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Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by ppreye(m): 7:05am On Sep 22, 2019
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Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by GrandHype: 7:05am On Sep 22, 2019
Hisss!
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by netzro(m): 7:07am On Sep 22, 2019
donstan18:
Who said that?

A wise man
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Achimela: 7:10am On Sep 22, 2019
Salvation is personal but the only the truth shall set people free. So hearing the right Truth backed with the Spirit ministration in your heart can go a long way on saving a soul.
Happy Sunday folks...
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by AreaFada2: 7:17am On Sep 22, 2019
patorial:
Frankly speaking I don't think the church is in the first place responsible for your changes. Change yourself, then go to church (which Is likely to be a place where changed people meet) ,as no one can control your mine but only you, so as you not supposed to hold the church responsible if u happens to have the negative change.
You mean followers of Peter, Paul and early Christian elders were already changed or they changed for the better when they met those early church leaders and grew in Faith along the way?

Sure God gave everyone free will and not even all early Christians persevered in faith. But with so many people now claiming Christianity yet so few demonstrate Christian qualities in public and private life, there must be something wrong with the body of Christ as it stands right now. The leaders of the church cannot be exonerated.

Isn't it so that when the head is rotten the rest is useless? cool

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Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by jaxxy(m): 7:18am On Sep 22, 2019
donstan18:
Is your Church suppose to be blamed for your inability to change to a better person by giving your life to Christ after many attempts?







A better person Yes they are partly if not majorly to blame based on what and how they teach, u won’t be in church if u had it all sorted bt A perfect person No.
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Automatic3444(m): 7:19am On Sep 22, 2019
Christ alone
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donstan18:
Is your Church suppose to be blamed for your inability to change to a better person by giving your life to Christ after many attempts?





Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Nobody: 7:24am On Sep 22, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:
CHRIST SHOULD BE BLAMED FOR YOUR INABILITY TO FOLLOW HIM, AND I BACK UP THIS STATEMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING POINTS OF MINE.

1. CHRIST (SAME AS GOD, RIGHT?) BEING ALL-KNOWING KNEW THE HISTORY AND LIFE OF AN UNBELIEVER THAT WILL EXIST IN 2019 RIGHT FROM THE TIME BEFORE HE CREATED ADAM.

2. SO CHRIST CREATES THE WORLD, EXPECTS PEOPLE TO FOLLOW HIM, BUT GOES INTO HIDING FOR CENTURIES...
LEAVING US WITH DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF A "WORD OF GOD" CENTERED AROUND MURDER, RAPE, MASS GENOCIDE, WARS, MISOGYNY, SLAVERY, FLYING AND TALKING ANIMALS, AND TONS OF UNBELIEVABLE SUPERSTITIOUS TALES.

NOW HE FAILS TO SHOW UP TO LEAD AND MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE. INSTEAD WE'RE LEFT WITH CONFLICTING DENOMINATIONS OF CHRISTIANITY BASED ON HIS CONFLICTING HOLY BOOK, CONFLICTING RELIGIONS, AND FRAUDSTERS CLAIMING TO BE HIS MESSENGERS SINCE HE (CHRIST) IS DUMB AND CANNOT SPEAK NOR ACT FOR HIMSELF. THESE FRAUDSTERS, MANY OF THEM APPEAR IN SHINY SUITS EVERY SUNDAY TO MISLEAD THE MASSES THE MORE, AND PERFORM TRICKS AND FAKE MIRACLES... AND END UP RAKING IN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE'S MONEY.

3. HE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED THE WORLD AND ARRANGED MATTERS IN SUCH A WAY THAT PEOPLE WILL GENERALLY FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF THE FAMILY THEY'RE BORN INTO.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE SO MANY FAMILIES AND COUNTRIES THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHRIST. EVEN THOUGH THEY HEAR ABOUT HIM ONCE IN A WHILE, IT SOUNDS TO THEM THE WAY OSCAR OASIS OR WINNIE THE POOH SOUNDS TO YOU. THEY JUST WAVE HIM ASIDE.

AND ACCORDING TO YOU CHRISTIANS (AND MUSLIMS) AND YOUR PREACHERS, NON-CHRISTIANS (AND NON-MUSLIMS) ARE LIABLE TO GO TO HELL. THIS MAKES BILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND FAMILIES EXISTING IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES WHERE CHRISTIANITY (AND ISLAM) IS A MOVIE TITLE TO THEM CANDIDATES OF ETERNAL TORTURE AND SORROW IN YOUR LOVING GOD'S HELL FIRE.

THESE FAMILIES KEEP PRODUCING BABIES, AND THESE BABIES TAKE UP THEIR FAMILY'S DEFAULT RELIGION. CHRIST BEING THE GIVER OF CHILDREN KEEPS SUPPLYING KIDS TO THOSE NON-CHRISTIAN FAMILIES AND COUNTRIES.. WHICH MEANS HE KEEPS RECRUITING MORE CANDIDATES FOR HELL. I DON'T KNOW. HE NEVER SHOWS UP. AND IF IT'S A VIOLENT COUNTRY HE NEVER SENDS ANY OF HIS FRAUDSTERS IN SHINY SUIT OVER THERE TO SPREAD THE WORD. SO THEY KEEP EXISTING AND EXPANDING WITHOUT CHRIST BECAUSE HIS DIVINELY PROTECTED MESSENGERS CANNOT GO THERE TO SPREAD THE WORD, AND CHRIST HIMSELF IS IN COMA. CANNOT WALK (OR FLY) NOR TALK, NOR ACT. CANNOT INFLUENCE ANYTHING AND ALL THE IDEAS WE HAVE ABOUT HIM ARE BEING CREATED BY MEN FOR SELFISH MANIPULATIVE PURPOSES.

4. ON MY PART AS A FORMER CHRISTIAN, THE WORD OF CHRIST (THE BIBLE) DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A GENUINE MANUAL FROM THE PERFECT GOD I WAS TAUGHT ABOUT IN SUNDAY SCHOOL.
HIS MESSENGERS IN SHINY SUIT ARE SIMILAR TO HIGHWAY ROBBERS WHO CARE ABOUT NOTHING ELSE BUT YOUR MONEY.
HIS PHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL ABSENCE IN REAL SENSE IS A THING TO WORRY ABOUT AND I CAN'T PRETEND TO "FEEL HIM IN MY HEART WHEN I PRAY" LIKE OTHER CHRISTIANS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK.
THE EXISTENCE OF THOUSANDS OF RELIGIONS, AND THE FACT THAT CHILDREN GENERALLY FOLLOW THEIR PARENT'S RELIGION SHOWS THAT PEOPLE MAKE UP THESE SILLY RELIGIONS BECAUSE IT MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD. SO WHY SHOULD I WASTE MY LIFE TO LIVE AND DIE FOR MEN'S SPIRITUAL (IMAGINARY) INVENTIONS?



THE WORLD IS SUFFERING. GLOBAL POVERTY, DISEASES AND NATURAL DISASTERS.
TOO MANY RELIGIONS. TOO MANY IDEAS OF A CREATOR GOD.. ALL DEPENDING ON THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION.
CHRIST IS REFUSING TO SHOW UP NO MATTER HOW ANYBODY PRAYS OR CALLS ON HIM.
WE CAN'T EVEN PRAY AWAY A DEADLY DISEASE, A RAPIST, A SERIAL KILLER.. OR A NATURAL DISASTER, CREATED BY THE LOVING CHRIST TO CAUSE PAIN AND DAMAGES ON EARTH.

IN MY BOOK, I HAVE NO REASON TO FOLLOW CHRIST, OR ANY RELIGION IN EXISTENCE. THE THREATS OF GOING TO HELL (WHEN I DIE) WON'T CHANGE MY MIND.

TO BE FOLLOWED, YOU HAVE TO BE THERE TO LEAD.
CHRIST IS NEVER THERE TO LEAD OR DO ANYTHING FOR THAT MATTER.

HE ALONE IS TO BE BLAMED FOR PEOPLE'S INABILITY TO FOLLOW HIM.


Jesus christ is not the Almighty God Jehovah the creator, this is what the Christians fail to understand.

The God you speak of cannot come down to lead directly, his presence will cause earthquake, thunderous lightening, fire and great fear.
Nothing unholy can survive his presence thats how powerful he is.
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Mosco100(m): 7:27am On Sep 22, 2019
Read your Bible and obey Jesus. Trust and obey.
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by CAPSLOCKED: 7:35am On Sep 22, 2019
zimdante:


Jesus christ is not the Almighty God Jehovah the creator, this is what the Christians fail to understand.

The God you speak of cannot come down to lead directly, his presence will cause earthquake, thunderous lightening, fire and great fear.
Nothing unholy can survive his presence thats how powerful he is.

HOW DID YOU KNOW ABOUT ALL THIS? WHERE ARE YOUR RESEARCH DOCUMENTS, OR ANY DOCUMENTS THAT PROVES THE AUTHENTICITY OF THIS DISCOVERY.. BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO HAVE BEEN BORN WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF SUCH AN EARTHQUAKE CAUSING GOD.

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Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Enemyofpeace: 7:37am On Sep 22, 2019
dominique is responsible for my inability to serve God wholeheartedly
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Nobody: 7:44am On Sep 22, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:


HOW DID YOU KNOW ABOUT ALL THIS? WHERE ARE YOUR RESEARCH DOCUMENTS, OR ANY DOCUMENTS THAT PROVES THE AUTHENTICITY OF THIS DISCOVERY.. BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO HAVE BEEN BORN WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF SUCH AN EARTHQUAKE CAUSING GOD.

Its in the old testament of the bible.
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Nobody: 7:45am On Sep 22, 2019
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HOW DID YOU KNOW ABOUT ALL THIS? WHERE ARE YOUR RESEARCH DOCUMENTS, OR ANY DOCUMENTS THAT PROVES THE AUTHENTICITY OF THIS DISCOVERY.. BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO HAVE BEEN BORN WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF SUCH AN EARTHQUAKE CAUSING GOD.

In the old testament of the bible
1kings 19: 11 - 12
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by CAPSLOCKED: 7:46am On Sep 22, 2019
zimdante:

Its in the old testament of the bible.
BOOM!!!!
IT'S IN THE BIBLE, THEREFORE IT IS TRUE.
OYA CLAP FOR YOURSELF. grin

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Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Nobody: 7:51am On Sep 22, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:


BOOM!!!!

IT'S IN THE BIBLE, THEREFORE IT IS TRUE.

OYA CLAP FOR YOURSELF. grin

You doubt the bible or the existence of God ?
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by CAPSLOCKED: 7:56am On Sep 22, 2019
zimdante:


You doubt the bible or the existence of God ?

I DON'T DOUBT THE BIBLE. I DON'T DOUBT THINGS FALL APART. I DON'T DOUBT THE EXISTENCE OF GOD.
HE JUST DOESN'T EXIST OUTSIDE A BELIEVER'S HEAD. THAT'S MY POINT.

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Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Nobody: 8:02am On Sep 22, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:


I DON'T DOUBT THE BIBLE. I DON'T DOUBT THINGS FALL APART. I DON'T DOUBT THE EXISTENCE OF GOD.
HE JUST DOESN'T EXIST OUTSIDE A BELIEVER'S HEAD. THAT'S MY POINT.

Have you ever wondered how the universe came to be so organized.
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Vasgas: 8:04am On Sep 22, 2019
Pavore9:
No, one has to take personal responsibility.
The best the minister can do is to continue praying and perching to his congregation.
The onus lies on you to allow the word grow in your heart or die.
The only exception is when the Church does not preach the undiluted word of God.....
Then it can be blamed
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Truefaith: 8:13am On Sep 22, 2019
Check this issue up with your Bible open at



































www.thetruechristianfaith.com
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by nwamabo247(m): 8:16am On Sep 22, 2019
NO please dear nairalanders pls i need ur help.see my signature below
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by emitheo(m): 8:41am On Sep 22, 2019
saraki2019:
church goers? let all churches be abolished, let all worship God AT home, let us be judged by our merit and not based on who go to church or not, how can nigerias has the largest number of churches and still be the most corrupt, in kidnapping, robbering, serial killing, public, corruption, unemployment, fake pastors, ritualist, corrupt politicians, drug dealers, human traffickers among orders,
i think we should demolish these churches and build factories, build wealth, i think if we we need to fight poverty , invest in ourselve and not so called churches.
if we can invest half of the time, money, energy , focus and attentions we waste in churches into entrepreneuaship, we will have a more peaceful country than this hell we have
Too much sense no go kill you. you too much abeg
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by kazyhm(m): 8:47am On Sep 22, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:
CHRIST SHOULD BE BLAMED FOR YOUR INABILITY TO FOLLOW HIM, AND I BACK UP THIS STATEMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING POINTS OF MINE.

1. CHRIST (SAME AS GOD, RIGHT?) BEING ALL-KNOWING KNEW THE HISTORY AND LIFE OF AN UNBELIEVER THAT WILL EXIST IN 2019 RIGHT FROM THE TIME BEFORE HE CREATED ADAM.

2. SO CHRIST CREATES THE WORLD, EXPECTS PEOPLE TO FOLLOW HIM, BUT GOES INTO HIDING FOR CENTURIES...
LEAVING US WITH DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF A "WORD OF GOD" CENTERED AROUND MURDER, RAPE, MASS GENOCIDE, WARS, MISOGYNY, SLAVERY, FLYING AND TALKING ANIMALS, AND TONS OF UNBELIEVABLE SUPERSTITIOUS TALES.

NOW HE FAILS TO SHOW UP TO LEAD AND MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE. INSTEAD WE'RE LEFT WITH CONFLICTING DENOMINATIONS OF CHRISTIANITY BASED ON HIS CONFLICTING HOLY BOOK, CONFLICTING RELIGIONS, AND FRAUDSTERS CLAIMING TO BE HIS MESSENGERS SINCE HE (CHRIST) IS DUMB AND CANNOT SPEAK NOR ACT FOR HIMSELF. THESE FRAUDSTERS, MANY OF THEM APPEAR IN SHINY SUITS EVERY SUNDAY TO MISLEAD THE MASSES THE MORE, AND PERFORM TRICKS AND FAKE MIRACLES... AND END UP RAKING IN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE'S MONEY.

3. HE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED THE WORLD AND ARRANGED MATTERS IN SUCH A WAY THAT PEOPLE WILL GENERALLY FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF THE FAMILY THEY'RE BORN INTO.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE SO MANY FAMILIES AND COUNTRIES THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHRIST. EVEN THOUGH THEY HEAR ABOUT HIM ONCE IN A WHILE, IT SOUNDS TO THEM THE WAY OSCAR OASIS OR WINNIE THE POOH SOUNDS TO YOU. THEY JUST WAVE HIM ASIDE.

AND ACCORDING TO YOU CHRISTIANS (AND MUSLIMS) AND YOUR PREACHERS, NON-CHRISTIANS (AND NON-MUSLIMS) ARE LIABLE TO GO TO HELL. THIS MAKES BILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND FAMILIES EXISTING IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES WHERE CHRISTIANITY (AND ISLAM) IS A MOVIE TITLE TO THEM CANDIDATES OF ETERNAL TORTURE AND SORROW IN YOUR LOVING GOD'S HELL FIRE.

THESE FAMILIES KEEP PRODUCING BABIES, AND THESE BABIES TAKE UP THEIR FAMILY'S DEFAULT RELIGION. CHRIST BEING THE GIVER OF CHILDREN KEEPS SUPPLYING KIDS TO THOSE NON-CHRISTIAN FAMILIES AND COUNTRIES.. WHICH MEANS HE KEEPS RECRUITING MORE CANDIDATES FOR HELL. I DON'T KNOW. HE NEVER SHOWS UP. AND IF IT'S A VIOLENT COUNTRY HE NEVER SENDS ANY OF HIS FRAUDSTERS IN SHINY SUIT OVER THERE TO SPREAD THE WORD. SO THEY KEEP EXISTING AND EXPANDING WITHOUT CHRIST BECAUSE HIS DIVINELY PROTECTED MESSENGERS CANNOT GO THERE TO SPREAD THE WORD, AND CHRIST HIMSELF IS IN COMA. CANNOT WALK (OR FLY) NOR TALK, NOR ACT. CANNOT INFLUENCE ANYTHING AND ALL THE IDEAS WE HAVE ABOUT HIM ARE BEING CREATED BY MEN FOR SELFISH MANIPULATIVE PURPOSES.

4. ON MY PART AS A FORMER CHRISTIAN, THE WORD OF CHRIST (THE BIBLE) DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A GENUINE MANUAL FROM THE PERFECT GOD I WAS TAUGHT ABOUT IN SUNDAY SCHOOL.
HIS MESSENGERS IN SHINY SUIT ARE SIMILAR TO HIGHWAY ROBBERS WHO CARE ABOUT NOTHING ELSE BUT YOUR MONEY.
HIS PHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL ABSENCE IN REAL SENSE IS A THING TO WORRY ABOUT AND I CAN'T PRETEND TO "FEEL HIM IN MY HEART WHEN I PRAY" LIKE OTHER CHRISTIANS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK.
THE EXISTENCE OF THOUSANDS OF RELIGIONS, AND THE FACT THAT CHILDREN GENERALLY FOLLOW THEIR PARENT'S RELIGION SHOWS THAT PEOPLE MAKE UP THESE SILLY RELIGIONS BECAUSE IT MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD. SO WHY SHOULD I WASTE MY LIFE TO LIVE AND DIE FOR MEN'S SPIRITUAL (IMAGINARY) INVENTIONS?



THE WORLD IS SUFFERING. GLOBAL POVERTY, DISEASES AND NATURAL DISASTERS.
TOO MANY RELIGIONS. TOO MANY IDEAS OF A CREATOR GOD.. ALL DEPENDING ON THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION.
CHRIST IS REFUSING TO SHOW UP NO MATTER HOW ANYBODY PRAYS OR CALLS ON HIM.
WE CAN'T EVEN PRAY AWAY A DEADLY DISEASE, A RAPIST, A SERIAL KILLER.. OR A NATURAL DISASTER, CREATED BY THE LOVING CHRIST TO CAUSE PAIN AND DAMAGES ON EARTH.

IN MY BOOK, I HAVE NO REASON TO FOLLOW CHRIST, OR ANY RELIGION IN EXISTENCE. THE THREATS OF GOING TO HELL (WHEN I DIE) WON'T CHANGE MY MIND.

TO BE FOLLOWED, YOU HAVE TO BE THERE TO LEAD.
CHRIST IS NEVER THERE TO LEAD OR DO ANYTHING FOR THAT MATTER.

HE ALONE IS TO BE BLAMED FOR PEOPLE'S INABILITY TO FOLLOW HIM.



This doesn't make sense to an indoctrinated souls.......I have stopped dealing with religious people at any slightest chance.....

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Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Rick9(m): 8:51am On Sep 22, 2019
donstan18:
Who said that?

Apostle Chibuzor Gift Chinyere
Of
Omega Power Ministry In Port Harcourt.
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by CAPSLOCKED: 9:26am On Sep 22, 2019
zimdante:


Have you ever wondered how the universe came to be so organized.

I HAVE NEVER WONDERED. BUT I'VE READ BOOKS AND RECORDS FROM MANY RESEARCHERS WHO WONDERED, AND THEN SOUGHT AFTER ANSWERS FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS YOUR RELIGION TEACHES PEOPLE NOT TO ASK.

READING BIBLE HAS NEVER TAUGHT ANYONE HOW TO COOK, HOW TO TREAT A DISEASE, HOW TO BUILD A PLANE, HOW TO PERFORM A SURGERY, NOR HOW TO PREVENT INFECTIONS. THE BIBLE CONTRIBUTES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TANGIBLE WHATSOEVER. ONLY A COMPLETE FOOL WHOSE HEAD IS OCCUPIED WITH CEMENT WILL PICK THE BIBLE AHEAD OF ANY BOOK WHICH IS HELPING TO MAKE LIFE LIVABLE ON EARTH FOR US.

I WILL PICK QUEEN PREMIER CHILDREN BOOK OVER THE BIBLE ANY DAY.

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Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by samology2000: 9:27am On Sep 22, 2019
@ Capslocked, Christ should not be blamed for anything pls. U have to accept him as your lord and saviour today before it is too late. Shalom....
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Righteousness89(m): 9:27am On Sep 22, 2019
donstan18:
Who said that?

If your Church Cannot Change you, Change your Church!- Pastor Lazarus Muoka of The Lords Chosen Charismatic Revival Movement
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by CAPSLOCKED: 9:31am On Sep 22, 2019
samology2000:
@ Capslocked, Christ should not be blamed for anything pls. U have to accept him as your lord and saviour today before it is too late. Shalom....

YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT XVIDEOS AS YOUR PERSONAL PØRN HUB AND SAVIOR TODAY BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

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Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by Finallydead: 9:32am On Sep 22, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:
CHRIST SHOULD BE BLAMED FOR YOUR INABILITY TO FOLLOW HIM, AND I BACK UP THIS STATEMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING POINTS OF MINE.

1. CHRIST (SAME AS GOD, RIGHT?) BEING ALL-KNOWING KNEW THE HISTORY AND LIFE OF AN UNBELIEVER THAT WILL EXIST IN 2019 RIGHT FROM THE TIME BEFORE HE CREATED ADAM.

2. SO CHRIST CREATES THE WORLD, EXPECTS PEOPLE TO FOLLOW HIM, BUT GOES INTO HIDING FOR CENTURIES...
LEAVING US WITH DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF A "WORD OF GOD" CENTERED AROUND MURDER, RAPE, MASS GENOCIDE, WARS, MISOGYNY, SLAVERY, FLYING AND TALKING ANIMALS, AND TONS OF UNBELIEVABLE SUPERSTITIOUS TALES.

NOW HE FAILS TO SHOW UP TO LEAD AND MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE. INSTEAD WE'RE LEFT WITH CONFLICTING DENOMINATIONS OF CHRISTIANITY BASED ON HIS CONFLICTING HOLY BOOK, CONFLICTING RELIGIONS, AND FRAUDSTERS CLAIMING TO BE HIS MESSENGERS SINCE HE (CHRIST) IS DUMB AND CANNOT SPEAK NOR ACT FOR HIMSELF. THESE FRAUDSTERS, MANY OF THEM APPEAR IN SHINY SUITS EVERY SUNDAY TO MISLEAD THE MASSES THE MORE, AND PERFORM TRICKS AND FAKE MIRACLES... AND END UP RAKING IN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE'S MONEY.

3. HE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED THE WORLD AND ARRANGED MATTERS IN SUCH A WAY THAT PEOPLE WILL GENERALLY FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF THE FAMILY THEY'RE BORN INTO.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE SO MANY FAMILIES AND COUNTRIES THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHRIST. EVEN THOUGH THEY HEAR ABOUT HIM ONCE IN A WHILE, IT SOUNDS TO THEM THE WAY OSCAR OASIS OR WINNIE THE POOH SOUNDS TO YOU. THEY JUST WAVE HIM ASIDE.

AND ACCORDING TO YOU CHRISTIANS (AND MUSLIMS) AND YOUR PREACHERS, NON-CHRISTIANS (AND NON-MUSLIMS) ARE LIABLE TO GO TO HELL. THIS MAKES BILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND FAMILIES EXISTING IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES WHERE CHRISTIANITY (AND ISLAM) IS A MOVIE TITLE TO THEM CANDIDATES OF ETERNAL TORTURE AND SORROW IN YOUR LOVING GOD'S HELL FIRE.

THESE FAMILIES KEEP PRODUCING BABIES, AND THESE BABIES TAKE UP THEIR FAMILY'S DEFAULT RELIGION. CHRIST BEING THE GIVER OF CHILDREN KEEPS SUPPLYING KIDS TO THOSE NON-CHRISTIAN FAMILIES AND COUNTRIES.. WHICH MEANS HE KEEPS RECRUITING MORE CANDIDATES FOR HELL. I DON'T KNOW. HE NEVER SHOWS UP. AND IF IT'S A VIOLENT COUNTRY HE NEVER SENDS ANY OF HIS FRAUDSTERS IN SHINY SUIT OVER THERE TO SPREAD THE WORD. SO THEY KEEP EXISTING AND EXPANDING WITHOUT CHRIST BECAUSE HIS DIVINELY PROTECTED MESSENGERS CANNOT GO THERE TO SPREAD THE WORD, AND CHRIST HIMSELF IS IN COMA. CANNOT WALK (OR FLY) NOR TALK, NOR ACT. CANNOT INFLUENCE ANYTHING AND ALL THE IDEAS WE HAVE ABOUT HIM ARE BEING CREATED BY MEN FOR SELFISH MANIPULATIVE PURPOSES.

4. ON MY PART AS A FORMER CHRISTIAN, THE WORD OF CHRIST (THE BIBLE) DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A GENUINE MANUAL FROM THE PERFECT GOD I WAS TAUGHT ABOUT IN SUNDAY SCHOOL.
HIS MESSENGERS IN SHINY SUIT ARE SIMILAR TO HIGHWAY ROBBERS WHO CARE ABOUT NOTHING ELSE BUT YOUR MONEY.
HIS PHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL ABSENCE IN REAL SENSE IS A THING TO WORRY ABOUT AND I CAN'T PRETEND TO "FEEL HIM IN MY HEART WHEN I PRAY" LIKE OTHER CHRISTIANS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK.
THE EXISTENCE OF THOUSANDS OF RELIGIONS, AND THE FACT THAT CHILDREN GENERALLY FOLLOW THEIR PARENT'S RELIGION SHOWS THAT PEOPLE MAKE UP THESE SILLY RELIGIONS BECAUSE IT MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD. SO WHY SHOULD I WASTE MY LIFE TO LIVE AND DIE FOR MEN'S SPIRITUAL (IMAGINARY) INVENTIONS?



THE WORLD IS SUFFERING. GLOBAL POVERTY, DISEASES AND NATURAL DISASTERS.
TOO MANY RELIGIONS. TOO MANY IDEAS OF A CREATOR GOD.. ALL DEPENDING ON THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION.
CHRIST IS REFUSING TO SHOW UP NO MATTER HOW ANYBODY PRAYS OR CALLS ON HIM.
WE CAN'T EVEN PRAY AWAY A DEADLY DISEASE, A RAPIST, A SERIAL KILLER.. OR A NATURAL DISASTER, CREATED BY THE LOVING CHRIST TO CAUSE PAIN AND DAMAGES ON EARTH.

IN MY BOOK, I HAVE NO REASON TO FOLLOW CHRIST, OR ANY RELIGION IN EXISTENCE. THE THREATS OF GOING TO HELL (WHEN I DIE) WON'T CHANGE MY MIND.

TO BE FOLLOWED, YOU HAVE TO BE THERE TO LEAD.
CHRIST IS NEVER THERE TO LEAD OR DO ANYTHING FOR THAT MATTER.

HE ALONE IS TO BE BLAMED FOR PEOPLE'S INABILITY TO FOLLOW HIM.



You seem to feel justified in answering questions and solving puzzles you never bothered to verify the validity of yet you claim to be a truth seeker. A truth-seeker must understand how not to allow people's opinions come between him and his quest but you only succeeded in debunking mostly falsely conceived opinions of men. I will begin with you from here:

1. How did the universe begin to exist and if you say it's a Big Bang, you wouldn't be wrong but you will still need to explain the cause of this in context of the law of the universe: "Energy can neither be created..."

2. Again, since you pride yourself in your ability to reason, you also should justify this ability in the context of an initial unintelligent energy source/being (Non-God) in the same context of the law of the universe: "Energy can neither be created nor destroyed...".

3. Also try to justify a universe so complex and yet upheld by laws of science( which you somehow believe in asides God's existence) which keep it in equilibrium and sustain its continuity if there is no such intelligent being
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by samology2000: 9:33am On Sep 22, 2019
It takes divine knowledge to read the Holy Bible and understand.So Capslocked pls pray for divine knowledge and understanding the Bible. The problem with you is that you read the Bible like ordinary book.
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by MERCHANDISER: 9:35am On Sep 22, 2019
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CHRIST SHOULD BE BLAMED FOR YOUR INABILITY TO FOLLOW HIM, AND I BACK UP THIS STATEMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING POINTS OF MINE.

1. CHRIST (SAME AS GOD, RIGHT?) BEING ALL-KNOWING KNEW THE HISTORY AND LIFE OF AN UNBELIEVER THAT WILL EXIST IN 2019 RIGHT FROM THE TIME BEFORE HE CREATED ADAM.

2. SO CHRIST CREATES THE WORLD, EXPECTS PEOPLE TO FOLLOW HIM, BUT GOES INTO HIDING FOR CENTURIES...
LEAVING US WITH DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF A "WORD OF GOD" CENTERED AROUND MURDER, RAPE, MASS GENOCIDE, WARS, MISOGYNY, SLAVERY, FLYING AND TALKING ANIMALS, AND TONS OF UNBELIEVABLE SUPERSTITIOUS TALES.

NOW HE FAILS TO SHOW UP TO LEAD AND MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE. INSTEAD WE'RE LEFT WITH CONFLICTING DENOMINATIONS OF CHRISTIANITY BASED ON HIS CONFLICTING HOLY BOOK, CONFLICTING RELIGIONS, AND FRAUDSTERS CLAIMING TO BE HIS MESSENGERS SINCE HE (CHRIST) IS DUMB AND CANNOT SPEAK NOR ACT FOR HIMSELF. THESE FRAUDSTERS, MANY OF THEM APPEAR IN SHINY SUITS EVERY SUNDAY TO MISLEAD THE MASSES THE MORE, AND PERFORM TRICKS AND FAKE MIRACLES... AND END UP RAKING IN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE'S MONEY.

3. HE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED THE WORLD AND ARRANGED MATTERS IN SUCH A WAY THAT PEOPLE WILL GENERALLY FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF THE FAMILY THEY'RE BORN INTO.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE SO MANY FAMILIES AND COUNTRIES THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHRIST. EVEN THOUGH THEY HEAR ABOUT HIM ONCE IN A WHILE, IT SOUNDS TO THEM THE WAY OSCAR OASIS OR WINNIE THE POOH SOUNDS TO YOU. THEY JUST WAVE HIM ASIDE.

AND ACCORDING TO YOU CHRISTIANS (AND MUSLIMS) AND YOUR PREACHERS, NON-CHRISTIANS (AND NON-MUSLIMS) ARE LIABLE TO GO TO HELL. THIS MAKES BILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND FAMILIES EXISTING IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES WHERE CHRISTIANITY (AND ISLAM) IS A MOVIE TITLE TO THEM CANDIDATES OF ETERNAL TORTURE AND SORROW IN YOUR LOVING GOD'S HELL FIRE.

THESE FAMILIES KEEP PRODUCING BABIES, AND THESE BABIES TAKE UP THEIR FAMILY'S DEFAULT RELIGION. CHRIST BEING THE GIVER OF CHILDREN KEEPS SUPPLYING KIDS TO THOSE NON-CHRISTIAN FAMILIES AND COUNTRIES.. WHICH MEANS HE KEEPS RECRUITING MORE CANDIDATES FOR HELL. I DON'T KNOW. HE NEVER SHOWS UP. AND IF IT'S A VIOLENT COUNTRY HE NEVER SENDS ANY OF HIS FRAUDSTERS IN SHINY SUIT OVER THERE TO SPREAD THE WORD. SO THEY KEEP EXISTING AND EXPANDING WITHOUT CHRIST BECAUSE HIS DIVINELY PROTECTED MESSENGERS CANNOT GO THERE TO SPREAD THE WORD, AND CHRIST HIMSELF IS IN COMA. CANNOT WALK (OR FLY) NOR TALK, NOR ACT. CANNOT INFLUENCE ANYTHING AND ALL THE IDEAS WE HAVE ABOUT HIM ARE BEING CREATED BY MEN FOR SELFISH MANIPULATIVE PURPOSES.

4. ON MY PART AS A FORMER CHRISTIAN, THE WORD OF CHRIST (THE BIBLE) DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A GENUINE MANUAL FROM THE PERFECT GOD I WAS TAUGHT ABOUT IN SUNDAY SCHOOL.
HIS MESSENGERS IN SHINY SUIT ARE SIMILAR TO HIGHWAY ROBBERS WHO CARE ABOUT NOTHING ELSE BUT YOUR MONEY.
HIS PHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL ABSENCE IN REAL SENSE IS A THING TO WORRY ABOUT AND I CAN'T PRETEND TO "FEEL HIM IN MY HEART WHEN I PRAY" LIKE OTHER CHRISTIANS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK.
THE EXISTENCE OF THOUSANDS OF RELIGIONS, AND THE FACT THAT CHILDREN GENERALLY FOLLOW THEIR PARENT'S RELIGION SHOWS THAT PEOPLE MAKE UP THESE SILLY RELIGIONS BECAUSE IT MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD. SO WHY SHOULD I WASTE MY LIFE TO LIVE AND DIE FOR MEN'S SPIRITUAL (IMAGINARY) INVENTIONS?



THE WORLD IS SUFFERING. GLOBAL POVERTY, DISEASES AND NATURAL DISASTERS.
TOO MANY RELIGIONS. TOO MANY IDEAS OF A CREATOR GOD.. ALL DEPENDING ON THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION.
CHRIST IS REFUSING TO SHOW UP NO MATTER HOW ANYBODY PRAYS OR CALLS ON HIM.
WE CAN'T EVEN PRAY AWAY A DEADLY DISEASE, A RAPIST, A SERIAL KILLER.. OR A NATURAL DISASTER, CREATED BY THE LOVING CHRIST TO CAUSE PAIN AND DAMAGES ON EARTH.

IN MY BOOK, I HAVE NO REASON TO FOLLOW CHRIST, OR ANY RELIGION IN EXISTENCE. THE THREATS OF GOING TO HELL (WHEN I DIE) WON'T CHANGE MY MIND.

TO BE FOLLOWED, YOU HAVE TO BE THERE TO LEAD.
CHRIST IS NEVER THERE TO LEAD OR DO ANYTHING FOR THAT MATTER.

HE ALONE IS TO BE BLAMED FOR PEOPLE'S INABILITY TO FOLLOW HIM.

hmmm....u no dey fear o
You don already book hell ticket
Re: Is Your Church Responsible For Your Inability To Follow Christ? by MERCHANDISER: 9:38am On Sep 22, 2019
peteradoga3:
you are on point, everybody have his or her own view about religion, some are scarred of imaginary hell fire (lol) that's why they go to church and some are born into a Christianity family, but some christain will come and throw stone on you now, just wait and see!!!
make u and dah ur athiest friend repent...
The trumpet go soon blow

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