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Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by GoodBadandUgly(m): 8:06pm On Dec 21, 2019
At home, religious indoctrination is the first form of orientation an African child receives. At a very early and impressionable age, infants are taught to recite meaningless syllables called prayers. Children are brainwashed by parents with various religious and spiritual myths. Their minds are infused with all sorts of religious dogmas. Parents ensure that children are brought up in their faith — the faith of the family and the faith of their parents. Children are taught to believe and follow, and not to question religious teachings even when there is every reason to do so.

African children are brought up to believe them and to swallow them hook, line and sinker. Not to question one’s family religion is seen as virtuous and as a mark of a good child. This religious tradition is upheld and handed down unchallenged from one generation to another in Africa.
The religious brainwashing continues in schools. [/b]Most African colleges are religious indoctrination centers. Western missionaries and Arab jihadists brought formal education (the model widely used today) to the continent. [b]They established schools to win converts and recruit new members, not really to educate Africans. So schools in Africa are covert churches and mosques. [b]Education is faith based.[/b]And this religious tradition is still upheld in most schools across the continent.

https://medium.com/humanist-voices/why-africans-are-so-religious-b37588b43313

If anyone is interested, the video i attached below does a good job of explaining how religion really affects our thinking.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAIpRRZvnJg

I am happy to take intelligent and intellectually HONEST questions. Ignorant ABUSE will be ignored.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by otipoju(m): 8:35pm On Dec 21, 2019
What exactly is your point bro?

How is praising a loving and merciful and benevolent God inspired by fear.

And please dont tell me that the universe was created with a big bang( that did not happen in time nor space) or that man evolved from worms and monkeys....that is a bigger fable that is indeed more laughable than the believe that a Supreme Being created the universe.

I believe in a God who loves me guides and gaurds me.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by Ladylite: 8:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
GoodBadandUgly:
At home, religious indoctrination is the first form of orientation an African child receives. At a very early and impressionable age, infants are taught to recite meaningless syllables called prayers. Children are brainwashed by parents with various religious and spiritual myths. Their minds are infused with all sorts of religious dogmas. Parents ensure that children are brought up in their faith — the faith of the family and the faith of their parents. Children are taught to believe and follow, and not to question religious teachings even when there is every reason to do so.

African children are brought up to believe them and to swallow them hook, line and sinker. Not to question one’s family religion is seen as virtuous and as a mark of a good child. This religious tradition is upheld and handed down unchallenged from one generation to another in Africa.
The religious brainwashing continues in schools. [/b]Most African colleges are religious indoctrination centers. Western missionaries and Arab jihadists brought formal education (the model widely used today) to the continent. [b]They established schools to win converts and recruit new members, not really to educate Africans. So schools in Africa are covert churches and mosques. [b]Education is faith based.[/b]And this religious tradition is still upheld in most schools across the continent.

https://medium.com/humanist-voices/why-africans-are-so-religious-b37588b43313

If anyone is interested, the video i attached below does a good job of explaining how religion really affects our thinking.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAIpRRZvnJg

I am happy to take intelligent and intellectually HONEST questions. Ignorant ABUSE will be ignored.


How are you so intelligent that you do not know or suspect that something more intelligent than you designed the universe.


It is a Shame.

Pitiable at best for you to come this far and still not know that you have no right to talk about such things until you have all the answers to nullify life after death

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by hakeem4(m): 8:59pm On Dec 21, 2019
otipoju:
What exactly is your point bro?

How is praising a loving and merciful and benevolent God inspired by fear.
if you do not praise him while on earth, he would punish you for all eternity. Did you just call god "benevolent" grin grin


[s]And please dont tell me that the universe was created with a big bang( that did not happen in time nor space) or that man evolved from worms and monkeys....that is a bigger fable that is indeed more laughable than the believe that a Supreme Being created the universe.
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I believe in a God who loves me guides and gaurds me.

Never seen anyone as scientifically illiterate as you. Scientifically literate people do not argue about the fact of evolution or the universe coming from a singularity.

i understand why you do not acknowledge the evidences that supports Evolution or the big bang

1) You don't understand evolution or the big bang
2) it does not support your religious view

But the fact is nobody really cares about your opinion.

How does god guard you? i still do not understand how a spirit can come in contact with matter

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by hakeem4(m): 9:02pm On Dec 21, 2019
Ladylite:



[s]How are you so intelligent that you do not know or suspect that something more intelligent than you designed the universe.
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stop using this type of argument in the 21st century, it is outdated



It is a Shame.

Pitiable at best for you to come this far and still not know that you have no right to talk about such things until you have all the answers to nullify life after death

How do you know about life after death. some things really baffle me. The both of us have never left this earth before, you are not more powerful than i am, neither am i more powerful than you are. Then how do you know about life after death?

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by GoodBadandUgly(m): 9:07pm On Dec 21, 2019
Ladylite:



How are you so intelligent that you do not know or suspect that something more intelligent than you designed the universe.


It is a Shame.

Pitiable at best for you to come this far and still not know that you have no right to talk about such things until you have all the answers to nullify life after death

Suspect means "Without certain proof". Your gambling your only life on beliefs you suspect?
You don't seem to have a good understanding of how claims work. Its the job of the person making the claim to provide evidence. I can tell you've never heard of Schrödinger's cat.
This is the first and only reality that you know, you have never experienced the afterlife.
You cannot physically prove the afterlife.
You cannot physically prove your specific religion's afterlife.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by GoodBadandUgly(m): 9:13pm On Dec 21, 2019
otipoju:
What exactly is your point bro?

How is praising a loving and merciful and benevolent God inspired by fear.

And please dont tell me that the universe was created with a big bang( that did not happen in time nor space) or that man evolved from worms and monkeys....that is a bigger fable that is indeed more laughable than the believe that a Supreme Being created the universe.

I believe in a God who loves me guides and gaurds me.

a Benelovent god? you haven't read the bible. your god is responsible for 99.99% of the death that happened in the bible. You don't have an understanding of science so i wouldn't even bother, please self-education yourself on the scientific methods and theories with it in mind that the earth is 4.5 billion years old and the universe is even older.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by otipoju(m): 9:16pm On Dec 21, 2019
hakeem4:

if you do not praise him while on earth, he would punish you for all eternity. Did you just call god "benevolent" grin grin


Never seen anyone as scientifically illiterate as you. Scientifically literate people do not argue about the fact of evolution or the universe coming from a singularity.

i understand why you do not acknowledge the evidences that supports Evolution or the big bang

1) You don't understand evolution or the big bang
2) it does not support your religious view

But the fact is nobody really cares about your opinion.

How does god guard you? i still do not understand how a spirit can come in contact with matter

Bra. Just shut it. How does the theory of evolution made up by one man make sense to you. Answer me when and where did the big bang happen. Scientists once theorized that the earth was flat did they not.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by otipoju(m): 9:21pm On Dec 21, 2019
GoodBadandUgly:


a Benelovent god? you haven't read the bible. your god is responsible for 99.99% of the death that happened in the bible. You don't have an understanding of science so i wouldn't even bother, please self-education yourself on the scientific methods and theories with it in mind that the earth is 4.5 billion years old and the universe is even older.

No educate me. Simple question when and where did the big bang happen. And you are really dense to believe that you evolved from worms, fish, monkeys and apes.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by GoodBadandUgly(m): 9:29pm On Dec 21, 2019
otipoju:


Yes, i am DENSE FULL OF MATTER.
No educate me. Simple question when and where did the big bang happen. And you are really dense to believe that you evolved from worms, fish, monkeys and apes.

The fact that you attempt to sum up evolution as humans evolving from worms, fish, monkeys, and apes should your extreme lack of understanding.
Evolution is a fact observable in nature. The theory of natural selection is what explains this fact.
Our knowledge gained from evolution is what allows you to go to the hospital to get a DNA test.
The big bang theory is how we know the universe is accelerating further away from us.

https://www.space.com/13347-big-bang-origins-universe-birth.html
https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/evolution1.htm
Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by hakeem4(m): 9:30pm On Dec 21, 2019
otipoju:


Bra. Just shut it. How does the theory of evolution made up by one man make sense to you. Answer me when and where did the big bang happen. Scientists once theorized that the earth was flat did they not.
you are such a funny fellow. Is gravity made up by isaac new or eistien ? Or are you saying before newton people could fly? grin grin.
You have been given a simple project; mention one living thing that was created (intelligently designed). all life on earth evolved and its a known fact!

which scientist said the world was flat? you must be mistaken philosophers for scientist. Even if the scientific community said the earth was flat and later came back to say the earth was Geoid. That's the beauty of science, we do not know everything thats why we keep testing all our ideas. Unlike the bible which claims to know all things but it actually knows nothing

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by GoodBadandUgly(m): 9:33pm On Dec 21, 2019
hakeem4:
you are such a funny fellow. is gravity made up by isaac new or eistien ? so are you saying before newton people could fly grin grin. You have been given a simple project; mention one living thing that was created (intelligently designed). all life on earth evolved and its a known fact!

which scientist said the world was flat? you must be mistaken philosophers for scientist. Even if the scientific community said the earth was flat and later came back to say the earth was Geoid. That's the beauty of science, we do not know everything thats why we keep testing all our ideas. Unlike the bible which claims to know all things but it actually knows nothing

The bible is not a science book, we can be certain of that. Grasping the true meaning of "billions of years" really explains the beauty of our reality.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by CAPSLOCKED: 9:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
Ladylite:



How are you so intelligent that you do not know or suspect that something more intelligent than you designed the universe.

HOW ARE YOU SO INTELLIGENT THAT YOU "DO KNOW" THAT SOMETHING MORE INTELLIGENT THAN YOU DESIGNED THE UNIVERSE? WHAT MAKES YOU SO SURE?

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by otipoju(m): 9:55pm On Dec 21, 2019
hakeem4:

you are such a funny fellow. Is gravity made up by isaac new or eistien ? Or are you saying before newton people could fly? grin grin.
You have been given a simple project; mention one living thing that was created (intelligently designed). all life on earth evolved and its a known fact!

which scientist said the world was flat? you must be mistaken philosophers for scientist. Even if the scientific community said the earth was flat and later came back to say the earth was Geoid. That's the beauty of science, we do not know everything thats why we keep testing all our ideas. Unlike the bible which claims to know all things but it actually knows nothing

In the book of Daniel chapter 12 verse 4 it predicts the future and says "... in the latter days, knowledge shall increase" . If the bible can say that, how then does it claim to know everything.

Ive already gauged your level of intelligence, its quite shallow even though you think you know stuff. I wont bother with you anymore UNLESS you can in your own words explain the big bang theory for the existence of the universe and where and when it happened.

I believe in science and believing in a Supreme being is not mutually exclusive nor antithetical to scientific enquiry.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by otipoju(m): 9:59pm On Dec 21, 2019
GoodBadandUgly:


The fact that you attempt to sum up evolution as humans evolving from worms, fish, monkeys, and apes should your extreme lack of understanding.
Evolution is a fact observable in nature. The theory of natural selection is what explains this fact.
Our knowledge gained from evolution is what allows you to go to the hospital to get a DNA test.
The big bang theory is how we know the universe is accelerating further away from us.

https://www.space.com/13347-big-bang-origins-universe-birth.html
https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/evolution1.htm

The problem with the evolution theory is this...
1. why are living things not still evolving into higher forms.

2 Why are those lowly forms still here with the so called higher forms since they could not adapt and ought to have become extinct.

Evolution is a theory and not a fact and its highly ridiculous to a rational mind.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by GoodBadandUgly(m): 10:25pm On Dec 21, 2019
otipoju:


The problem with the evolution theory is this...
1. why are living things not still evolving into higher forms.

2 Why are those lowly forms still here with the so called higher forms since they could not adapt and ought to have become extinct.

Evolution is a theory and not a fact and its highly ridiculous to a rational mind.

Lmao your very funny and your arrogance is naive. You clearly cannot grasp 13 billion years and the theory of gene mutations.
just so you know evolution is a FACT observation in nature, natural selection is the theory which explains it.
Evolution is still happening as we speak on a smaller scale, bacterias become immune to the antibodies humans take so now the new generation has evolved by adapting to their environment.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by Ladylite: 10:32pm On Dec 21, 2019
hakeem4:

stop using this type of argument in the 21st century, it is outdated




How do you know about life after death. some things really baffle me. The both of us have never left this earth before, you are not more powerful than i am, neither am i more powerful than you are. Then how do you know about life after death?

I work in a hospital, you can come and you will know that your existence is a joke unless you believe in a higher intelligence

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by otipoju(m): 10:33pm On Dec 21, 2019
GoodBadandUgly:


Lmao your very funny and your arrogance is naive. You clearly cannot grasp 13 billion years and the theory of gene mutations.
just so you know evolution is a FACT observation in nature, natural selection is the theory which explains it.
Evolution is still happening as we speak on a smaller scale, bacterias become immune to the antibodies humans take so now the new generation has evolved by adapting to their environment.

Lol. Answer my question. no be only 13 billion. Na 5 milliion billion. Why did human beings stop evolving into higher forms or you want to tell me that humans are in the best form that they could? But bacteria, still dey evolve. All of una no well at all.

Abi all the current monkeys and apes no like better thing to turn to human beings.

Evolution ko Acceleration ni.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by DoctorAlien(m): 10:33pm On Dec 21, 2019
GoodBadandUgly:


Lmao your very funny and your arrogance is naive. You clearly cannot grasp 13 billion years and the theory of gene mutations.
just so you know evolution is a FACT observation in nature, natural selection is the theory which explains it.
Evolution is still happening as we speak on a smaller scale, bacterias become immune to the antibodies humans take so now the new generation has evolved by adapting to their environment.

Hahaha grin Please visit [url]Creation.com[/url] and see all these points you raised debunked by PhD scientists.
Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by hakeem4(m): 10:38pm On Dec 21, 2019
otipoju:


In the book of Daniel chapter 12 verse 4 it predicts the future and says "... in the latter days, knowledge shall increase" . If the bible can say that, how then does it claim to know everything.

Ive already gauged your level of intelligence, its quite shallow even though you think you know stuff. I wont bother with you anymore UNLESS you can in your own words explain the big bang theory for the existence of the universe and where and when it happened.

I believe in science and believing in a Supreme being is not mutually exclusive nor antithetical to scientific enquiry.
Evolution by natural selection just explains how there are different species on earth.

the big bang is a theory that explains how the universe started from a singularity, then started expanding to what it is today.

The big bang does not explain what came before the singularity. Neither does evolution tells us how life originally started

thats the simplest form i can explain
Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by hakeem4(m): 10:39pm On Dec 21, 2019
DoctorAlien:


Hahaha grin Please visit [url]Creation.com[/url] and see all these points you raised debunked by PhD scientists.
you get your facts from a creationist website grin grin grin grin not even a peer reviewed journal grin grin
Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by DoctorAlien(m): 10:45pm On Dec 21, 2019
hakeem4:
you get your facts from a creationist website grin grin grin grin not even a peer reviewed journal grin grin

This "peer-reviewed journal" line, which in reality means "evolutionist approved", is old nah. It wasn't even effective at any time, but it's so ugly from overuse now. Say something meaningful.

https://www.nairaland.com/5246294/creationists-publish-notable-refereed-journals
Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by hakeem4(m): 10:52pm On Dec 21, 2019
otipoju:


Lol. Answer my question. no be only 13 billion. Na 5 milliion billion. Why did human beings stop evolving into higher forms or you want to tell me that humans are in the best form that they could? But bacteria, still dey evolve. All of una no well at all.

Abi all the current monkeys and apes no like better thing to turn to human beings.

Evolution ko Acceleration ni.
you do not know anything about evolution. Humans are still evolving also E.g: malaria is a selection pressure affecting genetics in some places but not others. (AA. AS & SS)

human being is not the apex of evolution.... all living things are equal
Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by otipoju(m): 10:55pm On Dec 21, 2019
hakeem4:

Evolution by natural selection just explains how there are different species on earth.

the big bang is a theory that explains how the universe started from a singularity, then started expanding to what it is today.

The big bang does not explain what came before the singularity. Neither does evolution tells us how life originally started

thats the simplest form i can explain

In glad that you admitted to this that both the big bang theory and the evolution theory still do not answer the question of how the universe came about.

So please do not blame me if i chose to believe that a Supreme Being decided to create the universe. I dont worship God because i am afraid of hell fire i dont worship God because i want to go to heaven. I worship God because He simply is worthy of my adoration.

I was at the Georgia Aquarium sometime this week and saw thousands of sea creatures fave to face, from eels, to squids, jelly fish ,sea lions dolphins , sharks and whales that were 50 times my size....all i could was just give glory to God for all the beautiful and ugly creatures that he created.

All this Anti God shee, i did between 1999 and 2001. Until God revealed himself to me in an epiphany.

I rest my case.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by otipoju(m): 10:59pm On Dec 21, 2019
hakeem4:
you do not know anything about evolution. Humans are still evolving also E.g: malaria is a selection pressure affecting genetics in some places but not others. (AA. AS & SS)

human being is not the apex of evolution.... all living things are equal

Bla bla bla. Evolution clearly talks about lower and higher forms abi you no read am reach that level.
Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by GoodBadandUgly(m): 11:01pm On Dec 21, 2019
otipoju:


Lol. Answer my question. no be only 13 billion. Na 5 milliion billion. Why did human beings stop evolving into higher forms or you want to tell me that humans are in the best form that they could? But bacteria, still dey evolve. All of una no well at all.

Abi all the current monkeys and apes no like better thing to turn to human beings.

Evolution ko Acceleration ni.

What makes you think humans are not currently evolving? you do realize the basic principles of evolution is used for genetically modified meat and In vitro fertilization. Children have been born with autificially selected genes. cheesy cheesy
Don't be so small minded to think you can see 13 billion years of evolution in 90 years.
Asking why there are still monkeys and apes seriously shows your lack of understanding of on the matter.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by hakeem4(m): 11:03pm On Dec 21, 2019
otipoju:


Bla bla bla. Evolution clearly talks about lower and higher forms abi you no read am reach that level.
Evolution said all living thing are equal. Humans are not more superior to baboons or any animals. we are all distant relatives

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by dake40(m): 11:04pm On Dec 21, 2019
otipoju:
What exactly is your point bro?

How is praising a loving and merciful and benevolent God inspired by fear.

And please dont tell me that the universe was created with a big bang( that did not happen in time nor space) or that man evolved from worms and monkeys....that is a bigger fable that is indeed more laughable than the believe that a Supreme Being created the universe.

I believe in a God who loves me guides and gaurds me.

I'm sorry but you are confused.... Did the OP dispute the existence of God?

Learn to read between lines

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by GoodBadandUgly(m): 11:04pm On Dec 21, 2019
DoctorAlien:


Hahaha grin Please visit [url]Creation.com[/url] and see all these points you raised debunked by PhD scientists.

LMAO seriously creation.com? that's hilarious, you call what those guys do as science? don't fool yourself. These so called "scientists" hold presumptions, their goal is to manipulate reality to fit into the origin bible story of the bible.
Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by otipoju(m): 11:08pm On Dec 21, 2019
hakeem4:
Evolution said all living thing are equal. Humans are not more superior to baboons or any animals. we are all distant relatives

Go and read again and properly understand...not half baked knowledge.
Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by GoodBadandUgly(m): 11:10pm On Dec 21, 2019
otipoju:


In glad that you admitted to this that both the big bang theory and the evolution theory still do not answer the question of how the universe came about.

So please do not blame me if i chose to believe that a Supreme Being decided to create the universe. I dont worship God because i am afraid of hell fire i dont worship God because i want to go to heaven. I worship God because He simply is worthy of my adoration.

I was at the Georgia Aquarium sometime this week and saw thousands of sea creatures fave to face, from eels, to squids, jelly fish ,sea lions dolphins , sharks and whales that were 50 times my size....all i could was just give glory to God for all the beautiful and ugly creatures that he created.

All this Anti God shee, i did between 1999 and 2001. Until God revealed himself to me in an epiphany.

I rest my case.

You shouldn’t worship something you cannot prove exists. To think all those creatures you mentioned were created in naive.
You do realize dogs are distance ancestors to wolfs and cats are distance ancestors to big cats (Tigers, jaguars, cheetahs).

Quick side note, what makes you conclude something is beautiful or ugly? Is it not down to subjectivity?
At these end of the day these creatures adapt to nature hence their prime goal is to survive so looking "beautiful or ugly" is secondary.

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Re: Religion Is A Set Of Irrational Fears Passed Down Generations by otipoju(m): 11:13pm On Dec 21, 2019
GoodBadandUgly:


Who cannot worship something you cannot prove exists. To think all those creatures you mentioned were created in naive.
You do realize dogs are distance ancestors to wolfs and cats are distance ancestors to big cats (Tigers, jaguars, cheetahs).

Quick side note, what makes you conclude something is beautiful or ugly? Is it not down to subjectivity?
At these end of the day these creatures adapt to nature hence their prime goal is to survive so looking "beautiful or ugly" is secondary.

Can you prove the big bang theory to me. Tell me where and when it happened. And please when you want to prove evolution to me, please provide witnesses with dates.

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