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Re: Christians, God Is Responsible For Atleast Some Of The Suffering On Earth . by Nobody: 10:32am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3:will human’s free will not oppose the omniscience nature of god? |
Re: Christians, God Is Responsible For Atleast Some Of The Suffering On Earth . by Ihedinobi3: 10:41am On Oct 21, 2019 |
nwabekeyi:I don't see how it would. Why would it? |
Re: Christians, God Is Responsible For Atleast Some Of The Suffering On Earth . by Napolito: 5:41pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: I just want you to enlighten me abt origin of different religion, and also tell me d religion Jesus Christ belong. |
Re: Christians, God Is Responsible For Atleast Some Of The Suffering On Earth . by Ihedinobi3: 7:57pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Napolito:Every religion began with a distortion of the Truth. The whole universe is a testimony to the Existence of God and to His Character. When people ignore this testimony, they make stuff up to satisfy or otherwise silence their consciences. When they make stuff up, religions and philosophies come into existence. The Lord Jesus was a Jew, but He did not belong to a religion. He came to lead humanity back to the true God, away from the fictions we have individually and collectively created to replace Him in our hearts. |
Re: Christians, God Is Responsible For Atleast Some Of The Suffering On Earth . by UceeGod: 9:39pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Napolito:The fall of man gave birth to religion. Man was created a spirit with soul and body capable of interrelationship with his Creator and fellow creations. But man lost the capability to relate with God spiritually when Adam fell, because the Spirit of God left man. Man's attempt to connect with His Creator results in religion but that isn't what God wants - the reason Christ came and restored that relationship with God which humanity lost in Eden (God's Presence). 1 Like |
Re: Christians, God Is Responsible For Atleast Some Of The Suffering On Earth . by oaroloye(m): 7:47am On Oct 22, 2019 |
SHALOM! Gideon97: Whereas the urge to find out The Truth is commendable, one must decry laziness in information-gathering. Scripture is the only authoritative source of Knowledge of God's Attributes. People lie, and make up rubbish. The Bible remains a constant. It does not matter what The Bible says: SOME CHURCH, SOMEWHERE, WILL HAVE A TOTALLY-OPPOSITE BELIEF. Anybody who does not know that, must be a fool- especially if they are Africans. We should know this better than anyone. Therefore, only an idiot tries to understand God based on "...SOME CHRISTIANS SAY THAT...!" You compromise your Eternal Destiny based on RUMOURS?? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? Therefore, believe NOTHING you hear about God, until whoever tells you SHOWS YOU the EXACT Scripture, and you have read It yourself. (1) GOD NEVER CLAIMED TO BE OMNIPOTENT, NOR REQUIRED ANYONE TO BELIEVE THAT HE WAS OR IS. There is no Scripture where God declared Himself to be "OMNIPOTENT," nor depicted Him as exhibiting "OMNIPOTENCE." It is foolish to imagine attributes for God, and then wonder why He does not live up to them. (2) ONLY AN EXTREMELY STUPID PERSON WOULD CALL GOD "BENEVOLENT" AND "LOVING." God drove Adam and Eve out of THE GARDEN OF EDEN, inflicted a CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT upon CAIN, reduced the entire population of Humanity to EIGHT, Confused and Scattered Humanity at Babel, EXTERMINATED Sodom and Gomorrah, SLAUGHTERED the Egyptian Firstborns, SLAUGHTERED the Egyptian Army... WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS CRAZY "BENEVOLENT GOD" BULL(*Bleep!*)? ARE YOU BRAIN-DAMAGED? One must ask. There was a Latino woman in Mexico, who complained in hospital of a persistent headache. X-Rays showed her cowardly husband had shot her in the head, while she was sleeping- only the bullet failed to penetrate. At point-blank range. Probably not his first time. Do you have a headache? Maybe someone shot YOU in the head, and you are hallucinating? (3) GOD DOES NOT HAVE THE INTERESTS OF HUMANITY AT HEART- ONLY A TOTALLY-DELUSIONAL FUNCTIONALLY-ILLITERATE FOOL WOULD THINK THAT! Upon WHAT FANTASY do you base that claim? Gideon97: WHAT is the definition of "love" in The Bible? Did you ever bother to find out? The Ancient Greeks had TWELVE different terms which the ENGLISH TRANSLATORS lazily and deceitfully rendered "LOVE." The one term corresponding to what ignorant laymen, such as yourself, call "love" is "EROS: ROMANTIC LOVE." That is the only one of the twelve terms that was not used in the New Testament. When The Bible says "GOD IS LOVE," "LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR," "LOVE YOUR ENEMY," and so on, it is not talking about what YOUR unenlightened mind calls "LOVE." Therefore you are confused, thinking that God is "ROMANTIC LOVE," and "ROMANTICALLY-LOVED" the World, and such nonsense. DO THOROUGH RESEARCH! oaroloye:luvmijeje post=75155153: CLEARLY, ONLY THOSE WHO ARE BELOVED OF GOD CAN ENJOY DOMINION OVER THE EARTH. |
Re: Christians, God Is Responsible For Atleast Some Of The Suffering On Earth . by Nobody: 8:23am On Oct 22, 2019 |
Gideon97: His first human children are Adam and Eve. This is couple that caused all these troubles. They decided to set their own standard for right and wrong and feel they're going to succeed. God told them what will be the outcome of their decision. It's their decision that gave Satan(a rebellious powerful spirit being) the right to interfere in the life of Adam and his descendants. Satan only lead them into this because he wants to rule humans. He has tried countless forms of government yet all have failed. This is why humans are suffering today, but God has set a time when he will destroy Satan and all those who took after his rebellious acts. These is why God sent those who knew all these secrets out to come and give honest hearted and sincere people a message of hope! As for all those OMNIs people often give God as attributes, you need to grasp that it's just human ideologies. God is NOT aware of most things happening amongst us today. Because his eyes can't look upon evil so he only gave his angels the order to watch what Adam's descendants are doing to one another. They mustn't intervene because that's what Adam(our father) chose for us. Those who want God to change this situation must signify now by joining the one and only organization God is using to gather obedient humans for their salvation! Thanks! |
Re: Christians, God Is Responsible For Atleast Some Of The Suffering On Earth . by oaroloye(m): 8:50am On Oct 22, 2019 |
[CONTINUED:] Gideon97: . DEUTERONOMY 28:1-20. AND it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto The Voice of The LORD thy God, to observe and to do all His Commandments Which I Command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the Earth. 2. And all these Blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto The Voice of The LORD thy God. 3. Blessed shalt thou be in the city, and blessed shalt thou be in the field. 4. Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy ground, and the fruit of thy cattle, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 5. Blessed shall be thy basket and thy store. 6. Blessed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and blessed shalt thou be when thou goest out. 7. The LORD shall Cause thine Enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways. 8. The LORD shall Command the Blessing upon thee in thy storehouses, and in all that thou settest thine hand unto; and He shall Bless thee in the land which The LORD thy God giveth thee. 9. The LORD shall establish thee an Holy people unto Himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep The Commandments of The LORD thy God, and walk in His Ways. 10. And all people of the Earth shall see that thou art called by The Name of The LORD; and they shall be afraid of thee. 11. And The LORD shall make thee plenteous in goods, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy ground, in the land which The LORD Sware unto thy Fathers to give thee. 12. The LORD shall open unto thee His Good Treasure, the Heaven to give the rain unto thy land in his season, and to Bless all the Work of thine hand: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shalt not borrow. 13. And The LORD shall make thee the Head, and not the Tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto The Commandments of The LORD thy God, Which I Command thee this day, to observe and to do them: 14. And thou shalt not go aside from any of the Words Which I Command thee this Day, to the right hand, or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them. 15. But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto The Voice of The LORD thy God, to observe to do all His Commandments and His Statutes Which I Command thee this Day; That all these Curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16. Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17. Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18. Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 19. Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out. 20. The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the Wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken Me. THOSE WHO OBEY GOD GET CONTROL OVER THE EARTH, TO MAKE IT DO WHATEVER THEY WANT IT TO DO FOR THEM. Whereas those who disobey God forfeit that Control, and the Attributes of the Earth will be turned against them, to destroy them. You are very stupid to be talking about "NATURAL DISASTERS," "NON-HUMAN CAUSED PHENOMENA!" Who taught you that rubbish? You went to Primary or Secondary School, and learned the curriculum that THE CARNEGIE INSTITUTE imposed upon pur country, using WORLD-BANK LOANS as TROJAN-HORSE pretexts, to dictate to us, what our Schools can teach. OYINBO SCIENCE HAS CONFIRMED THE BIBLE'S TEACHING THAT THE HUMAN MIND CAN CONTROL THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE. [See: THE HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE, by Michael Talbot.] At your ignorant level of FAKE EDUCATION, you will NEVER see those confirmations! Therefore, you feel fully confident to make up ignorant theories about Reality, based upon the lies you were taught in School. For example: (1) MATTER AND ENERGY CAN NEITHER BE CREATED NOR DESTROYED. (2) THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE. (3) THE RECOMBINATION OF ELECTROLYSIS PRODUCTS CANNOT YIELD MORE ENERGY THAN WAS USED TO SEPARATE THEM. (4) THE HUMAN MIND HAS NO EFFECT ON MATTER AND ENERGY. (5) THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF THE EXISTENCE OF SPIRITS, SOULS, OR GOD. Science has proven that the Reality we perceive depends upon our Mental Alignment. The Oyinbos are not going to teach you how to use it better than them, so that you can do to them what they did to every other race on the Earth, when they had Technological Superiority! Therefore, you need to discard the lies they taught you, and start thinking in terms of The Truth: ALL PHYSICAL PHENOMENA ARE CONTROLLABLE BY THE HUMAN MIND. Gideon97: . MARK 11:12-14, 20-26. 12 And on the morrow, when they had come from Bethany, he was hungry: 13 and seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he went to see if perhaps he might find any thing thereon: But when he came to it he found nothing but leaves; for the time for figs was not (yet). 14. And Jesus answered and Said unto it, “Let no man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever.” And His Disciples heard (it). 20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. 21. And Peter, calling to remembrance saith unto him, “Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.” 22. And Jesus answering, Said unto them, “Have Faith in God. 23. "For verily I Say unto you, 'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN, "BE THOU REMOVED, AND BE THOU CAST INTO THE SEA;' AND SHALL NOT DOUBT IN HIS HEART, BUT SHALL BELIEVE THAT THOSE THINGS WHICH HE SAITH SHALL COME TO PASS; HE SHALL HAVE WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'[/i 24. "Therefore I Say unto you, [i]'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE, WHEN YE PRAY, BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM), AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).' 25. "And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have aught against any, that your Father also which is in Heaven may forgive you your trespasses. 26. "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father Which is in Heaven forgive your trespasses.” WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO HEAR GOD'S THOUGHTS? If you were serious, you would have rigorously studied The Book of God, to find Answers. Instead, you don't seem to care, if some disaster or other overtake you, or someone you " love," because of your ignorance. . THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.) 1. TOTAL RECALL. 2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. 3. TELEKINESIS. 4. TELEPORTATION. 5. TRANSLATION. 6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE. When people serve God, these attributes are restored to them, which we need, in order to control the Earth, to prevent Disasters, and clean up those that have happened, as The Bible shows us. ALL HUMANS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THEIR OWN SUFFERING. . EXODUS 20:1-7. AND God Spake all these Words, Saying, 2. "I (am) The LORD thy God, Which have brought thee out of The Land of Egypt, out of The House of Bondage. 3. "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me. 4. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness (of any thing) that (is) in the Earth beneath, or that (is) in the Water under the Earth: 5. "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I The LORD thy God (am) a Jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the third and fourth (generation) of them that Hate Me. 6. "And shewing Mercy unto thousands of them which Love Me, and Keep My Commandments. 7. "Thou shalt not take The Name of The LORD thy God in vain; for The LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh His Name in vain." NOTE THAT GOD HOLDS EVERY HUMAN BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE INIQUITIES OF OUR PARENTS, THEIR GRANDPARENTS, AND THEIR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS! There is no concept of "INNOCENT BABIES" or "INNOCENT CHILDREN" with God. If a family contributes to messing up God's Universe, every living member has a responsibility to clean up their share. . NUMBERS 15:27-31. 27. "And if any Soul Sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a Sin Offering. 28. And the Priest shall make an Atonement for the Soul that Sinneth Ignorantly, when he Sinneth by Ignorance before The LORD, to make an Atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him. 29. "Ye shall have One Law for him that Sinneth through Ignorance, both for him that is born among the Children of Israel, and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them. 30. "But the Soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a Stranger, the same Reproacheth The LORD; and that Soul shall be cut off from among his people. 31. "Because he hath despised The Word of The LORD, and hath broken His Commandment, that Soul shall utterly be cut off; his Iniquity shall be upon him." . LEVITICUS 24:10-16. 10. And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father was an Egyptian, went out among the Children of Israel: and this son of the Israelitish woman and a Man of Israel strove together in the camp; 11. And the Israelitish woman's son blasphemed The Name of The LORD, and cursed. And they brought him unto Moses: [and his mother's name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan:] 12. And they put him in ward, that the Mind of The LORD might be shewed them. 13. And The LORD Spake unto Moses, Saying, 14. "Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the Congregation stone him. 15. "And thou shalt speak unto the Children of Israel, saying, 'WHOSOEVER CURSETH HIS GOD SHALL BEAR HIS SIN.' 16. "And he that blasphemeth The Name of The LORD, he shall surely be put to Death, and all the Congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the Stranger as he that is Born in the land, when he blasphemeth The Name of The LORD, shall be put to death." PEOPLE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO TREAT GOD SERIOUSLY. . DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9. 4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God with all thine Heart, and with all thy Soul, and with all thy might. 6. And these Words, which I Command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7. And thou shalt teach Them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of Them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8. And thou shalt bind Them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9. And thou shalt write Them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates. IF OUR FAMILIES HAD RAISED US PROPERLY, WE SHOULD HAVE ATTAINED THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER BY OUR ADULTHOOD. . MATTHEW 12:22-37. 22. Then was brought unto him one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. 23. And all the people were amazed, and said, "Is not this The Son of David?" 24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils." 25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and Said unto them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his Kingdom stand? 27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. 28. "But if I cast out Devils by the Spirit of God, then The Kingdom of God is come unto you. 29. "Or else how can one enter into a Strong Man's House, and spoil his Goods, except he first bind the Strong Man? And then he will spoil his House. 30. "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 31. "Wherefore I Say unto you, 'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN: BUT THE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN.' 32. "And whosoever speaketh a word against The Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against The Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this World, neither in the World to come. 33. "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34. "O generation of Vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35. "A Good man out of the Good Treasure of the heart bringeth forth Good Things: and an Evil man out of the Evil Treasure bringeth forth Evil Things. 36. "But I Say unto you, 'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.' “ 37. "For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." DEPRIVATION OF THE TEN TALENTS IS ONE OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF GRATUITOUS BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD- WITHOUT WHOSE COOPERATION, ATTAINING THE TEN TALENTS IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE, BUT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. SCIENTOLOGY is an example of an attempt to attain THE TEN TALENTS without obeying God's Commandments. As a result, they do attain these Powers, but cannot retain them, and lose them shortly after experiencing them. [See: SUPER-SCIO, by The Pilot.] "FULL GOSPEL" Christians have similar experiences, because of their corruption by the Pharisee False Doctrine of "IMAGINARY RIGHTEOUSNESS." . MATTHEW 13:19. 19. "When any one heareth The Word of The Kingdom, and Understandeth (It) not, then cometh The Wicked (One), and catcheth away That Which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed By The Way Side." . MARK 4:14-15. 14. "The Sower soweth The Word. 15. "And these are they by the Way Side, where The Word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away The Word that was sown in their hearts." . LUKE 8:11-12. 11. "Now the Parable is this: 'The Seed is The Word of God. 12. 'Those by the Way Side are they that hear; then cometh The Devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be Saved.' " . JOHN 1:1-5,9. IN The Beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God. 2. The same was in The Beginning with God. 3. All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made. 4. In Him was Life, and The Life was The Light of Men. 5. And The Light shineth in Darkness, and The Darkness comprehended it not. 9. That was The True Light, Which lighteth every man that cometh into the World. THE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT SIN MEANS THAT WE HAVE TRANSFERRED OUR SERVITUDE FROM GOD TO THE DEVILS. They own the Sinners, and everything that belonged to them- including the Dominion over all the Earth, Its Attributes and Its Creatures. This they use to cause Disasters, which cause more Sin, Unbelief, and Blasphemy against God, enabling them to steal 99% of our Life Force, and keep us under their Domination. |
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