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Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by jneutron4000: 1:42pm On Aug 02, 2019
bigfish3k:

i wouldnt reduce to ur level of abusing me - lets restrict only to facts and truths- show love to ur God by saying the truth always

ironsi proposed unitary - yoruba and north implemented it joyfully and u called it outsmart and later turn around to blame igbos - HABA
ojukwu proposed a solution in aburi accord - u joined forces and destroyed it - today nigeria remains a shithole under the rulership of yoruba and the north for over 50yrs- u still turn around to blame igbos - HABA
today every body is suffering it and we all now long for the same aburi accord that u helped destroy - since its now that u have have sense, lets all join hands to achieve it instead of all these abuses so that our children will not suffer this same fate of a shithole country

and again i never said that yorubas proposed the unitary system, i said they happily and joyfully implemented it with the north which has led to this shithole nature of nigeria
but again , if they didnt support it why implement it
between IMPLEMENTERS and PROPOSERS - who is more guilty?
stop this propaganda, first Aguiyi Ironsi did not propose it rather it was a decree which took effect immediately because he was the military head of state from 16 of January 1966 until 19 of July same year. Then he was assassinated by the Northern military led by Major Theophilus Danjuma, the Northern military seized power and since then maintained it, Ojukwu came in with Aburi accord instead of just to reverse the decree made by Ironsi and everyone control their destiny and resources but the North knowing fully well the greedines of the Igbos and how they killed their leaders such as Tafawa Balewa Never trusted Ojukwu so they maintained the Unitary system introduced by igbo Aguiyi Ironsi, even the 1999 constitution was written by Abdusallam and his Hausa fulanis brothers which only benefits them so it all that had happened, I just cant imagine why you Igbos will keep shouting Yoruba when you are the architect of the problem and misfortune in Nigeria.

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Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by Stingman: 2:02pm On Aug 02, 2019
jagorinho:


You are a fool!!! Yorubas weren't all that in the civil war except those yoruba chaps in the army, until your foolish ojukwu intended to take Lagos, most yoruba land didn't even have a direct effect of the war if not for the influx of people from your side, assuming the war was a direct threat to yoruba land, the war would be over in 8months, war is not fought by having heavy chest and guns, it is more of tactics, the kind of tactics used in defeating your advanced boyscout (soldiers) at Ore....... I repeat, if you are to fight a war be prepared mentally and physically, numerical disadvantage is not always an excuse, if Eritrea and Sparta can do it, your people can but I doubt if your people have the mental capacity to pull that off.

...but you coward, originally stated that it was the Hausa/Fulanis that defeated Igbos? I know you cowardly chameleonic type...
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by Stingman: 2:05pm On Aug 02, 2019
jneutron4000:
just for the record, western Nigeria ( We Yorubas)fed you during the war. Nobody killed little biafra children rather the biafra soldiers starved the biafra children. So Bleep off my mention you slowpoke

...you feed them in your ewedu and amala gulping dream...Why are you unstable...once you claimed that you don't feed your enemies..now you singing another song. Nobody takes you coward seriously. You Yorubas also claim that starvation is part of war...now you are changing the narrative..clumsy liar!

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Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by Ikenna0b: 2:09pm On Aug 02, 2019
jneutron4000:
as I have said that those who starved the biafra children are the biafra soldiers.

Biafran soliders were Awolowo who suggested the starvation policy since Niggerians were too incompetent to figure out how to defeat Biafran soliders despite the multiple aids they were getting and cowardly act of attacking civilians?

Biafran soliders were who contacted Cameroon and have away a portion of a land to intice and beg Cameroon to block Biafran route to sea exportation

Biafran soliders are who begged the Egyptians to shoot down every airplanes they see circulating Biafran airways.

How fucking brain dead are you? This your attempt to propaganda does not even make sense

Dude shut the Bleep up. From your write ups on this thread, it's obvious how much of an idiot you are in terms of history. Keep fucking quiet if you're actually dumb in what it is you are typing instead of getting your ass handed to you by multiple people on this exact topic.
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by bigfish3k: 2:17pm On Aug 02, 2019
jneutron4000:
stop this propaganda, first Aguiyi Ironsi did not propose it rather it was a decree which took effect immediately because he was the military head of state from 16 of January 1966 until 19 of July same year. Then he was assassinated by the Northern military led by Major Theophilus Danjuma, the Northern military seized power and since then maintained it, Ojukwu came in with Aburi accord instead of just to reverse the decree made by Ironsi and everyone control their destiny and resources but the North knowing fully well the greedines of the Igbos and how they killed their leaders such as Tafawa Balewa Never trusted Ojukwu so they maintained the Unitary system introduced by igbo Aguiyi Ironsi, even the 1999 constitution was written by Abdusallam and his Hausa fulanis brothers which only benefits them so it all that had happened, I just cant imagine why you Igbos will keep shouting Yoruba when you are the architect of the problem and misfortune in Nigeria.

Ironsi still left the regions to exist - true or false?
the implementation started with state creation that killed the regions

how can ojukwu abrogate the decree - was he the head of state?
aburi accord means every body on their own - how does north not trusting ojukwu affect any body since every body will be on their own

just admit that ur people bleeped up in the case of not supporting aburi accord as a remedy - all these clamour and activism wouldnt have been necessary
if the yorubas had not supported the north there is no way they would have flourished with the impunity and sufferings going on today
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by Nobody: 2:20pm On Aug 02, 2019
wifeesnatcher:



imagine this Libya deportee. your kinsman brought us to where we are today. if Nigerian maintained the regional system of govt we won't be in this mess that we are today

so the political misfortune Nigerian nations are going through today most especially southwest is because of you people foolishness in the past


Madame wife snatcher, Yakubu Gowon ended resource control n regional government
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by Nobody: 2:22pm On Aug 02, 2019
jneutron4000:
stop this propaganda, first Aguiyi Ironsi did not propose it rather it was a decree which took effect immediately because he was the military head of state from 16 of January 1966 until 19 of July same year. Then he was assassinated by the Northern military led by Major Theophilus Danjuma, the Northern military seized power and since then maintained it, Ojukwu came in with Aburi accord instead of just to reverse the decree made by Ironsi and everyone control their destiny and resources but the North knowing fully well the greedines of the Igbos and how they killed their leaders such as Tafawa Balewa Never trusted Ojukwu so they maintained the Unitary system introduced by igbo Aguiyi Ironsi, even the 1999 constitution was written by Abdusallam and his Hausa fulanis brothers which only benefits them so it all that had happened, I just cant imagine why you Igbos will keep shouting Yoruba when you are the architect of the problem and misfortune in Nigeria.

Stop deceiving ur self publicly.

Aguiyi maintained resource control n regional government (which he renamed provinces) until his death in July 1966. Gowon took over and then he created states, thus ending the regional government and also he ended regional government.
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by jneutron4000: 2:38pm On Aug 02, 2019
Ikenna0b:


Biafran soliders were Awolowo who suggested the starvation policy since Niggerians were too incompetent to figure out how to defeat Biafran soliders despite the multiple aids they were getting and cowardly act of attacking civilians?

Biafran soliders were who contacted Cameroon and have away a portion of a land to intice and beg Cameroon to block Biafran route to sea exportation

Biafran soliders are who begged the Egyptians to shoot down every airplanes they see circulating Biafran airways.

How fucking brain dead are you? This your attempt to propaganda does not even make sense

Dude shut the Bleep up. From your write ups on this thread, it's obvious how much of an idiot you are in terms of history. Keep fucking quiet if you're actually dumb in what it is you are typing instead of getting your ass handed to you by multiple people on this exact topic.
you are very foolish. The food items from western region and aids from outside Nigeria were not getting to the civilians down in the eastern because biafra soldiers were seizing them. Your foolishness does not want to acknowledge that Yorubas were feeding you during the war and just we placed food blockage because biafra soldiers are not allowing it to get to biafra Civilians. If not for lack of wisdom and always chest beating, who goes to war without adequate preparation? Igbo of course.

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Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by Gandollaar(f): 2:43pm On Aug 02, 2019
ElsonMorali:


I had to go back and re-read my own post to see if I made any statements to warrant your post.

I never said Sowore would win the election, neither did I imply the revolution is ethnic or religious. Or am I missing something?
You were concerned about if people would say sowore was protesting because he lost election and is now talking about a new order so I merely implied it would be unlikely since nobody expected sowore to win the election I then went on to express my own fears which could be tagging the protest an ethnic rebellion.
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by PierreAbutu(m): 2:46pm On Aug 02, 2019
NSNA:
What Revolution?

A revolution cannot take place in Nigeria because it is not a nation, but a country of many nations. Revolution often takes place in a nation where the people are united by common descent, history, culture, or language.

Nigeria has many nations, including the Yoruba, Hausa and Fulani, Ibo, Ijaw, Nupe, Tiv, Kanuri, Efik/Ibibio and others. Nigeria, is thus, a multicultural country. The best that can happen is ethnically motivated violence which will finally lead to the dissolution of the country.

Revolution is closely affiliated with a nation and has never happened to a country.

Consider, for instance the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, was a country of four nations, including England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Not once did they ever experience a revolution, but several ethnically motivated rebellion that cumulated in the civil war between Ireland and England in 1922 which led to the Republic of Ireland breaking away from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

After Ireland left the United Kingdom, it was yet another ethnically motivated rebellion in Scotland that led to the introduction of the devolved administrations in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland with each having total control of its military, police, court, mineral and natural resources as well as revenue from taxation. They still have separate football teams and different currency designs. They had no revolution because the United Kingdom isn't a nation, but a country of many nations.

Once more, it was because the United Kingdom is a country of many nations that led the Northern Ireland to take up arms, another rebellion, against the England, until the intervention of the United States that eventually led to the Good Friday Agreement, which enables Northern Ireland to govern itself as a self governing region, independent of the Federal Government of the United Kingdom.

The United Kingdom has, consequently, never experienced a revolution because it is not a nation, but a country of many nations. The nations therein were always antagonizing one another until they all adopted regionalism.

However, the opposite is the case with the United States of America. A revolution was possible in the United States because seven people, including the English, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and Belgian, left their respective nations in Europe and mass migrated to the United States in order to escape religious and political persecutions in their respective countries.

When these seven immigrants got to the United States, they exterminated the native Americans and adopted among other things Christianity as their preferred religion, English as their language and democracy based on Federalism as their guiding principle of governance. They therefore became a nation of immigrants united by common descent (came from Europe), common history (escaped from religious and political persecutions), the common language (adopted the English language), inhabiting a particular territory - the United States of America. In this example, a revolution was possible in the United States and still remains one after the American revolution of 1776.

Also, the revolution in France became possible because France is not a country, but a nation of French-speaking people united by common descent, history, culture and language. Being a nation, the French revolution of 1789 happened, yet the nation did not split up.

American Revolution (1775-1783); French Revolution (1789-1999); Haitian Revolution by the Yoruba descent (1791-1804); Serbian Revolution (1804-1835); all happened because the people were united by common descent, history, culture and language.

Revolution cannot, therefore, happen in Nigeria because the people do not share common descent, history, culture and language. The Yoruba, the Ibo, the Hausa, the Kanuri, the Ijaw, the Fulani and others have no common descent, history, culture and language. Nigeria is a country of many nations. The worst thing that will happen is another civil war, which will finally break up the country or restructure it back to the regional system.

Whilst no revolution will happen in Nigeria, a revolution is, nevertheless, possible in Yorubaland, Iboland and in the Hausa and Fulani land. These are nations within Nigeria.

The Kiriji war in Yorubaland, which took place in 1878 and lasted for about 16 years, was a revolution in Yorubaland against Ibadan. The revolution was possible because Yorubaland is a nation with a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture and language. After the revolution, Yorubaland still remains one indivisible nation.

It is, therefore, unreasonable for the Yoruba Liberals to be screaming for a revolution in Nigeria. They are acting with the Ibo and Sowore, an Ijaw citizen, to distract the Young Yoruba who desires a return to the regional government or the break up of Nigeria.

COPYRIGHT: Adeyinka Grandson.

https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=890285234664845&story_fbid=893746524318716


I don't dispute all you have said, but just wait for............a BLOODY COUP b4 2023 cheesy
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by jagorinho: 2:49pm On Aug 02, 2019
Stingman:


...but you coward, originally stated that it was the Hausa/Fulanis that defeated Igbos? I know you cowardly chameleonic type...
Pls put a quote where I made mention of what you typed above, if not your foolishness is underrated
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by nwanyionitsha: 4:06pm On Aug 02, 2019
wifeesnatcher:


ode! Igbo are the misfortune here and I'm glad you enjoyed the consequence of that dumb and lack of foresight move by your kinsman in 1970 and 2016 to 2018 respectively


how far with Biafra actualization? dummy everywhere
See this ones.
Backstabbers
Awos son about to backstab his sister in bb9ja.
Tufia

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Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by ElsonMorali: 8:55pm On Aug 02, 2019
Gandollaar:
You were concerned about if people would say sowore was protesting because he lost election and is now talking about a new order so I merely implied it would be unlikely since nobody expected sowore to win the election I then went on to express my own fears which could be tagging the protest an ethnic rebellion.

Oh I get it now. It doesn't matter though cos that's what the government will charge him for when they arrest him.

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Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by Ikenna0b: 12:44am On Aug 03, 2019
jneutron4000:
you are very foolish. The food items from western region and aids from outside Nigeria were not getting to the civilians down in the eastern because biafra soldiers were seizing them. Your foolishness does not want to acknowledge that Yorubas were feeding you during the war and just we placed food blockage because biafra soldiers are not allowing it to get to biafra Civilians. If not for lack of wisdom and always chest beating, who goes to war without adequate preparation? Igbo of course.

This nigga post just already said how poorly educated you are. Nigga go read history before coming up here to write bullshit. Some of us are actually educated on the topic you writing lies on. Wtf is this rubbish you wrote? Nigga you dumb
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by jneutron4000: 1:03am On Aug 03, 2019
Ikenna0b:


This nigga post just already said how poorly educated you are. Nigga go read history before coming up here to write bullshit. Some of us are actually educated on the topic you writing lies on. Wtf is this rubbish you wrote? Nigga you dumb
you using Nigga shows how foolish you are. Bleep off my mention idiot.
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by jneutron4000: 1:03am On Aug 03, 2019
Ikenna0b:


This nigga post just already said how poorly educated you are. Nigga go read history before coming up here to write bullshit. Some of us are actually educated on the topic you writing lies on. Wtf is this rubbish you wrote? Nigga you dumb
you using Nigga shows how foolish you are. Bleep off my mention idiot
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by Ikenna0b: 1:05am On Aug 03, 2019
jneutron4000:
you using Nigga shows how foolish you are. Bleep off my mention idiot

Monkey
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by jneutron4000: 1:05am On Aug 03, 2019
Ikenna0b:


Monkey
your father
Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by Saucyxo: 9:21pm On Aug 03, 2019
NSNA:
What Revolution?

A revolution cannot take place in Nigeria because it is not a nation, but a country of many nations. Revolution often takes place in a nation where the people are united by common descent, history, culture, or language.

Nigeria has many nations, including the Yoruba, Hausa and Fulani, Ibo, Ijaw, Nupe, Tiv, Kanuri, Efik/Ibibio and others. Nigeria, is thus, a multicultural country. The best that can happen is ethnically motivated violence which will finally lead to the dissolution of the country.

Revolution is closely affiliated with a nation and has never happened to a country.

Consider, for instance the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, was a country of four nations, including England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Not once did they ever experience a revolution, but several ethnically motivated rebellion that cumulated in the civil war between Ireland and England in 1922 which led to the Republic of Ireland breaking away from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

After Ireland left the United Kingdom, it was yet another ethnically motivated rebellion in Scotland that led to the introduction of the devolved administrations in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland with each having total control of its military, police, court, mineral and natural resources as well as revenue from taxation. They still have separate football teams and different currency designs. They had no revolution because the United Kingdom isn't a nation, but a country of many nations.

Once more, it was because the United Kingdom is a country of many nations that led the Northern Ireland to take up arms, another rebellion, against the England, until the intervention of the United States that eventually led to the Good Friday Agreement, which enables Northern Ireland to govern itself as a self governing region, independent of the Federal Government of the United Kingdom.

The United Kingdom has, consequently, never experienced a revolution because it is not a nation, but a country of many nations. The nations therein were always antagonizing one another until they all adopted regionalism.

However, the opposite is the case with the United States of America. A revolution was possible in the United States because seven people, including the English, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and Belgian, left their respective nations in Europe and mass migrated to the United States in order to escape religious and political persecutions in their respective countries.

When these seven immigrants got to the United States, they exterminated the native Americans and adopted among other things Christianity as their preferred religion, English as their language and democracy based on Federalism as their guiding principle of governance. They therefore became a nation of immigrants united by common descent (came from Europe), common history (escaped from religious and political persecutions), the common language (adopted the English language), inhabiting a particular territory - the United States of America. In this example, a revolution was possible in the United States and still remains one after the American revolution of 1776.

Also, the revolution in France became possible because France is not a country, but a nation of French-speaking people united by common descent, history, culture and language. Being a nation, the French revolution of 1789 happened, yet the nation did not split up.

American Revolution (1775-1783); French Revolution (1789-1999); Haitian Revolution by the Yoruba descent (1791-1804); Serbian Revolution (1804-1835); all happened because the people were united by common descent, history, culture and language.

Revolution cannot, therefore, happen in Nigeria because the people do not share common descent, history, culture and language. The Yoruba, the Ibo, the Hausa, the Kanuri, the Ijaw, the Fulani and others have no common descent, history, culture and language. Nigeria is a country of many nations. The worst thing that will happen is another civil war, which will finally break up the country or restructure it back to the regional system.

Whilst no revolution will happen in Nigeria, a revolution is, nevertheless, possible in Yorubaland, Iboland and in the Hausa and Fulani land. These are nations within Nigeria.

The Kiriji war in Yorubaland, which took place in 1878 and lasted for about 16 years, was a revolution in Yorubaland against Ibadan. The revolution was possible because Yorubaland is a nation with a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture and language. After the revolution, Yorubaland still remains one indivisible nation.

It is, therefore, unreasonable for the Yoruba Liberals to be screaming for a revolution in Nigeria. They are acting with the Ibo and Sowore, an Ijaw citizen, to distract the Young Yoruba who desires a return to the regional government or the break up of Nigeria.

COPYRIGHT: Adeyinka Grandson.

https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=890285234664845&story_fbid=893746524318716

Hello Hi sorry to bother you!

I know you didn't write this lovely piece but I would just like to clear up some small misinformation about Irish history.

The Irish people did not have a revolution against the British. This analysis makes it seem like... Ireland was always a part of the UK and they just chose to rebel. Similar to Nigeria, Ireland is a country that was colonised by the English and they had a war of independence. As lovely as this piece is, it has no relevance to this case. It wasn't a "civil war" it was a war of independence.

Northern Ireland didnt take up war with the UK because it's a country of many nations. Northern Ireland took war with the UK because the Irish people in their own country were being discriminated against. The Good Friday agreement in terms of rebellion gave ancestral Irish people the right to posses either British, Irish or both citizenship. It also states that Irish people would be not treated as foreigners in any British territory.

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Re: Revolution Now - Sowore Vs Adeyinka Grandson by NSNA: 11:54am On Aug 04, 2019
Saucyxo:


Hello Hi sorry to bother you!

I know you didn't write this lovely piece but I would just like to clear up some small misinformation about Irish history.

The Irish people did not have a revolution against the British. This analysis makes it seem like... Ireland was always a part of the UK and they just chose to rebel. Similar to Nigeria, Ireland is a country that was colonised by the English and they had a war of independence. As lovely as this piece is, it has no relevance to this case. It wasn't a "civil war" it was a war of independence.

Northern Ireland didnt take up war with the UK because it's a country of many nations. Northern Ireland took war with the UK because the Irish people in their own country were being discriminated against. The Good Friday agreement in terms of rebellion gave ancestral Irish people the right to posses either British, Irish or both citizenship. It also states that Irish people would be not treated as foreigners in any British territory.

Noted

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