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Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by Uncletony(m): 12:58pm On Dec 25, 2019
I don't if am wrong , but I see Islam as a devilish organization worse than occultism.
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by Balogunodua(m): 4:53pm On Dec 25, 2019
grin grin why do I find this funny?
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by Legendguru: 5:09pm On Dec 25, 2019
hmmm
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by Basic123: 7:03pm On Dec 25, 2019
IAmStrange:
You see, that's part of what we are talking about.. . he's probably right... We have many Arabic schools around that beat children in manner that causes pain and things of sort... I've seen some people spite Islam and Muslims because of that...

But does Islam truly support that.. let the scholars do the talking (From islamqa.info):

With regard to smacking a child for not praying,
it is stipulated that the smacking should be light
and should not be painful
and should not break
the skin, or break a tooth or bone. It should be
on the back or the hand and the like, and the
face is to be avoided because it is forbidden to
strike it, because the Prophet (blessings and
peace of Allaah be upon him) forbade that.


It should not be more than ten blows, and it
should be done for the purpose of discipline
and teaching. So he (the parent etc) should not
show his desire to punish, except when there is
a need to show that,
such as if the child is
turning away from prayer and forsaking it, and
the like.

It was narrated from Abu Bardah al-Ansari that
he heard the Messenger of Allaah (blessings
and peace of Allaah be upon him) say: No one
should be given more than ten lashes except in
the case of one of the hadd punishments of
Allaah.” narrated by Al Bukhaari (6456) and
Muslim (3222).

You see. The smacking should be light and should never cause pain. The purpose of the beating is not to cause pain rather it is only to pass a message of discipline and that's after other measures has been taken and the child is not yielding.

That reflects in the words of more scholars...

The command implies that it is obligatory, but it
is limited only to cases where smacking will be
beneficial,
because sometimes you smack a
child but he does not benefit from being
smacked, it only makes him scream and cry
more and does not serve any benefit. Moreover
what is meant by smacking here is smacking
that is not painful, a light smack that serves the
purpose and does not cause any harm.
End
quote.
Liqa’ al-Baab il-Maftooh, 95/18

It's only in cases where it is beneficial and it must not cause harm.. must be light.

The Kuffar see the word (lightly) in all those verses that talks about smacking but due to their malicious intentions, they pretend as if they don't see it and they paint the smacking like it's some kind of a wrestling match

How hypocritical and insincere are the hearts of the Kuffar who do that!

This is another proof that many Muslims who identify with Islam do things that Islam forbids but they make people of ignorance attribute those things to Islam.

don't worry, When Imes comes, the world will know what a true Islamic figure is.. D and what true Islam is.

Imes, we await your coming grin
what is this IMES self?
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by Bimpe29: 9:34pm On Dec 25, 2019
Ebora Owu himself! He's truly liberal, detribalised and accommodating unlike one bigot retired Army General we know.
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by Franking: 6:14am On Dec 26, 2019
IAmStrange:
You see, that's part of what we are talking about.. . he's probably right... We have many Arabic schools around that beat children in manner that causes pain and things of sort... I've seen some people spite Islam and Muslims because of that...

But does Islam truly support that.. let the scholars do the talking (From islamqa.info):

With regard to smacking a child for not praying,
it is stipulated that the smacking should be light
and should not be painful
and should not break
the skin, or break a tooth or bone. It should be
on the back or the hand and the like, and the
face is to be avoided because it is forbidden to
strike it, because the Prophet (blessings and
peace of Allaah be upon him) forbade that.


It should not be more than ten blows, and it
should be done for the purpose of discipline
and teaching. So he (the parent etc) should not
show his desire to punish, except when there is
a need to show that,
such as if the child is
turning away from prayer and forsaking it, and
the like.

It was narrated from Abu Bardah al-Ansari that
he heard the Messenger of Allaah (blessings
and peace of Allaah be upon him) say: No one
should be given more than ten lashes except in
the case of one of the hadd punishments of
Allaah.” narrated by Al Bukhaari (6456) and
Muslim (3222).

You see. The smacking should be light and should never cause pain. The purpose of the beating is not to cause pain rather it is only to pass a message of discipline and that's after other measures has been taken and the child is not yielding.

That reflects in the words of more scholars...

The command implies that it is obligatory, but it
is limited only to cases where smacking will be
beneficial,
because sometimes you smack a
child but he does not benefit from being
smacked, it only makes him scream and cry
more and does not serve any benefit. Moreover
what is meant by smacking here is smacking
that is not painful, a light smack that serves the
purpose and does not cause any harm.
End
quote.
Liqa’ al-Baab il-Maftooh, 95/18

It's only in cases where it is beneficial and it must not cause harm.. must be light.

The Kuffar see the word (lightly) in all those verses that talks about smacking but due to their malicious intentions, they pretend as if they don't see it and they paint the smacking like it's some kind of a wrestling match

How hypocritical and insincere are the hearts of the Kuffar who do that!

This is another proof that many Muslims who identify with Islam do things that Islam forbids but they make people of ignorance attribute those things to Islam.

don't worry, When Imes comes, the world will know what a true Islamic figure is.. D and what true Islam is.

Imes, we await your coming grin


The Koran or the Bible cannot tell me how to raise my child. The exact number of blows to give my child for not praying! Haba. Africans have been scammed big time.
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by edoairways: 6:50am On Dec 26, 2019
Aidejay:
The message he's trying to pass was ignored the posters above..
Let me highlight it here. At some point in Nigerias history and in some places today as I type this, religion was and is not a source of division. Everybody practises what they want and lived in tranquility he was a Christian but walked into an Islamic school same way Muslims attended Christian missionary institutions. I learnt a lot during a relatives church wedding where in the muslims in the family joined us in the church auditorium as the couple's were joined in holy matrimony.
This is something that didn't raise eyebrows or tension. Religious tranquility can exist again with out fear of domination christianization or islamaization. It starts with you and me infact if you're reading this it starts with you religion should not be a burden.
You must be Yoruba a person
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by ultimatekint(m): 7:06am On Dec 26, 2019
It is by His grace.
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by juman(m): 7:13am On Dec 26, 2019
Useless old man liar.
The military armed robbers.

The generation of thieves, idiots and mumu people.
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:40am On Dec 26, 2019
IAmStrange:


You see, that's part of what we are talking about.. . he's probably right... We have many Arabic schools around that beat children in manner that causes pain and things of sort... I've seen some people spite Islam and Muslims because of that...

But does Islam truly support that.. let the scholars do the talking (From islamqa.info):

With regard to smacking a child for not praying,
it is stipulated that the smacking should be light
and should not be painful
and should not break
the skin, or break a tooth or bone. It should be
on the back or the hand and the like, and the
face is to be avoided because it is forbidden to
strike it, because the Prophet (blessings and
peace of Allaah be upon him) forbade that.


It should not be more than ten blows, and it
should be done for the purpose of discipline
and teaching. So he (the parent etc) should not
show his desire to punish, except when there is
a need to show that,
such as if the child is
turning away from prayer and forsaking it, and
the like.

It was narrated from Abu Bardah al-Ansari that
he heard the Messenger of Allaah (blessings
and peace of Allaah be upon him) say: No one
should be given more than ten lashes except in
the case of one of the hadd punishments of
Allaah.” narrated by Al Bukhaari (6456) and
Muslim (3222).

You see. The smacking should be light and should never cause pain. The purpose of the beating is not to cause pain rather it is only to pass a message of discipline and that's after other measures has been taken and the child is not yielding.

That reflects in the words of more scholars...

The command implies that it is obligatory, but it
is limited only to cases where smacking will be
beneficial,
because sometimes you smack a
child but he does not benefit from being
smacked, it only makes him scream and cry
more and does not serve any benefit. Moreover
what is meant by smacking here is smacking
that is not painful, a light smack that serves the
purpose and does not cause any harm.
End
quote.
Liqa’ al-Baab il-Maftooh, 95/18

It's only in cases where it is beneficial and it must not cause harm.. must be light.

The Kuffar see the word (lightly) in all those verses that talks about smacking but due to their malicious intentions, they pretend as if they don't see it and they paint the smacking like it's some kind of a wrestling match

How hypocritical and insincere are the hearts of the Kuffar who do that!

This is another proof that many Muslims who identify with Islam do things that Islam forbids but they make people of ignorance attribute those things to Islam.

don't worry, When Imes comes, the world will know what a true Islamic figure is.. D and what true Islam is.

Imes, we await your coming grin

Who determines what smacking is light and not painful? undecided
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by Ayobami7(m): 11:53am On Dec 26, 2019
lol
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:45am On Dec 27, 2019
Karemarealty288:


He would have been a monster as a Muslim.... We thank God for the koboko.

What is he know? undecided
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by itsme01: 10:53am On Dec 27, 2019
grin


this got me laughing


..
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:00am On Aug 11, 2020
OROSUNBOLB:


Yoruba people value their culture more than any religion. This is why it will be near impossible for anybody to divide them along religious line for political or any other gain.

Ebora Owu ! Respect sir.

Could this be true? undecided
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:24am On Sep 13, 2020
emerged01:


I,myself, have been to ile kewu as a christian,that cane truly can make you hate ile kewu.

What were you looking for in Ile Kewu? undecided
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by emerged01(m): 12:05pm On Sep 13, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


What were you looking for in Ile Kewu? undecided
It was during my stay with my mum’s brother.
Re: Obasanjo: I Ran Away From Arabic Qur’anic School Over Fear Of The Cane by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:14pm On Sep 13, 2020
emerged01:


It was during my stay with my mum’s brother.

Was your uncle a Muslim? undecided

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