^^^ brother i dint know you are still arguing with this guys that know nothing about there religion, they are all acting as if they dint see the [color=#990000]psalm 91 [/color]

Sweetnecta:

i dont eat everything. i dont blame even those who eat pork. whatever make them happy.

about your invitation, i am not interested because it is not real. but i see that you avoided Psalm 91.

Oh, I did not avoid Psalm 91; I just had a more important point for that post. If and when I feel like it, I might come back to Psalm 91. In the meantime think more about the possibility of honouring in the future that invitation to eat of the Bread of life and drink of the Water of life.

^^^ why not Answer that question about Psalm 91 first that how you guys do trying to avoid the Question, not new at all your people have been doing the same the like of Kola oloye,Alitalia,Olaadegu seyibrown and co

^^ And if I don't answer it what are you going to do?

Don't go and answer the various things that aletheia and SeyiBrown have been throwing at you people all over the place making you look ignorant of your own faith and its book.

^^^ you know what if you have much time go through the posts and check them all out alot of Question as been ask and alot of response but when it come to you guys you just turn them over and come up with another Question lol i believe you guys should just get a life and wise up from been taking advantage of by some useless pastors using your head to buy jets shame on you guys some of you cannot even afford T-fare to church but hustling for tithe shame

they all my styley styley avoid Psalm 91.

Abi jare its not new to me

LOL. Funny set of people. Styley styley ko. Your desperate questions chase away answers. imagine suggesting that psalm 91 refers to some muhamed. Did you really say psalm 91?

@Image123: why dont you tell me who is being talked about in Psalm 91.

There is a reason I mentioned Psalm 91, because I wanna use it to nail you when I bring its sister out of New Testament.


You should try to discuss Psalm 91 sometimes.


And I didnt mention Muhammad (AS). I didnt mention Jesus son of Mary (AS), either.

But I'm sure you will say that it deals with Jesus. And you will show me your proof in NT. Then rere go ruun then. I will nail you to the cross as those who are nailed.

@image123 am still waiting to see how you will defend psalm 91 and the rest of you guys Seyirbrown where are you

@Image123

Where they are going with Psalm 91 is some convoluted false argument that the crucifixion/burial/resurrection of Jesus could not have taken place because that would mean His feet would have touched stone whereas the psalm says "lest you dash your foot against a stone".

The argument is so nonsensical it is not worth spending much time on.

Enigma:

@Image123

Where they are going with Psalm 91 is some convoluted false argument that the crucifixion/burial/resurrection of Jesus could not have taken place because that would mean His feet would have touched stone whereas the psalm says "lest you dash your foot against a stone".

The argument is so nonsensical it is not worth spending much time on.

Convoluted and Nonsensical. Thank you very much. Not dash foot against stone? Whata line of arguement.

@enigma and image123; my argument would not go there. even though you opened a can of worms for yourself, which you know you cant swallow.

i have simple everyday argument in the psalm 91, since it indicates a protection of who ever it is talking about; no beating, no hurting, no 'nothing', unless you people are going to say that the it is not referring to Jesus and or that the Biblical God and His Angels cant take care of jesus as a son or prophet, and jesus being a trinity can take care of himself?

try me guys. lets discuss it, if you can handle the onslaught.

^^^
Set forth your argument concerning Psalm 91 and be done with it. Unless you really had nothing to begin with. . .and was just waiting to see what the response will be.

Enigma:

I thought it was puq you didn't eat. Anyway sha I will like to invite you to eat of the Bread of life and drink from the Fountain that never dries, the Water of life. 

He doesn't eat puq, he doesn't eat lamb.  I wonder what he eats after Ramadan   You can see the bondage some folks need to get delivered from as they honour the invitation to come and eat and be more than satisfied when they come to the fountain of life.

Sweetnecta:

^^^^^^^^ Even if Olaadegbu and his gang are wrong? Psalm 91 spoke about a man in the future. Was that man Jesus?


Olaadegbu, e36991 and others, over to you.

For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways -- Psalm 91:11
 
We know that satan recognises this as a Messianic psalm and and thereby quoted from it in seeking to tempt Jesus to bypass the cross (Matthew 4:6).  He misquoted it just as our folks from the "Other Religion" does on a regular basis, however, see the qualifier that he omitted  "in all thy ways."  Trust satanic followers to pick it up from where their master left it.

@Olaadegbu: lol. if the above is true, then Jesus of the Bible was an unbeliever!

See the disaster of your christian game? You people always expose the weakness of your game; christianity.

[Quote]« #301 on: December 16, 2010, 10:01 PM »

^^^
Set forth your argument concerning Psalm 91 and be done with it. Unless you really had nothing to begin with. . .and was just waiting to see what the response will be.[/Quote]listen here; the traffic here is not being directed by you.

look at how Olaadegbu exposed your human god by his "angel security" cartoon. if the hung guy was not guarded by the angel security, he must have been an unbeliever, making all of you who consider him to be other than what he was as frauds.

^^Stop making noise. You fake Muslim. Are you afraid? You are the one that brought up Psalm 91. So tell us about Psalm 91 or slink off this thread with your tail between your legs.

OLAADEGBU:

bal bla bla,

Self deceit is indeed an interesting phenomenon. Carry on

The God Man, fully God and fully Man was the perfect representative of man to bring us into relationship with God.  Believers are also entitled to benefit of this divine connection having angels watching over us.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1jdlsw08p0?fs=1&hl=en_GB[/flash]

Read how Peter was ministered to by angels when he was imprisoned.

[Quote]« #306 on: Today at 05:23:41 AM »

^^Stop making noise. You fake Muslim. Are you afraid? You are the one that brought up Psalm 91. So tell us about Psalm 91 or slink off this thread with your tail between your legs.
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. . .for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.[/Quote]What kind of thoughts went to the childish statement, above? Those who lived by the sword shall die by the sword. And those who lived by hanging people shall die by hanging. A good prophesy that came true, or it was hoax?


@OLAADEGBU (m): « #308 on: Today at 12:10:23 PM »
[Quote]The God Man, fully God and fully Man was the perfect representative of man to bring us into relationship with God. Believers are also entitled to benefit of this divine connection having angels watching over us.[/Quote]For what the Bible reported happened to him, it is better to be fully one, and not fully both, because the later is impossible, similar to you cant be fully a male and fully a female. Or fully ignorant and fully wise. So with all the angels watching, the jews found a way to do him in, uh? This is an unbelievable event. With such lousy angels watching, they must not have been Angel of The God Who is Firm in Power?


[QUote]<a href="
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1jdlsw08p0?fs=1&hl=en_GB" target="_blank">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1jdlsw08p0?fs=1&hl=en_GB</a>

Read how Peter was ministered to by angels when he was imprisoned.[/Quote]Lousy and inefficient angel of Baal. No wonder they beheaded the man they were charged with his safety. Olaadegbu, how do you like telling the goofball above the origin of the yorubas? Or you are not a ypruba papa?

Back to the topic at hand and let us logically disect the question before us.

Talking about Jesus Christ, His disciples and angels.

Jesus accepted worship as God:

John 20:28 states:

"Thomas said to Him, My Lord and My God!"

If Jesus is not God, as Thomas exclaimed, then why didn't Jesus correct Thomas for his "error"?  Some contend that Thomas was merely exclaiming "My Lord and My God!" as many people today do when they are surprised.  If this were true, however, Jesus would have rebuked him for taking God's name in vain.

The disciples, who lived with Jesus for three years, believed He is God, and so at many other times worshiped Him.  Jesus accepted their worship (see Matthew 28:17, Luke 5:.  Since God alone is to be worshiped (Luke 4:, why did Jesus not correct these "mistakes" if He truly is just a man like you claim him to be?  Every other man of God in the New Testament who receives worship immediately refuses the worship, declaring that God alone is to be worshiped (Acts 14: 10-16, Rev. 22:8-9).  Why didn't Jesus do this in a forceful way like His followers did? 

Therefore,

[list]
[li]Since only God is to be worshipped, and[/li]
[/list]

[list]
[li]Jesus accepted worship,[/li]
[/list]
Either,

A. Jesus sinned when accepting the worship, thus disqualifying Him as Saviour, or

B. Jesus is God

Clearly option A is unbiblical

"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." (Hebrews 4:15)

So it must be true that Jesus is God. QED

Perhaps even more striking is Hebrews 1:6, where God commands the angels to worship Jesus:

"And when He again brought the first-born into the world, He says, And let all the angels of God worship Him."

If Jesus is not God, then God is contradicting Himself when He lets the angels worship Jesus.

Now to the naysayers and gainsayers; what sayeth thou?

Sweetnecta:

What kind of thoughts went to the childish statement, above?

I repeat: stop making noise and seeking attention from Christians; you fake Muslim. You brought up Psalm 91. So tell us about Psalm 91. it is obvious you had nothing; just your shallow understanding of Islam.

^^^^^^ Ode ni e. Thats simple yoruba or ask your family to translate. You make the same silly noise of ignorance as Tonye-T made about satan which the bible gave poor thesis on. Was satan ever available before Job? I am asking the disappeared Tonye-T.

Here is a question for you; Did God say Jesus is His partner and or that Jesus is the only way to Him?

chew up on that for a long while.

Psalm 91 will come up when I am good and ready for it. Or can you deny it is predicting Jesus and then Jesus got beat up, and you said they hung him? Which is reality; PSalm 91 or what happened to Jesus? is one of them a 100% truth, or just at best an amalgamate of some truth and some lies?

Aletheia; alexis you have a long way to go. Have you learned about the Yorubas yet therefore am within my bloodline right to bear Arabic name? Is your tribe from Greece?

Sweetnecta:

Psalm 91 will come up when I am good and ready for it.

Just like I suspected. Nothing to say. An empty bluff.

@Olaadegbu: « #310 on: Yesterday at 05:27:46 PM »
[QUote]Back to the topic at hand and let us logically disect the question before us.

Talking about Jesus Christ, His disciples and angels.

Jesus accepted worship as God:

John 20:28 states:

"Thomas said to Him, My Lord and My God!"[/Quote]Iro fo iwo boy yi nfun. Sorry that I called you boy. I am not disrespecting you. Yahweh made Moses God. Jesus declared he truly has a Lord God. Now who is the lair; jesus who said he has a Lord God Who he worshiped, or you and ignorant Thomas who made him what he said he was not? Did the faith of Thomas great enough so that he did not take to his heel during the trial of Jesus? Please check your book oh you Olaadegbu of little faith.



[Quote]If Jesus is not God, as Thomas exclaimed, then why didn't Jesus correct Thomas for his "error"?  Some contend that Thomas was merely exclaiming "My Lord and My God!" as many people today do when they are surprised.  If this were true, however, Jesus would have rebuked him for taking God's name in vain.[/QUote]WHich is worse; what Thomas did or the unbelieving Jesus on the cross with his "my God, my God . . . why did you forsake me"? Just imagine if a disciple said that to Jesus when some people were beating the disciple up. Wouldnt Jesus have responded with oh you of little faith? Oh you disbeliever? Oh you an ungrateful person? Olaadegbu, shee o ri aiye lode nsinyin? The highest height of disbelief is to blame God. "my God, my God . . . why has thou forsaken me" is nothing short of it.



[Quote]The disciples, who lived with Jesus for three years, believed He is God, and so at many other times worshiped Him.  Jesus accepted their worship (see Matthew 28:17, Luke 5:.  Since God alone is to be worshiped (Luke 4:, why did Jesus not correct these "mistakes" if He truly is just a man like you claim him to be?  Every other man of God in the New Testament who receives worship immediately refuses the worship, declaring that God alone is to be worshiped (Acts 14: 10-16, Rev. 22:8-9).  Why didn't Jesus do this in a forceful way like His followers did?[/Quote]But Jesus believed and knew he was not God since he was not even qualified to be call "Good". From his own mouth he said "Your servant Jesus who You sent". Who is the liar; Jesus who said this or the disciples and you according to what you accepted? Why should Jesus be modest when the OT God was full of letting everyone know that He is definitely God and no one else is God? Omo boy, o ni alaye lati shee.



[Quote]Therefore,

   * Since only God is to be worshipped, and
   * Jesus accepted worship,[/Quote]The Buddhist worship dalil lama have exactly the same problem that you laid out here. Is dalil lama God?



[Quote]Either,

A. Jesus sinned when accepting the worship, thus disqualifying Him as Saviour, or

B. Jesus is God

Clearly option A is unbiblical[/Quote]Clearly the Bible dilly dally about things, and the above is a good example. If Jesus said that he has a Lord God Who is One, is option B not a lie? Since jesus worshiped Lord God and wept crying to Him for safety, is Option A not the  reality or are there more than 1 God?  



[Quote]"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." (Hebrews 4:15)[/Quote]Considering the above, this hebrew 4;15 is a big lie.



[Quote]So it must be true that Jesus is God. QED[/Quote]false. from the Bible, we read jesus crying up to his God. QED.



[Quote]Perhaps even more striking is Hebrews 1:6, where God commands the angels to worship Jesus:

"And when He again brought the first-born into the world, He says, And let all the angels of God worship Him."

If Jesus is not God, then God is contradicting Himself when He lets the angels worship Jesus.

Now to the naysayers and gainsayers; what sayeth thou?[/Quote]Perhaps this more like your comic posts, except that there are no pictures and no punch lines so that some of us who read humor may laugh. What did Jesus say? My God, my God . . . ., I am asking you sir, does God have a God like us the human beings He creates? Does God say "My God . . ., or praying to another God? if you close your eyes, do you imagine the real God crying out to another God?  . I bet Olaadegbu will never address these issues with any normal mind.

Consequence of running on the wrong track.

@Olaadegbu: I have one for you about the "Track".

Which is Correct; God is One Lord

or

There are three gods; yahweh, jesus and then ghost?


Which one is on the Right or Correct Track?


How do you hook up Yahweh and Jesus and ghost to form One God which jesus said sent him?

Take the correct turning that will lead you to eternal life.

Sweetnecta:

There are three gods; yahweh, jesus and then ghost?

poor lost "Arab"

Jesus loves you!

^^^^^^^^^ the funny man begged the question. I am an authentic arab by many reasons; my Yorubaness and my Islam. How are you a greek? if you said syriac, or child of Israel, I will try to introduce you to my Jewish neighbors.


The messenger (AS) states whoever speaks arabic is an arab. This is similar to what we yoruba people say; if you speak yoruba, o ti yoruba ni yen. My bride is one of those; different ethnic blood, but lagos born and speaks omo eko yoruba. You should try it sometimes.


There above, was the question for your conscience; Jesus is fully God according to you.
Ghost is fully God according to you.
Yahweh is fully God according to you.

Aletheia, how many God are there, above?

take away One God, say jesus in this case. How many God left to reckorn with?

take away another One God, say ghost in this case. How many God left to reckorn with?

Is what remain not a fully capable God? If yes, then know that what you have taken away in the two do loop process were mere gods.

Or is t possible that we can take away Yahweh and still have a God left? Will Jesus be a sufficient God if there is no Yahweh? Will Ghost be a sufficient God if there is no Yahweh? Does Yahweh need Jesus to be Yahweh? Does Jesus have independence from Yahweh?


Aletheia, this is not a crammed up classroom material!


Your soul depends on the reality of your answer. Dont let your ego stands against your Paradise.