UnitedFront:


Do some of you really want peace at all? I will continue to be saying it, most of you ranting online on this issue are not interested in finding a lasting solution to the problem, you just enjoy the tension, the heat. The man made his point and intention simple and clear but you're reading another meaning into it. What do you guys want exactly?

Herdsman, no RUGA for u people in eastern Nigeria.

PrecisionFx:


Nothing like RUGA in eastern Nigeria.


U can bring those poor unfortunate innocent herdschildren n Herdsmen from the wilderness n house dem in the north

Statements like the emboldened will always provoke any serious and focus govt/leader to impose proposed policy on people like you, most esp if such is genuine and coherent.
The only excuse for your adamance is just that foreigners will take your land but will not cease the fact that u will eat cow today and your people will make profit out of it today, regardless of where you come from.
Mind you, those guys (the ones that are Nigerians sha) have the right to do legitimate business in ANY part of the country, even in your father's house if they have good business terms with him, u can ask any lawyer that is sound around you.

Boyooosa:


They almost don't have. They live 80% of their lives in the wilderness.
But the truth is they were born just like u or me, they were just unfortunate to be delivered into wrong hands...bad parenting, ignorance, illiteracy, quite unfortunate.
Worst still, the owners of those cows they roam after are billionaires/millionaires but they don't care. Their own children either school in abroad or are busy squandering the Ill gotten money in Nigerian clubs.
The unfortunate innocent kids roam around the wilderness without anybody caring for them. Should we consider that as their own fate and forget about them?
They look tattered, they stink, they look alien, tgey beg for money (N50 is their highest expected bill), they don't know anything about hope, they are more of animal natured than human but still they were born like u n I. They understand COW language better than any foreign language to them, the reason they take revenge when anything happens to their best FRIENDS. Nobody cares. Almajiris lifestyle is 100% better than theirs. Their masters don't want them to know that life is good out here, at least better than living with snakes and battling with scorpion bites everyday of their lives. Should we leave them to this sad fate or we do something in our own capacity? If we do, Mother Nature will bless us and if we ignore, we will continue to live with the terror that follows the abandonment.
The riches are taking advantage of their unfortunate innocence, govt is trying to fix the problem in their own low capacity, myopic victims (Nigerians) are wailing.
Is it not better to bring those kids out of the Bush and tell them that kids don't follow animals in the bush for a living in America?
RUGA, either favorable to any region or not, if it can bring those kids out of Bush and offer them a good life, there would be no herdsmen in the bush those wicked people will share guns to, for killing. Think about it.

Herdsman, let the north bring those kids out of the Bush n give them RUGA.

Boyooosa:


Statements like the emboldened will always provoke any serious and focus govt/leader to impose proposed policy on people like you, most esp if such is genuine and coherent.
The only excuse for your adamance is just that foreigners will take your land but will not cease the fact that u will eat cow today and your people will make profit out of it today, regardless of where you come from.
Mind you, those guys have the right to do legitimate business in ANY part of the country, even in your father's house if they have good business terms, u can ask any lawyer that is sound around you.

Herdsman. Do u think we are stupid like Taraba, Benue, n Jos people u have cleansed from their land and replaced dem with Fulani from other countries? We are far too smart for u.

Yes i will eat cow today in the afternoon, I usually cook rice with it and my people will make profits from it as well, same way u Fulani people will also buy other goods we import, eat it today and sell it and make profits. It's no big deal.

Fulani can do legitimate business inside my father's house, I welcome that, but they have to rent my land for it just like i rent land in the north to do business, FG won't use state funds to provide my land for Fulani Herdsmen, that is an abomination.

Fulani should acquire land just like every other tribe in nigeria.

PrecisionFx:


""The government, State or Federal, has the absolute right to take and give land.""

No, the federal government has no right to take land and give land anywhere in Nigeria.

That's true, according to the Land Use Act ONLY.
The FG can and does take land. Only one FEC meeting and it's done

PrecisionFx:


Herdsman, let the north bring those kids out of the Bush n give them RUGA.

sounds funny when u call me herdsman. I'm not a herdsman professionally, I'm an accountant but I love humans.
#stopHateTrend.
Don't be eager to start war. Google the numbers of your people that died the last time, they started this way but u can introduce a dofference.

UnitedFront:


Who are Nigerians? You and your tribe? Laughing

Herdsman, Fulani aren't Nigerians

rosebowl01:
I don’t think you guys got the manipulation in his statement. He said Herdsmen should not be moving cattle from North to South, but he did not say that herdsmen should not rear cattle’s in the south. He ended the statement with the need to build Ruga - this by implication and summary is; he wants government to seize lands in all 36 states to build Ruga for his people, and he suggested that cows will not be roaming between the regions.

you're too smart are you a lawyer because I see your technicality

Boyooosa:


They almost don't have. They live 80% of their lives in the wilderness.
But the truth is they were born just like u or me, they were just unfortunate to be delivered into wrong hands...bad parenting, ignorance, illiteracy, quite unfortunate.
Worst still, the owners of those cows they roam after are billionaires/millionaires but they don't care. Their own children either school in abroad or are busy squandering the Ill gotten money in Nigerian clubs.
The unfortunate innocent kids roam around the wilderness without anybody caring for them. Should we consider that as their own fate and forget about them?
They look tattered, they stink, they look alien, tgey beg for money (N50 is their highest expected bill), they don't know anything about hope, they are more of animal natured than human but still they were born like u n I. They understand COW language better than any foreign language to them, the reason they take revenge when anything happens to their best FRIENDS. Nobody cares. Almajiris lifestyle is 100% better than theirs. Their masters don't want them to know that life is good out here, at least better than living with snakes and battling with scorpion bites everyday of their lives. Should we leave them to this sad fate or we do something in our own capacity? If we do, Mother Nature will bless us and if we ignore, we will continue to live with the terror that follows the abandonment.
The riches are taking advantage of their unfortunate innocence, govt is trying to fix the problem in their own low capacity, myopic victims (Nigerians) are wailing.
Is it not better to bring those kids out of the Bush and tell them that kids don't follow animals in the bush for a living in America?
RUGA, either favorable to any region or not, if it can bring those kids out of Bush and offer them a good life, there would be no herdsmen in the bush those wicked people will share guns to, for killing. Think about it.

their past record indicates that they forcefully enter people's farmland, destroy the farm produce, rape and kill the owners. sometimes they just enter houses to massacre owners and flee back into the bushes. how do you expect anyone to accommodate people with such brutal view of others' lives?

So that they become full Nigerian....

Is it only me that’s seeing ths Coming War, be prepared.

Boyooosa:


They almost don't have. They live 80% of their lives in the wilderness.
But the truth is they were born just like u or me, they were just unfortunate to be delivered into wrong hands...bad parenting, ignorance, illiteracy, quite unfortunate.
Worst still, the owners of those cows they roam after are billionaires/millionaires but they don't care. Their own children either school in abroad or are busy squandering the Ill gotten money in Nigerian clubs.
The unfortunate innocent kids roam around the wilderness without anybody caring for them. Should we consider that as their own fate and forget about them?
They look tattered, they stink, they look alien, tgey beg for money (N50 is their highest expected bill), they don't know anything about hope, they are more of animal natured than human but still they were born like u n I. They understand COW language better than any foreign language to them, the reason they take revenge when anything happens to their best FRIENDS. Nobody cares. Almajiris lifestyle is 100% better than theirs. Their masters don't want them to know that life is good out here, at least better than living with snakes and battling with scorpion bites everyday of their lives. Should we leave them to this sad fate or we do something in our own capacity? If we do, Mother Nature will bless us and if we ignore, we will continue to live with the terror that follows the abandonment.
The riches are taking advantage of their unfortunate innocence, govt is trying to fix the problem in their own low capacity, myopic victims (Nigerians) are wailing.
Is it not better to bring those kids out of the Bush and tell them that kids don't follow animals in the bush for a living in America?
RUGA, either favorable to any region or not, if it can bring those kids out of Bush and offer them a good life, there would be no herdsmen in the bush those wicked people will share guns to, for killing. Think about it.

Your good points are noteworthy. Nevertheless you insensitively ignored or undermined the reasons behind the widespread repugnance of RUGA. It is common widespread knowledge that the uncultured normads have interacted very poorly and badly with their host communities wherever they go. Their pompous incivility has escalated conflicts wherever they go. They trespass and violate and plunder properties of accommodating indigenes with reckless impunity as they go. For all these, you expect them to be welcomed? You must be sick to think so. If these herdsmen had a track record of peaceful coexistence with their host communities, the RUGA concept on a national scale would not have been so obnoxious. Are you going to hurt a child and same time grudge him for crying out? It takes insanity for anyone to do so! Under the present circumstance of widespread disaffection between herders and host communities therefore, the RUGA idea , laudable as it is, should , sensibly, be restricted initially to the core northern Nigeria. As hostilities fade off, there would naturally be expansion of scope.

PrecisionFx:


Herdsman. Do u think we are stupid like Taraba, Benue, n Jos people u have cleansed from their land and replaced dem with Fulani from other countries? We are far too smart for u.

Yes i will eat cow today in the afternoon, I usually cook rice with it and my people will make profits from it as well, same way u Fulani people will also buy other goods we import, eat it today and sell it and make profits. It's no big deal.

Fulani can do legitimate business inside my father's house, I welcome that, but they have to rent my land for it just like i rent land in the north to do business, FG won't use state funds to provide my land for Fulani Herdsmen, that is an abomination.

Fulani should acquire land just like every other tribe in nigeria.

I appreciate the fact that u understand my points very well but addressing me as a herdsman is a point of concern to me.
Anyway, thank God you realise that all Nigerians own nigeria and that is also supposed to be affirmes without boundaries in as much there is no trespass.
Now two options;
1, govt should establish a well coordinated ranching system or
2, they should create an enabling environment or serene atmosphere for the herdsman to do their legitimate business.
But sad, that your people detest any of the given and valid options.
The reason we are still having this issues.

FearGodinall:
He doen't actually make sense as many assumed but he's only cunninly trying to re-introduced the Ruga issue. If not,why not ranching?

Is this one OK? what's the real difference between Ranching and RUGA?

Ekpeitit:
See your head,if you don't like herdsmen in the South East why are there so many southerners in the north?
For your information there are more Igbo people in the north than Fulani or Hausa people in the South East. Check the facts before you open your smelly mouth.

how many kano villages igbo traders don go kill their indigines?abi how many land dem give igbo traders for free for northern state?we dey talk of herdsmen wey dey wipe a whole village out you dey talk igbo taders for north wey dem no even allow sell alchohol or sell pig meat for north,no be 27 27 villages fulani people kill for nimbo enugu state?

PrecisionFx:


See this lunatic, who are u trying to FooOOOool, Stop mentioning 1960, various ethnic groups have been existing here as a nation for thousands of years, long before the white man came. And before then there was no Fulani in this geographical.

Fulani are not Nigerians, if they are Nigerians, show me one state where they dominate in numbers just like IGBOS dominate the whole of enugu state.

Fulani homeland is in the mountains of Futon Jalon, pure n simple.

they dominate in adamawa to name a few... Adamawa is even a Fulani word form the name Adama, an old ruler ... Where are your facts that fulanis haven't been around since hundred of years... Dan fodio that came into the region around more than 200 years ago was not even the first Fulani in the region because they were fulanis already in the mandara and Sahel region which is now Nigeria... You are too aggressive, I am not fighting with you. Also you must not have a dominating number in a state before you belong to Nigeria.. Margi, Bura, mitchika etc are minorities in places like Borno but they are still Nigerians... What is exactly your point?

Boyooosa:


I appreciate the fact that u understand my points very well but addressing me as a herdsman is a point of concern to me.
Anyway, thank God you realise that all Nigerians own nigeria and that is also supposed to be affirmes without boundaries in as much there is no trespass.
Now two options;
1, govt should establish a well coordinated ranching system or
2, they should create an enabling environment or serene atmosphere for the herdsman to do their legitimate business.
But sad, that your people detest any of the given and valid options.
The reason we are still having this issues.

Herdsman, government should not use state funds to provide land, water n structures for a private business for a tribe in nigeria.

If any Herdsman wants a ranch, they should meet the villages n discuss with them and then most importantly pay for land or rent land like every other Nigerians

mvem:
they dominate in adamawa to name a few... Adamawa is even a Fulani word form the name Adama, an old ruler ... Where are your facts that fulanis haven't been around since hundred of years... Dan fodio that came into the region around more than 200 years ago was not even the first Fulani in the region because they were fulanis already in the mandara and Sahel region which is now Nigeria... You are too aggressive, I am not fighting with you. Also you must not have a dominating number in a state before you belong to Nigeria.. Margi, Bura, mitchika etc are minorities in places like Borno but they are still Nigerians... What is exactly your point?

Fulani do not dominate Adamawa state, there are more than 30 tribes in Adamawa n Fulani is just one of them.

In Enugu state n in the entire SE, only IGBOS exist there.


Ur Dan folio came to adamawa only 200 years ago, IGBOS have been in the east for thousands of years. This simply shows Fulani are visitors here

jlinkd78:
Nairaland filled with a lot of persons who after reading caption rush to commenting without reading d writeup all for d frenzy of first to comment. Gandollar was actually pushing for RUGA and u are hailing him. While we all agree d movt from North to South need a ban Gandollar inner mindset was laid bare once he opined RUGA as not just d way out but in his words d only way to do it. U all early commentators should as a matter of duty go back and modify ur comments.

The worst of nairalanders are people like you that after reading the content you still don't understand anything....He wants to establish RUGA in Kano which he's constitutionally and morally right to do. How does that affect your wellbeing? He went further to say Fulanis should stop moving to the south since such movement is creating chaos in the country.

The south can reject Fulanis but the north cannot because Fulanis are northerners and a lot of them are indigene of Kano state.

TELL ME, WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR PROBLEM?

PrecisionFx:





Fulani do not dominate Adamawa state, there are more than 30 tribes in Adamawa n Fulani is just one of them.

In Enugu state n in the entire SE, only IGBOS exist there.


Ur Dan folio came to adamawa only 200 years ago, IGBOS have been in the east for thousands of years. This simply shows Fulani are visitors here

i say Fulani dominate in Adamawa... Have you stayed in the core north before?... The other tribes like Hong in adamawa are minorities....read my post well, I said Dan fodio wasn't the first Fulani In the region, they have been fulanis around before him... So you igbos that claim to be jews should also see yourself as Israelites not Nigerians from your assertion

[q :-Xuote author=Boyooosa post=80447585]
Be watchful of jealous, its a killer disease.
Those 2 centres and trained 72 herdsmen don dey give u headache again....[/quote]. It seems you lack the basics of comprehension,if not what will make you think I'm jealous of a killer herdsmen wandering about that swell only their masters' pocket but they themselves wallop in abject poverty? I am only jealous of peace and justice. Gandollar is only playing mr nice and trying to reinforce the rejected ruga game which he intend to deceive the insane minds.

mvem:
i say Fulani dominate in Adamawa... Have you stayed in the core north before?... The other tribes like Hong in adamawa are minorities....read my post well, I said Dan fodio wasn't the first Fulani In the region, they have been fulanis around before him... So you igbos that claim to be jews should also see yourself as Israelites not Nigerians from your assertion

Fulani share adamawa state with many tribes like Bali and Bachama, they both have high population n not minority.

Fulani are from futon Jalon n only came to Nigeria to fight Hausa people to collect their land.

Ur cup is FooOOOool, the South will never allow u and that RUGA here

shineeye1:


Your good points are noteworthy. Nevertheless you insensitively ignored or undermined the reasons behind the widespread repugnance of RUGA. It is common widespread knowledge that the uncultured normads have interacted very poorly and badly with their host communities wherever they go. Their pompous incivility has escalated conflicts wherever they go. They trespass and violate and plunder properties of accommodating indigenes with reckless impunity as they go. For all these, you expect them to be welcomed? You must be sick to think so. If these herdsmen had a track record of peaceful coexistence with their host communities, the RUGA concept on a national scale would not have been so obnoxious. Are you going to hurt a child and same time grudge him for crying out? It takes insanity for anyone to do so! Under the present circumstance of widespread disaffection between herders and host communities therefore, the RUGA idea , laudable as it is, should , sensibly, be restricted initially to the core northern Nigeria. As hostilities fade off, there would naturally be expansion of scope.

Odisweet:


their past record indicates that they forcefully enter people's farmland, destroy the farm produce, rape and kill the owners. sometimes they just enter houses to massacre owners and flee back into the bushes. how do you expect anyone to accommodate people with such brutal view of others' lives?

Good that we realise that there is psychological problem with those guys already. It is only an animal will kill at will, rape at will and destroy at will. No right thinking person will do that, that I believe we all agree here.
I concur with the reasoning that says we can start from the north or anywhere the policy is welcomed, then with time be extended to other parts.
Quite unfortunate that slot can not be mentioned here but my simple definition for RUGA should be a coordinated ranching system established by the government, the term 'coordinated' should be capable of sacking every other fear associated if it is really genuine.

[b]This settlement is a must and to us in Kano state, it’s a task that must be done, because we must improve the quality of lives of the herdsmen so that they become full Nigerians and behave like any other good Nigerian

So from his statement, they know that the Fulani herders are not Nigerians. So y trying to make them Nigerians? Don't they have a country they came from?

Divided we live longer, together we die on time..

PrecisionFx:


Fulani share adamawa state with many tribes like Bali and Bachama, they both have high population n not minority.

Fulani are from futon Jalon n only came to Nigeria to fight Hausa people to collect their land.

Ur cup is FooOOOool, the South will never allow u and that RUGA here

lol...i have told you the truth about Adamawa but you are free to believe what you want too....what marvels me is probably you haven't even passed Abuja and you claim to have good knowledge of the North....Fulanis have coexisted with the Hausas for hundred of years and intermarrying with a fusion of their cultures....and you are too sentimental, did I mention anything about RUGA... I was trying to highlight the wrong insinuation you have about fulanis not being Nigerians... Whatever floats your boat

Sadly about 80% of the commentors doesnt comprehend Gandollar statement.

PrecisionFx:


Herdsman, government should not use state funds to provide land, water n structures for a private business for a tribe in nigeria.

If any Herdsman wants a ranch, they should meet the villages n discuss with them and then most importantly pay for land or rent land like every other Nigerians

I now understand you are so engrossed amd keen of the business aspect of it than the survival of even the subjects involved, human lives. Things you need to know in that regards as follow:
Number 1, you need to stop seeing the legal Nigerian Fulani's as foreigners.
Number 2, govt has the right to create an enabling environment for any business to thrive in the land.
3, govt can promote group or individual business of it's citizen
4, govt has right to partner with groups or individuals to achieve a business goal and promote the national economy through same.
So, now tell me the one that RUGA has trampled among all these...

Boyooosa:




Good that we realise that there is psychological problem with those guys already. It is only an animal will kill at will, rape at will and destroy at will. No right thinking person will do that, that I believe we all agree here.
I concur with the reasoning that says we can start from the north or anywhere the policy is welcomed, then with time be extended to other parts.
Quite unfortunate that slot can not be mentioned here but my simple definition for RUGA should be a coordinated ranching system established by the government, the term 'coordinated' should be capable of sacking every other fear associated if it is really genuine.

I would have commended your compromise but I am deeply concerned that you even considered hoisting RUGA in the first instance, on grieving communities without due apologies and reparations. That is insult upon injury - to say the least! And by the way, any genuine RUGA should have windows for all tribes, if state funds are to be applied.

shineeye1:


I would have commended your compromise but I am deeply concerned that you even considered hoisting RUGA in the first instance, on grieving communities without due apologies and reparations. That is insult upon injury - to say the least! And by the way, any genuine RUGA should have windows for all tribes, if state funds are to be applied.

I want to believe that cow or cattje rearing has been an open business to every interested person and I don't think it has been limited or restricted to a particular tribe or region. Its only that it is easily associated with and popular among a people, the Fulani's.
And I don't think it is in-scripted in any part of this newly proposed policy, RUGA that it's only the herdsman in the bush or Fulani people will be entitled to the benefits therein. If that is clear , then we can go further to state that, if we have the conviction that an approach or policy is credible to sort economic issue of a citizenry and as well born peace within same society, I am of the opinion that such policy is worthy of giving a try.
Me I'm just always concerned of motives and implementation, the reason I always admit the points of view of constructive critics and not imaginary antagonists.

daddytime:
E be like say Gandollar get small sense apart from wearing mobile bullion vans.

His best comment soooo far

Even when he said all herdsmen should move to Kano, some are still being mischievous.

some Nigerians are cursed

if we can have ruga in every local governments in the southern states with at least 10 polling units each in every ruga, and flood the place with bandits, alimajeris and our brothers from Togo, Sudan, Mali, Chad and Niger, even the ones in Ghana can move to our rugas here , whalai we will win every presidential elections and rule Nigeria for ever, Ruga is a must

ganThiefje surprised me on this one