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The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Nobody: 6:15pm On Nov 09, 2010
With the bombing of Obolo rig by MEND members who claim they are not being included in the scheme of things. Have we all succeeded in creating an unsustainable monster called AMNESTY PROGRAMME?

Boyloaf, Ateke, Fara, Soboma, Tompolo  . . . all of these boys were former thieves who are now being paid allowances by Government because they took up arms to openly rob the state and claimed they were fighting for better share of oil wealth.

We now have a system where able bodied men are kept in camps and being paid by the Government for doing no work at all, just to keep them silent. Are we promoting a situation where in other to be heard by the Government you simply despoil, kidnap and bomb others and then Government will call you to the negotiation table and start paying you benefit?

If you are a thief you deserve benefit, but if you are law abiding and trying to do the right things then you deserve no support from the Government.


How long can Government continue paying groups of youths for doing no work for anybody?
How long can this scheme continue given that these groups are bound to be even more larger as more youths will cause more trouble in other to get a share of the National Cake?
Are thieves who masqurade as Militants more deserving of benefits and handouts from Government than the weak, sick, old and disable in our society?
What is the implication of this unsustainable scheme on Nigeria's rising debt profile and hence the economy of the country?
Do militants deserve more reward than lawful Niger-Delta citizens who against all odds are still leading their lives legitimately?

Are we simply building a society that rewards criminality and tells law abiding citizens that you are on you own?

Every criminal in Nigeria now wants an amnesty programme.

Have your say, what is your view on Nigeria's New and Curious benefit system
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by kpozite(m): 6:39pm On Nov 09, 2010
the programme was appluded when it was started, it is unfortunate that it went this way but then this should be expected because they did not show remorse in the first place before granting then the Amnesty. But now what will happen is there going to be another amnesty for them? because the will cause a goood deal of havoc before govenrmnt look their way. But these guys are really holding the govt by the balls.
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Nobody: 7:03pm On Nov 09, 2010
I believe if we have a charismatic leader who can hold his head up high and say that all he is doing is to better the country and not looting our commonwealth, this issue of militancy will end.

Because what will happen is if you have such a popular leader and you try to hold him to ransome claiming to be a militant he will simply smoke you out.

The Militants are not anymore responsible to the people than the Government

and the last time I checked Government has not officially abdicated that responsibility.

This whole amnesty programme is a waste of everybody's time. It will never work because the amnesty was designed to keep the militants silent while the PDP looting continues. So violence will never end. It was never designed to solve anything.

An honest amnesty comes with a consequence. If the Militants deviate from the plans you roll in the tanks. But clearly a corrupt Government does not have the moral authority to deal with these road side thieves like they should.
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Beaf: 7:09pm On Nov 09, 2010
What do we do about the almajiri's in the North? They are a worse problem for the country.
They are a pack of deliberately under educated kids who are trained to be souless killers. From Boko Haram to Jos massacres of women and babies, whose corpses they duly burnt, almajiri's are the scourge of Nigeria. We will see their hand again in 2011, that is the real problem we need to be talking about.
The scary thing is that there are 10 million almajiri's by official figures!
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Nobody: 7:19pm On Nov 09, 2010
Beaf:

What do we do about the almajiri's in the North? They are a worse problem for the country.
They are a pack of deliberately under educated kids who are trained to be souless killers. From Boko Haram to Jos massacres of women and babies, whose corpses they duly burnt, almajiri's are the scourge of Nigeria. We will see their hand again in 2011, that is the real problem we need to be talking about.
The scary thing is that there are 10 million almajiri's by official figures!

Anybody who call themselves Alamajiri or BokoHaram found to be lawless should be rounded up if necessary with tanks, smoked out if they resist and sent to court and eventual jail.

I challenge you to call for the same to be done to the criminal MEND in Niger-Delta who only yesterday kidnapped Expatriate Workers and giving Nigeria a bad name. Only yesterday the US State Department warned its citizens in Nigeria to be security conscious.

I suspect in your next 5 posts you will still fail to denounce criminality. Disappoint me and suprise me by calling for the criminals in ND to be dealt with.
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Beaf: 7:43pm On Nov 09, 2010
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Dude, you're just so consumed with things that don't belong to you that reason has departed you. Please devote just half the strength you use up in your futile cries for free oil to the education of your almajiri brothers; do that, see the results and you wouldn't need to be a parasite anymore.

Your brethren on NL are clamouring for Arewa and freedom. They are brimming with confidence and believe they can make, but here you are, practicing to be a better parasite. Na wa!

At 10 million in the North alone, the almajiri population is more than that of most countries in the World. Without almajiri's, we wouldnt lose thousands to senseless slaughter every year for religious and other equally stup!d, hairbrained reasons. Count the thousands of lives that have been lost to almajiri's and compare that with the tens due to militants; does it make sense? Or is it because almajiri's kill mostly Middle Belters and Southerners that you don't give a damn?

Why can't you solve the almajiri problem first so you can be taken seriously?

10 fcking million almijiri's!!! cry cry cry
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Nobody: 7:45pm On Nov 09, 2010
You have a second chance

to reject and denounce criminality in the ND

Have another attempt
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Nobody: 7:51pm On Nov 09, 2010
I have denounced and rejected BokoHaram

Why can't you reject the Kidnappings in ND?

Are you a beneficiary?
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Nobody: 7:58pm On Nov 09, 2010
Shame on you beaf

You are a little kid

How can this country move forward when you can not reject the crimes in your backyard

it is for folks like you that known thieves of previous years have now successfully converted themselves to freedom fighters

How can we move forward when you can not denounce criminals?

Shame on you beaf, not only have you shown to be Jonathan's myopic psycophant. You have also shown that you are benefiting from the crime going on in Delta State.

THIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Nobody: 8:00pm On Nov 09, 2010
MODERATOR PLEASE I DID NOT ASK FOR DISTURBING PICTURES OF BURNT NIGERIANS ON MY THREAD

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT A CURIOUS BENEFIT SYSTEM AND CLEARLY HAS NOTHING TO WITH BURNT NIGERIANS

PLEASE KINDLY REMOVE THOSE PICTURES FOR ME. BEAF HAS COME TO DESTROY THIS THREAD WITH HIS WARRI AND EDWIN CLARKE BEHAVIOUR
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Beaf: 8:05pm On Nov 09, 2010
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Calm down, I am only pointing out to you that there are much worse problems around you, both for your local society and the wider country. Take care of those first, they are outside the FG's hands and stop waxing hysterical about problems that are being taken care off.

Don't let the inordinate love of oil blind you to reality.
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by marcdunu: 8:11pm On Nov 09, 2010
@OP

Am beginning to rethink the amnesty programme and whether enough thought process went into it.

It is clear we now have a loop where every thug can now cause more violence just to get into the amnesty programme.

very unfortunate.
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by OYBMEND: 8:13pm On Nov 09, 2010
I regret to say the Government amnesty has failed.
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by benchwest: 8:30pm On Nov 09, 2010
krendo

  i can clearly tell that you felt discused with the posted pics that shows the bad acts against humanity being carried out by the so called militants in the north,
my point is not to support any militancy in any of our region in this country as long as we stay together as a nation

despite that,the bottom line you must accept is that there is great difference of idealogy being pursued by the NL militants,
they figth for freedom,they pursue the  freedom of the Right of the people of that region, and this fight has been on for decades,
though the fight previously was fought  in a different way,
diplomaticall,y and lives of men and woman were lost in the process of that fight,
( saro  wiwa and others) murdered by northern dictator

i have a question for you, have you ever heard that the militants in Niger delta has attacked any Hausa quoter  in that region during this struggle?
of curse no,
so criminalising the NIL is unfair on Ur side dude,
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Beaf: 8:40pm On Nov 09, 2010
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Don't mind krendo. 90% of his posts on NL are about his hatred for the ND (check his profile - click "show last posts of this person"wink. He keeps making these weird posts, hoping to gain some disciples.
How can any rational Northerner make the Niger Delta struggle his pastime when they have a problem that is several thousand times worse in the almajiri's?

Krendo is a shameless tribalist.
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Nobody: 8:49pm On Nov 09, 2010
benchwest:

krendo

   i can clearly tell that you felt discused with the posted pics that shows the bad acts against humanity being carried out by the so called militants in the north,
my point is not to support any militancy in any of our region in this country as long as we stay together as a nation

despite that,the bottom line you must accept is that there is great difference of idealogy being pursued by the NL militants,
they figth for freedom,they pursue the  freedom of the Right of the people of that region, and this fight has been on for decades,
though the fight previously was fought  in a different way,
diplomaticall,y and lives of men and woman were lost in the process of that fight,
( saro  wiwa and others) murdered by northern dictator

i have a question for you, have you ever heard that the militants in Niger delta has attacked any Hausa quoter  in that region during this struggle?
of curse no,
so criminalising the NIL is unfair on your side dude,



Have you assessed History of your freedom fighters before 1999? They were thieves!!!!!!!!!

It is no co-insidence that of all the millions made by these Militants there is no record of them building even one bore hole for people to drink clean water.

These thieves are simply legitimising their criminal acts in the name of oil. That is the fact.

There is no difference between MEND or BokoHaram, they are all thieves and terrosists.
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Environer: 8:53pm On Nov 09, 2010
Krendo oh just shut the Bleep up. A northerner has nothing to say about militancy in the south.
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Beaf: 8:54pm On Nov 09, 2010
@Krendo

Dude, what are your proposals for the [size=14pt]10 million almajiri's?[/size]
Kano did an almajiri cencus in 2006 and counted 1.2 million almajiri's in their domain alone!

Mr. Tribalist, what are your proposals for that very serious problem in your own backyard?
Re: The Legacy Of Amnesty: Nigeria's Curious emerging "Benefit System" by Nobody: 9:00pm On Nov 09, 2010
Environer:

Krendo oh just shut the bleep up. A northerner has nothing to say about militancy in the south.

Am I not a Nigerian?

I have no interest in who wants to waste themselves as militant nor on any community who want to continue to be wasted by Militants.

All I am saying is that Government should start fighting crime instead of bribing criminals to keep quiet.

Crime must be tackled wherever they are found whether in the North or in the South.

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