of KJV (1611 KJV) is more than 66 books?
3) Has the Ethiopian Church with the oldest version of the bible acted wrongly by canonizing the book of Enoch?
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 10:59pm On Aug 21, 2019
The arguments aren't encouraging at all.

It is well sha, but please let's not derail the thread any longer and please do well to ignore certain people, even if they quote you.

Self control is very important in our Christian race, the Bible says every man that strives for the mastery is temperate in all things.

God bless

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