Omar09:


I am not twisting anything you said. In fact most of what y'all said was going good till y'all started arguing even to the point you Ladycewhy had to start making baseless argument with Jonnyspute idk if I got his name right.

My own is this, answer the questions Pansophist asked nothing more. All you and your folks are doing is to beat about the bush and not hitting the questions head on.

which question? Can you rephrase it? Since you seem to be stuck on the damn bloody question,

Ladycewhy:
which question? Can you rephrase it? Since you seem to be stuck on the damn bloody question,

Here you are:

isn't it child abuse to deny a child the ability to bond with his/her father? secondly, why is it that a man that is good for a sperm donor and financial support not also good to be present in his child's life?

Omar09:


Here you are:

And this is what i have been asking , can you point out where i said so? How is it even possible for a husband to be denied bonding time with this child? Like a real family setting,so you as a father wants to bond with your child ,the wife will come and say no? Does that even make sense to you?

Which is why i said before that you and him lack basic comprehension,abeg ask me another question,this one nor follow at all, you and your the accuser better find something else to hold on to ,cos this isnt working ,what utter rubbish.


I started the thread well so you say but you and the dolt pansophist just had find something to twist for the sake of argument, this is a clear case of "trying to put words in a person's mouth" , oh yes ,the future is female ,if any of you feel pressed about it, do well to hug the nearest transformer ,nonsense.

Ladycewhy:
"Women have nothing to offer but sex"
"Women bring nothing to the table"

I am sure these phrases sounds familiar. I have noticed there is a psychological conditioning going on ,when you are told you are not good enough you dont strive to be better.You are made as a woman to accept what is thrown at you and maintain the status quo after all ,this generation of women have it better than those of old , you should be grateful the patriarchy society even allowed you some privileges like education since girl education was one time a taboo, you should be grateful, You might even be told, the only good thing you are for as a woman is popping out babies.

Many women do not know a woman is the backbone of any nation,the nurturer, extinction of a population depends on women. If your lineage will survive it depends on the woman which is why women and children are the main target of war.


Do you also know that as a woman you can change the future? Yes, you can by how you raise your children today, how you nurture them and shape their though process. What is it about society treatment towards women you want to change ? start by shaping the thought process of your children towards that direction,do not neglect your sons to be another woman's headache , teach your daughters self esteem and self respect, you are the nurturer, the key to the next adult to be released into the society is in your hands, this is the time to be parentally alert to how your children respond and see issues, change begins with you.

Some of these people are sourcing for women for their illegal activities, they wont say it openly but that's what they're about. It doesnt excuse their behaviour though.

I am all for this...good read!

Ladycewhy:
"Women have nothing to offer but sex"
"Women bring nothing to the table"

I am sure these phrases sounds familiar. I have noticed there is a psychological conditioning going on ,when you are told you are not good enough you dont strive to be better.You are made as a woman to accept what is thrown at you and maintain the status quo after all ,this generation of women have it better than those of old , you should be grateful the patriarchy society even allowed you some privileges like education since girl education was one time a taboo, you should be grateful, You might even be told, the only good thing you are for as a woman is popping out babies.

Many women do not know a woman is the backbone of any nation,the nurturer, extinction of a population depends on women. If your lineage will survive it depends on the woman which is why women and children are the main target of war.


Do you also know that as a woman you can change the future? Yes, you can by how you raise your children today, how you nurture them and shape their though process. What is it about society treatment towards women you want to change ? start by shaping the thought process of your children towards that direction,do not neglect your sons to be another woman's headache , teach your daughters self esteem and self respect, you are the nurturer, the key to the next adult to be released into the society is in your hands, this is the time to be parentally alert to how your children respond and see issues, change begins with you.

Mryacks:
I am all for this...good read!

thanks !

Alexaonfleek:
I don't agree @ bolded
Relationships where women bring more to the table,they're still expected to be submissive to the man.The man won't tolerate the woman trying to call the shots,as you said
It's just something that has to do with the male ego.
That's one of the reasons why men feel that they have more worth than women.

Is it not foolish to live your life based on people's expectations?

I was not talking about people's expectations. It is not men that set these expectations, it is the society. So it is not about the male ego. Everybody desire respect irrespective of gender.
It is the same society that expects the man to provide, protect and sacrifice. So stop being sentimental.

The woman does not have to be submissive if she is truly bringing more to the table. If she chooses to be submissive, it will be her choice.
The only exception is if the woman is foolish. There are foolish men too.

People should stop blaming the opposite gender for their own foolishness.
Nobody owes you anything.

RottenBanana:


Is it not foolish to live your life based on people's expectations?

I was not talking about people's expectations. It is not men that set these expectations, it is the society. So it is not about the male ego. Everybody desire respect irrespective of gender.
It is the same society that expects the man to provide, protect and sacrifice. So stop being sentimental.

The woman does not have to be submissive if she is truly bringing more to the table . If she chooses to be submissive, it will be her choice.
The only exception is if the woman is foolish. There are foolish men too.

People should stop blaming the opposite gender for their own foolishness.
Nobody owes you anything.

the bolded ,na you talk am o. We have noted it down.

Omar09:


But leave men alone no. If we contribute subjugation and mayhem to you females, then stop accepting our proposals, stop being with us.

Someone pointed here that without women that nature will not continue. Yeah. Remove all the men in this equation called life, who fertilizes the egg you all carry. It goes both ways. Y'all are just misguided leeches. I'm not against y'all raising kids with morals, by all means do it, it's for the beneficial of mankind and not womankind.

Work on yourselves lots. You can't work or change anything without first accepting that thing for what it is. You can't work on or change men without first accepting men for whom they are.

Women are misguided leeches?
I no fit laugh abeg.

Nobody forces men to give women money or material things, nobody holds a gun to their heads before they give. You men should stop giving women anything if you dont want to. It's that simple. While you guys are at it, stop asking women out, stop contacting them for sex or any type of intimacy. Leave them alone as well.

I am very vocal on this forum about how damaging and oppressive traditional idea of marriage is to women and I always sound it that women dont need to be desperate to get married or tied to some man. Save the advice you gave me about leaving men alone. I don sabi am before.

Women are leeches my butt, as if your fellow men were not the ones who put laws in place to keep women economically inferior to you, as if your fellow men were not the ones who compiled ridiculous religious laws about how women need to submit and obey husband while the man provides. Unfortunately for you guys there is global economic meltdown and you have realised how important it is for women to be independent instead of waiting for men to provide like religions teach them.

Just few years ago there were popular slangs that made fun of ambitious women, one of them was PhD. Men would say women's PhD is different from men's PhD, women's PhD is Pikin, Husband and Degree from university ie the most important thing for them was to graduate and get married and have pikin instead of going for an actual PhD,
Another slang was, " Na kitchen everything go end" that one was usually said to an ambitious woman that wanted to pursue money making and business instead of getting married.
It's even recently women started getting bold enough to buy cars and live alone if they aren't married because in the recent past, any woman living large like that would scare off prospective suitors into thinking she would not make a good wife because she is wealthy.
The list goes on, society and religion taught women to depend on men and men liked it initially because it gave them power over women and married men could do anything they felt like to their wives and she would have no choice but to put up and shut up because she had no way of surviving without him.

Now Buhari's next level don dey show una pepper you have suddenly realised its important for women to make money like men