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The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by bingbagbo(m): 3:33pm On Sep 22, 2019
The Trinity doctrine is a lie-God is not three persons

Even the devil knows God is one.
Deuteronomy 6:4 makes it clear, that the Lord our God is one. His name is I AM, not WE ARE! I believe you are already vexed by this truth, but beloved I tell you, God is not three persons.

What did the Lord Jesus Christ tell us about God in John 4:24? He said God is a spirit. Not spirits but spirit, singular. God is Holy, therefore God is non other than the Holy spirit, who fully tabernacles in Christ Jesus and died on the cross.

Here is where the ignorance emanates from, Matthew 28:19 where Jesus asked his disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and the son and the Holy spirit. Many misunderstand this in thinking that, God is/are three distinct persons, No! The disciples indeed went to baptize, in what name? The name Jesus. The name Jesus is thus the name of the father , the son and the holy spirit.

In heaven, Jesus sits on the throne of God. Jesus Christ is the only true God. A Christian is one who worships Jesus Christ. Ever wondered why, the Holy spirit could only be sent by Jesus after he had ascended? It is because, this same Jesus Christ is that same holy spirit.

Don't believe and follow blindly, I was also brainwashed to believe God is three persons, that is the biggest heresy. Jesus Christ is that same YHWH of the old testament. Jesus Christ is the God Christians are waiting for to come. Jesus Christ is the one who shed his blood for the sins of man. He says in the old testament that, apart from him there is no saviour. Jesus Christ created all things including you.

1 Timothy 3:16

May the Lord grant you understanding!

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Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by Kdon2: 3:41pm On Sep 22, 2019
bingbagbo:

The Trinity doctrine is a lie-God is not three persons

Even the devil knows God is one.
Deuteronomy 6:4 makes it clear, that the Lord our God is one. His name is I AM, not WE ARE! I believe you are already vexed by this truth, but beloved I tell you, God is not three persons.

What did the Lord Jesus Christ tell us about God in John 4:24? He said God is a spirit. Not spirits but spirit, singular. God is Holy, therefore God is non other than the Holy spirit, who fully tabernacles in Christ Jesus and died on the cross.

Here is where the ignorance emanates from, Matthew 28:19 where Jesus asked his disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and the son and the Holy spirit. Many misunderstand this in thinking that, God is/are three distinct persons, No! The disciples indeed went to baptize, in what name? The name Jesus. The name Jesus is thus the name of the father , the son and the holy spirit.

In heaven, Jesus sits on the throne of God. Jesus Christ is the only true God. A Christian is one who worships Jesus Christ. Ever wondered why, the Holy spirit could only be sent by Jesus after he had ascended? It is because, this same Jesus Christ is that same holy spirit.

Don't believe and follow blindly, I was also brainwashed to believe God is three persons, that is the biggest heresy. Jesus Christ is that same YHWH of the old testament. Jesus Christ is the God Christians are waiting for to come. Jesus Christ is the one who shed his blood for the sins of man. He says in the old testament that, apart from him there is no saviour. Jesus Christ created all things including you.

1 Timothy 3:16

May the Lord grant you understanding!

You are the ignorant one here! The bible talks of one God in three forms. God in the father, in the son abd in the holy spirit

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Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by Truthwords: 3:46pm On Sep 22, 2019
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Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by Ihedinobi3: 3:52pm On Sep 22, 2019
bingbagbo:
The Trinity doctrine is a lie-God is not three persons

Even the devil knows God is one.
Deuteronomy 6:4 makes it clear, that the Lord our God is one. His name is I AM, not WE ARE! I believe you are already vexed by this truth, but beloved I tell you, God is not three persons.

What did the Lord Jesus Christ tell us about God in John 4:24? He said God is a spirit. Not spirits but spirit, singular. God is Holy, therefore God is non other than the Holy spirit, who fully tabernacles in Christ Jesus and died on the cross.

Here is where the ignorance emanates from, Matthew 28:19 where Jesus asked his disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and the son and the Holy spirit. Many misunderstand this in thinking that, God is/are three distinct persons, No! The disciples indeed went to baptize, in what name? The name Jesus. The name Jesus is thus the name of the father , the son and the holy spirit.

In heaven, Jesus sits on the throne of God. Jesus Christ is the only true God. A Christian is one who worships Jesus Christ. Ever wondered why, the Holy spirit could only be sent by Jesus after he had ascended? It is because, this same Jesus Christ is that same holy spirit.

Don't believe and follow blindly, I was also brainwashed to believe God is three persons, that is the biggest heresy. Jesus Christ is that same YHWH of the old testament. Jesus Christ is the God Christians are waiting for to come. Jesus Christ is the one who shed his blood for the sins of man. He says in the old testament that, apart from him there is no saviour. Jesus Christ created all things including you.

1 Timothy 3:16

May the Lord grant you understanding!
This is quite ridiculously false.

You are right that the Lord is One. The Bible says that. But you are violently wrong in suggesting that the Father, the Word, and the Spirit are One Person. They are not. The entire Bible refutes this on every page.

[1]The Lord says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet."
Psalms 110:1 NASB

[16]"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
[17]For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

John 3:16-17 NASB

[16]I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;
[17]that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.

John 14:16-17 NASB

[1]God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,
[2]in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.
[3]And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
[4]having become as much better than the angels, as He has inherited a more excellent name than they.
[5]For to which of the angels did He ever say, "You are My Son, Today I have begotten You"? And again, "I will be a Father to Him And He shall be a Son to Me"?
[6]And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, "And let all the angels of God worship Him."
[7]And of the angels He says, "Who makes His angels winds, And His ministers a flame of fire."
[8]But of the Son He says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom.
[9]"You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness above Your companions."
[10]And, "You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the works of Your hands;
[11]They will perish, but You remain; And they all will become old like a garment,
[12]And like a mantle You will roll them up; Like a garment they will also be changed. But You are the same, And Your years will not come to an end."
[13]But to which of the angels has He ever said, "Sit at My right hand, Until I make Your enemies A footstool for Your feet"?

Hebrews 1:1-13 NASB

[1]The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John,
[4]John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace, from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne,
[5]and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood-

Revelation 1:1,4-5 NASB

These are only a sampling. It would take all day and then some to find all the references in the Bible to the Three Persons of the Trinity.

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Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by bingbagbo(m): 4:29pm On Sep 22, 2019
Ihedinobi3:

This is quite ridiculously false.

You are right that the Lord is One. The Bible says that. But you are violently wrong in suggesting that the Father, the Word, and the Spirit are One Person. They are not. The entire Bible refutes this on every page.

[1]The Lord says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet."
Psalms 110:1 NASB

[16]"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
[17]For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

John 3:16-17 NASB

[16]I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;
[17]that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.

John 14:16-17 NASB

[1]God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,
[2]in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.
[3]And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
[4]having become as much better than the angels, as He has inherited a more excellent name than they.
[5]For to which of the angels did He ever say, "You are My Son, Today I have begotten You"? And again, "I will be a Father to Him And He shall be a Son to Me"?
[6]And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, "And let all the angels of God worship Him."
[7]And of the angels He says, "Who makes His angels winds, And His ministers a flame of fire."
[8]But of the Son He says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom.
[9]"You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness above Your companions."
[10]And, "You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the works of Your hands;
[11]They will perish, but You remain; And they all will become old like a garment,
[12]And like a mantle You will roll them up; Like a garment they will also be changed. But You are the same, And Your years will not come to an end."
[13]But to which of the angels has He ever said, "Sit at My right hand, Until I make Your enemies A footstool for Your feet"?

Hebrews 1:1-13 NASB

[1]The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John,
[4]John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace, from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne,
[5]and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood-

Revelation 1:1,4-5 NASB

These are only a sampling. It would take all day and then some to find all the references in the Bible to the Three Persons of the Trinity.


You worship what you don't know

I pray the Lord grants you understanding

Jesus Christ is God Almighty
Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by Ihedinobi3: 6:00pm On Sep 22, 2019
bingbagbo:



You worship what you don't know

I pray the Lord grants you understanding

Jesus Christ is God Almighty
I do know Him Whom I have believed, and it has pleased Him to grant me understanding in His Ways as I have learned from one whom He gifted to me as a teacher. So the problem is not me at all, it is you.

The Bible is not whatever you wish it to be. It does not teach in any way that there is no Father or Holy Spirit except the Lord Jesus. There are Three Who are the One God. The Father is a separate Person from the Lord Jesus Who in turn is a different Person from the Holy Spirit.

I did not bother to address your arguments because I thought that anyone who really loves the Truth and respects it would rather be asking questions rather than teaching a blatant falsehood like you did. The right thing to do is to ask why the Bible says what you quoted when in fact it also says things like what I have gone on to quote. But pride and arrogance does not allow questions. People who feel like they are sufficient unto themselves and need no teacher do as you did and ignore the things in the Bible that they do not want to see in favor of what they think should be.

In John 4:24, the Lord Jesus was teaching that the Lord God is not restricted to the material universe. He is Spirit in nature, uncreated Spirit, that is, and is thus completely independent of the Universe that He created. This does not mean that only the Holy Spirit is God, and thus that there is only One Person Who is God and this Person is the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. That conclusion ignores everything else that the Bible teaches.

In Matthew 28:19, the Lord Jesus granted the Apostles and the rest of the Church the authority to baptize or unite or identify sinful human beings with the Trinity through the proclaiming of the Gospel. Compare John 15:5; 17:21; 1 Corinthians 6:17; Ephesians 2:11-22. When we believe the Gospel, the Holy Spirit baptizes us into the Trinity, that is, He makes us one with the Trinity and one with each other. The word "baptism" means "joining" or "uniting" or "dipping into," so the translation in that verse is more meaningfully "baptizing them INTO the Name (that is, the Person) of the Father, [the Person] of the Son, and [the Person] of the Holy Spirit." Apart from the fact that "name" refers not only to the specific word used to identify a given person, both in ancient times and in modern times, and in the Bible as well, but also to the whole person or reputation, there is also the fact that the word translated "in" in that verse is also translated "into" in the footnote. It is better to translate "into" in light of the rest of Scripture.

Jesus Christ does sit in the Throne of God, which He Himself also calls "My Father's Throne" (Revelation 3:21). In Revelation 4:2-3; 5:6-7; and Daniel 7:9, 13-14, it is clear too that there are two Persons associated with the Throne of God, not just One. So, although I completely agree that Jesus Christ is the Only True God, I completely reject any notion that the Father and the Holy Spirit are not also the Only True God and also completely separate from Jesus Christ.

As for the Lord Jesus being the Holy Spirit because He said that the Holy Spirit will only come after He went back into Heaven, that is so wrong. Not only is it clear from John 14:16-17 that the Three are separate Persons from Each Other, the Scriptures are clear that the Lord Jesus is not currently on Earth. He is in the Third Heaven seated at the Right Hand of the Father in His Chariot Throne waiting until it is time for Him to return and take back rulership over the world (see Acts 3:21; 7:55-56).

Obviously, I completely agree that the Lord Jesus is the same God as the God in the Old Testament. In fact, it was Him Who kept appearing to the prophets and the great believers of the Old Testament. The Father has never appeared to anyone on Earth. John had to be taken in the Spirit to the Third Heaven to see the Father seated in His Throne. The Lord Jesus was always the One Who appeared in the Old Testament (see, for example, John 12:41, cf. Isaiah 6:1). So, I am in total agreement with this, but it is not the correct conclusion to make that because the Lord Jesus is also the God in the Old Testament, He is the same Person as the Father and the Holy Spirit, that is false. He is not. He is The Eternal Word. He has always been God. But so has the Father and so has the Holy Spirit.

Needless to say, I agree too that the Lord Jesus is the God that we who believe are waiting for to return. Indeed He is (see Jude 1:14-15, cf. Revelation 19:11-21; 1 Corinthians 15:22-28). But, again, that does not mean that there is no Trinity. God the Word Who became Man to die for our sins is the same One Who will return to crush all rebellion against God.

I also agree that it is God Who saves us from our sins through His incredible Sacrifice (Philippians 2:5-8 ). There is no doubt of this. But, again, it does not mean that there is no Trinity. There most certainly is, as Philippians 2:9-11 and Romans 1:3-4 clearly teach.

Finally, that the Lord Jesus created all things is without doubt as John 1:3 and Colossians 1:16-17 among very many other passages teach, but it does not mean at all that there is no Trinity just as Colossians 1:3, 19 and Ephesians 1:17-23 among a vast multitude of passages teach as well.

It is not wise to dismiss or distort parts of the Bible in favor of others that appear to endorse a pet idea that you may want to have. The Bible is One Truth. If you are thinking something on the basis of this or that passage in the Bible and another passage challenges it, it is better to slow down and seek the help of a gifted and prepared pastor-teacher to avoid plunging into mad heresy and blasphemy (see Peter's warning in 2 Peter 2:16). We have pastor-teachers in the Church for a reason (Ephesians 4:11-16). Take advantage of them.

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Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by sulasa07(m): 6:23pm On Sep 22, 2019
bingbagbo:
The Trinity doctrine is a lie-God is not three persons

Even the devil knows God is one.
Deuteronomy 6:4 makes it clear, that the Lord our God is one. His name is I AM, not WE ARE! I believe you are already vexed by this truth, but beloved I tell you, God is not three persons.

What did the Lord Jesus Christ tell us about God in John 4:24? He said God is a spirit. Not spirits but spirit, singular. God is Holy, therefore God is non other than the Holy spirit, who fully tabernacles in Christ Jesus and died on the cross.

Here is where the ignorance emanates from, Matthew 28:19 where Jesus asked his disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and the son and the Holy spirit. Many misunderstand this in thinking that, God is/are three distinct persons, No! The disciples indeed went to baptize, in what name? The name Jesus. The name Jesus is thus the name of the father , the son and the holy spirit.

In heaven, Jesus sits on the throne of God. Jesus Christ is the only true God. A Christian is one who worships Jesus Christ. Ever wondered why, the Holy spirit could only be sent by Jesus after he had ascended? It is because, this same Jesus Christ is that same holy spirit.

Don't believe and follow blindly, I was also brainwashed to believe God is three persons, that is the biggest heresy. Jesus Christ is that same YHWH of the old testament. Jesus Christ is the God Christians are waiting for to come. Jesus Christ is the one who shed his blood for the sins of man. He says in the old testament that, apart from him there is no saviour. Jesus Christ created all things including you.

1 Timothy 3:16

May the Lord grant you understanding!
Them go soon Yari for you,we've been telling them all this while but they will tell you you don't have the spirit in you,the same acclaimed spirit that tells different people different things on the same issue
Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by bingbagbo(m): 6:34pm On Sep 22, 2019
Ihedinobi3:

I do know Him Whom I have believed, and it has pleased Him to grant me understanding in His Ways as I have learned from one whom He gifted to me as a teacher. So the problem is not me at all, it is you.

The Bible is not whatever you wish it to be. It does not teach in any way that there is no Father or Holy Spirit except the Lord Jesus. There are Three Who are the One God. The Father is a separate Person from the Lord Jesus Who in turn is a different Person from the Holy Spirit.

I did not bother to address your arguments because I thought that anyone who really loves the Truth and respects it would rather be asking questions rather than teaching a blatant falsehood like you did. The right thing to do is to ask why the Bible says what you quoted when in fact it also says things like what I have gone on to quote. But pride and arrogance does not allow questions. People who feel like they are sufficient unto themselves and need no teacher do as you did and ignore the things in the Bible that they do not want to see in favor of what they think should be.

In John 4:24, the Lord Jesus was teaching that the Lord God is not restricted to the material universe. He is Spirit in nature, uncreated Spirit, that is, and is thus completely independent of the Universe that He created. This does not mean that only the Holy Spirit is God, and thus that there is only One Person Who is God and this Person is the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. That conclusion ignores everything else that the Bible teaches.

In Matthew 28:19, the Lord Jesus granted the Apostles and the rest of the Church the authority to baptize or unite or identify sinful human beings with the Trinity through the proclaiming of the Gospel. Compare John 15:5; 17:21; 1 Corinthians 6:17; Ephesians 2:11-22. When we believe the Gospel, the Holy Spirit baptizes us into the Trinity, that is, He makes us one with the Trinity and one with each other. The word "baptism" means "joining" or "uniting" or "dipping into," so the translation in that verse is more meaningfully "baptizing them INTO the Name (that is, the Person) of the Father, [the Person] of the Son, and [the Person] of the Holy Spirit." Apart from the fact that "name" refers not only to the specific word used to identify a given person, both in ancient times and in modern times, and in the Bible as well, but also to the whole person or reputation, there is also the fact that the word translated "in" in that verse is also translated "into" in the footnote. It is better to translate "into" in light of the rest of Scripture.

Jesus Christ does sit in the Throne of God, which He Himself also calls "My Father's Throne" (Revelation 3:21). In Revelation 4:2-3; 5:6-7; and Daniel 7:9, 13-14, it is clear too that there are two Persons associated with the Throne of God, not just One. So, although I completely agree that Jesus Christ is the Only True God, I completely reject any notion that the Father and the Holy Spirit are not also the Only True God and also completely separate from Jesus Christ.

As for the Lord Jesus being the Holy Spirit because He said that the Holy Spirit will only come after He went back into Heaven, that is so wrong. Not only is it clear from John 14:16-17 that the Three are separate Persons from Each Other, the Scriptures are clear that the Lord Jesus is not currently on Earth. He is in the Third Heaven seated at the Right Hand of the Father in His Chariot Throne waiting until it is time for Him to return and take back rulership over the world (see Acts 3:21; 7:55-56).

Obviously, I completely agree that the Lord Jesus is the same God as the God in the Old Testament. In fact, it was Him Who kept appearing to the prophets and the great believers of the Old Testament. The Father has never appeared to anyone on Earth. John had to be taken in the Spirit to the Third Heaven to see the Father seated in His Throne. The Lord Jesus was always the One Who appeared in the Old Testament (see, for example, John 12:41, cf. Isaiah 6:1). So, I am in total agreement with this, but it is not the correct conclusion to make that because the Lord Jesus is also the God in the Old Testament, He is the same Person as the Father and the Holy Spirit, that is false. He is not. He is The Eternal Word. He has always been God. But so has the Father and so has the Holy Spirit.

Needless to say, I agree too that the Lord Jesus is the God that we who believe are waiting for to return. Indeed He is (see Jude 1:14-15, cf. Revelation 19:11-21; 1 Corinthians 15:22-28). But, again, that does not mean that there is no Trinity. God the Word Who became Man to die for our sins is the same One Who will return to crush all rebellion against God.

I also agree that it is God Who saves us from our sins through His incredible Sacrifice (Philippians 2:5-8 ). There is no doubt of this. But, again, it does not mean that there is no Trinity. There most certainly is, as Philippians 2:9-11 and Romans 1:3-4 clearly teach.

Finally, that the Lord Jesus created all things is without doubt as John 1:3 and Colossians 1:16-17 among very many other passages teach, but it does not mean at all that there is no Trinity just as Colossians 1:3, 19 and Ephesians 1:17-23 among a vast multitude of passages teach as well.

It is not wise to dismiss or distort parts of the Bible in favor of others that appear to endorse a pet idea that you may want to have. The Bible is One Truth. If you are thinking something on the basis of this or that passage in the Bible and another passage challenges it, it is better to slow down and seek the help of a gifted and prepared pastor-teacher to avoid plunging into mad heresy and blasphemy (see Peter's warning in 2 Peter 2:16). We have pastor-teachers in the Church for a reason (Ephesians 4:11-16). Take advantage of them.



Lol, I have reasoned like this before

God is one person, never three

Jesus is God
Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by bingbagbo(m): 6:37pm On Sep 22, 2019
It is laughable to argue that, God who is a spirit (John 4:24) has another person with him called the holy spirit,

He is the same Holy spirit

Trinity is unscriptural

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Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by Ihedinobi3: 7:13pm On Sep 22, 2019
bingbagbo:




Lol, I have reasoned like this before

God is one person, never three

Jesus is God
I doubt that you ever have. But if you did, what a loss to you.

The Lord God is One. And there are Three Who are God, according to the Scriptures. Your own word is of no consequence in this matter.

Indeed, the Lord Jesus is God forever.

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Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by bingbagbo(m): 7:29pm On Sep 22, 2019
Ihedinobi3:

I doubt that you ever have. But if you did, what a loss to you.

The Lord God is One. And there are Three Who are God, according to the Scriptures. Your own word is of no consequence in this matter.

Indeed, the Lord Jesus is God forever.

The bolded violates Deuteronomy 6:4 and the entire scriptures, God is not 3

In John s revelations, He saw one seated on the throne of God

Discard traditions of men and embrace truth. God is not a 3 faced being

God is one

He is I AM, not WE ARE!

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Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by Ihedinobi3: 7:53pm On Sep 22, 2019
bingbagbo:


The bolded violates Deuteronomy 6:4 and the entire scriptures, God is not 3

In John s revelations, He saw one seated on the throne of God

Discard traditions of men and embrace truth. God is not a 3 faced being

God is one

He is I AM, not WE ARE!
You're wrong.

In John 17 where, incidentally, the Lord Jesus is praying to the Father, He says,

I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one...
John 17:22

This is besides everything I said including the numerous references that I offered in my previous responses. Obviously, Deutoronomy 6:4 does not say that there is no Trinity. It in fact affirms that God is One God. The Father, the Lord Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are in perfect Unity. That is why they are One God, not Three. But They are obviously Three Separate Persons.

Indeed, John did see One seated on the Throne. It is from that One that the Lamb receives the scroll whose seals He promptly broke. If Jesus is the Father and the Holy Spirit, and the Lamb is a symbol of Him, then why is He receiving the scroll from Someone else Who is seated on the Throne in Heaven?

I have not appealed to any traditions in this conversation. Rather, I have listed and offered several biblical references and explanations that you seem to not care about. I certainly have not said that God is a three-faced being, those are your own words. I have said that according to the Scriptures, there is One God and Three Persons Who are One God.

God is indeed One. I have never argued otherwise.

God is indeed I AM. The Father is I AM. The Lord Jesus is I AM. The Holy Spirit is I AM. Doesn't mean that They are all one person, it only means that They are in perfect Unity, One in essence.

The Name "I AM" is really just "IS." It is the definition of God. God is that which simply "IS." There is no explanation for God's Existence, so He says of Himself, "I WILL BE WHAT I AM." God's Existence is perfect and immutable. It depends on absolutely nothing, so when God says that He is the "IS," He is really saying that He self-exists. That is why He gave Moses the Name. He was not teaching Moses that there are Three Who are God. He was teaching Him that He was the True God, the Only One Who deserves Worship. The truth of the Trinity is undiminished by this. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God and worthy to be worshipped. The whole Bible bears that out.
Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by xproducer: 8:19pm On Sep 22, 2019
@ OP -

The truth is that we, as human beings, do not have full understanding of the Person of GOD, and all the work that He does. Mercifully, GOD has revealed much, including that HE is GOD alone and there is no other GOD but Him (Isaiah 44:6-8), and that there are three Persons, separately identified in the GOD Head - "For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one." - 1 John 5:7

Have you ever noticed in Genesis 1:26, where GOD Himself declares - "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

Simply pray to GOD, in the name of the One - The Lord JESUS - whose name is above all names (Acts 4:12), the only One by Whom we can ever have redemption.

Peace.
Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by bingbagbo(m): 8:33pm On Sep 22, 2019
xproducer:
@ OP -

The truth is that we, as human beings, do not have full understanding of the Person of GOD, and all the work that He does. Mercifully, GOD has revealed much, including that HE is GOD alone and there is no other GOD but Him (Isaiah 44:6-8), and that there are three Persons, separately identified in the GOD Head - "For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one." - 1 John 5:7

Have you ever noticed in Genesis 1:26, where GOD Himself declares - "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

Simply pray to GOD, in the name of the One - The Lord JESUS - whose name is above all names (Acts 4:12), the only One by Whom we can ever have redemption.

Peace.

Lol, hope you can see the contradictions in your own post

In one breadth God is one and in another God is three persons, that is the biggest heresy

What you lack is understanding, the son is actually God in human form and not a different person.

There are three the bear record, the spirit the water and the blood, this is no trinity

When Jesus prayed, it was the flesh that prayed to the spirit

God is not 3
Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by Janosky: 11:20pm On Sep 22, 2019
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@ 2)
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*@3)
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@4)
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Once And For All!!!
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**@cool

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*****
Bingbagbo , the internet NEVER forgets.....

The Trinity scam you've been peddling since 19gbidigbidi has messed up your brain.
You're still more confused than ever......
No wonder, these Trinitarians are attacking you like kilode.....

There are obvious signs in this your new thread that the viral load of Trinity has not been "purged" from your system......
Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by Janosky: 11:33pm On Sep 22, 2019
sulasa07:

Them go soon Yari for you,we've been telling them all this while but they will tell you you don't have the spirit in you,the same acclaimed spirit that tells different people different things on the same issue

The OP is more confused than ever....
His topic contradicts his post, a thorough scrutiny exposes this fact.
Bingbagbo's viral load of the Trinity scam is extreme.

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Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by Janosky: 12:08am On Sep 23, 2019
bingbagbo:


**@1
The Trinity doctrine is a lie-God is not three persons

Even the devil knows God is one.
but beloved I tell you, God is not three persons.

What did the Lord Jesus Christ tell us about God in John 4:24? He said God is a spirit. Not spirits but spirit, singular. God is Holy, therefore God is non other than the Holy spirit, who fully tabernacles in Christ Jesus and died on the cross.


@2)
Here is where the ignorance emanates from, Matthew 28:19 where Jesus asked his disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and the son and the Holy spirit. Many misunderstand this in thinking that, God is/are three distinct persons, No! The disciples indeed went to baptize, in what name? The name Jesus. The name Jesus is thus the name of the father , the son and the holy spirit.

@3)
In heaven, Jesus sits on the throne of God. Jesus Christ is the only true God. A Christian is one who worships Jesus Christ. Ever wondered why, the Holy spirit could only be sent by Jesus after he had ascended? It is because, this same Jesus Christ is that same holy spirit.

Don't believe and follow blindly, I was also brainwashed to believe God is three persons, that is the biggest heresy. Jesus Christ is that same YHWH of the old testament.





May the Lord grant you understanding!

@1

The OP says "but beloved I tell you, God is not three persons.". BUT, "God is non other than the Holy spirit, who fully tabernacles in Christ Jesus"....... = Trinity.


****@2)

The name Jesus is thus the name of the father , the son and the holy spirit"= Trinity.


@3)
"Jesus Christ is the only true God"....
this same Jesus Christ is that same holy spirit."
"Jesus Christ is that same YHWH of the old testament. "= Trinity.


*#$ PROOF, Bingbagbo has lost it ......
Gbagbo. is more confused than before.....
This guy NEVER repent. grin
** Ephesians 1:3,17.
Apostle Paul is praying for you to receive sense.....
Re: The Trininty Doctrine Is A Lie-God Is Not Three Persons! by Janosky: 12:12am On Sep 23, 2019
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