Evidence that Catholics worship Mary.

    Catholics deny that they worship Mary they insist that they only honour and venerate her this is far from the truth as the facts prove that they do. We will  look at the meaning of to venerate and to worship.
    Venerate means to value someone or feel great respect for them it also means to have and to show a lot of respect for somebody especially someone considered  Holy or very important (Syn) Revere.
     Worship the practice of showing respect for God or a god by saying prayers, praises and to love and admire somebody very much.

The question is there anything that Christains do inorder to demonstrate their worship or devotion to God that the Catholics do not do to Mary? The answer is none.
Christains  pray to God.
Catholics pray to Mary.
Christains sing praises and songs to God.
Catholics praise Mary with Songs and names.
Christains seek for God's guidance and protection. Catholics ask the same  from Mary. Christains ask forgiveness of sin from God.
Catholics also ask Mary for forgiveness of sin.
Catholics refer to Mary as Mother most merciful,
The Bible states that only God is most merciful.
In the Bible God forbids Christains from bowing to images and statutes of any person or object in Heaven or Earth but Catholics bow to images of Mary.
The word of God is clear that only God is Holy even Jesus rebuked a man that called him good( Holy) he insisted that only his father, God was holy but Catholics refer to Mary as Holy(Holy Mother)
Lady of peace.
Matthew  19:17  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

They call her Queen of Heaven,mother of god's,holy mother  e.t.c. This is because they see her as a diety rather than a mortal woman who humbled herself before God and was chosen by God as a vessel of Honour.
Their claim that they pray to Mary to intercede on their behalf  becomes  viod when  you consider a sample of their prayer's there is a big difference between praying to someone and praying on behalf of someone, it is obvious Catholics pray to Mary. It is also a fact that Mary is dead and cannot hear their prayers because the Dead know nothing.plsams88:10, Ecclesiastes 9:5, Isaiah 8:9,

The issue of Worship is very important to God. If God did not tolerate Satan's desire to covert God's worship why would God tolerate Catholics worshipping Mary. even Angels refused to receive worship in the Bible
Rev 22:8, Romans 1:15; Colossians 2:18; Revelation 19:10

  Apostle Paul and Barnabas also refused to be worshipped in the Bible. Acts 14:1-end
Acts  14:11 And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.

If honouring Mary means giving her names,singing praises to her,bowing to her and making prayers to her Paul would not have objected to it when he was given similar praises and exltation.
Acts  14:14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,

In Conclusion.
The evidence and facts does not support claims by Catholics  that they only honour Mary they practically worship Mary.
Even great men like David,Abraham,Moses who were highly honoured by God have never been object of worship(honour) like Mary has been to Catholics.
Praying singing,bowing,praising and showing Revere to Mary or anyone is not a sign of honour but worship it is better they acknowledgment it and make amends

Thank you.

Here is a sample of their prayer's to Mary.
Catholic Online / Prayers
We fly to your protection, most holy Mother of God; please
listen to our petitions and needs, and deliver us from all
dangers, ever glorious and blessed Virgin Mary.
Mary, our model and mother, by your obedience and patience
you have taught us how to be true children of God. Please
help us by your powerful assistance to overcome all our
weaknesses, and to fulfill perfectly our tasks in life.
By your compassionate aid may we ever stand in spirit with
you beneath the cross of Christ so that we may also rejoice
with you in your divine Son's triumphant victory over sin and
death.
In your maternal kindness help us to be faithful to prayers in
the company of God's Church as you were one with the
Apostles in the upper room as you waited for the promised
Spirit of Pentecost.
With your gracious assistance may we be near you in the glory
of Christ's kingdom come to sing with you and all the faithful
the eternal praise of God. Amen.
V. O Mary, conceived without sin,
R. Pray for us who have recourse to you.
You are all fair, O Virgin Mary,
You never knew the stain of sin;
You are the glory of Jerusalem,
You, the joy of Israel,
You, the great honor of our people,
You, the advocate of sinners.
O Mary, Virgin most prudent,
O Mary, Mother most merciful,
Pray for us,
Intercede for us with our Lord,
Jesus Christ.

Source:https://www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=118



https://udayton.edu/imri/mary/p/prayers-of-saints-to-mary.php

www.w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/prayers/documents/papa-francesco_preghiere_20130629_maria-lumen-fidei.html

And how is that your problem.

Face front

Here more pics and proof.

silentEXPLOSION:
And how is that your problem.
Face front

It's not my problem, but Christaintity's problem.

blueAgent:



It's not my problem, but Christaintity's problem.

Okay.
You now have my attention.

Let me carefully analyse your original post

And more pics.

silentEXPLOSION:

Okay. You now have my attention.
Let me carefully analyse your original post

Lol....good.

silentEXPLOSION:
And how is that your problem.
Face front

I wonder oh!

Catholic churches have a lot of bad images thanks to its history... Read history, and you'll know the Catholic church has killed many people.. Including William Tyndale, Jan Hus, etc...Check out its controversial popes who had children, corruption at its peak, etc. The only pope I really respect is Pope John Paul II....

Worshipping Mary can be traced to Emperor Constantine's conversation to Christianity and establishing Christianity as a state religion in Rome without really abolishing the traditional gods, so the Roman traditionalists took along some of their ideologies to Chrstianity including 25th December as Christmas day or birthday of the Sungod who they likened to Christ; however I celebrate Christmas
Catholics say they don't worship Mary but they honour Mary

You raised some valid points though, BUT
Catholics do not worship Mary.

She and other handful of saints are venerated.

Now, you said why would they be calling her blessed Mary?
In the bible, Luke 1:48, Mary tells her cousin Elizabeth, “All generations will call me blessed”.

In John 19:27, Jesus on the cross said, “Behold your mother”. And since Mary is not just Jesus’ mother but a mother for all, I see no reason why she shouldn't be venerated.

In your supposed Prayer to Mary,
I think it is simply an intercessory prayer not a direct attempt to obtain favours.

You have a valid argument though.

Factgist:
Catholic churches have a lot of bad images thanks to its history... Read history, and you'll know the Catholic church has killed many people.. Including William Tyndale, Jan Hus, etc...Check out its controversial popes who had children, corruption at its peak, etc. The only pope I really respect is Pope John Paul II....

Worshipping Mary can be traced to Emperor Constantine's conversation to Christianity and establishing Christianity as a state religion in Rome without really abolishing the traditional gods, so the Roman traditionalists took along some of their ideologies to Chrstianity including 25th December as Christmas day or birthday of the Sungod who they likened to Christ; however I celebrate Christmas
Catholics say they don't worship Mary but they honour Mary

You are on point Bro.

Sabby1:


I wonder oh!

Fictions are necessary for the people, and the Truth becomes deadly to those who are not strong enough to contemplate it in all its brilliance. In fact, what can there be in common between the vile multitude and sublime wisdom? The Truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason.


To sow, that others may reap; to
work and plant for those that are to occupy the earth when we are dead; to project our influences far into the future, and live beyond our time; to rule as the Kings of Thought, over men who are yet unborn; to bless with the glorious gifts of Truth and Light and Liberty those who will neither know the name of the giver, nor care in what grave his unregarded ashes repose, is the true office of a true Christain and the proudest destiny of a man. ”

silentEXPLOSION:
You raised some valid points though, BUT
Catholics do not worship Mary.

She and other handful of saints are venerated.

Now, you said why would they be calling her blessed Mary?
In the bible, Luke 1:48, Mary tells her cousin Elizabeth, “All generations will call me blessed”.

In John 19:27, Jesus on the cross said, “Behold your mother”. And since Mary is not just Jesus’ mother but a mother for all, I see no reason why she shouldn't be venerated.

In your supposed Prayer to Mary,
I think it is simply an intercessory prayer not a direct attempt to obtain favours.

You have a valid argument though.

It is not intercessory prayer, take careful look at the words.

blueAgent:



It is not intercessory prayer, take careful look at the words.

Yes. But I want you to understand most of the words are metaphorical, not literal.

silentEXPLOSION:


Yes. But I want you to understand most of the words are metaphorical, not literal.

But you will agree with me that those prayers were made to Mary by Catholics soliciting for her help.

blueAgent:


But you will agree with me that prayer was Mary soliciting for help.

Mary soliciting for help?

OR

Soliciting for help from Mary?

Catholic this! Catholic that! Remove Catholic faithfuls from the face of the world and have a perfect world you dream, maybe that'll make you happy. People always attacking what they don't understand.
I blame those Catholics that doesn't understand their faith and live it.
I will leave you with this Scripture passages but first; Do you have original Scripture to read from, secondly; Can you get honest interpretation?
Please Read Gospel of Saint Luke 1 vs 26 - 49. May the Lord blesses you as you read and may the Holy Ghost Minister unto you.
I may not have time for open discussion, thanks.

Wow that's nice..
But I would prefer you spend more of your precious time on things that can add value to your life.
.
Point of correction...

Catholics don't worship blessed Virgin Mary...
We honor her as Our mother and mother of all
Luke 1:28: the Angel went to her and said blessed are you. You are highly favored and thy lord is with you.
Luke 1:47-48
Luke 11:27
Luke 1:42
Luke 1:26-30
Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin's name was Mary. And having come in, the angel said to her, "Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!" But when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and considered what manner of greeting this was. Then the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.

Isaiah 61:10 ESV
I will greatly rejoice in the Lord; my soul shall exult in my God, for he has clothed me with the garments of salvation; he has covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decks himself like a priest with a beautiful headdress, and as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.

Luke 11:27 ESV
As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!”

John 2:3-5 ESV
When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.” And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”
Please go read your Bible well. Personal interpretation of the Bible is ill.
Don't confuse others..
If you are not clear about the doctrines of the catholic church please ask questions
Better still call me to lecture you on that.
07032539724

No bible quotations can justify the idolatry in the Catholic!.

jcross19:
No bible quotations can justify the idolatry in the Catholic!.

Don't argue blindly ...

Ask your self ..this Questions..
1. Which Church compiled the holy bible.
2.when was it compiled. .


The church you attend where and when did it start..
Please make your research. ...
Don't start a fight you can't finish

If only the poster will devote his time to deepening his relationship with God, then it will help him beneficially.

Keep on carrying Catholics on your head. Catholic this, Catholic that.

blueAgent:
Evidence that Catholics worship Mary.

    Catholics deny that they worship Mary they insist that they only honour and venerate her this is far from the truth as the facts prove that they do. We will  look at the meaning of to venerate and to worship.
    Venerate means to value someone or feel great respect for them it also means to have and to show a lot of respect for somebody especially someone considered  Holy or very important (Syn) Revere.
     Worship the practice of showing respect for God or a god by saying prayers, praises and to love and admire somebody very much.

The question is there anything that Christains do inorder to demonstrate their worship or devotion to God that the Catholics do not do to Mary? The answer is none.
Christains  pray to God.
Catholics pray to Mary.
Christains sing praises and songs to God.
Catholics praise Mary with Songs and names.
Christains seek for God's guidance and protection. Catholics ask the same  from Mary. Christains ask forgiveness of sin from God.
Catholics also ask Mary for forgiveness of sin.
Catholics refer to Mary as Mother most merciful,
The Bible states that only God is most merciful.
In the Bible God forbids Christains from bowing to images and statutes of any person or object in Heaven or Earth but Catholics bow to images of Mary.
The word of God is clear that only God is Holy even Jesus rebuked a man that called him good( Holy) he insisted that only his father, God was holy but Catholics refer to Mary as Holy(Holy Mother)
Lady of peace.
Matthew  19:17  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

They call her Queen of Heaven,mother of god's,holy mother  e.t.c. This is because they see her as a diety rather than a mortal woman who humbled herself before God and was chosen by God as a vessel of Honour.
Their claim that they pray to Mary to intercede on their behalf  becomes  viod when  you consider a sample of their prayer's there is a big difference between praying to someone and praying on behalf of someone, it is obvious Catholics pray to Mary. It is also a fact that Mary is dead and cannot hear their prayers because the Dead know nothing.plsams88:10, Ecclesiastes 9:5, Isaiah 8:9,

The issue of Worship is very important to God. If God did not tolerate Satan's desire to covert God's worship why would God tolerate Catholics worshipping Mary. even Angels refused to receive worship in the Bible
Rev 22:8, Romans 1:15; Colossians 2:18; Revelation 19:10

  Apostle Paul and Barnabas also refused to be worshipped in the Bible. Acts 14:1-end
Acts  14:11 And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.

If honouring Mary means giving her names,singing praises to her,bowing to her and making prayers to her Paul would not have objected to it when he was given similar praises and exltation.
Acts  14:14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,

In Conclusion.
The evidence and facts does not support claims by Catholics  that they only honour Mary they practically worship Mary.
Even great men like David,Abraham,Moses who were highly honoured by God have never been object of worship(honour) like Mary has been to Catholics.
Praying singing,bowing,praising and showing Revere to Mary or anyone is not a sign of honour but worship it is better they acknowledgment it and make amends

Thank you.

Here is a sample of their prayer's to Mary.
Catholic Online / Prayers
We fly to your protection, most holy Mother of God; please
listen to our petitions and needs, and deliver us from all
dangers, ever glorious and blessed Virgin Mary.
Mary, our model and mother, by your obedience and patience
you have taught us how to be true children of God. Please
help us by your powerful assistance to overcome all our
weaknesses, and to fulfill perfectly our tasks in life.
By your compassionate aid may we ever stand in spirit with
you beneath the cross of Christ so that we may also rejoice
with you in your divine Son's triumphant victory over sin and
death.
In your maternal kindness help us to be faithful to prayers in
the company of God's Church as you were one with the
Apostles in the upper room as you waited for the promised
Spirit of Pentecost.
With your gracious assistance may we be near you in the glory
of Christ's kingdom come to sing with you and all the faithful
the eternal praise of God. Amen.
V. O Mary, conceived without sin,
R. Pray for us who have recourse to you.
You are all fair, O Virgin Mary,
You never knew the stain of sin;
You are the glory of Jerusalem,
You, the joy of Israel,
You, the great honor of our people,
You, the advocate of sinners.
O Mary, Virgin most prudent,
O Mary, Mother most merciful,
Pray for us,
Intercede for us with our Lord,
Jesus Christ.

Source:https://www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=118



https://udayton.edu/imri/mary/p/prayers-of-saints-to-mary.php

www.w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/prayers/documents/papa-francesco_preghiere_20130629_maria-lumen-fidei.html

you drink too much

DownChelsea:
you drink too much

I agree. But disprove my argument.

silentEXPLOSION:

Mary soliciting for help?
OR
Soliciting for help from Mary?

Sorry it was a mistake, I have modified the quote.

blueAgent:


I agree.
But disprove my argument.

there is nothing to disprove. You made zero point.

Glorymax:
Catholic this! Catholic that! Remove Catholic faithfuls from the face of the world and have a perfect world you dream, maybe that'll make you happy. People always attacking what they don't understand.
I blame those Catholics that doesn't understand their faith and live it.
I will leave you with this Scripture passages but first; Do you have original Scripture to read from, secondly; Can you get honest interpretation?
Please Read Gospel of Saint Luke 1 vs 26 - 49. May the Lord blesses you as you read and may the Holy Ghost Minister unto you.
I may not have time for open discussion, thanks.

How does this verse prove that she should be worshipped?
Does this Bible verse luke 1:26-49 make Mary equal with God, hence making her worthy of receiving God's praise?

Alexandro15:
If only the poster will devote his time to deepening his relationship with God, then it will help him beneficially.

Keep on carrying Catholics on your head. Catholic this, Catholic that.

What i have written is beneficial to God and Christaindom.
I would appreciate it if you can disprove my argument and show my how I am wrong.

NollyHB:
Wow that's nice..
But I would prefer you spend more of your precious time on things that can add value to your life.
.
Point of correction...

Catholics don't worship blessed Virgin Mary...
We honor her as Our mother and mother of all
Luke 1:28: the Angel went to her and said blessed are you. You are highly favored and thy lord is with you.
Luke 1:47-48
Luke 11:27
Luke 1:42
Luke 1:26-30
Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin's name was Mary. And having come in, the angel said to her, "Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!" But when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and considered what manner of greeting this was. Then the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.

Isaiah 61:10 ESV
I will greatly rejoice in the Lord; my soul shall exult in my God, for he has clothed me with the garments of salvation; he has covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decks himself like a priest with a beautiful headdress, and as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.

Luke 11:27 ESV
As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!”

John 2:3-5 ESV
When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.” And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”
Please go read your Bible well. Personal interpretation of the Bible is ill.
Don't confuse others..
If you are not clear about the doctrines of the catholic church please ask questions
Better still call me to lecture you on that.
07032539724

You are only repeating yourself.

Can you show us evidence that you Catholics don't worship Mary? I took time to show evidence of your worship of Mary.

NollyHB:


Don't argue blindly ...
Ask your self ..this Questions.. 1. Which Church compiled the holy bible. 2.when was it compiled. .

The church you attend where and when did it start.. Please make your research. ... Don't start a fight you can't finish

That's a very big lie, the Catholic Church never gave the World the Bible. www.bible.ca/cath-bible-origin.htm

DownChelsea:
there is nothing to disprove. You made zero point.

If your conscience agreed with what you just wrote you would not have commented on the article in the first place.

blueAgent:



How does this verse prove that she should be worshipped?
Does this Bible verse luke 1:26-49 make Mary equal with God, hence making her worthy of receiving God's praise?

Who told you that she is being worshipped? Please concern yourself with what profits you and your neighbours to the glory of God. Thanks

blueAgent:


What i have written is beneficial to God and Christaindom.
I would appreciate it if you can disprove my argument and show my how I am wrong.

https://www.dummies.com/religion/christianity/catholicism/no-catholics-dont-worship-mary/

Can you read that and disprove anything there?

It's really interesting playing the offensive