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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by Nobody: 1:55pm On Jun 29, 2019
asuustrike1:

A pastor is not a saint as implied by you. Different persons God called into ministry had issues surrounding them. From Moses of old to even apostle Paul.

And it does not mean God condoned it, or did not punish them.
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by BuddhaPalm(m): 1:56pm On Jun 29, 2019
babytoun:


Now Busola has thrown it back at him to prove innocence ....Busola seem to be saying "You are a rapist ...live with that tag ...if you disagree take me to court " ....


The path is now very tricky for the pastor ...even if he tries to clear himself of rape...it will be very difficult to prove that he did not have sex with her ...and if she proves that she was 17 then when sex happened ...it's up to the laws of the land to interpret what that means ...

Sorry, proving one's innocence is not how it's done.

Imagine if the police arrests you and says you should prove you aren't an armed robber...

Where you do even start.

I'm sure you've heard "Innocent until proven guilty"
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by drakeli: 1:56pm On Jun 29, 2019
lomprico:


I know.

the OP is trying to shield his pastor by citing nyemars case and I cited cosby's case because many people did not believe the woman that sued him, including me because of the personality he portrayed in TV.
Cosby confessed to drugging and rapping a woman. Has the pastor admitted to rapping someone? Cosby case does not fit this scenario until the pastor admits everything raped
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by BluntBoy(m): 1:58pm On Jun 29, 2019
lonelydora:
Why did Busola speak out when her close friend accused her of her waywardness and questioned the paternity of her children?

Timi should also be questioned to find out what is happening in his marriage. Women can do/say anything when they are in tight corner.

Online Mob Action without logical thinking is what I can never support.

Nigerians ranted when Stephanie Otobo and Dorcas Fapson accused the innocent men of rape. Kemi also accused a man of God, and they later came out to say it was false.

I am not exonerating the pastor because there have been some allegations too. But let's wait to hear his own side of the story.

Let the justice have it's way.

Why protest to his church when you just heard one side of the story?

NIGERIANS THINK, FORGET SOCIAL MEDIA. LET THE PARTIES SORT OUT THEMSELVES. THE CROWD IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT

Edited: For those quoting me. You all shouting about the donation on GoFundMe, all your donation won't even be equal to one Sunday service offering in only one branch. If he needs help, there are people from outside the country that will help him. See the pastor is from a wealthy home. His wife is also from a wealthy home. He also rolls with big pastors like Mensa Otabil, T.D Jakes, Bill Winston, etc.

I read the highlighted part of your post and I kept wondering about what you meant when you said that there are people from outside who can help Biodun. Help him do what exactly? Help him silence Timi and his wife or help him win a lawsuit?

You keep on reeling out Biodun's contacts as though these people can actually do anything if this rape issue blows out of proportion. Wait until some international women society latch on this news and make it their own battle and let us see if Jakes and all of his foreign contacts are able to save him.

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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by KardinalZik(m): 1:58pm On Jun 29, 2019
mrvitalis:

Shut up ...this is not the first nor the secound time

Neymar case is different ...when people that know u for long over 20 years start accusing u ,not one not two then something is wrong

Majority is not always right; majority can be backward and wrong. The fact that many people are accusing him does not prove his guilt.

Is the door to the court closed to the victim?

Social Media trials always prove negative at the end. Let the victim approach the court for justice.

BTW, why stay this long?
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by laudate: 2:01pm On Jun 29, 2019
OfficialAPCNig:
The only reason you are running your mouth is because it has never happened to you.

If someone comes out today and accuse you of raping her 10 years ago, what proof would you offer?

My problem is that some Nigerians are stupidly emotional.

Believe me, if one ediat comes out again and accuse Buhari of rape, the whole country would start running with the story without trying to be logical.

The COZA Pastor is just a casualty of sensationalism just as Buhari would be if someone wrongfully accuses him of rape.

I am against Media Trial.
It is not about being emotional. And nothing in my comments suggested that I supported media trial.

If someone makes an allegation against you that is false, common sense demands that you use all avenues to clear your name, if you value your reputation. sad Neymar did just that. And what happened? His traducers and accusers, were silenced.

I repeat: the same social media route, through which the lady made her accusations is also available for the man to use, in clearing his name. Simple. What is so difficult about that? shocked

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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by laudate: 2:03pm On Jun 29, 2019
KardinalZik:
Majority is not always right; majority can be backward and wrong. The fact that many people are accusing him does not prove his guilt.

Is the door to the court closed to the victim?

Social Media trials always prove negative at the end. Let the victim approach the court for justice.

BTW, why stay this long?
The door to the court is also NOT closed to the person who has been accused. Let him sue for defamation, if he feels the lady is lying. There is enough evidence on social media, to help him in the case.
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by safarigirl(f): 2:04pm On Jun 29, 2019
ericsmith:





You could be right or wrong ..that is why its important to go to court so the world will know the truth n justice is serve.
its obvious timi & his wife have no evidence they are hoping social media trial will auto fetch someone that might have evidence.
she was raped by her pastor n years after she was still attending the same man church,joined choir got married & raise kids in the church of a rapist. she is not saying it all
And who told you justice is served in court? If you know how many false convictions occur in court, you will not say justice is served in court, especially in Nigeria, where more often than not, justice is sold to the highest bidder.We can only hope that true justice is served

BTW, your response shows your level of ignorance as regards rape victims, and people like you should not be commenting on topics that are this sensitive.

The court will not look at Busola Dakolo's case in isolation, the way most of you are erroneously doing. The court will look at her case and juxtapose her statement with that of the other victims and come to a decision based on the testimonies of victims. That is how this case will be tried.

There are too many ignorant people commenting on this issue. This case is beyond most of your reasoning faculties and it shows.

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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by OfficialAPCNig: 2:07pm On Jun 29, 2019
laudate:

It is not about being emotional. And nothing in my comments suggested that I supported media trial.

If someone makes an allegation against you that is false, common sense demands that you use all avenues to clear your name, if you value your reputation. sad Neymar did just that. And what happened? His traducers and accusers, were silenced.

I repeat: the same social media route, through which the lady made her accusations is also available for the man to use, in clearing his name. Simple. What is so difficult about that? shocked
The onus is on you the accuser to prove your case. The COZA pastor should have kept quiet and maintain their Church policy of media silence.
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by GrifindorHouse(m): 2:08pm On Jun 29, 2019
RemiTinubu:
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shatap there and get out
not everyone has a brain full of akpu that can't reason like humans

FYI i don't even like the man's lifestyle and I'm a proud Catholic

but I'm logical in reasoning because i refuse to be a zombie
Neymer's case really taught me never to believe every rape accusation hook line sink

U mumu well well... So u mean say this Rape of thing na myth and so doesn't exist... If I say u be COZA member now.... undecided grin

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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by BabaAroba: 2:08pm On Jun 29, 2019
this is not the first time they will accused the same pastor and i can tell you the same allegation force him out of ilorin,some church member alleged him of raping and carryout abortion for choir member this is what force him out of ilorin(lenu eleri meji tabi meta lati mafi idi ododo mule) that means if he didn't go in that direction they will not accused him.

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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by safarigirl(f): 2:09pm On Jun 29, 2019
drakeli:
Cosby confessed to drugging and rapping a woman. Has the pastor admitted to rapping someone? Cosby case does not fit this scenario until the pastor admits everything raped

Cosby fits.

Cosby did not admit until he was pressured to. Do you know how many women had to accuse him before he admitted? And i am very sure his old age was a factor in his admittance.

If Fatoyinbo is confronted with all of his accusers and overwhelmongly so, he will either confess or all of the victims will finally nail him. One of them even claims she has pictures and audio recordings to prove he's a slimy dog. He better find her and use the money from COZA offerings to pay her off, because that one looks like a money hungry opportunist.

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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by RemiTinubu(f): 2:16pm On Jun 29, 2019
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GrifindorHouse:


U mumu well well... So u mean say this Rape of thing na myth and so doesn't exist... If I say u be COZA member now.... undecided grin
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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by laudate: 2:17pm On Jun 29, 2019
OfficialAPCNig:

The onus is on you the accuser to prove your case. The COZA pastor should have kept quiet and maintain their Church policy of media silence.
Ok, if that is the way you think, no problem. sad If you are falsely accused, just siddon dey look. Don't do anything you hear.

After all, not everyone has a good name or a good reputation, to protect. undecided
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by twosquare(m): 2:20pm On Jun 29, 2019
cacboy:
Though you try to hide the fact that you're defending but your effort is not enough. Reference to Neymar saga, how many ladies came out to accuse Neymar of rape? Did you say one? How about this Coza saga? The bible says "In the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter will be established." Let all be honest with ourselves, we all know the truth, just that we don't want the truth t set us free
Like in Naboth's case? Established doesn't mean truthful... I just need to correct this notion. One of the seven things the Lord hates and can't tolerate is someone who bears false witness...
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by General0847: 2:22pm On Jun 29, 2019
RemiTinubu:
Before you accuse or believe that story, remember Neymer's case

Had it been that the innocent guy has no evidence by now the world will be tearing him limb for limb
his club would have sacked him and all endorsement destroyed.

Yes you heard me right
All these would have happened without proper investigation and done out of emotions and sentiments because the world frowns at rape (including me) and sometimes take actions on the accused without investigation due to gender ish.

Nowadays desperate ladies capitalize on that to pull down any man they feel like and the world won't even ask questions and just destroy the accuser without proper investigation.

I use to join the band wagon until Neymer's case showed me how wicked some ladies can be
who would ever think that such innocent looking latino will ever accuse neymer falsely.

The world have started believing her story till neymer luckily presented a solid proof to end the allegations.
ask yourself this question.

Neymer went free because he gat some evidence to prove his innocence.
What about numerous guys in the same situation that gat nothing to back up their claims?

I rest my case here.

Please I'm not defending COZA Pastor, infact i don't like that guy but let's be logical in our reasoning SOMETIMES.

So you think this is a bandwagon thing? You are not as intelligent as you think, allow people to voice their opinions.
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by salford1: 2:28pm On Jun 29, 2019
famzynet:
Never heard of COZA or Dakolo or the said pastor until now.But the way people judge this case tells me how backward Nigeria is. Nigeria is backward because a lot of its citizens lack common reasoning. A woman claimed she was raped at about 18years inside her fathers house, raped by same man in two occasions and waited for about 20years to tell the story and everyone is throwing stones at the pastor even after he has said that the allegation is false. Why has the woman not reported to the police and taken the case to court. This brings to light similar accusations of Suleiman,Ibiyeomie of salvation ministry , Neymar etc. The police and court should handle rape cases. People should stop being judged just because someone said something . People can do or say all sort of things to trend. Did 'Jamal' of Empire not recently stage racist attack just to trend? I pity men who just believe any woman that cries rape. Pray that they don't remember you. Many have been falsely accused.Ladies should also understand that consensual sex with relationship going sour later on is not rape. I am not saying the pastor had any sexual encounter with her. It is left for the court or forensic experts to decide that. Rape victims should report promptly to the police when the evidence are there if they are serious about being raped. With evidence being there,there is no denial and the victim can be trialed and punished by the law. You don't wait for 20years before coming out saying you were naive. 17 + yrs old girl saying she was naived. Even 8 yrs,11yrs report to their mother when uncomfortably touched by someone.Waiting for 20 years before reporting means the person probably enjoyed it then or it is false.Anything short of reporting to the authority on time to me is not rape. You don't come on social media when the evidences are long gone to say you were raped and threatening the accused to sue you. Seems like putting the cart before the horse.
You obviously did not watch the video. She reported.
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by lionson3: 2:30pm On Jun 29, 2019
For me even if any of them goes to court the fact remains the supposed rape took place years ago. So on what ground will the case be hinged?
So I believe what happened between Busola & Biodun it's either consensual or frabicated.
Now who stands to gain or lose?
Thirdly, the three of them (Biodun, Timi & Busola) have a past, Timi got Biodun pregnant while in the same choir of COZA, the first time then the second time they had to be forced to get married. Then they later left the church over other issues. Hmmm!
Me I sense a good motive for Timi & his wife to get back at Biodun.
In summary, since this supposed incident took place years ago. I hereby move the motion that they both take a polygrapic test and that is if it is obtainable and admissable in court.
Otherwise, nothing happened and it's all a ruse.
For those of you taking sides, foolishness is you taking sides without getting the facts of the matter.
Timi & Busola I believe you thought this through because you're in for a bumpy ride ahead and the vehicle of your marriage may never remain the same.
Pst. Biodun, I won't judge you because I don't have to and I see no reason to.

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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by Rmpopman: 2:31pm On Jun 29, 2019
You are very correct dear, please educate them more.... if na tinubu or buhari they will keep quit
RemiTinubu:
Before you accuse or believe that story, remember Neymer's case

Had it been that the innocent guy has no evidence by now the world will be tearing him limb for limb
his club would have sacked him and all endorsement destroyed.

Yes you heard me right
All these would have happened without proper investigation and done out of emotions and sentiments because the world frowns at rape (including me) and sometimes take actions on the accused without investigation due to gender ish.

Nowadays desperate ladies capitalize on that to pull down any man they feel like and the world won't even ask questions and just destroy the accuser without proper investigation.

I use to join the band wagon until Neymer's case showed me how wicked some ladies can be
who would ever think that such innocent looking latino will ever accuse neymer falsely.

The world have started believing her story till neymer luckily presented a solid proof to end the allegations.
ask yourself this question.

Neymer went free because he gat some evidence to prove his innocence.
What about numerous guys in the same situation that gat nothing to back up their claims?

I rest my case here.

Please I'm not defending COZA Pastor, infact i don't like that guy but let's be logical in our reasoning SOMETIMES.

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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by Optionalx: 2:33pm On Jun 29, 2019
SaintLucia:
Hope you are aware of Bill Cosby rape case. He was sentenced to jail in 2019 for a rape case he committed in the 60s and 2004.
Oga Cosby case can’t happen in Nigeria...
Again Cosby case appears to be racially motivated...
How do one actually prove decades old rape case “beyond all reasonable doubts” ...
I’m not for/against anyone sha... let justice prevail
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by Femeto: 2:35pm On Jun 29, 2019
kumbalo:
COZA: WAS THERE ACTUALLY A RAPE?

Predictably, ever since Busola Dakolo "confessed" to having been raped by Pastor Biodun of COZA, the narrative has unabashedly flowed in her favour. Truth is, I can't hold an opinion just because it's popular. When a story is told, I simply put on my thinking cap, play it in my mind and take a personal stand based on the logicality or otherwise of the story . That's why we have individual brains which can neither be borrowed nor shared. So, the mob can't blackmail me into suspending my intellect. That's the truth.

Please, let me remind us that the accusation against the Pastor is rape not adultery.Anyone that reads Busola's version or watches her video without bias will definitely ask questions, especially if he or she is an adult like myself. You may not agree with me but Busola's account seems choreographed. It's very likely a script written to achieve a predetermined purpose. It was important she disclosed that she was just 16 when it happened. This means she was molested as a minor.

If absence of consent doesn't fly, minority would definitely nail the alleged predator. But who's going to argue on the veracity of this claim on age? Certainly not Pastor Biodun who has denied Busola's allegation. You see, it's not as straight forward as you think.

There's no doubt about the attempt to play the victim to elicit public sympathy. Of course, it's normal and natural for humans to tell contentious stories from their perspective with the intent to look good, or at least appear better than the other person. That's where unbiased investigation comes handy. Rape is a serious crime. Biodun cannot be prosecuted and convicted solely on the basis of Busola's own account. He must defend himself and Busola's testimony must be subjected to serious scrutiny. On what basis do you accept her version as an absolute truth and Pastor Biodun's as false?

This article is by no means intended to either justify rape, immorality or defend Pastor Biodun. It's objective is to plead for a little fairness, broad mindedness and objectivity. Most of us have at different times been blackmailed or misrepresented. Surprisingly, victims are always too willing to become culprits in the infamous Department of Gossip. I will never understand how a man enjoys sexual intercourse which is devoid of mutuality. That's how despicable rapists are. Consent is fundamental to sex. I hold both rapists and gays with the same amount of contempt.

I'm aware that celebrities, especially men of God are susceptible to blackmail. Some of the allegations may be true, no doubt. Some are definitely fabricated. The problem is that it's difficult for people in this class to defend themselves.

Again, Busola said she was raped. I sincerely have my doubt. Rape is rape basically owing to the absence of consent. Consensual sex can't be termed rape.

Look at the story again. Your mother traveled and left you with one of your sisters in the house- a duplex. The Pastor sneaked in surprisingly early in the morning and it turned out that his target was the one who opened the door for him. He must be very "lucky" to enjoy such precision of fate. As you opened the door for him, he pushed you to one of the chairs, removed his belt and had carnal knowledge of your virgin "womanhood". Satisfied, he made for his car and brought you krest to drink, ostensibly as a contraceptive and you obliged.

Wow! What a storyline!!. This movie is only good for the oft intellectually non stimulating and predictable Nollywood. I doubt if this heart rending story can pass the test of either legal or logical scrutiny in the face of an allegation of rape. It can ground consensual sex(adultery) or child abuse if the minority status of the victim at the time of the incidence is ascertained. Definitely not rape. If you read or listen well, you will agree that if sex occurred at all, it was consensual.

Only an insane man would go to a strange environment and take such a risky action without a detailed ascertainment and assurance of safety anchored on absolute privacy. Who assured the Pastor that the environment was safe enough for him to "eat" uninhibited? I'm sure without such assurance, even lesser mortals won't venture, let alone a celebrity Pastor. It's noteworthy that most genuine victims of rape suffer in the hands of trusted people who share apartment or proximity with them. For the other cases, there's always an ignored or accepted red flag. No man in the Pastor's position would just wake up and attempt a rape without first testing the waters. Generally, he must be reasonably sure of the victim's cooperation based on past and present interactions.

Busola's account wants us to believe that within split seconds, the man ascended and descended from the mountain unrestricted, went outside to his car, brought a drink, hands same to his prey, she gladly or grudgingly received and gulped as expected. Is it that easy and straight forward? What could have given him such audacity and reassurance in someone else's house? Unbelievable!

After such experience, the very next Sunday, the prey was in Church, albeit in low spirits. The fellowship continued into the future.

The second episode sounds even more weird. He drove you into an isolated part of the town, dragged you out of the passengers' side to the bonnet and successfully "ate the food" to satisfaction. No shout, no struggles!

The length of time it took for this story to be told publicly is in itself a source of suspicion. As a Lawyer, I know crimes can't be statute barred. But it's curious that a molestation she suffered in her teens was successfully managed through school until she married and became a mother of three before letting the monstrous cat out of the bag.

Sister Busola has already presented herself as having been a serious Christian from youth, in fact before she was allegedly defiled. I think there's something unchristian about her confession after many years had elapsed. Time should have healed her. If time couldn't, she could have sought counsel aimed at healing and forgiveness. Thankfully, the molestation didn't prevent her from loving her husband and giving him three beautiful kids.

If forgiveness was impossible (as unchristian as it is), she should have sought the prosecution of her assailant. I can't fathom what the resort to media trial is intended to achieve. Is it healing, forgiveness or vengeance?

Friends, let's stop unnecessary pontification. There's definitely something about this scandal hiding very safely from us.

If you are a Christian, pray for Pastor Biodun, Sister Busola, her husband and children. It's as serious as that.

Omen Bassey©
I wonder if you have a conscience was that the first time he was going to their house. He even met her mother at home once. He was more like a father figure to her.
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by jahlove4jah: 2:36pm On Jun 29, 2019
I think it is wise to allow enough time to pass so that we can possibly hear from both the accused and the accuser. The accused needs to brace up and ear himself just as Neymar did. Else it will be logical to assume he is guilty as accused. I have my reservation about his morals as a professed MOG since Ese called him out years back and he said he is preparing a robust reply.
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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by Kennydoc(m): 2:39pm On Jun 29, 2019
RemiTinubu:
do you know how many ladies that neymer have forked that would have come out to falsely solidify the false allegations if neymer didn't tender a solid evidence?

my dear I'm not in anyway in support of rape but many evil women are capitalizing on the society stand on it to bring many men down because that's the only accusation capable of bring a man down totally without investigation.
ok just see how everyone is destroying the man
tomorrow if he's proven innocent his image will never be the same.

Was Apostle Suleiman not accused by Otobo? Why didn't his case generate this much noise against him on social media? Did you hear any other person mention that Suleiman slept with her? In Pastor Biodun's case, there are just so many people recounting their experiences now, and he's supposed to be a pastor. I agree he most likely didn't rape any of the other women accusing him, but why must a pastor be that wayward?
Even if it wasn't a forced sex he had with Busola Dakolo, the fact that the girl was a minor then still nails him.

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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by SheikhMuniru(m): 2:39pm On Jun 29, 2019
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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by PAQ(m): 2:40pm On Jun 29, 2019
famzynet:
Never heard of COZA or Dakolo or the said pastor until now.But the way people judge this case tells me how backward Nigeria is. Nigeria is backward because a lot of its citizens lack common reasoning. A woman claimed she was raped at about 18years inside her fathers house, raped by same man in two occasions and waited for about 20years to tell the story and everyone is throwing stones at the pastor even after he has said that the allegation is false. Why has the woman not reported to the police and taken the case to court. This brings to light similar accusations of Suleiman,Ibiyeomie of salvation ministry , Neymar etc. The police and court should handle rape cases. People should stop being judged just because someone said something . People can do or say all sort of things to trend. Did 'Jamal' of Empire not recently stage racist attack just to trend? I pity men who just believe any woman that cries rape. Pray that they don't remember you. Many have been falsely accused.Ladies should also understand that consensual sex with relationship going sour later on is not rape. I am not saying the pastor had any sexual encounter with her. It is left for the court or forensic experts to decide that. Rape victims should report promptly to the police when the evidence are there if they are serious about being raped. With evidence being there,there is no denial and the victim can be trialed and punished by the law. You don't wait for 20years before coming out saying you were naive. 17 + yrs old girl saying she was naived. Even 8 yrs,11yrs report to their mother when uncomfortably touched by someone.Waiting for 20 years before reporting means the person probably enjoyed it then or it is false.Anything short of reporting to the authority on time to me is not rape. You don't come on social media when the evidences are long gone to say you were raped and threatening the accused to sue you. Seems like putting the cart before the horse.

The most sensible thing i have read since this whole brouhaha! The police is where she should go to, not social media.

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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by akdjr(m): 2:42pm On Jun 29, 2019
You have spoken well, all that need to be done to know the truth is just to take the both of them to a shrine (I can recommend one) so as to swear to the allegations. If u take this to court, a good lawyer can defend someone that committed such crime and go free. Worst still is to ask both to swear by the Bible. author=RemiTinubu post=79770260]Before you accuse or believe that story, remember Neymer's case

Had it been that the innocent guy has no evidence by now the world will be tearing him limb for limb
his club would have sacked him and all endorsement destroyed.

Yes you heard me right
All these would have happened without proper investigation and done out of emotions and sentiments because the world frowns at rape (including me) and sometimes take actions on the accused without investigation due to gender ish.

Nowadays desperate ladies capitalize on that to pull down any man they feel like and the world won't even ask questions and just destroy the accuser without proper investigation.

I use to join the band wagon until Neymer's case showed me how wicked some ladies can be
who would ever think that such innocent looking latino will ever accuse neymer falsely.

The world have started believing her story till neymer luckily presented a solid proof to end the allegations.
ask yourself this question.

Neymer went free because he gat some evidence to prove his innocence.
What about numerous guys in the same situation that gat nothing to back up their claims?

I rest my case here.

Please I'm not defending COZA Pastor, infact i don't like that guy but let's be logical in our reasoning SOMETIMES. [/quote]

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Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by oluwasegun007(m): 2:43pm On Jun 29, 2019
bitingcool:


God forbids it happens..but in such a case, I will immediately take that child to the hospital, to determine if the allegation is true...was she disvirgined? An observation of a broken hymen will be evident, was she raped, perhaps evidence of sexual encounter will still be in her vagina. From there, security will be dispatched to get the guy and his own story.....the world we live in now is a world of information and evidence...if you don't have that.... nothing can be brought against you

I wasn't there, you weren't there, so how can we believe any of them.

a few weeks ago , someone said one of her kids was not by Timi dakolo that it was d pastor that sired the child. 3 weeks after she is sending rape accusations. He may have raped her or not, I repeat, I wasn't there but this lady is not as innocent as she claims. I'm convinced to believe they have both been having sex for a long time and she has an axe to grind... Time will tell. The only person that will really suffer will be her husband because the accuser and accusee have something we the spectators don't know about...in some weeks now , we will move to another scandal.
Let them still conduct paternity tests on the kids first cos that allegation sparked something in the woman.

True talk.
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by OmoEpe(m): 2:47pm On Jun 29, 2019
safarigirl:
My friend, this is not a one-off case

There are multiple accusations and all of these women cannot be liars. Neymar was a one-off, the scenarios are different

Fatoyinbo can be compared to Bill Cosby who had multiple victims. You should learn to be objective and reason properly.

How can only one man be accused of the same crime by multiple women? Do Ese Walters and Timi's wife attend the same school? Where do they know each other from? How can both of them, and more accuse only Fatoyinbo? Did they not see others like Adefarasin and Oyakhilome? Why are those ones not targets of rape accusers?

A lot of you have poor reasoning and it shows, when you make such inane comparisons.

Accuse him of immortality due to various complaints I will agree with you. Rape NO. At 17/18yrs raped you in your father's house with your sister upstairs left for his car outside to get you contraceptive, yet on another day drove you to a secluded area had sex with you in the car, both of you still had sex on the car bonnet and yet you call it rape?

Please distinguish between his being immoral and being labelled a rapist. They are both 2 different things

The story can't fly with an analytical minded individual. It's meant to appeal to the senseless mob and unfortunately it has achieved it's aim

FYI I am not a fan of Pastor Biodun cos of his unnecessary ostentatious lifestyle but I won't suspend my common sense just because of my dislike for his lifestyle.

IT ISN'T RAPE HE IS GUILTY OF BUT IMMORALITY WHICH ISN'T SAME WITH COSBY AND NOT A CRIMINAL OFFENCE
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by TruthHurts100: 2:50pm On Jun 29, 2019
RemiTinubu:
Before you accuse or believe that story, remember Neymer's case

Had it been that the innocent guy has no evidence by now the world will be tearing him limb for limb
his club would have sacked him and all endorsement destroyed.

Yes you heard me right
All these would have happened without proper investigation and done out of emotions and sentiments because the world frowns at rape (including me) and sometimes take actions on the accused without investigation due to gender ish.

Nowadays desperate ladies capitalize on that to pull down any man they feel like and the world won't even ask questions and just destroy the accuser without proper investigation.

I use to join the band wagon until Neymer's case showed me how wicked some ladies can be
who would ever think that such innocent looking latino will ever accuse neymer falsely.

The world have started believing her story till neymer luckily presented a solid proof to end the allegations.
ask yourself this question.

Neymer went free because he gat some evidence to prove his innocence.
What about numerous guys in the same situation that gat nothing to back up their claims?

I rest my case here.

Please I'm not defending COZA Pastor, infact i don't like that guy but let's be logical in our reasoning SOMETIMES.

God go judge you all.
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by GodSaklek(m): 2:54pm On Jun 29, 2019
RemiTinubu:
Before you accuse or believe that story, remember Neymer's case

Had it been that the innocent guy has no evidence by now the world will be tearing him limb for limb
his club would have sacked him and all endorsement destroyed.

Yes you heard me right
All these would have happened without proper investigation and done out of emotions and sentiments because the world frowns at rape (including me) and sometimes take actions on the accused without investigation due to gender ish.

Nowadays desperate ladies capitalize on that to pull down any man they feel like and the world won't even ask questions and just destroy the accuser without proper investigation.

I use to join the band wagon until Neymer's case showed me how wicked some ladies can be
who would ever think that such innocent looking latino will ever accuse neymer falsely.

The world have started believing her story till neymer luckily presented a solid proof to end the allegations.
ask yourself this question.

Neymer went free because he gat some evidence to prove his innocence.
What about numerous guys in the same situation that gat nothing to back up their claims?

I rest my case here.

Please I'm not defending COZA Pastor, infact i don't like that guy but let's be logical in our reasoning SOMETIMES.


I prayed that this should befall your present or future female kids or any female member of your families,they should be rape at tender age... Useless lady
Re: COZA Pastor's Rape Accusation: Before You Join The Band Wagon, Neymar Case Study by TemmyT002(m): 2:55pm On Jun 29, 2019
Surely, Jungle Justice is not only done on the streets. It is done on the internet by people with dirty and very dried skeletons in their own cupboards.

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