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Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by achorladey: 4:36pm On Jan 01, 2020
Maximus69:


Jehovah's Witnesses have been speaking against Christmas since the 1920s, other religionists began seeing reasons with Jehovah's Witnesses hence what the OP posted, so much Godly deeds ~
Sexual Promiscuity.
Hooliganism.
Stealing.
Swindling
all manmade

Not to talk of Accidents, social unrest and so many other disasters associated with the period.

Hmmmmmmmmm, some God is truthfully using Christmas to CARRY OUT HIS WILL. But what is confusing me now is which of the these Gods,

The God whose spirit is bearing 9 qualities Paul mentioned @ Galatians 5:22-23?

Or

The God whose spirit is bearing FINE qualities peculiar to the season of Christmas? Galatians 5:19-21



Maximus69: the OP posted, so much Godly deeds ~
Sexual Promiscuity.
Hooliganism.
Stealing.
Swindling all manmade
Not to talk of Accidents, social unrest and so many other disasters associated with the period.

Achorladey: One can only laugh about the above. Before the word CHRISTMAS came into EXISTENCE many nations including the land of Israel ARE CULPRIT on account of all of those things you highlighted up there. No be CHRISTMAS starts all of them or INCREASED its PRACTICES. Even after CHRISTMAS people do them.


Don't use that above as a means of supporting your point OGA. It's even funny to see YOU Believe in the EMBER month CONCEPT too. Hahahahaha. Diversion from GOD using Pagans to free his PEOPLE from BONDAGE.
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by achorladey: 4:39pm On Jan 01, 2020
kattytamer:

This is 2020 bro, The Bible says to avoid foolish arguements and genealogies this year and beyond! Stop being judgemental of people, I have asked you severally what harm does celebrating xmas or any one birthday does to anyone you can give a simple response.
What does the Bible say on food sacrificed to idols? Why are we told not to call any animal unclean? Why did Jesus Christ heal on the sabbath? What lessons do you really learn from all that? The only thing required of us all is to love one another and to love God Almighty, there is no other command. Wether you choose to celebrate your birthday or christmas or you dont does not mean anything. Same thing applies to blood ttansfusion as well incase you are JW. Its just like comdemning Jesus for healing on the Sabbath. Let love alone guide our actions. Peace.

In summary.......

1 Corinthians 8:1-3 With regard to food sacrificed to idols, we know that “we all have knowledge.” Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up.2 If someone thinks he knows something, he does not yet know to the degree that he needs to know. 3 But if someone loves God, he is known by God.
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by Nobody: 6:23pm On Jan 01, 2020
achorladey:



Maximus69: the OP posted, so much Godly deeds ~
Sexual Promiscuity.
Hooliganism.
Stealing.
Swindling all manmade
Not to talk of Accidents, social unrest and so many other disasters associated with the period.

Achorladey: One can only laugh about the above. Before the word CHRISTMAS came into EXISTENCE many nations including the land of Israel ARE CULPRIT on account of all of those things you highlighted up there. No be CHRISTMAS starts all of them or INCREASED its PRACTICES. Even after CHRISTMAS people do them


Don't use that above as a means of supporting your point OGA. It's even funny to see YOU Believe in the EMBER month CONCEPT too. Hahahahaha. Diversion from GOD using Pagans to free his PEOPLE from BONDAGE.

@Underlined

(1) Faithful servants of God IN THE PAST don't join in the celebration of what they're not used to!

(2)God often expresses his dissatisfaction when when those claiming to be his people are doing what he detests.
A~ Sending his messengers to warn them (Jehovah's Witnesses have been doing this for decades)

B~ Allowing all sorts of evil to happen during such period/season (EMBER MONTHS crisis)

Is that not what he told his people (Israelites)?
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by OyinO: 8:38pm On Jan 01, 2020
bereto:


Say what you want I hear the gospel on that day, Christ is always on my mind, if I was celebrating Santa I guess he would be angry at the way I celebrate.

So red and green is the colour of hell, wonderful

You're too mentally backward, blinded, miseducated, ignorant, arrogant and lost for me to engage in any arguments or debate with you. You know nothing about the Winter Solstice and how the Sun of God became Son of God.
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by achorladey: 9:41pm On Jan 01, 2020
Maximus69:


@Underlined

(1) Faithful servants of God IN THE PAST don't join in the celebration of what they're not used to!

(2)God often expresses his dissatisfaction when when those claiming to be his people are doing what he detests.
A~ Sending his messengers to warn them (Jehovah's Witnesses have been doing this for decades)

B~ Allowing all sorts of evil to happen during such period/season (EMBER MONTHS crisis)

Is that not what he told his people (Israelites)?

You are back to the celebration. As long as you remember the below....


That's exactly how this same God have been using pagans to deliver his people from bondage in the past, do you remember?

So you know GOD detest the PAGANS he equally used to DELIVER his PEOPLE from BONDAGE and warned the ISREALITES not to join them.

Then the below....


Atleast UNITED STATE OF AMERICA INITIATED the WORKS of the FLESH -( according to Maximus69) which is FREEDOM of EXPRESSION and WORSHIP that ENABLE JWS unite 8.5 Millions of people. Atleast that IDEAS had IMPACT in the WORKINGS of the ORGANIZATION despite being WORKS of the FLESH.

And you equally know GOD detest works of the FLESH.

Then your believe in EMBER month CRISIS. Hahahahaha. Just a REMINDER before the CYCLING continues.
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by bereto(m): 10:23pm On Jan 01, 2020
OyinO:


You're too mentally backward, blinded, miseducated, ignorant, arrogant and lost for me to engage in any arguments or debate with you. You know nothing about the Winter Solstice and how the Sun of God became Son of God.
I am backward? Because I don't share your opinions? Who told you I don't know the story about the sun God, I just said no matter what, God made the 7 days, so if I choose to celebrate him on a particular day it has no effect on what others do that day as long as I do it for him, tell me if you were celebrating the sum God would he want you to go to church and hear the gospel, true some are celebrating it wrongly but no fusss.
You have knowledge but you lack understanding
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by Nobody: 10:42pm On Jan 01, 2020
achorladey:


You are back to the celebration. As long as you remember the below....


That's exactly how this same God have been using pagans to deliver his people from bondage in the past, do you remember?

So you know GOD detest the PAGANS he equally used to DELIVER his PEOPLE from BONDAGE and warned the ISREALITES not to join them.

Then the below....


Atleast UNITED STATE OF AMERICA INITIATED the WORKS of the FLESH -( according to Maximus69) which is FREEDOM of EXPRESSION and WORSHIP that ENABLE JWS unite 8.5 Millions of people. Atleast that IDEAS had IMPACT in the WORKINGS of the ORGANIZATION despite being WORKS of the FLESH.

And you equally know GOD detest works of the FLESH.

Then your believe in EMBER month CRISIS. Hahahahaha. Just a REMINDER before the CYCLING continues.

I understood all that you've said.

Thanks for your time Sir! smiley
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by OyinO: 11:39pm On Jan 01, 2020
bereto:

I am backward? Because I don't share your opinions? Who told you I don't know the story about the sun God, I just said no matter what, God made the 7 days, so if I choose to celebrate him on a particular day it has no effect on what others do that day as long as I do it for him, tell me if you were celebrating the sum God would he want you to go to church and hear the gospel, true some are celebrating it wrongly but no fusss.
You have knowledge but you lack understanding


God made 7 days? And who was there to witness the making? It is called "Book of My BIBLE STORIES" for a reason. And whether you choose to believe in a lie doesn't make it TRUTH. Besides, your calendar of 7 DAYS IS PAGAN! It's a big show of shame and regional calamity that Nigerian youths choose belief over Facts, common sense and Knowledge. SUN DAY is the Sun's Day, Monday is the Moon's Day, Tuesday is Tiwi's Day, Wednesday is Wodin/Odin's Day, Thursday is Thor's Day, while Friday is Freya's Day. How is that Christian? All these are Gods of the Ancient Civilizations. Go conduct a thorough research on the Gregorian calendar and see for thyself. How does a God create LIGHT BEFORE CREATING THE SUN ON THE FOURTH DAY? Is the Sun not the ONLY SOURCE OF DAYLIGHT ON EARTH? Is there any other light created by God apart from the Sunlight? Is there CHRISTMAS IN YOUR BIBLE? BUT you all celebrate these European Pagan Festivals including Halloween but demonise African Festivals and Spirituality because you have been brainwashed even before you could speak or reason. It's deep but it's a shame because in this INFORMATION AGE everything is out there for all to see. You can only choose to be blind,deaf and dumb because of society and emotional sentiments. TRUTH IS THAT, you are DEFORMED IF YOU'RE NOT INFORMED!
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by bereto(m): 10:51am On Jan 02, 2020
OyinO:



God made 7 days? And who was there to witness the making? It is called "Book of My BIBLE STORIES" for a reason. And whether you choose to believe in a lie doesn't make it TRUTH. Besides, your calendar of 7 DAYS IS PAGAN! It's a big show of shame and regional calamity that Nigerian youths choose belief over Facts, common sense and Knowledge. SUN DAY is the Sun's Day, Monday is the Moon's Day, Tuesday is Tiwi's Day, Wednesday is Wodin/Odin's Day, Thursday is Thor's Day, while Friday is Freya's Day. How is that Christian? All these are Gods of the Ancient Civilizations. Go conduct a thorough research on the Gregorian calendar and see for thyself. How does a God create LIGHT BEFORE CREATING THE SUN ON THE FOURTH DAY? Is the Sun not the ONLY SOURCE OF DAYLIGHT ON EARTH? Is there any other light created by God apart from the Sunlight? Is there CHRISTMAS IN YOUR BIBLE? BUT you all celebrate these European Pagan Festivals including Halloween but demonise African Festivals and Spirituality because you have been brainwashed even before you could speak or reason. It's deep but it's a shame because in this INFORMATION AGE everything is out there for all to see. You can only choose to be blind,deaf and dumb because of society and emotional sentiments. TRUTH IS THAT, you are DEFORMED IF YOU'RE NOT INFORMED!

You just proved my point, that the seven days have pagan names doesn't tell their origin, and the Bible says God is light, that in his presence you don't need light because he will be our light since his presence is not going to be with us here on earth he created another source, knowledge is everywhere but understanding is not, like I said you have knowledge but lack understanding, if you quote me again add wisdom to the list
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by OyinO: 1:33pm On Jan 02, 2020
bereto:


You just proved my point, that the seven days have pagan names doesn't tell their origin, and the Bible says God is light, that in his presence you don't need light because he will be our light since his presence is not going to be with us here on earth he created another source, knowledge is everywhere but understanding is not, like I said you have knowledge but lack understanding, if you quote me again add wisdom to the list

Yes, my mistake was giving my coat to a pig. Now I have my coat in the gutter.
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by Nobody: 4:22pm On Jan 02, 2020
achorladey:


In summary.......

1 Corinthians 8:1-3 With regard to food sacrificed to idols, we know that “we all have knowledge.” Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up.2 If someone thinks he knows something, he does not yet know to the degree that he needs to know. 3 But if someone loves God, he is known by God.



...In other words "oversabi" isnt the way.
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by sosospence(m): 4:59pm On Jan 02, 2020
Nauttyprof:


He is referring to the water form of the Biblical manna the Israelites ate while on journey to promise land from slavery. What religion will cause in this country, only God Himself will help.

Not only the manna water, how about power must change hands? If he reads from the Bible, he should have realized that no power changes hands. Colossians 1:13 and Psalm 62:11 confirm this.

If power changes hands, is it from the Devil to God or God to Devil? He needs to also clarify this from the Bible.
Power changes hands from negative to positive.
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by achorladey: 5:28pm On Jan 02, 2020
kattytamer:



...In other words "oversabi" isnt the way.
Thank you.
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by Nauttyprof(m): 5:32pm On Jan 02, 2020
sosospence:
Power changes hands from negative to positive.

Does this make sense?
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by sosospence(m): 5:33pm On Jan 02, 2020
Nauttyprof:


Does this make sense?
It makes sense to people.
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by Nauttyprof(m): 6:15pm On Jan 02, 2020
sosospence:
It makes sense to people.

That it makes sense to people doesn't make it scriptural or Biblical. We are to be guided alone by the Bible and not whether it makes sense to people or not. This is the essence of being a believer.
Re: Christmas Celebration Controversy: MFM Releases Statement by TiglathPILESER: 10:15pm On Feb 12, 2020

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